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PostSubject: "Computer Models" source   Thu Apr 09, 2015 3:18 pm

I was wondering if there is a specific place to look in the 11k for the source of the computer modeling/simulation of the possible damage that would have been done by the propane bombs? I have seen more than a few references to it in articles and books, but I can't seem to find the actual company or person who did them. I thought it might have been done internally by the FBI, but not really sure. Everyone refers to it, though.

Naturally, I have my doubts that a couple of propane tanks could collapse an entire school wing, but I def am not an expert there.

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PostSubject: Re: "Computer Models" source   Mon Dec 28, 2015 3:09 pm

The investigation determined that Harris and Klebold placed two 20-lb. propane tank bombs in the cafeteria the morning of April 20. Computer modeling substantiated by field testing indicated that had those two large 20-lb. propane bombs detonated with a cafeteria full of students, most would have been killed or severely injured by the resulting blasts and subsequent fireballs. There were approximately 488 students in the cafeteria at 11:17 a.m. on April 20, the time the bombs were set to detonate. In addition to the casualties caused by the explosions, the computer models demonstrated a strong likelihood of structural damage and partial collapse of the cafeteria and possible library above.

"Explosives expert Sid Woodcock said propane explosives of the type found are 'fairly sophisticated.' Just one bomb 'probably would have destroyed a good part of the school,' he said. 'These subjects were not only on a killing rampage,' said Jefferson County Sheriff John Stone, 'They were going to burn the school up.'

"Larry Bettendorf of the [B]ATF says the propane tank was rigged with a can of gasoline and an egg timer. He says the bomb was poorly designed and that may be why it never exploded. Or he said gunmen Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold may not have had time to set the timer. Bettendorf says the big question for now is how the gunmen got such a big bomb into the school"

An ABC News report from April 23rd outlines clearly that the propane kitchen bomb was a real bomb. The sheriffs office now claims bombs were never found in the kitchen. "The large bomb that authorities found in the school cafeteria kitchen Thursday was a 20-lb. device attached to a propane tank that had shrapnel, including nails, attached to it. The bomb was set with an egg timer, matches and a model rocket fuse, said Lawrence Bettendorf, an ATF agent. When the timer went off, it would trigger the match, which would light the fuse and ignite a gas can next to the propane tank. The bomb would have been enough to seriously damage the school building, but not level it, authorities said. A bomb squad removed and safely defused the device Thursday."
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PostSubject: Re: "Computer Models" source   Tue Dec 29, 2015 1:52 am

Thank you for giving me the source. I still think that everyone is wrong. I've seen what propane tanks do when they detonate. I think Sid was just called in to reinforce the scare factor of the bombs themselves for JEFFCO's sake. Two BBQ tanks will not collapse a metal and brick structure. Also, the large wall of windows would give way first, dissipating most of the concussive force of any blast.

Also, that Sid Woodcock guy is a world class number one spook:

"If I told you that there was a person that was one of the early 1940s OSS (Office of Strategic Services) operatives and later worked under contract for the CIA (Central Intelligence Agency), Atomic Energy Commission, Department of Defense, FBI (Federal Bureau of Investigation), Secret Service and the Department of Justice; trained at Shaolin during World War II, trained at the Kodokan in Japan after World War II, was a Grandmaster of Chin Na, 8th Degree Black Belt in Shinobi, instructor of units from the U.S. Army Special Forces and U.S. Navy Seal Teams, taught Bruce Lee joint locking techniques; an expert in firearms and explosives, and a watch maker you would think I was crazy or a liar. Sid was all of these things and more. This book is my memoir of my friend Sid Woodcock and Detonics the gun company he made famous. Sid's background insured that the Detonics Combat Master was a pistol fit for impossible missions. Sid and the pistol that he made famous were indeed Combat Masters."

Taken from an amazon review of his memoir. He also made a living as a paid legal consultant as well. I'm surprised the conspiracy theory types didn't lock in on him back when the shooting first happened.

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