Tim Walsh, no records of him found anywhere

Gustoppoet,
I don't believe this happened but you have started and helped to maintain the best in-depth discussion I've seen on the possibility in a long time.

PaintItBlack wrote:

Gustoppoet,
I don't believe this happened but you have started and helped to maintain the best in-depth discussion I've seen on the possibility in a long time.

I agree. I find the story a little far fetched as well, given the lack of strong evidence rather than just evidence that fits the story but would also fit the other possibility that it was just a normal arrest. I personally don't think the top part of picture drawn by Eric even looks like a rape scene. Though Gustoppoet, you have done a mighty fine job of laying out the evidence so thanks for that.

Do we know the specifics of how the arrest went down?

I had always assumed they were taken in at the same time?

If that's the case - when did Walsh rape Eric? Did he make Dylan wait in the back of the car whilst he fucked Eric in some near by shrubbery? That's what the 'rape drawing' would suggest?

With the public scrutiny of Jeffco in general, I would be surprised if there was a pattern of sexually related police brutality that stayed covered up.

...That being said, sexual assault, and especially male/male sexual assault, is a very under reported crime. Crappy small towns in rural areas are the perfect place for this kind of thing to happen. The sheriff's office has already shown it's ability to cover up and lie for it's own protection also. As recently as 2011, they have destroyed critical evidence regarding the case. Also, there was mention of a male escort ring somewhere. Is there a link to that story or any more info?

What was really on the Basement Tapes? Did the public see the entirety of them? Was there an effort to suppress other writings or recordings that would have given gravity to this theory?

Also, the time frame for the assault would have been doable for Walsh. I'm not saying there is a lot of evidence to support it, but there is opportunity.

I remember Mr. Emmerson said that the "Butt Rape" file came from him, and that it was a misunderstanding.... I'll try to find a link to it.

Here it is

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PaintItBlack wrote:

Gustoppoet,
I don't believe this happened but you have started and helped to maintain the best in-depth discussion I've seen on the possibility in a long time.

Thanks, PaintItBlack. I'm not sure I believe it happened, either. Wish the situation was a bit less ambiguous.

eli27 wrote:

I agree. I find the story a little far fetched as well, given the lack of strong evidence rather than just evidence that fits the story but would also fit the other possibility that it was just a normal arrest. I personally don't think the top part of picture drawn by Eric even looks like a rape scene. Though Gustoppoet, you have done a mighty fine job of laying out the evidence so thanks for that.

Thanks, eli27.

radaddio wrote:

With the public scrutiny of Jeffco in general, I would be surprised if there was a pattern of sexually related police brutality that stayed covered up.

I would think it would be just the opposite. If there was a rape then they let Columbine happen to keep it covered up.

radaddio wrote:

...That being said, sexual assault, and especially male/male sexual assault, is a very under reported crime. Crappy small towns in rural areas are the perfect place for this kind of thing to happen. The sheriff's office has already shown it's ability to cover up and lie for it's own protection also. As recently as 2011, they have destroyed critical evidence regarding the case. Also, there was mention of a male escort ring somewhere. Is there a link to that story or any more info?

What was really on the Basement Tapes? Did the public see the entirety of them? Was there an effort to suppress other writings or recordings that would have given gravity to this theory?

Also, the time frame for the assault would have been doable for Walsh. I'm not saying there is a lot of evidence to support it, but there is opportunity.

Very good points.

deathmedic wrote:

Here it is

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Yes, that is the usual explanation for the file. it does not explain why Eric drew the crime scene pic in the first place. Why didn't Dylan draw one, too? And then there is the article linked a bit further down at that forum about the Arapahoe cops:

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And on and on and on....

meenwhile wrote:

deathmedic wrote:

Here it is

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Unless I'm misunderstanding, he's just saying the .txt file was created by him to locate the drawing better. Eric still drew that picture.

Exactly. Now someone needs to explain why.

Radioactive_Clothing wrote:

If that's the case - when did Walsh rape Eric? Did he make Dylan wait in the back of the car whilst he fucked Eric in some near by shrubbery? That's what the 'rape drawing' would suggest?

That would be the general idea. Here's another thing, why was Walsh following them in the first place? He didn't see them break into the van but he followed them when they parked Eric's car to check out the stuff they stole. What probable cause did he have to stop/question/detain them?

lol wrote:

Regarding the buttrape incident, correct me if I'm wrong but I could've sworn Calence Emerson, or another fellow Columbine researcher reported that the buttrape incident text is a bunch of BS, and it was created by one of their friends, and "Had no idea it was going to blow up that big".

Just want to clarify something here. That txt file was a file I created to take notes on my research into the possibility that any rape incident took place.

Ron Aigner combed my entire server and found every file in every directory, and because this text file was stored in the same directory as the report on Danny R's death, Ron assumed the police created the file.

The reality is that I stored all of my research notes inside the same directories as the reports I was taking notes on. That's how I organized my research. I had text files in every directory. Thousands of them. There is no conspiracy around this. I know people want to believe something else, but that's just not reality. I can't force anyone to believe it, but people like Ron who already have an agenda will take anything they can get their hands on and run with it to prove a point.

If anyone bothered to look at the content of the text file they would see that all it contained were notes about what page to find the sketch Eric drew of the van break in scene and then notes about Ron saying to see it you have to erase this, erase that, turn the page sideways and then you'll see it.

No conspiracy. Just research notes taken out of context to serve Ron's agenda.

It's standard procedure to have someone who has just been arrested for committing a crime to draw their version of what happened. No conspiracy there, either.

You can erase tons of parts of any picture in the world to see what you want to see. I could erase parts of the Mona Lisa and end up with a diagram of a Buddhist prayer wheel. Whatever you look for you will find.

I believe that Sue Klebold mentions this theory in her book but I do not have my copy at hand.

There isn't even any circumstantial evidence. Ron Aigner sifted through my website directories and pulled out a file called walshbuttrape.txt that was used to document Ron's claims. So, he's essentially saying that a document that was created for the purpose of documenting his claims was created by the police.

Never happened. That file was part of my research notes.