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PostSubject: Re: wurmholeshadow and his book?   Thu May 07, 2015 11:58 am

@deathmedic wrote:
It sadden me to think that all of these great researchers are falling out of it...Starvo, MNM, Wurmhole, Ron, cadence...

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But in all fairness he was a good researcher

You are giving him way too much credit. MnM doesn't even deserve to be mentioned in the same sentence with people like Wurmhole and Calence. I've known him since 2007. He was just a really weird guy with a very large presence on the old board. A loudmouth and instigator, he wasn't a good researcher AT ALL...

For example, he never read the 11k.

I do agree it's sad to see other researchers go. Columbine interest in general seems to be waning. Sometimes I think we are the last breed.
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PostSubject: Re: wurmholeshadow and his book?   Sat May 16, 2015 2:24 am

I can only speak for myself but I am glad that several members of the old board don't seem to be around anymore. For the record I am not speaking of anyone that has been mentioned here.
The members I'm speaking of are ones with a  number in their name, another who had a fruit in their name, and  most of their crew of friends which comprised many of the regular users. Long time readers probably know who I'm referring to. I hope my saying what I did here doesn't break the rules.
They may have been decent researchers but if you were considered a fan or anyone else they looked down on, they were vicious. I think anyone who was ever bullied by them would likely agree.
I don't wish to spend my free time on a board where the members aren't at least civil.
I agree there was some decent information on that board but it was also a hotbed or bullying and harassing others. Sorry if anyone disagrees, but that's the way I see it. I did hear a rumor once not long after the old board closed that  the number name, the fruit name and their clique had set up a private message board only they could access to continue their discussions so if that's true they may still be there.
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PostSubject: Re: wurmholeshadow and his book?   Sat May 16, 2015 5:40 pm

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I can only speak for myself but I am glad that several members of the old board don't seem to be around anymore. For the record I am not speaking of anyone that has been mentioned here.
The members I'm speaking of are ones with a  number in their name, another who had a fruit in their name, and  most of their crew of friends which comprised many of the regular users. Long time readers probably know who I'm referring to. I hope my saying what I did here doesn't break the rules.
They may have been decent researchers but if you were considered a fan or anyone else they looked down on, they were vicious. I think anyone who was ever bullied by them would likely agree.
I don't wish to spend my free time on a board where the members aren't at least civil.
I agree there was some decent information on that board but it was also a hotbed or bullying and harassing others. Sorry if anyone disagrees, but that's the way I see it. I did hear a rumor once not long after the old board closed that  the number name, the fruit name and their clique had set up a private message board only they could access to continue their discussions so if that's true they may still be there.

Nothing that you've said here has broken any rules, PaintItBlack.

In my opinion and observation, I believe the majority of people who interacted in any way on that board (during any of its incarnations) would agree with you completely. This includes those of us who primarily lurked and weren't personally attacked by any of them.

The only ones who would disagree in full, in my personal opinion, would be those who were part of that little clan itself.

I'd wager that even those who were neutral or "on the fringes" of that "group" would also agree with your assessment, even if they'd never discuss it or admit it publicly.
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PostSubject: Re: wurmholeshadow and his book?   Sat May 16, 2015 11:25 pm

Thank you tfsa.
I'm happy to know that I didn't break any rules because I thought I might have. I am also glad of your positive response. . In my case I wasn't harassed as a member of the board but as one of the "fangirls" they found on another site and made a thread to make fun of. I was also harassed on YT by 3 of them.
As longtime readers of the board probably recall I was far from being the only person they did this to. It wasn't everyday but it happened often. They harassed people who were on other sites minding their own business and mostly weren't doing or saying anything that bad that I could see.
I was concerned that people might find my response to be too self indulgent along the lines of Who cares if you were harassed by
those people? So much valuable information was lost etc." I had nothing to do with the board being shut down but I am glad it was and those people aren't around at least opening doing what they were doing and saying the kind of things they were saying anymore. To pretend I felt otherwise would be dishonest of me.


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I can only speak for myself but I am glad that several members of the old board don't seem to be around anymore. For the record I am not speaking of anyone that has been mentioned here.
The members I'm speaking of are ones with a  number in their name, another who had a fruit in their name, and  most of their crew of friends which comprised many of the regular users. Long time readers probably know who I'm referring to. I hope my saying what I did here doesn't break the rules.
They may have been decent researchers but if you were considered a fan or anyone else they looked down on, they were vicious. I think anyone who was ever bullied by them would likely agree.
I don't wish to spend my free time on a board where the members aren't at least civil.
I agree there was some decent information on that board but it was also a hotbed or bullying and harassing others. Sorry if anyone disagrees, but that's the way I see it. I did hear a rumor once not long after the old board closed that  the number name, the fruit name and their clique had set up a private message board only they could access to continue their discussions so if that's true they may still be there.

Nothing that you've said here has broken any rules, PaintItBlack.

In my opinion and observation, I believe the majority of people who interacted in any way on that board (during any of its incarnations) would agree with you completely. This includes those of us who primarily lurked and weren't personally attacked by any of them.

The only ones who would disagree in full, in my personal opinion, would be those who were part of that little clan itself.

I'd wager that even those who were neutral or "on the fringes" of that "group" would also agree with your assessment, even if they'd never discuss it or admit it publicly.
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PostSubject: Re: wurmholeshadow and his book?   Wed Nov 30, 2016 2:23 pm

Hello all you wonderful beings,

I wanted to take the time to share, in brief, answers to some questions that many people have had for years regarding DylanKlebold.com, my research, and why I disappeared. I see that some of those questions are being asked here, so that’s why I am choosing to share the answers here.

First, I want to clear up what has become a real-life game of telephone. Remember that game in elementary school? Twenty or so kids would sit around in a circle, and you would whisper something in the next kid’s ear, and that kid would whisper it to the next kid, and so on until the message reached the last kid. That kid would stand up and shout out the message they heard, and it was never anything close to the original message—and everyone would just laugh because it was ridiculously funny!

Over the years, people have taken little bits of information that I have shared, and have played telephone with it – either remembering it incorrectly and repeating the information from memory, or deliberately adding to the story. Most of what’s out there is not the truth, or it is a very heavily distorted truth.

1. The KMFDM XTORT shirt I was given that belonged to Eric did not come from Chad. It came from someone else. The same person who sold me all 4 of their yearbooks and gave me a lot of other items from the school. I don’t know if Dylan wore Eric’s KMFDM shirt in that video, or if he had his own shirt. I did not sell the shirt. I gave it to a friend.

2. There is a person who moved to Littleton, that for a long time, was confused with me online and even in Littleton. This person used Eric’s last name. This could be the reason for people believing I was living in Littleton or who knows what else. I do not, and have not, had contact with this person in over 10 years.

3. I was never close with Randy Brown. I never had any contact with him other than our disagreements on CRTF. He never gave me any information or documents. He gave the information to Kendra, who ran columbine-research.info and when I met up with Kendra on a road trip with Chad back to Colorado, we stopped in Nevada at a casino and I picked up an entire car full of binders of documents given to her by Randy. I scanned what was not already scanned, and eventually ended up giving the binders away later to two different people who requested the specific reports I had. I never had any of the missing pages, or a receipt that showed what Rachel ate, etc. Everything I had was available on my website as a PDF download, and as a scrollable gallery of individual pages as JPG images. I didn’t keep anything back as far as documents go. Many times, Randy said a document existed but would never share it or cite his source. So anything that was rumored to exist, that has never seen the light of day, wasn’t from my suppression. If I had it, I published it.

4. I am not the person who took down CRTF. I’m the person who saved CRTF. One night, I had an intuitive instinct to save every single post to a Word document, and I spent hours doing this. I didn’t sleep for over 24 hours while I copied and pasted it all to Word. The next day, the contents were deleted (by Justin, the creator, who was likely being severely pressured by law enforcement). But, people enjoyed nailing me to the cross in those days.

5. I did sell the domain DylanKlebold.com on eBay, not for the money, but to make sure there was some kind of energy exchange so it went to the right person. It went to a good friend of mine. He thought he could handle it, but it was too much, so he let it go. Understandable. Nobody knew what it took to maintain it. It looked easy on the outside. It was so detailed and so cross-referenced that it really could not have been maintained by anyone other than myself. I also gave this friend the rest of my entire CHS item collection, including Eric’s shirt as a surprise for him. It was almost 40 pounds of stuff.

6. Wormholeshadow is a girl, and I met her in person in Littleton when she was looking to buy Eric’s house. I don’t think her and her girlfriend ever had any intention of really making a film. She pulled up to the house I was staying at (CHS graduates from 97) in a 90’s Honda Prelude with familiar stickers and a license plate that read, “REBDMNE” from her home state, and they were both wearing black trench coats, with fingerless gloves on opposite hands. We had a conversation at McDonald’s, and it was interesting. She stole a bath towel from the Harris’ basement. And that was my last interaction with her.

Now for the reason I left. It’s very simple. This research played a huge and important role in my life, but not as you may think. It didn’t teach me about anything other than myself. And now, I’m living my destiny, which does include sharing what I have learned. Just not in terms of the details. I am still writing my book, and it may be a while before it is completed. It’s a book that has chapters that can only be written as I move through certain experiences. It is more of a spiritual book than anything. It’s purely about my journey. It has no facts and figures about Columbine, and no details about what happened. It details my journey and how researching Columbine took me on this wonderful journey.

That’s all I can say for now. Hope this clears up a lot of misconceptions!

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PostSubject: Re: wurmholeshadow and his book?   Wed Nov 30, 2016 3:59 pm

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She pulled up to the house I was staying at (CHS graduates from 97) in a 90’s Honda Prelude with familiar stickers and a license plate that read, “REBDMNE” from her home state, and they were both wearing black trench coats, with fingerless gloves on opposite hands. We had a conversation at McDonald’s, and it was interesting. She stole a bath towel from the Harris’ basement. And that was my last interaction with her.

Wait. What?

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PostSubject: Re: wurmholeshadow and his book?   Wed Nov 30, 2016 3:59 pm

It's statements like that that make doubt everything exclaimed in the first place.

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PostSubject: Re: wurmholeshadow and his book?   Wed Nov 30, 2016 4:07 pm

That was my only experience with her and her girlfriend. That's why I pulled away from them. They said they wanted my thoughts on their movie script, and we talked about it but they mostly talked about buying Eric's old house. So, I wasn't so sure they were really interested in making a movie. I can't say for sure. But I was embarrassed to have them pull up to the house like that. Thankfully my friends understood a lot more than most, and they did not see the license plate nor did they even notice the stickers.

They've probably long since moved on from that stuff, I would think...
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PostSubject: Re: wurmholeshadow and his book?   Wed Nov 30, 2016 4:19 pm

Are you trying to imply they drove what seemed to be a replica of Eric's car? And what's this about stealing a bath towel from the Harris's residence?

This is tripping me out.

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PostSubject: Re: wurmholeshadow and his book?   Wed Nov 30, 2016 6:35 pm

According to her (Shelia is her name), she went to view the home with a real estate agent and when she went down into the basement to look at what used to be Eric's room, she stuffed a towel down her pants.

Sounds silly. But I get why she did it. My point wasn't to single her out for that, but to answer some of the questions people get confused over. And to share why I stopped communicating with the research community. On the internet, you never know who you're going to get when you finally meet in person.

I've been mistaken for a lot of different people, even Randy ran into someone in an elevator at one of the court hearings and thought the person was me.
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PostSubject: Re: wurmholeshadow and his book?   Thu Dec 01, 2016 4:24 am

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Hello all you wonderful beings,

I wanted to take the time to share, in brief, answers to some questions that many people have had for years regarding DylanKlebold.com, my research, and why I disappeared. I see that some of those questions are being asked here, so that’s why I am choosing to share the answers here.

First, I want to clear up what has become a real-life game of telephone. Remember that game in elementary school? Twenty or so kids would sit around in a circle, and you would whisper something in the next kid’s ear, and that kid would whisper it to the next kid, and so on until the message reached the last kid. That kid would stand up and shout out the message they heard, and it was never anything close to the original message—and everyone would just laugh because it was ridiculously funny!

Over the years, people have taken little bits of information that I have shared, and have played telephone with it – either remembering it incorrectly and repeating the information from memory, or deliberately adding to the story. Most of what’s out there is not the truth, or it is a very heavily distorted truth.

1. The KMFDM XTORT shirt I was given that belonged to Eric did not come from Chad. It came from someone else. The same person who sold me all 4 of their yearbooks and gave me a lot of other items from the school. I don’t know if Dylan wore Eric’s KMFDM shirt in that video, or if he had his own shirt. I did not sell the shirt. I gave it to a friend.

2. There is a person who moved to Littleton, that for a long time, was confused with me online and even in Littleton. This person used Eric’s last name. This could be the reason for people believing I was living in Littleton or who knows what else. I do not, and have not, had contact with this person in over 10 years.

3. I was never close with Randy Brown. I never had any contact with him other than our disagreements on CRTF. He never gave me any information or documents. He gave the information to Kendra, who ran columbine-research.info and when I met up with Kendra on a road trip with Chad back to Colorado, we stopped in Nevada at a casino and I picked up an entire car full of binders of documents given to her by Randy. I scanned what was not already scanned, and eventually ended up giving the binders away later to two different people who requested the specific reports I had. I never had any of the missing pages, or a receipt that showed what Rachel ate, etc. Everything I had was available on my website as a PDF download, and as a scrollable gallery of individual pages as JPG images. I didn’t keep anything back as far as documents go. Many times, Randy said a document existed but would never share it or cite his source. So anything that was rumored to exist, that has never seen the light of day, wasn’t from my suppression. If I had it, I published it.

4. I am not the person who took down CRTF. I’m the person who saved CRTF. One night, I had an intuitive instinct to save every single post to a Word document, and I spent hours doing this. I didn’t sleep for over 24 hours while I copied and pasted it all to Word. The next day, the contents were deleted (by Justin, the creator, who was likely being severely pressured by law enforcement). But, people enjoyed nailing me to the cross in those days.

5. I did sell the domain DylanKlebold.com on eBay, not for the money, but to make sure there was some kind of energy exchange so it went to the right person. It went to a good friend of mine. He thought he could handle it, but it was too much, so he let it go. Understandable. Nobody knew what it took to maintain it. It looked easy on the outside. It was so detailed and so cross-referenced that it really could not have been maintained by anyone other than myself. I also gave this friend the rest of my entire CHS item collection, including Eric’s shirt as a surprise for him. It was almost 40 pounds of stuff.

6. Wormholeshadow is a girl, and I met her in person in Littleton when she was looking to buy Eric’s house. I don’t think her and her girlfriend ever had any intention of really making a film. She pulled up to the house I was staying at (CHS graduates from 97) in a 90’s Honda Prelude with familiar stickers and a license plate that read, “REBDMNE” from her home state, and they were both wearing black trench coats, with fingerless gloves on opposite hands. We had a conversation at McDonald’s, and it was interesting. She stole a bath towel from the Harris’ basement. And that was my last interaction with her.

Now for the reason I left. It’s very simple. This research played a huge and important role in my life, but not as you may think. It didn’t teach me about anything other than myself. And now, I’m living my destiny, which does include sharing what I have learned. Just not in terms of the details. I am still writing my book, and it may be a while before it is completed. It’s a book that has chapters that can only be written as I move through certain experiences. It is more of a spiritual book than anything. It’s purely about my journey. It has no facts and figures about Columbine, and no details about what happened. It details my journey and how researching Columbine took me on this wonderful journey.

That’s all I can say for now. Hope this clears up a lot of misconceptions!

There is not much misinformation out there. Though with the previous forum(scmrpg/sbb) gone, there are past posts that are since long gone.
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PostSubject: Re: wurmholeshadow and his book?   Thu Dec 01, 2016 2:28 pm

The misinformation comes to me in more ways than just the internet. Emails, messages, etc. It's out there - circulating in the minds of many people who may never post or share anything online. I cannot tell you how many times I get tagged, quoted, or mentioned in people's Tumblr accounts, and now I no longer use Facebook and have set filters in my former email to delete all emails that mention the word 'columbine' - anyone who currently is in my life knows my private email so even if they mention it I will still get the communication.

The misinformation/miscommunications may not affect you but I have grown tired of seeing them. Especially when such rumors are discovered by bosses, co workers, etc. I'm sure you can understand that by posting this here, people will see it and instead of being left hanging they will be able to move on, even if they never register for this forum and make themselves known.
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PostSubject: Re: wurmholeshadow and his book?   Thu Dec 01, 2016 4:21 pm

You should know that wurmholeshadow obtained a transcript of the Library 911 Call from Brooks/Randy Brown.

She said that she was given the option of either listening to the 911 call or obtaining a transcript.

I am wondering if you have ever had chance to either hear the 911 call or to obtain a transcript?


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PostSubject: Re: wurmholeshadow and his book?   Thu Dec 01, 2016 4:42 pm

I don't buy wurmholeshadow's claim, nor do I buy the transcript for this reason.

It was my personal friend Kendra H. who was offered the option to listen to the 911 call by Randy. When she was contacted by Shelia (Wurmholeshadow) to possibly help with the movie script, Kendra told Shelia and her girlfriend that she was offered the option to listen by Randy, but declined the offer because she didn't want to hear it.

Wurmholeshadow twisted this into her own experience. It did not happen. I was talking to Kendra at the time Randy offered to let her listen. She told me she didn't know what to say.

If Randy had met Shelia (Wurmholeshadow) he would not have given her the time of day. It was obvious she was really off.

Randy is very protective of his documents and data. Kendra was the only person on the planet he would have ever made that offer to, and she wasn't even supposed to tell anyone she was given the opportunity.

That whole transcript was created as part of Wurmholeshadow's movie script. Anyone who buys it as truth has been duped.
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PostSubject: Re: wurmholeshadow and his book?   Thu Dec 01, 2016 5:02 pm


Okay, so wurmholeshadow's "transcript" is simply a fabricated attempt at what happened ?


Here is a Rough Copy of the Library 911 Call Sequence from the Evidence:


*911 Library Call has been adjusted 2:46 to coincide with Timeline



1263-1291: FBI Rough Draft Call Starts @ 11:25:01

015912-015916: JCSO Dispatch Time Call Starts @ 11:25:02

015917: 911 Log Call Starts @ 11:25:04


00:00 11:25:02 Call Begins “Jefferson County 911”
00:35 11:25:37 Between 11:25 and 11:26 Nielson advised dispatch she was present in the library, had seen a student firing a weapon, there were injuries and she instructed students in the library to stay down.

00:43 11:25:45 “Oh dear God”
00:47 11:25:49 Shot



00:58 11:26:00

01:06 11:26:08 Shots (2)
01:07 11:26:09 “Oh God"
01:08 11:26:10 "Oh God" Shots (2)
01:12 11:26:14 “Kids stay down”
01:17 11:26:19 “One suspect outside library in hall”

01:23 11:26:25 “Alarms going off”

01:24 11:26:26 “Smoke in library”
01:29 11:26:31 “Kids under table”

01:40 11:26:42 “I am on the floor”
01:48 11:26:50 “Students stay down”
01:50 11:26:52 Shot
01:51 11:26:53 Shots (2)
01:52 11:26:54 Shots (3)
01:53 11:26:55 “The gunman is just outside the library door”



01:58 11:27:00

02:26 11:27:28 Shot
02:30 11:27:32 “One suspect is just outside library entrance”
02:45 11:27:47 “Students are on the floor/under table”
02:54 11:27:56 Yelling



02:58 11:28:00

03:00 11:28:02 “Smoke in library”
03:05 11:28:07 “Stay on floor”
03:28 11:28:30 Explosion/gunshot?
03:30 11:28:32 "Oh God"
03:37 11:28:39 “I do not know student/suspect”
03:40 11:28:42 Shot
03:42 11:28:44 “Suspect is a male student wearing black, [it looked] very large”
03:49 11:28:51 Explosion



03:58 11:29:00

04:04 11:29:06 Explosion
04:05 11:29:07 "Oh my God that was really close"
04:07 11:29:09 Yelling "Get up!" (unknown)
04:09 11:29:11 Shot (Eric's Shotgun @ Evan Todd)
04:11 11:29:13 Shot (Eric's Shotgun @ Evan Todd)
04:14 11:29:16 Nielson starts whispering
04:20 11:29:22 Shot (Dylan's Shotgun @ Kyle Velasquez)
04:21 11:29:23 Shot (Dylan's Shotgun @ Kyle Velasquez)
04:25 11:29:27 Shot
04:30 11:29:32 Shot?
04:35 11:29:37 Yelling "Whoo!" (unknown)
04:39 11:29:41 Shot
04:43 11:29:45 Screaming



04:58 11:30:00

05:03 11:30:05 Shot (distant)
05:07 11:30:09 Phone Dropped
05:09 11:30:11 Shot (close)
05:14 11:30:16 Shot
05:27 11:30:29 Shot
05:28 11:30:30 Shot
05:29 11:30:31 Shot
05:33 11:30:35 Shot
05:42 11:30:44 Yelling "Yeah!" (unknown)
05:49 11:30:51 Shot (Eric's Shotgun @ Steven Curnow)
05:51 11:30:53 Shot (Eric's Shotgun @ Kacey Ruegsegger)



05:58 11:31:00

06:14 11:31:20 Shot (Eric's Shotgun @ Cassie Bernall)
06:22 11:31:28 Shot (Dylan's Shotgun @ Table 15)
06:23 11:31:29 Yelling "Yahoo!" (unknown)



06:58 11:32:00

07:09 11:32:11 Dispatch advises they lost RP (Reporting Party - Patricia Nielson)
07:16 11:32:18 Shot
07:22 11:32:24 Unknown Noise
07:25 11:32:27 Shot
07:37 11:32:39 Shot
07:39 11:32:41 Shot "Oh" (Dylan's Shotgun @ Mark Kintgen?)
07:41 11:32:43 Shot (Dylan's Shotgun @ Valeen Schnurr)
07:43 11:32:45 "Reb" (Dylan's voice)
07:44 11:32:46 "Yeah" (Eric's voice)
07:46 11:32:48 "Shit Yeah" (Dylan's voice)
07:49 11:32:51 Continuous Shots (8 + Shot (Dylan's TEC @ Lauren Townsend)
07:52 11:32:54 "Whoo"
07:54 11:32:56 Shot (Scream) (Shot Fired @ Table 2)
07:55 11:32:57 Shots (2) (Shots Fired @ Table 2)
07:57 11:32:59 Shot (Shot Fired @ Table 2)



07:58 11:33:00

08:00 11:33:02 Shot
08:02 11:33:04 Screams
08:06 11:33:08 "Oh my God help me" (similar phrases repeated for several seconds)
08:40 11:33:42 Shot (Eric's Shotgun @ Nicole Nowlen)
08:42 11:33:44 Shot (Eric's Shotgun @ John Tomlin)
08:44 11:33:46 Shots (3) (Dylan's TEC @ John Tomlin)
08:47 11:33:49 Shot (Eric's Hi Point Carbine or Dylan's TEC @ John Tomlin)
08:53 11:33:55 Shot (Shot Fired @ Table 2)
08:54 11:33:56 Shots (2) (Scream) (Shots Fired @ Table 2)
08:55 11:33:57 Shot (Shot Fired @ Table 2)
08:56 11:33:58 Female Screams



08:58 11:34:00

08:59 11:34:01 Shot
09:01 11:34:03 "Oh God" (female)
09:03 11:34:05 "No" (female)
09:52 11:34:54 Shot (Eric's Hi Point Carbine @ Daniel Mauser)
09:53 11:34:55 "No"
09:54 11:34:56 Shot (Eric's Hi Point Carbine @ Daniel Mauser)



09:58 11:35:00

10:13 11:35:15 Shots (3) (Eric’s Hi Point Carbine @ Corey DePooter)
10:14 11:35:16 Shot (Dylan's TEC @ Corey DePooter)
10:15 11:35:17 Scream
10:43 11:35:45 "Reb come here" (Dylan's voice)
10:54 11:35:56 "Reb" (inaudible) (Dylan's voice)
10:55 11:35:57 "Yeah" (unknown)
10:56 11:35:58 "Go" (unknown)
10:57 11:35:59 "Go" (unknown)



10:58 11:36:00 (inaudible)
11:03 11:36:05 (inaudible) "Fucking trouble" (Dylan's voice)
11:04 11:36:06 "I don't want" (Evan Todd’s voice)
11:05 11:36:07 "I don't want trouble" (Evan Todd’s voice)
11:06 11:36:08 (inaudible)
11:10 11:36:12 "You little fucking fat piece of shit" (Dylan's voice)
11:13 11:36:15 "Hey, hey" (unknown)
11:19 11:36:21 Shot
11:24 11:36:26 "Let's do it then" (unknown)
11:31 11:36:33 "Reb ya ready?" (Dylan's voice)
11:38 11:36:40 Smashing sound (Dylan throwing chair on top of library main counter/desk)



11:58 11:37:00

12:04 11:37:06 Explosion
12:15 11:37:17 Explosion



12:58 11:38:00 Explosion/Shot?



13:58 11:39:00

14:11 11:39:13 Shot
14:13 11:39:15 Shot



14:58 11:40:00

15:26 11:40:28 Shot
15:28 11:40:30 Shot



15:58 11:41:00



16:58 11:42:00

17:02 11:42:04 Explosion/Shot?



17:58 11:43:00



18:58 11:44:00

19:31 11:44:33 Shot
19:54 11:44:56 Shot (distant)
19:55 11:44:57 Shot (distant)



19:58 11:45:00

19:59 11:45:01 Shot
20:03 11:45:05 Shot (distant)



20:58 11:46:00

21:23 11:46:25 Shot
21:28 11:46:30 Yells
21:38 11:46:40 Explosion



21:58 11:47:00



22:58 11:48:00

23:01 11:48:03 Explosion
23:41 11:48:43 Unknown sound



23:58 11:49:00

24:01 11:49:03 Shot?


24:58 11:50:00


25:58 11:51:00

26:18 11:51:20 Call Ends


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PostSubject: Re: wurmholeshadow and his book?   Thu Dec 01, 2016 5:15 pm

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3. [Randy Brown] gave the information to Kendra, who ran columbine-research.info and when I met up with Kendra on a road trip with Chad back to Colorado, we stopped in Nevada at a casino and I picked up an entire car full of binders of documents given to her by Randy.


Was Kendra given the 911 Library call (.mp3 or .wav file) or a copy as well ?

Have you ever heard the call ?

Why not request a copy from Randy or Brooks ?


Thank you for considering my questions.
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PostSubject: Re: wurmholeshadow and his book?   Thu Dec 01, 2016 5:18 pm

Yep - precisely. She was writing the movie script and created the transcript as part of the script.
There is no way Randy would ever let anyone he met from the internet listen to or view a piece of evidence that was not publicly released. If he obtained a copy of the 911 call he did so illegally, so he would not risk his freedom just to satisfy someone unless he knew he could trust them absolutely, which I believe he had that trust with Kendra. No one else, though.
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PostSubject: Re: wurmholeshadow and his book?   Thu Dec 01, 2016 5:20 pm

I have never heard it - it has never been officially released, so it's unlikely anyone would get that chance because if someone has it, which has never been proven, then they can get in a lot of trouble for sharing it. I don't know if Kendra ever actually heard it or not. If she did she was sworn to secrecy and told no one that it happened. Smile
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PostSubject: Re: wurmholeshadow and his book?   Thu Dec 01, 2016 5:36 pm


Well, we do know that Darrell Scott recorded a portion of the Basement Tapes which was made public.

If may be possible that he or someone else recorded the tapes in their entirety but Darrell only released the part about Rachel's name on it.

I wonder if that is what Randy Brown did with the 911 Library Call and if he still has it.




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PostSubject: Re: wurmholeshadow and his book?   Fri Dec 02, 2016 8:41 am

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Well, we do know that Darrell Scott recorded a portion of the Basement Tapes which was made public.

If may be possible that he or someone else recorded the tapes in their entirety but Darrell only released the part about Rachel's name on it.

I wonder if that is what Randy Brown did with the 911 Library Call and if he still has it.





If he does have it I am sure he still has it. I believe what Ethan is saying here. It seems likely that Wurmhole took parts of the 11k and the 911 transcript that we did have and piece together a different transcript.
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PostSubject: Re: wurmholeshadow and his book?   Fri Dec 02, 2016 1:51 pm

It seems like some of the fabricated wurmholeshadow "transcript" was based on this article:

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PostSubject: Re: wurmholeshadow and his book?   Thu Dec 08, 2016 8:43 pm

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I have never heard it - it has never been officially released, so it's unlikely anyone would get that chance because if someone has it, which has never been proven, then they can get in a lot of trouble for sharing it. I don't know if Kendra ever actually heard it or not. If she did she was sworn to secrecy and told no one that it happened. Smile

Ethan we used to chat on AIM night after night when I was under a different handle, which I don't want to post here. Wish I could reach you just to say hi. My PMs are on.
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PostSubject: Re: wurmholeshadow and his book?   Thu Dec 08, 2016 11:33 pm

I remember Wurm from YouTube back when they were deleting videos all over the place, then she was over @ onetruemedia and would post extremely rare stuff but in ultra low quality.

I'm very into researching Columbine, but wearing trenchcoats and driving replica of their cars is just a little too creepy to me... and how I really doubt that KMFDM shirt belonged to Eric. It doesn't make any sense. Sorry.
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PostSubject: Re: wurmholeshadow and his book?   Fri Dec 09, 2016 2:40 pm

Look at all this bullshit from two fanatics.

and If she was indeed being offered those options by Randy she missed that opportunity.

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PostSubject: Re: wurmholeshadow and his book?   Fri Dec 09, 2016 3:14 pm


I know I would have listened to the 911 call, if given the opportunity.

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PostSubject: Re: wurmholeshadow and his book?   Wed Dec 14, 2016 10:01 am

Wow how ironic/cool
I was just thinking about you, Ethan, the other day. I dont know if you remember me but we used to be friends back in the myspace days. Was actually trying to find a shirt similar to the ones you used to sell on dk.com, but havent had any luck. I really miss your site and your comments on the old boards and I am happy youre doing well!
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PostSubject: Re: wurmholeshadow and his book?   Sun Dec 25, 2016 6:59 pm

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3. I was never close with Randy Brown. I never had any contact with him other than our disagreements on CRTF. He never gave me any information or documents. He gave the information to Kendra, who ran columbine-research.info and when I met up with Kendra on a road trip with Chad back to Colorado, we stopped in Nevada at a casino and I picked up an entire car full of binders of documents given to her by Randy. I scanned what was not already scanned, and eventually ended up giving the binders away later to two different people who requested the specific reports I had. I never had any of the missing pages, or a receipt that showed what Rachel ate, etc. Everything I had was available on my website as a PDF download, and as a scrollable gallery of individual pages as JPG images. I didn’t keep anything back as far as documents go. Many times, Randy said a document existed but would never share it or cite his source. So anything that was rumored to exist, that has never seen the light of day, wasn’t from my suppression. If I had it, I published it.

5. I did sell the domain DylanKlebold.com on eBay, not for the money, but to make sure there was some kind of energy exchange so it went to the right person. It went to a good friend of mine. He thought he could handle it, but it was too much, so he let it go. Understandable. Nobody knew what it took to maintain it. It looked easy on the outside. It was so detailed and so cross-referenced that it really could not have been maintained by anyone other than myself. I also gave this friend the rest of my entire CHS item collection, including Eric’s shirt as a surprise for him. It was almost 40 pounds of stuff.

CalenceEthanEmerson wrote:
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25+ Binders of xx,xxx pages of Columbine Documents - PLEASE TAKE THEM!

June 08 2009 11:56 PM

I have exactly 2 months to find someone to take the TENS OF THOUSANDS OF PAGES of documents I have in hard copy. I am moving, and cannot take them with me. I need to be completely mobile for the productions I am involved with and that means in 2 months these documents will go into my storage unit and I will be on the road, touring, for a very long time - possibly outside of the US.

Therefore, if anyone has any interest/need for these documents PLEASE let me know! I can make arrangements to ship them if you are willing to pay for the shipping. The binders are located in San Jose, CA.

There ARE documents in here that have never been made public via PDF. Autopsy diagrams, FBI ERT Report, etc. These documents originally came from Randy Brown, and were passed to Kendra when she ran her CRS website and years ago she passed them to me for my website when I took over the documents for her.

It's time for me to pass them on to someone who can and will use them. I would like to NOT split them up among people who want to pick and choose documents... I would like these to go to ONE person who has an interest in them for the purpose of complete research.

Is that you? Are you out there? Can you be a good home for these documents?

As of August 1, 2009 these documents will go into the depths of my storge unit and it could be years before I even come back to access them. IF I do at all. This is a time sensitive opportunity.

The time to act is now!


August 07 2009 3:23 PM

Thanks to Bob and Susan for taking these docments and giving them a good home!

Do Bob & Susan still have the documents?

Quote :
There ARE documents in here that have never been made public via PDF. Autopsy diagrams, FBI ERT Report, etc. These documents originally came from Randy Brown, and were passed to Kendra when she ran her CRS website and years ago she passed them to me for my website when I took over the documents for her.

Which documents have never been made public? Are they still available, I suppose, through Bob/Susan?

Thank you for your help


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PostSubject: Re: wurmholeshadow and his book?   Sun Dec 25, 2016 7:20 pm

Can you please clarify this?

CalenceEthanEmerson wrote:


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October 19 2007 12:05 PM

He won't tell you that he is the confidential "source" behind the book Comprehending Columbine by Ralph Larkin since he rails on the Klebolds and gives biased information to Mr. Larkin. The information he has given to Larkin contradicts every credible source on the face of the planet regarding the Klebold family. If he told the truth and owned up to his behavior the whole world would know that he is a liar.

He won't tell you that he has a copy of the basement tapes and has shown them to someone from FHM magazine. He denies that now, despite the proof.

He won't tell you he has a copy of the full 911 call and that it was Dylan who did most of the screaming and instigating in the library.

He won't tell you that he really has no proof for any of his claims and that is why he never cites his sources.

He won't tell you a lot of things.

Completely understand. Basically I have the magazine and the writer recounts his experience when Randy put on the basement tapes for him and spoke of details he heard and saw. I have posted scanned copies here over 20 times and someone deletes them each time. I can email them directly to you if you would like.

As far as the 911 call goes Randy himself is my source. He denies ever talking to me or sending me information but he did multiple times. I have proof of that as well in his own handwriting. My only dilemma is whether he's being truthful but I have no reason to believe he isn't with that particular bit of information.

Hope that helps.

So, Randy Brown has a copy of the FULL 911 library call & the Basement Tapes?
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PostSubject: Re: wurmholeshadow and his book?   Sun Dec 25, 2016 8:19 pm

CalenceEthanEmerson wrote:


He won't tell you that he has a copy of the basement tapes and has shown them to someone from FHM magazine. He denies that now, despite the proof.

Completely understand. Basically I have the magazine and the writer recounts his experience when Randy put on the basement tapes for him and spoke of details he heard and saw. I have posted scanned copies here over 20 times and someone deletes them each time. I can email them directly to you if you would like.

Are you referring to the FHM Magazine Article from 2004?

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PostSubject: Re: wurmholeshadow and his book?   Mon Dec 26, 2016 3:19 am

In the FHM article above, it does state that Randy Brown played a portion of the Basement Tapes ... wow!

Can it really be true that Randy Brown has a copy of both the full 911 library call and the Basement Tapes?

Somebody really needs to talk with Randy Brown and beg for this evidence from him!


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