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 Testimony of a Columbine survivor by Amanda Stair

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PostSubject: Testimony of a Columbine survivor by Amanda Stair    Mon Jan 12, 2015 8:14 am

So in reply to Coronergirls artifact drying thing found on Klebold, there is something called a death erection. I found on Youtube, Amanda Duran's, AKA Amanda Stair, sister of Joe Stair, friend of Harris and Klebold, "Testimony of a Columbine Survivor" video. In the 6b installment, she heard Harris or Klebold say "look at his dick." All these years she thought she had heard it wrong until someone else confirmed they heard the same thing. Apparently a postmortem priapism (death erection) happens when there is a fatal gunshot wound to the brain. This indicates the death was swift and violent. This will cause a discharge of urine, mucus or prostatic fluid.
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PostSubject: Re: Testimony of a Columbine survivor by Amanda Stair    Thu Mar 12, 2015 2:44 pm

Funny i heard the same thing happens when you get hanged
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PostSubject: Re: Testimony of a Columbine survivor by Amanda Stair    Fri Mar 13, 2015 5:20 am

Amanda posts on here, though I haven't seen her around for a while now.

Anyway, here is a link to where she posted about the Youtube videos she made.

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PostSubject: Re: Testimony of a Columbine survivor by Amanda Stair    Wed Apr 08, 2015 10:01 pm

Hmm?! I thought this forum went poof!

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PostSubject: Re: Testimony of a Columbine survivor by Amanda Stair    Thu Apr 09, 2015 3:23 am

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Hmm?!  I thought this forum went poof!
It did but no one was really joining the new one so we all went back to this one. Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Testimony of a Columbine survivor by Amanda Stair    Tue May 26, 2015 2:25 am

I like how something like this if more then one people heard it it's confirmed but when three people heard Eric say "joe, I have three of them" it's regarded as false and that witness testimony isn't credible.
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PostSubject: Re: Testimony of a Columbine survivor by Amanda Stair    Sun Jun 14, 2015 12:51 pm

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I like how something like this if more then one people heard it it's confirmed but when three people heard Eric say "joe, I have three of them" it's regarded as false and that witness testimony isn't credible.

Well, probably because it was "yo" not "joe" ;)

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PostSubject: Re: Testimony of a Columbine survivor by Amanda Stair    Mon Jun 22, 2015 2:29 am

They also say they're positive they said "redacted and not the word yo" 100% sure and like 10 kids heard the same thing.. Also Joe Stair commuted suicide eventually.
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PostSubject: Re: Testimony of a Columbine survivor by Amanda Stair    Mon Jun 22, 2015 6:01 am

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They also say they're positive they said "redacted and not the word yo" 100% sure and like 10 kids heard the same thing.. Also Joe Stair commuted suicide eventually.

Well, Amanda Stair who was at the library during teh shooting was positive one of the shooters wwas referred to as "Red". She only later learned taht she misheard it and it was in fact "Reb". It wasn't easy to get confused, with all the noise, chaos, shots fired etc. People were busy trying to stay alive, not so much noting down everything that was said in precise detail.

There was one student in the 11k who reported that he recognized the rifle used as an AK-47. Obviously false, since no 7.62 warpak or similar ammo was found anywhere. If physical evidence and witness reports contradict one another, you can bet its the witness thet got stuff wrong. That happens in all sots of events - natural disasters, riots, whatever.

There was yet another person who seen a "shooter in a green shirt". Just goes to show you.

My point is: witness reports are all around teh place, many people being just wrong, misheard or misinterpreted what they saw or heard. If we take every variant of what people heard that day we would have to asume that there were 10 or so shooters with names like "Red", "Jo" etc.

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PostSubject: Re: Testimony of a Columbine survivor by Amanda Stair    Mon Jun 22, 2015 7:11 am

But multiple kids hearing the exact same thing. And 52 witnesses claiming they saw Robert Perry as. Gunman. There's some witness statements you can throw out but when numerous people are saying the same thing at the same time in the same room. Can't really rule that out.
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PostSubject: Re: Testimony of a Columbine survivor by Amanda Stair    Mon Jun 22, 2015 12:12 pm

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But multiple kids hearing the exact same thing. And 52 witnesses claiming they saw Robert Perry as. Gunman. There's some witness statements you can throw out but when numerous people are saying the same thing at the same time in the same room. Can't really rule that out.

Well, if there was a 3rd shooter than we have to explain the following:

1) He's not mentioned in their journals, despite Eric menioning Dylan in his journal numerous times. Eric explicity states: "Me and Vodka", he should emntion the 3rd guy in this sentence if there was one.
2) 3rd shooter is not on the CCTV from the cafeteria, despite both Eric and Dylan being caught on it.
3) People in the library mention seeing 2 shooters.
4) People outside mention seeing 2 kids starting to shoot.
5) I have not seen the basement tapes, but people who did never mentioned anyone on it except Eric and Dylan. People can get a whole lot of things wrong, but i think they are able to tell if there's 3 or 2 people on a tape.
6) If there was a 3rd shooter, then where's his gun? Why have all the bullet wounds been traced to one of Eric and Dylan's gun. Why there was never found any shell taht was clearly fired from a different gun? Some shells were so badly damaged taht they couldn't trace them to any gun at all, but the fact stays - all the well-preseved shells came from Eric and Dylan's guns.
7) Where's the body of teh 3rd shooter?
Cool Where's his blood?
9) Ok, where's his car? Where's the bomb in his car?
10) Leaked suicide photo. No 3rd body there either.

Bottom line: in journals, basement tapes and all evidence left before the shootign we see always Eric and Dylan, Dylan and Eric togeather. If there was some 3rd shooter, why is he never with them?

Why don't we have any evidence of his stuff during the shooting? His car, his guns, his blood, his bullets?


So, given the above its far more sensible to assume some kids just misheard "yo' for "joe" instead of trying to account for a missing gun, missing car, missing bomb, missing body and missing journal entries.

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PostSubject: Re: Testimony of a Columbine survivor by Amanda Stair    Mon Jun 22, 2015 3:13 pm

If there was more the 3-4 shooters this evidence wouldn't be there and also that why would it be assumed these kids would have committed suicide... People that have known these kids there entire lives. Kids that have been going to class with Chris Morris, Joe Stair and Robert Perry, there entire lives that have classes with these kids are testifying seeing Harris with Chris Morris... 52 kids seeing Perry. One kid heard, not even saw them, count down and blow there heads off testified and that becomes the official story because one kid said so? Sounds weird in my opinion. But, this has been argued and studied so many times it's almost pointless to debate this accusation or alternate idea. It's just something neat thats not far off the wall such as people that think it didn't even happen. It happened.
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PostSubject: Re: Testimony of a Columbine survivor by Amanda Stair    Mon Jun 22, 2015 7:54 pm

People reporting to have seen Perry is relaly the best proof that witness accounts can be hogwash. Perry had an alibi, he was far away from CHS at the time.

Eric and Dylan didn't relaly know Perry anyways, he's never mentioned in any of their journals.

Plus he's still alive today.

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PostSubject: Re: Testimony of a Columbine survivor by Amanda Stair    Mon Jun 22, 2015 9:30 pm

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People reporting to have seen Perry is relaly the best proof that witness accounts can be hogwash. Perry had an alibi, he was far away from CHS at the time.

Eric and Dylan didn't relaly know Perry anyways, he's never mentioned in any of their journals.

Plus he's still alive today.
Not too sure if I believe in the multiple shooters theory or not, but Robert Perry's alibi was quite poor if I recall. Claimed he was sleeping at his mum's house during the shooting and was told about it after he left the house by a random passer by.
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PostSubject: Re: Testimony of a Columbine survivor by Amanda Stair    Tue Jun 23, 2015 5:08 am

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People reporting to have seen Perry is relaly the best proof that witness accounts can be hogwash. Perry had an alibi, he was far away from CHS at the time.

Eric and Dylan didn't relaly know Perry anyways, he's never mentioned in any of their journals.

Plus he's still alive today.
Not too sure if I believe in the multiple shooters theory or not, but Robert Perry's alibi was quite poor if I recall. Claimed he was sleeping at his mum's house during the shooting and was told about it after he left the house by a random passer by.

Even so, you have two facts that one canno dispute:
- He's still alive
- CHS was quickly surrounded and while the police failed to intervene inside already, they did maintaine a good perimeter. Kids evacuated from inside were identified and none of them was Perry.

So even if we theorethiclaly want to believe there was a 3rd person involved, the amoutn of suspects is by default limited to people who were evacuated from CHS by police, or they feld within the first few minutes of the shooting, which would eman their participation was marginal.

I still think the entire 3rd shooter notion si bogus, as all weapons are accounted for and belonged to E&D. Robyn Manes and Duran confirmed taht part, so yeah.

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