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PostSubject: Books on Columbine    Sat Mar 16, 2013 4:30 am

What Columbine based books have you read? Tell us about them.
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PostSubject: Re: Books on Columbine    Sat Mar 16, 2013 4:45 am

Trash called 'Columbine' by Dave Cullen. How about you?

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PostSubject: Re: Books on Columbine    Sat Mar 16, 2013 4:50 am

1. We are, but we aren't Psycho by Tim Krabbe(actually wij zijn, maar wij zijn niet geschift in Dutch) This is most def my favorite Columbine book but hasn't been translated to English(yet).
He has some interesting theory's, and you can tell a lot of them were directly related to the old board.(the writer was a member)

2. No easy answers bij Rob Merrit and Brooks Brown. Really loved the inside information!!

3. Columbine, a true crime story by Jeff Kass. Overall a pretty good book about Columbine. I think he was a bit harsh towards the Klebolds, about not releasing information

4. Walking in Daniel's shoes by Tom Mauser. A really well written and moving story written from the perspective of a grieving parent.

5.Columbine by Dave Cullen. Pretty well written for an overall fictional book:)

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PostSubject: Re: Books on Columbine    Sun Mar 17, 2013 8:48 pm

Same as tragedy79 aside from Tim Krabbes book. I know it's not officially a Columbine book but i just borrowed Far From the Tree by Andrew Solomon which has the recent interview with the Klebolds in it. I plan on reading it this evening, shouldn't take too long and i'll post my thoughts.
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PostSubject: Re: Books on Columbine    Mon Mar 18, 2013 4:01 am

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Same as tragedy79 aside from Tim Krabbes book. I know it's not officially a Columbine book but i just borrowed Far From the Tree by Andrew Solomon which has the recent interview with the Klebolds in it. I plan on reading it this evening, shouldn't take too long and i'll post my thoughts.

Hey welcome back queenfarooq!

Far from the tree is the next book, I wat to buy(I am a bit short on cash right now). It's to bad that it's only a few pages about The Klebolds Sad I wish Tim Krabbes book was translated in english. We could have some valid discussion about it on the board.

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PostSubject: Re: Books on Columbine    Mon Mar 18, 2013 6:27 pm

Far from the Tree is a little expensive to buy just for one chapter I agree, i was lucky enough to find someone at work who had the book so they have lent it to me for a week Very Happy
There were a few bits and pieces mentioned by the Klebolds that i had wondered about over time. All in all it's rather sad to read.
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PostSubject: Re: Books on Columbine    Mon Mar 18, 2013 8:09 pm

The only book I've read is Cullen's and I can't believe I actually read the whole thing. I wanna read Brook's book, is it any good?

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PostSubject: Re: Books on Columbine    Tue Mar 19, 2013 12:23 pm

I like Brooks book i'd definitely recommend reading it, i found it quite an easy read and it was great to hear from someone who actually attended Columbine at the time and knew E & D. The book is also available on amazon at a reasonable price too which is always a plus.

I've got Cullens book but still not read all of it, i know it's full of inaccuracies but i'd still like to read what he has to say as it's just a different perspective, i just find myself rolling my eyes at some of the things he says.
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PostSubject: Re: Books on Columbine    Wed Mar 20, 2013 7:34 am

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The only book I've read is Cullen's and I can't believe I actually read the whole thing. I wanna read Brook's book, is it any good?
I've heard it's terrible. Is that true?
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PostSubject: Re: Books on Columbine    Wed Mar 20, 2013 7:40 am

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The only book I've read is Cullen's and I can't believe I actually read the whole thing. I wanna read Brook's book, is it any good?
I've heard it's terrible. Is that true?

Well, it's not bad written, but it's full of false facts and assumptions. On top of it all, he makes the innocent, less informed reader belief that all of his assumptions are actually fact..I think every Columbine researcher should read the book, but take it not to seriously.

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PostSubject: Re: Books on Columbine    Wed Mar 20, 2013 3:40 pm

Cullen's trash and Brooks Brown's No Easy Answers. I have read Far From the Tree and cried. If there is a woman who has lived more miserable years than Sue Klebold, I have no idea who she would be.
Maybe Kathy Harris.
I wanted to get Kass' book but to my astonishment and complete dismay, the largest book seller in Canada carries NO books about Columbine except Cullen's. I have ordered Kass' book from Amazon.com (which is where I got NEA) and am waiting on it. But I think it's a disgrace that Canadians have to buy from outside of the country to get any kind of an accurate picture. No wonder so many people are ill informed.

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PostSubject: Re: Books on Columbine    Wed Mar 20, 2013 6:43 pm

Columbine by Dave Cullen 4/5. Hate me all you want and yes, I know there are fallacies. As far as I'm concerned the book was well written and contained more of the information that I wanted to read about. I've always wanted to know what it was like to actually be there at Columbine on April 20th, and Cullen comes closer to describing the atmosphere that day in Littleton, Colorado than anyone else. That's what I like so much about it. It would honestly give it a perfect score if not for inaccuracies.

Columbine: A True Crime Story 2.5/5. It started off well with the information about the Klebolds and where they came from. I live about 20 minutes from the Yassenoff Community Center and knowing the connection it has with Columbine is crazy. Other than that he lost me pretty quickly when he started talking about the lawyers in the case and I thought it to be odd that he only included a part about the Shoels' as far as victims go.

Why Kids Kill: Inside the Minds by Peter Langman 5/5. I know this book isn't solely about Columbine but, it came out close to the 10th anniversary so I'm including it. As far as books about the psychology of school shooters, no book does a better job of explaining the psyches of the kids who walk into their school and attempt to gun down as many of the peers as possible. Peter Langman does a great job of tearing apart the information that's left behind by the shooters and explaining it bit by bit all while making it easy to understand. He is able to put everything back together and ends up revealing a picture that these kids are deeply psychologically disturbed and that the things we believe to cause these rampage shootings are mostly incorrect.

I like to call these books the big 3 because they all came out around the 10th anniversary of Columbine. I've read a few others and I'll get to those later.

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PostSubject: Re: Books on Columbine    Tue Jan 06, 2015 8:25 pm

I'm about 75% of the way through "Comprehending Columbine" (Ralph Larkin). It's a bit dry and wordy, but it has some good insight into the climate of the area at the time and some generally interesting information.

Just read "Spree Killers: On the Rampage" (Bill Wallace), which has a chapter about Columbine. The book overall is very simplistic and not particularly accurate, but the basic facts are correct.
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PostSubject: Re: Books on Columbine    Sun Feb 22, 2015 11:49 pm

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We are, but we aren't Psycho by Tim Krabbe(actually wij zijn, maar wij zijn niet geschift in Dutch) This is most def my favorite Columbine book but hasn't been translated to English(yet).
He has some interesting theory's, and you can tell a lot of them were directly related to the old board.(the writer was a member)

Does anyone know where I could find a translation. Or even a copy I could translate. I'm dying to read this.
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PostSubject: Re: Books on Columbine    Tue Apr 19, 2016 3:57 pm

Grant Whitus, one of the 2 officers that moved Dave Sanders from the science classroom to the storage room while he was still alive, is publishing a book titled "Bullet Riddled: The First S.W.A.T. Officer Inside Columbine...and Beyond". The publication date is September 1…

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Grant Whitus joined the Colorado S.W.A.T in 1992. His seventeen year career was one of constant headlines. Among leading countless drug raids and hostage situations, he was on the front lines of the Columbine Massacre, The Platte County Tragedy, the Albert Petrosky shooting, and the Granby tank rampage. Speaking for the first time, Whitus gives the unvarnished truth of those, and many other, major S.W.A.T operations. Now retired, he opens up about his time behind the shield. Bullet Riddled is the full unabridged disclosure of what happened during his storied career; including the brutal morning of the Columbine Massacre. More than just a retelling, Bullet-Riddled is an in-depth look at the day-to-day of S.W.A.T and focuses on the men and women who inherit so much pain to keep us safe. Nowhere is this more apparent than in the aftermath of the Columbine tragedy. The following days saw major changes within S.W.A.T. Men cracked, leaders folded and the entire country demanded changes. But these changes, like all reforms, met with stiff resistance from the old guard. Friendships turned into rivals and the infrastructure of S.W.A.T began to unravel. As resignations piled up, Grant rebuilt the entire team from hand-selected recruits. He finally had his elite team, one that would face new demons and disorders.
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PostSubject: Re: Books on Columbine    Wed Apr 20, 2016 7:54 am

That sounds interesting Gonz
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PostSubject: Re: Books on Columbine    Fri Sep 16, 2016 7:16 am

The Grant Whitus book is out but I cannot find it on Tumblr or anything for free Sad so if someone finds it and wanna share, let me know!

There is a sample on Amazon and Google Books, I read it and found at least one myth already (the "one, two, three" before E&D suicide), but I still want to read the whole thing since he was really in there that day.

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One of the National Enquirer suicide pics is on the book, I wasn't expecting that :S

And here you have a couple of interviews he did regarding the publication. For WGN Radio and 5280 Magazine.

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It’s been 17 years since the Columbine shooting. Why write this book now?

I wanted to write one then, but the bosses at the Jefferson County Sheriff’s Office said, “Don’t do it…. If you say anything bad about the department, you could be up for scrutiny or get suspended.”
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PostSubject: Re: Books on Columbine    Fri Sep 16, 2016 8:34 am

I've ordered mine but it's not coming til the end of October for some reason! Maybe it's out later over here?

As always, if anyone wants it when I've read it I will send it out to them.
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PostSubject: Re: Books on Columbine    Fri Sep 16, 2016 9:16 am

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I've ordered mine but it's not coming til the end of October for some reason! Maybe it's out later over here?

As always, if anyone wants it when I've read it I will send it out to them.

I doubt you would want to ship to the US JKJKJKJK

I am planning on getting it and when I do I will try to scan it to PDF to share
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PostSubject: Re: Books on Columbine    Fri Sep 16, 2016 10:56 pm

i have dave cullen book and brooks brown book both in pdf , i would happly share it . Just send me a pm if you want them . I found them free online .
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PostSubject: Re: Books on Columbine    Sat Sep 17, 2016 2:06 am


I have the audiobook of Bullet Riddled by Grant Whitus ...

if you want, private message me for the link
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PostSubject: Re: Books on Columbine    Sat Sep 17, 2016 4:47 am

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I've ordered mine but it's not coming til the end of October for some reason! Maybe it's out later over here?

As always, if anyone wants it when I've read it I will send it out to them.

I doubt you would want to ship to the US JKJKJKJK

I am planning on getting it and when I do I will try to scan it to PDF to share

I can do if you wish.
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PostSubject: Re: Books on Columbine    Sat Sep 17, 2016 6:14 am

"A Mother's Reckoning" by Sue Klebold (in both English & Italian); No Easy Answers; and I will start Comprehending Columbine as soon as I can.
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PostSubject: Re: Books on Columbine    Sat Sep 17, 2016 1:34 pm

I got the free sample of Bullet Riddled by Grant Whitus for my Amazon Kindle. I was surprised to read that he thought Eric and Dylan had only been dead a short time due to the color and composition of the blood and that a girl I assume to be Lisa asked him to help her but he told her he couldn't stop as he was the first one in the library and was looking for the shooters.He could hear another SWAT member counting the dead bodies in the library.It was interesting. Was really surprised to see one of the pics of Eric and Dylan dead in the library included in the sample.
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PostSubject: Re: Books on Columbine    Sat Sep 17, 2016 1:51 pm

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I got the free sample of Bullet Riddled by Grant Whitus for my Amazon Kindle. I was surprised to read that he thought Eric and Dylan had only been dead a short time due to the color and composition of the blood and that a girl I assume to be Lisa asked him to help her but he told her he couldn't stop as he was the first one in the library and was looking for the shooters.He could hear another SWAT member counting the dead bodies in the library.It was interesting. Was really surprised to see one of the pics of Eric and Dylan dead in the library included in the sample.

Wait wait wait whuuttttttt?

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PostSubject: Re: Books on Columbine    Sat Sep 17, 2016 1:54 pm

Which National Enquiry suicide pic is in Grant's book. the one with the other angle?

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PostSubject: Re: Books on Columbine    Sat Sep 17, 2016 2:07 pm

Grant's radio interview was pretty cool. He said something right, "Bigger shootings have happened. So, Columbine was the first time that these cowards realise that they're gonna get recognition for doing this, statistically it's a suicide mission anyway so they want their name to live forever. The bigger the shooting, the longer their name will live and it's sick actually."

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PostSubject: Re: Books on Columbine    Sat Sep 17, 2016 2:11 pm


There is a preview of the book here (also shows some pictures):

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PostSubject: Re: Books on Columbine    Sat Sep 17, 2016 2:20 pm

Wonderful! I am reading the available parts here and am fascinated.
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PostSubject: Re: Books on Columbine    Sat Sep 17, 2016 2:23 pm

Gosh Grant, hahahah. No ill will on him I mean I'm sure he has done good work but reading his book is more like reading an aol conversation between two teenagers Suspect

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