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PostSubject: Re: Basement Tapes Destroyed   Mon May 07, 2018 10:35 am

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I never realized the rest of the families wanted them released. I don’t think the Harris’s saw them/cared at that point.

The only person who didn’t want them released was Sue. More than likely because of Dylan’s behavior.

The leak doesn’t seem too bad, I’ve always liked Dylan’s “Jesus you’re on a roll”
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PostSubject: Re: Basement Tapes Destroyed   Mon May 07, 2018 10:45 am

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CVA's new youtube vid on this topic for those who haven't already seen it.


I never realized the rest of the families wanted them released. I don’t think the Harris’s saw them/cared at that point.

The only person who didn’t want them released was Sue. More than likely because of Dylan’s behavior.

The leak doesn’t seem too bad, I’ve always liked Dylan’s “Jesus you’re on a roll”



I can only hope that someday, somehow they will be leaked/released. Smile

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PostSubject: Re: Basement Tapes Destroyed   Mon May 07, 2018 11:10 am

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CVA's new youtube vid on this topic for those who haven't already seen it.


I never realized the rest of the families wanted them released. I don’t think the Harris’s saw them/cared at that point.

The only person who didn’t want them released was Sue. More than likely because of Dylan’s behavior.

The leak doesn’t seem too bad, I’ve always liked Dylan’s “Jesus you’re on a roll”



I can only hope that someday, somehow they will be leaked/released. Smile

Can they be any worse than the 911 call that was leaked, the one where we heard Val?
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PostSubject: Re: Basement Tapes Destroyed   Mon May 07, 2018 11:12 am

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CVA's new youtube vid on this topic for those who haven't already seen it.


I never realized the rest of the families wanted them released. I don’t think the Harris’s saw them/cared at that point.

The only person who didn’t want them released was Sue. More than likely because of Dylan’s behavior.

The leak doesn’t seem too bad, I’ve always liked Dylan’s “Jesus you’re on a roll”



I can only hope that someday, somehow they will be leaked/released. Smile

Can they be any worse than the 911 call that was leaked, the one where we heard Val?


I doubt they would be.

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“Love never dies a natural death. It dies because we don't know how to replenish its source. It dies of blindness and errors and betrayals. It dies of illness and wounds; it dies of weariness, of witherings, of tarnishings.”

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PostSubject: Re: Basement Tapes Destroyed   Mon May 07, 2018 11:26 am

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CVA's new youtube vid on this topic for those who haven't already seen it.


I never realized the rest of the families wanted them released. I don’t think the Harris’s saw them/cared at that point.

The only person who didn’t want them released was Sue. More than likely because of Dylan’s behavior.

The leak doesn’t seem too bad, I’ve always liked Dylan’s “Jesus you’re on a roll”



I can only hope that someday, somehow they will be leaked/released. Smile

Can they be any worse than the 911 call that was leaked, the one where we heard Val?


I doubt they would be.


Lots of cringe, the boys acting tough and a single man tear.
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PostSubject: Re: Basement Tapes Destroyed   Mon May 07, 2018 11:28 am

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CVA's new youtube vid on this topic for those who haven't already seen it.


I never realized the rest of the families wanted them released. I don’t think the Harris’s saw them/cared at that point.

The only person who didn’t want them released was Sue. More than likely because of Dylan’s behavior.

The leak doesn’t seem too bad, I’ve always liked Dylan’s “Jesus you’re on a roll”



I can only hope that someday, somehow they will be leaked/released. Smile

Can they be any worse than the 911 call that was leaked, the one where we heard Val?


I doubt they would be.


Lots of cringe, the boys acting tough and a single man tear.


Indeed, the saltiest man tear ever cried. LOL

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PostSubject: Re: Basement Tapes Destroyed   Mon May 07, 2018 1:00 pm

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CVA's new youtube vid on this topic for those who haven't already seen it.


I never realized the rest of the families wanted them released. I don’t think the Harris’s saw them/cared at that point.

The only person who didn’t want them released was Sue. More than likely because of Dylan’s behavior.

The leak doesn’t seem too bad, I’ve always liked Dylan’s “Jesus you’re on a roll”



I can only hope that someday, somehow they will be leaked/released. Smile

Can they be any worse than the 911 call that was leaked, the one where we heard Val?


I doubt they would be.


Lots of cringe, the boys acting tough and a single man tear.


Indeed, the saltiest man tear ever cried. LOL

Eric’s feels are real. Laughing
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PostSubject: Re: Basement Tapes Destroyed   Tue May 08, 2018 12:05 pm

I said this many times before, I can almost promise you the FBI has a digitized copy probably sitting in a dusty box. Also, I don't think someone in jeff co making a copy for themselves before they were destroyed is out of the realm of possibility.
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PostSubject: Re: Basement Tapes Destroyed   Tue May 08, 2018 12:52 pm

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I said this many times before, I can almost promise you the FBI has a digitized copy probably sitting in a dusty box.

Oh almost definitely, but they'll never release them.

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PostSubject: Re: Basement Tapes Destroyed   Fri May 18, 2018 3:26 pm

When the court unseals documents in the future, if Jeffco is lying about the tapes being destroyed, would we see them released?
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PostSubject: Re: Basement Tapes Destroyed   Fri May 18, 2018 3:29 pm

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When the court unseals documents in the future, if Jeffco is lying about the tapes being destroyed, would we see them released?

Probably not.

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PostSubject: Re: Basement Tapes Destroyed   Wed Jun 13, 2018 1:57 pm

I am more concerned about the way they store these.
The videotapes are going to be demagnetified soon and digitized copies means either magnetic storage again or a CD, which also does not survive so long.

About the tapes, I think the basement tapes are probably the last, huge missing chunk of us [researchers] personal archive and I don't see any real reason for them not to be released - hypothetically. No need for the 911 call and such, because I don't think I'd like them, but on the other hand, there is equally / much more cruel stuff on Youtube (The Kyle Dinkheller shooting available on Youtube in 1998 still gets me irritated and disgusted every single time!!)

However, the basement tapes... Is it really that much more worse than Rampart Range? With all the sounds of the weapons that can cause PTSD to anyone involved in gunfights or the "entry, exit" commentary when imagine hitting a "soft target"?

Also, I might repeat myself, but there is a German documentary on a radio station called WDR as far as I remember, and while the narrator talks, there is the library 911 call to be heard. And I think the WDR has a full copy of that call in order to create a documentary - probably requiring them to make it a shocking, "Let's never make it happen again" style of documentation and regie, because it being used to emphasize the cruelty - and it really does its job. Now of course it might be one of the 1,000 snippets flying around the web that I have not heard, but to me, the segment that's played underneath the narrator gave me goosebumps.
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PostSubject: Re: Basement Tapes Destroyed   Wed Jun 13, 2018 2:37 pm

It also shocks me that Rampart Range was released and not the basement tapes. There’s been a lot of speculation about and all this is speculation right now. It took me a long time to watch rampart range. I did not mind any of the other videos. I really couldn’t bring myself to watch them fire the actual guns, and when I watched it I got this really angry at Mark Manes.

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PostSubject: Re: Basement Tapes Destroyed   Wed Jun 13, 2018 4:11 pm

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It also shocks me that Rampart Range was released and not the basement tapes. There’s been a lot of speculation about and all this is speculation right now. It took me a long time to watch rampart range. I did not mind  any of the other videos. I really couldn’t bring myself to watch them fire the actual guns, and when I watched it I got this really angry at Mark Manes.

They also released Hitmen for Hire too, which IMO was a really questionable decision considering it was a school project that doesn't help at all in understanding who  Eric and Dylan were.

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PostSubject: Re: Basement Tapes Destroyed   Wed Jun 13, 2018 4:25 pm

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It also shocks me that Rampart Range was released and not the basement tapes. There’s been a lot of speculation about and all this is speculation right now. It took me a long time to watch rampart range. I did not mind  any of the other videos. I really couldn’t bring myself to watch them fire the actual guns, and when I watched it I got this really angry at Mark Manes.

They also released Hitmen for Hire too, which IMO was a really questionable decision considering it was a school project that doesn't help at all in understanding who  Eric and Dylan were.

True, The student films were just them acting. And they also made them look extremely human. Doesn’t do anything for people to not empathize with them.
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PostSubject: Re: Basement Tapes Destroyed   Wed Jun 13, 2018 8:51 pm

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It also shocks me that Rampart Range was released and not the basement tapes. There’s been a lot of speculation about and all this is speculation right now. It took me a long time to watch rampart range. I did not mind  any of the other videos. I really couldn’t bring myself to watch them fire the actual guns, and when I watched it I got this really angry at Mark Manes.

They also released Hitmen for Hire too, which IMO was a really questionable decision considering it was a school project that doesn't help at all in understanding who  Eric and Dylan were.

True, The student films were just them acting. And they also made them look extremely human. Doesn’t do anything for people to not empathize  with them.

It also shows them acting out their fantasies about killing jocks and people they hated, so I'm scratching my head as to why JeffCo decided to release it. Maybe cause it had already been seen by people other than, Eric, Dylan and the police?

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PostSubject: Re: Basement Tapes Destroyed   Sat Jul 21, 2018 3:35 pm

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It also shows them acting out their fantasies about killing jocks and people they hated, so I'm scratching my head as to why JeffCo decided to release it. Maybe cause it had already been seen by people other than, Eric, Dylan and the police?

They may have thought that someone would share a copy regardless, so they released it to avoid controversy if those films were "leaked"

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