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PostSubject: Link to the 11k   Tue Mar 26, 2013 6:34 am

I've seen a few people say they don't have the 11k / don't know where to download it / find it etc. Most are probably familiar with this but i thought i'd post it here for those who are interested. I mostly get my info from here:

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Edited by Jenn on November 7, 2015. Being that Evan Long's site is no longer accessible, I've removed his link to the 11 K. You can still use Acolumbinesite to view the 11 K.
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PostSubject: Re: Link to the 11k   Tue Mar 26, 2013 6:38 am

Awesome. Thank you for this and I am going to sticky this thread.

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PostSubject: Re: Link to the 11k   Tue Mar 26, 2013 8:08 am

Awesome! Thank you!

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PostSubject: Re: Link to the 11k   Tue Mar 26, 2013 11:57 am

That's ok, i'm guilty of just assuming everyone knows where the 11k can be read online.
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PostSubject: Re: Link to the 11k   Sat Sep 14, 2013 12:07 pm

Does anyone have a link for a keyword searchable 11K?  I really love the way Evan Long has everything organized and use his site extensively - however, and as far as I can tell, it's not very keyword searchable if at all.  Crying or Very sad 

I'm specifically looking for the testimony of one guy who said that Dylan removed his BMW emblems from his car...which I find to be very intriguing about his character.   I recall reading this bit recently but can't seem to relocate it.  A searchable 11K would be fantastic about now.. *sigh*
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PostSubject: Re: Link to the 11k   Sat Sep 14, 2013 12:54 pm

Zachary Rissmiller 007077: He stated that Klebold had a black BMW, which he had torn all the BMW emblems off of and had a giant Ramstein sticker on the back.



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PostSubject: Re: Link to the 11k   Sat Sep 14, 2013 12:56 pm

@sororityalpha wrote:
Zachary Rissmiller 007077: He stated that Klebold had a black BMW, which he had torn all the BMW emblems off of and had a giant Ramstein sticker on the back.

Also, this link contains MOST if not ALL Columbine-related Material [Research documents are text-searchable]

http://columbinemassacre.forumotion.com/t111-the-ultimate-columbine-collection-over-25-gb

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PostSubject: Re: Link to the 11k   Sat Sep 14, 2013 1:03 pm

Dylan had a Rammstein sticker on the back of his car?! Shocked 
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PostSubject: Re: Link to the 11k   Sat Sep 14, 2013 1:26 pm

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Dylan had a Rammstein sticker on the back of his car?! Shocked 
Yep, along with an "I HATE THIS TOWN" sticker. LOL Bet his dad had real fun removing the stickers before getting rid of his son's car. I also wonder if his dad was pissed that his son ripped off the BMW emblems..
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PostSubject: Re: Link to the 11k   Sat Sep 14, 2013 2:58 pm

Sounds pretty weird to me, considering Dylan didn't listen to Rammstein. Maybe they got confused with Eric who had a Rammstein sticker on his car.
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PostSubject: Re: Link to the 11k   Sat Sep 14, 2013 3:46 pm

BMW:

010535 - Stickers on the trunk area of the vehicle were "Hate This Town", "The Chemical Brothers Dig Your Own Hole", "DJ Spooky That Subliminal Kid Riddim Warfare".

010948 - Klebold drove a black 1980's BMW with a "NIN" sticker in the rear window

009937 - Brooks Brown told Agent Lichtenberg that he thought that Dylan Klebold drove an older model Mercedes-Benz four door with a small sticker in the back window bearing the logo of the Gothic group Nine Inch Nails in the back window. This sticker has the white letter "NIN" on a black background, and the last "N" is backwards. Brooks Brown said that he thought that the two cars would be parked in the Senior parking lot adjacent to space number 256.

009077 - Parked on the exterior of the [Klebold] residence, on the north side, is a black BMW 320i. This vehicle has no registration plates and the interior is partially gutted. There are numerous stickers on the car. These stickers are: 1) the Chemical Brothers, 2) Rammstein, 3) Marilyn Manson, 4) KMFDM NAIVE, 5) NIN (the second 'N' is backwards) . It does not appear that this vehicle was used for any transportation.

008629 - AT THE REQUEST OF THE COMMAND POST, I GATHERED A TEAM OF FOUR SWAT MEMBERS
AND BEGAN TO SEARCH THE SOUTH PARKING LOT FOR ANY SUSPECT VEHICLE(S). AGENTS KIMMEY AND BEATTY CHECKED THE SOUTHEAST LOT WHILE AGENT DEWHURST AND I CHECKED THE SOUTHWEST. WE LOCATED A BLUE NISSAN SENTRA [Zack Heckler's Car] NEAR THE SPOT WHERE ONE OF THE DECEASED STUDENTS LAY. THE CAR HAD STIKERS ON IT THAT READ "NIN", "I HATE EVERYBODY", AND A PICTURE OF BORIS YELTSIN. APPROXIMATELY 100 FEET SOUTHWEST OF THAT VEHICLE WE FOUND WHAT APPEARED TO BE ONE OF THE SUSPECT VEHICLES. IT WAS A BLACK BMW [Klebold's car] WITH SIMILAIR BUMPER STICKERS ON IT.

006671 - Jackson stated that when he came in for first hour, around "7 something," he thought that Dylan Klebold's BMW with a "Rammstein" sticker was in the parking lot, but stated he was not positive

00657 - Erin Ireland - Erin said that she did not recall who drove the black BMW, but said he had "Rammeinstein" stickers on it. Erin said this is the name of a German band. She said these vehicles also had Anarchy symbols on them.

006347 - I asked him if he knew the individuals involved, and he said he had known Eric Harris. He said he had almost had a fight with him about a week before this incident. He said he was walking through the parking lot, and Eric Harris almost hit him with his car. He said he confronted Eric Harris about his driving, and that he was angry at the way he almost him, and Eric Harris backed down and the fight did not occur. Duniavy described the vehicle Eric Harris was driving as a black Mercedes or
BMW with a sticker with a German slogan across the back.

004777 - He stated that he had seen Klebold's black BMW with the "Rammstein" stickers.

HONDA:

010661 - Harris Vehicle 80's, Blue, 2 Door Make and Model Unknown - Rammstein" (band) Sticker
(black and white sticker) In rear window of vehicle

009937 - Brooks Brown told Agent Lichtenberg that he thought that Harris drove a black Honda Civic four door with a large "Rammstein" sticker in the back window

008623 - 2-DOOR HONDA [Eric's car] WITH A "RAMMSTEIN" STICKER ON THE BACK WINDSHIELD

008612 - WE LOCATED THE HONDA WITH THE "RAMMSTEIN" STICKER IN THE SOUTH PARKING LOT

008605 - I ran over to the Honda and saw a "Rammstein" bumper sticker in the back window

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In Eric/Dylan's videos: CHS Highway Patrol around 6:30 you can see the back of both Eric & Dylan's cars - you can clearly see the Rammstein sticker along the top back window of Eric's Honda & you can see the same sticker along the bottom left middle back window of Dylan's BMW.


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PostSubject: Re: Link to the 11k   Sat Sep 14, 2013 6:04 pm

I find it interesting why Dylan had Rammstein logo's on his car, since I don't remember him mentioning in his journal of anything Rammstein? Maybe he was just copying Eric.
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PostSubject: Re: Link to the 11k   Sat Sep 14, 2013 6:05 pm

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I find it interesting why Dylan had Rammstein logo's on his car, since I don't remember him mentioning in his journal of anything Rammstein? Maybe he was just copying Eric.
Actually, according to Devon Adams it was the other way around. According to her, Eric followed Dylan with a lot of things; music and clothing for one.

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PostSubject: Re: Link to the 11k   Sat Sep 14, 2013 7:47 pm

@areyoulistening wrote:
@JDM87 wrote:
I find it interesting why Dylan had Rammstein logo's on his car, since I don't remember him mentioning in his journal of anything Rammstein? Maybe he was just copying Eric.
Actually, according to Devon Adams it was the other way around. According to her, Eric followed Dylan with a lot of things; music and clothing for one.
I tend to think Devon's perception was skewed because of the two, she considered Dylan her closer friend. I've read other bits of her comments which also seem colored by her friendship with Dylan.  She claims Dylan started working at Blackjacks first and that Eric followed.  In actuality, is this true?  Eric seemed more the type to find a job first.  He was a hard, deligent worker and worked more hours than Dylan ever did.  It seems obvious to me that Dylan landed a job at Blackjacks because of Eric.  Devon also claims that E & D  were not into Hitler and the Nazi's.  According to her, to paraphrase essentially: "well, duh, they were learning about WWII and were just interested in the history. They weren't fascinated with Nazism."  Devon gives Dylan preferential treatment and in general between the two, as people she associated with regularly, quite a bit of minimizing/dismissing on her part.

It makes sense to me that Eric's passion was for KMFDM and Rammstein first because he had such an affinity with all things German and took it as a language religiously every year.  Dylan mainly took French and then at one point switched to German - most likely because of Eric (and maybe he got kicked out of French class?)  So, I tend to think that Dylan was influenced into liking these two german bands because his best friend was an avid fan.   When it comes to Dylan, I think his influence on Eric would be from extremely different musical genre: NIN, Orbital, Protegy, The Chemical Brothers and D.J. Spooky (though I don't see Eric buying into the last two as they're too hippy trippy or funky  for him).  Dylan appeared to like Marilyn Manson more than Eric and had a poster and a cd of MM was found in his car.  I've seen in the videos that Eric had a massive Rammstein sticker on the back of his car but you don't see him putting stickers of Dylan's favorite bands on his Prelude.  Conversely, Dylan put both his own favorite band stickers on his BMW as well as Eric's favorite bands.  Dylan has a lot of Libra in his chart, what can I say?  ;)     As listed above: Rammstein and NIN and DJ. Spooky.   I believe Dylan followed Eric in his love for Rammstein and KMFDM and I don't think Devon has that bit right.  She just likes to give her preferred friend more credit in being influencial.
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PostSubject: Re: Link to the 11k   Sun Sep 15, 2013 5:31 pm

True, true. They both took after each others likes, I guess.
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PostSubject: Re: Link to the 11k   Sat Nov 09, 2013 10:51 pm

@JDM87 wrote:
I find it interesting why Dylan had Rammstein logo's on his car, since I don't remember him mentioning in his journal of anything Rammstein? Maybe he was just copying Eric.
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PostSubject: Re: Link to the 11k   Tue Nov 19, 2013 11:00 pm



Thought I'd post this from off of Tumblr as a reference to the conversation in this thread.. As Eric pulls in next to Dylan black BMW on the right, you see that Dylan has the same Rammstein sticker plastered on the bottom of his window while Eric's sticker is across the top.
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PostSubject: Re: Link to the 11k   Wed Jan 25, 2017 10:54 am

I apologize for bumping all of these old threads. I'm having trouble navigating the 11K. Relying on acolumbinesite.com is almost impossible unless you already know where to look. Is there a site where the 11K is well organized and/or summarized (ideally, something like a detailed table of contents)? Does anyone have a good search method they wouldn't mind sharing?

As I'm sure you all know, researching the incident can be daunting. Most of you can probably relate to this. One comment on a thread, name in an article, or detail in a video can lead down a long, time-consuming rabbit hole of searching.
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PostSubject: Re: Link to the 11k   Wed Jan 25, 2017 11:15 am

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THis isn't the whole 11k, but goes into the 11k by theme which can be helpful

This is an archive but works for the 11k searching as well. It gives some page numbes
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PostSubject: Re: Link to the 11k   Wed Jan 25, 2017 3:50 pm

That site actually also has a table of contents. It's especially helpful if you're looking for a witness statement by name but it also breaks down the Harris/Klebold sections by topic.
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This is a second version of the index, formatted in a slightly different way.
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This index seems to have originally been posted on this website.
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It looks like it shut down before they could index all the page numbers, but it details some of the contents of the documents beyond the first 11K pages too and it also has direct links to pdfs of every section (although some links are broken).

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PostSubject: Re: Link to the 11k   Wed Jan 25, 2017 6:43 pm

Interesting. Going to read it.

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PostSubject: Re: Link to the 11k   Wed Jan 25, 2017 9:13 pm

Page 4, they say "brunt force" lmao

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PostSubject: Re: Link to the 11k   Thu Jan 26, 2017 8:14 am

Thank you Liz and sscc.
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PostSubject: Re: Link to the 11k   Thu Jan 26, 2017 6:05 pm

201-300 contains some interesting parts.
It contains a witness report with weird claims, such as one of the shooters having a "wood stocked rifle" with a "big clip"

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PostSubject: Re: Link to the 11k   Sun Mar 05, 2017 7:09 pm

Another link to most of the documents, but not all.

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