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PostSubject: Re: What would they blame in your case?   Tue Jul 07, 2015 7:25 pm

Hit me up is anot interesting song.

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PostSubject: Re: What would they blame in your case?   Tue Jul 07, 2015 10:41 pm

My natural selection t-shirt?
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PostSubject: Re: What would they blame in your case?   Wed Jul 08, 2015 7:03 am

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Hit me up is anot interesting song.

Gotta love 2Pac, but I agree its definately not one of his best.

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PostSubject: Re: What would they blame in your case?   Wed Jul 08, 2015 7:45 pm

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Hit me up is anot interesting song.

Gotta love 2Pac, but I agree its definately not one of his best.

Yea I think it was part of his downfall, Although his beef with Biggie was completely non-physical it still had an impact on his career. I like his other songs to be honest, but Hit em Up is very catchy!

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PostSubject: Re: What would they blame in your case?   Wed Jul 08, 2015 8:55 pm

I honestly think it was the greatest diss track ever produced.
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PostSubject: Re: What would they blame in your case?   Sun Jul 12, 2015 5:33 pm

My participation in this forum and the fact that I was once arrested for possessing a sawed-off shotgun. bounce




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PostSubject: Re: What would they blame in your case?   Sun Jul 12, 2015 9:44 pm

Welp:
-Being a member of this forum.
-More than 4 journals of rambling / venting. I'm a little scared of how much everyone would pick it apart. It'd be like feeding pigeons an entire loaf of bread as opposed to mere crumbs. Weird analogy, I know.  
-A copy of 'Columbine: A True Crime Story' by Jeff Kass.
-A copy of 'American Psycho' by Bret Easton Ellis. (And 2 other novels by him.)
-Several Sylvia Plath books / poetry collections.
-Copies of 'Brave New World' and 'Brave New World Revisited' by Aldous Huxley; could be interpreted as rabid hatred towards society (whatever sells).
-A Spotify album (also CD) collection dense with KMFDM, Smashing Pumpkins, Eminem, NIN, Joy Division, OFWGKTA, etc. (I have a lot more than that, but media would probably focus on the angrier/sadder music).
-Yandere Simulator (pretty self-explanatory).
-A folder filled with my creative writing crap that'd be over-analyzed.

Otherwise, I'd be somewhat baffling. I don't fit the shooter poster child of trench coats, nihilism, being a complete outcast, and so on. Any notoriety or media attention would be purely based on shock.
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PostSubject: Re: What would they blame in your case?   Mon Jul 20, 2015 1:19 pm

Reading Langman I realized they'd look at my family. So I think they might also blame my family medical history.

There were a few people in my more distant family who got locked in mental institutions. Then there's my gramps who commited suicide.

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PostSubject: Re: What would they blame in your case?   Sun Aug 09, 2015 2:12 pm

I just saw this thread, made me think...

Other than this Columbine weirdness I've gotten into they'd really have to dig.

The obvious:

- Belonging to this forum

- Having printed out hard copies of E&D's journal

- 11k downloaded on my phone, so I could read it whenever I had the chance.

- Saved pictures of Eric and Dylan from the cafeteria and should from their school projects as well as the suicide picture.

- Probably the school shooting related books I have.

Less obvious:

- The really bad insomnia I've always had, that I'm prescribed meds for, but never, ever take.

- Family history of depression and suicide.

- Being involved in the long ago past with dangerous people, some of whom are in prison now.

- Last but not least, having been arrested at 19 for breaking into a car with a friend and put into a diversion program for adults, in exchange for a clean record. pale

There's probably more but I don't think they'd need much more.

They'd probably think I was a ticking time bomb.



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PostSubject: Re: What would they blame in your case?   Sun Aug 09, 2015 2:56 pm

If I was a mass murderer, I think they would blame:

- Metal, or my music tastes in general
- GTA
- DOOM
- Movies
- Everything on my Tumblr, (this Tumblr is almost only about killers)
- Talking a lot about murders on Facebook, Twitter, etc
- My Youtube channel
- Eric and Dylan pictures in my room, (with other killers pictures)
- My books about killers stories and crime scenes
- Stuff on my PC

But I don't think they would ever talk about depression, and how I got all this anger against the world, not good enough for ratings.

If I was a serial killer, it would be quite the same, except maybe they will go a bit further in my past, my family etc, depending on how violent would my crimes be, in my opinion.

Nice topic btw, I like it ! :3
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PostSubject: Re: What would they blame in your case?   Sun Dec 27, 2015 12:48 am

They would most definitely "link" mine to Columbine (obviously). Also my fascination with true crime, horror books and movies. My taste in music, absolutely.

My friends would all say how "normal, sweet and caring" I was. They'd likely link it to the fact that I haven't dated in years (abnormal girl behavior!!)

Maybe even my brand of mascara? The music (piano) I write as "such melancholy, it's obviously showing her mental illness!@"

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PostSubject: Re: What would they blame in your case?   Wed Dec 30, 2015 3:45 pm

- Aspergers.
- introvertedness and seclusion. Less social interaction = more time to plan massacres.
- keeping journals since high school, and I was super edgy in high school. Generally finding out that the world is unfair and expressing disappointment in society.
- Interest in Doom, shootings and listening to some of the obligatory school shooter bands.
- politically, I don't think I'm a school shooter type. Would I be the first homicidal hippie? Sounds kinda cool, if contradictory.
- and one thing I remembered just now, the being banned for threatening to kill a board member thing. Well, would I be deserving of the title of a (former) edgy highschooler otherwise?

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PostSubject: Re: What would they blame in your case?   Wed Dec 30, 2015 3:53 pm

To add to my original post.

My interest in movies. I'm a massive horror fan, especially slashers and torture porns. As well as that I'm a sucker for serial killer and crime documentaries/fictional films. I basically spend more time watching films than in my real life. Also, I think I talk about some weird shit, I just find the macabre more interesting than every day meaningless boring chatter. Erm what else ... well I'm currently writing a script, a three act biopic on a female serial killer called Hope (the irony haha).

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PostSubject: Re: What would they blame in your case?   Sat Jan 16, 2016 2:44 pm

They'd blame "emo" music - Fall Out Boy, Panic! At The Disco, etc. - without even looking up the lyrics to it.
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PostSubject: Re: What would they blame in your case?   Sat Jan 16, 2016 4:22 pm

My interest in this message board. Razz LOL
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PostSubject: Re: What would they blame in your case?   Sun Jan 17, 2016 2:33 am

They'd trot out all the old bogeymen, everything goth, nerd and "edgy," plus some new things (like waifu culture, fascination with ISIS, and--fates forefend--deliberate gender ambiguity.). I'm such a walking school shooter stereotype that I'd almost be a void--they take off the trenchcoat and there's nobody under there, it's just an automaton made out of School Shooting© and energizer batteries.

I'd make the perfect fall guy if some jerk had "plans," which is kind of sad.
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PostSubject: Re: What would they blame in your case?   Sun Jan 17, 2016 2:26 pm

In my case; German aggrotech and Counterstrike : )
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PostSubject: Re: What would they blame in your case?   Sat Jul 23, 2016 4:45 pm

For me it'd be almost hard to pinpoint anything cause the things I own are mostly vanity. From the things I own they'd most likely highlight Sue Klebold's book and other True Crime novels that I have. Literally that is all, I don't have up posters or video games and I just have a stack of various music records and an instrument. As far as Internet activity is concerned, well, just this board, true crime and conspiracy podcasts/videos mostly, gore movies/art, maybe a little bit of NSFW stuff they'd throw in for "perverse" sake hahah....that's all I can think of for now. I don't think they'd have much to build a story on except that I'm just an ordinary girl who owns very little and enjoys entertainment, almost no motive to be found, nothing archived. If I were set out on a shooting spree it wouldn't be a random one but probably a pre-meditated one with particular individuals in mind but meh, I'm bigger than that and would rather find inner peace and move on with my life. But I think how vague I like to be about myself probably counts as suspect afro

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PostSubject: Re: What would they blame in your case?   Sun Jul 24, 2016 7:44 am

In my case they would probably take one look around my room and blame my interest in true crime. I have so many true crime books, magazines, documentaries that people would just jump to conclusions that I 'worshipped' mass murderers and serial killers... people always seem to disregard a general interest and misinterpret it as condoning of those actions. Also, people would probably stereotypically highlight my mental health history, taste in horror movies and, of course, the music I listen to. In regards to internet activity, quite obviously this board, tumblr, my youtube channel, and just my general search history of many different crime cases. hmm, there are quite a few things that the 'experts' would pin-point as being the main factor influencing my decision to commit mass murder, and they would probably wonder why no one had flagged it up prior.
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PostSubject: Re: What would they blame in your case?   Sun Jul 24, 2016 7:46 am

Oh I also forgot to mention the fact that I actually have the Natural Selection, Wrath and Humanity is Overrated t-shirt's lol
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PostSubject: Re: What would they blame in your case?   Sun Jul 24, 2016 10:33 am

1. I'm pretty good at hiding my private life from my public life. My Facebook portrays an educated, peaceful, sorority girl who spends time with family and friends. My Tumblr, while still very much me, shows my interest in Columbine, drinking and smoking, sexual stuff, etc. My parents think I'm an angel who has never touched a drink or anything, but my friends know I can get crazy. But then again, don't most teenagers have that secret side??
2. My multiple therapists and psychiatrists
3. Medications
4. I have A Mother's Reckoning in my library, but that's about it
5. My music library is pretty tame tbh, but I do have a folder on my Spotify for music that Eric and Dylan liked, but that's mostly for research purposes bc it's not my style
6. Lots of saved documents, articles, evidence, and pictures, as well as my own research document on Columbine on my computer
7. Literally all I watch is crime shows like Criminal Minds
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PostSubject: Re: What would they blame in your case?   Sun Jul 24, 2016 10:46 am

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Oh I also forgot to mention the fact that I actually have the Natural Selection, Wrath and Humanity is Overrated t-shirt's lol

Oh, really? I am planning to get a Wrath T-shirt myself Smile Have you got BDU trousers (black or camouflage) and at least one long black duster/trench coat, too? Smile I do!

To be more serious: the "adults" always try to find an easy way, and making certain things into scapegoats might mean an easy way. But, this will never lead to a real solution.
(I cannot help but agree with everything Elliott Aronson wrote about this in his book "After Columbine". Finally, an "adult" who tries his best to understand.)

In my case, the possible scapegoats would be:

- My internet browsing history - being active on this forum, and too much stuff about death, violence, suicide, violent death, violent crimes, criminology and criminal psychology
- If I was so dumb that I did not destroy all data on my hard drive (but I would do so: if I had any intentions on doing any kind of destructive or self-destructive deeds, I would reinstall my *nix so that all the earlier data would be gone forever), so my files, my unpublished writings and the pictures I collected would tell everything
- If they could track my online activity (though I would surely delete every account that is possible to delete), my presence on mental health forums would be something "interesting" for those who enjoy gossiping and combining
- My preferances for clothing - military style outfit AND a great collection of "violent metal band" (this is all they usually see about it) and jet fighter aircraft T-shirts
- Bitterness for that I had no chances to start a career in the military or in the police
- I am sure that my musical preferences would give a great object for them to blame. I bet they would take my fascination of old German composers for an evidence for sympathizing with nazism; my interest in oldschool metal as a clear sign of aggression and of being a "rebel" who "does not fit in and unwilling to fit in"; my interest in the 90's black metal subculture as a sure sign of being "possessed by Satan"
- Having grown up (as far as "growing up" is appropriate to me) in a troubled family
- Oh okay: being unable or unwilling to grow up is a great excuse and topic of articles
- Intense anger towards an abusive mother (waaah, this would surely make their day!)
- Having been in a victim position for a long time
- A long history of school mobbing, and so:
- Being a loner; despite being polite and helpful toward others, experiencing difficulties in making friends, and so:
- Longing for such a good friendship/cooperation as the one Eric and Dylan had (because I could give so much!)
- I suck at German, exactly as Eric did
- Yes I like KMFDM and Rammstein, too (among many other bands)
- Being way too much into nonviolence (like nonviolent communication, veg*anism)
- Having no sexual life and being okay with it
- Being avoidant when it comes to "violent" games: I have good reasons for not playing Doom, Quake or something like this.
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PostSubject: Re: What would they blame in your case?   Sun Jul 24, 2016 11:11 am

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PostSubject: Re: What would they blame in your case?   Sun Jul 24, 2016 6:41 pm

[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]: interesting that you say this! Thanks, anyway cyclops
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PostSubject: Re: What would they blame in your case?   Mon Jul 25, 2016 10:00 am

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PostSubject: Re: What would they blame in your case?   Mon Jul 25, 2016 10:34 am

I would never dream of picking up a gun and going on a killing spree. But if I had a list of reasons here's what I've found.
Bullying
Politics
This cruel world
My fascination of Eric and Dylan
Stupid people
People I hate/dislike
And so much more

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PostSubject: Re: What would they blame in your case?   Wed Aug 02, 2017 1:25 am

Video games. Level 30 on Steam, several alts, plenty of violent video games etc.
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PostSubject: Re: What would they blame in your case?   Wed Aug 02, 2017 10:15 am

My political leanings
Internet history
Possibly video games have doom on every system I can buy it on
If they were able to locate my writings that would be of interest, I can't even find where they are
Not having any friends/Loner
Co-workers would say I was strange and had a different sense of humor
My medication or my depression/anxiety/medical history
This site where I actually feel I can express my real views

Who knows what else they would grab onto, I think a lot of the things I did when I was younger on the internet are gone, if anything is ever gone. Back when internet was dial-up I made my own site which was pretty dark and was a part of a hacking group, when hacking was super easy lol.

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PostSubject: Re: What would they blame in your case?   Wed Aug 02, 2017 6:49 pm

-DOOM
-Columbine High School Massacre Discussion Forum
-4chan
-Industrial music
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PostSubject: Re: What would they blame in your case?   Wed Aug 02, 2017 6:53 pm

The prime scapegoat would probably be this very forum. I imagine that the news media would create allusions between me and Lanza, considering somewhat similar life circumstances and my interest in his case. In high school I would frequently check out books on a wide variety of violent subjects, so that would probably lead to some "fun" headlines. My family and friends would probably become targets because of "missed warning signs".

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