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PostSubject: Re: Mass Shooters & Girls   Mass Shooters & Girls Icon_minitimeTue Jun 11, 2013 1:37 pm

It interesting the way in which all the guys appeared to deal with rejection particularly badly. This is all very interesting information.
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PostSubject: Re: Mass Shooters & Girls   Mass Shooters & Girls Icon_minitimeWed Jun 12, 2013 5:51 am

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Seung-Hui Cho: Was warned three times by Campus Police, because he had stalked female fellow students. Because Wikipedia has a detailed description of the story, Ill just quote:


Seung-Hui Cho was an odd guy, but I felt a little sorry for him while reading those "stalking" incidents. Nothing he did is what I would consider "stalking". Those girls never told him themselves that they wanted nothing to do with him. To me, stalking is when someone tells you to get lost and you keep harrassing them.

Also, who is this "Koch" guy? Is he supposed to be Cho's friend? What kind of friend warns girls that their friend is no good.

The last part too. All Cho did was send a depressed message and they carted him off (by police escort) to the mental health services. How humiliating.

Maybe these guys handle rejection badly because they desire to be part of society and each rejection confirms they're never going to be?
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PostSubject: Re: Mass Shooters & Girls   Mass Shooters & Girls Icon_minitimeFri Sep 27, 2013 7:56 am

That´s really interesting. Thanks for the thread Very Happy 
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PostSubject: Re: Mass Shooters & Girls   Mass Shooters & Girls Icon_minitimeFri Sep 27, 2013 10:03 am

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That´s really interesting. Thanks for the thread Very Happy 
Thank you! 


Update for Seung-Hui Cho: Not long after he became the roommate of Andy Koch, Seung got invited by Andy and a friend of him to a bar. After a few drinks, Seung got more open and talkative and told Koch and the other guy about his imaginary girlfriend (and he called her "my imaginary girlfriend") with the name Jelly. Jelly called him spanky and she actually lived in the outer space, according to Seung.


You can watch a very detailed interview with Koch and the other friend here:

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PostSubject: Re: Mass Shooters & Girls   Mass Shooters & Girls Icon_minitimeFri Sep 27, 2013 7:38 pm

You are great Very Happy please write more...
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PostSubject: Re: Mass Shooters & Girls   Mass Shooters & Girls Icon_minitimeFri Sep 27, 2013 8:13 pm

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You are great Very Happy please write more...
I will, if I find some Very Happy 
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PostSubject: Re: Mass Shooters & Girls   Mass Shooters & Girls Icon_minitimeFri Sep 27, 2013 8:26 pm

Hale-Bopp wrote:

Kip Kinkel: Had a girlfriend prior to the shooting. After she broke up with him, he seemed depressive and angry.
Kip wrote in his diary about a girl, but Im not sure, if it was the same girl:
-"Every time I talk to her, I have a small amount of hope. But then she will tear it right down.
It feels like my heart is breaking. But is that possible. I am so consumed with hate all of the
time. Could I ever love anyone?“

-"I need help. There is one person that could help, but she won’t. I need to find someone else.
I think I love her, but she could never love me. I don’t know why I try."

-"I gave her all I have, and she just threw it away. Why? Why did God just want me to be in
complete misery?"


(His writings about the girl, sound a lot like Dylan, if you ask me)
Boy, does that ever sound like Dylan.  Shudders to think if those two paired up. heh.
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PostSubject: Re: Mass Shooters & Girls   Mass Shooters & Girls Icon_minitimeWed Oct 23, 2013 8:31 am

Pekka-Eric Auvinen: In the summer of 2007, a few months prior to the shooting, Auvinen found an online girlfriend. After she quit the relationship and found a new boyfriend in the fall, Auvinen made threats towards her and her new boyfriend. In the night for the shooting, he apologized for this.
Auvinen posted videos on Youtube which contained pictures of women bondaged and also fantasies of near-rape. In one of this videos, Auvinen commented: "Women are
cheating whores, lying sluts and manipulative bitches. They are best when they are dominated, bound & gagged.”
Additional, he mentioned BDSM among the things he liked, in his manifesto.

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PostSubject: Re: Mass Shooters & Girls   Mass Shooters & Girls Icon_minitimeTue Nov 19, 2013 2:41 pm

Update for Pekka-Eric Auvinen: At this screenshot from Pekkas Youtube-channel you can see a comment from his former online-girlfriend Tana Scheel, posted one day before Pekkas rampage: "Okay thank you, I accept your apology, hope you are feeling better today". ( [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] )
It also seems like Tana Scheel posted a Video about Pekka in the aftermath of the shooting. The Video doesn't seem to exist anymore, but I found an article, where its described and quoted: [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]

Just some quotes from it:

-"The reason I have not talked to the press and the rest of you is not because I want to wash my hands of it"
- "First, he was not a Nazi. He hated Nazism."
-"Second, he was not a psychopath or a sociopath. He felt love, he felt guilt, he felt fear."
- "Third, he was not bullied or picked on, not by you or people in his life."
- In the video, Ms Scheel refutes the notion that online messages would cause him to go on a shooting spree, and admits that Auvinen was often the initiator of online arguments.
- Ms Scheel also states that Auvinen was not bullied by his classmates, but "had he been, he would have reacted to it instantly".
-Her assessment of his mental state leading up to the killings paints a picture of a young man battling mental illness.
-"So much has happened in his life since the time of that video. He was doing really well for awhile(sic) there also"
-"It would have done nothing but take away his ability to express himself through his videos, one thing which made him happy and curbed his homicidal tendencies," she says.
-Ms Scheel goes on to defend other factors such as his taste in music and video games. "Those things are not to blame (...), they also if anything connected him to other people and kept him from going over the edge sooner."
- "And his parents are not at all to blame either. He really loved them, and from what he has told me they seemed to be normal, concerned, loving people who were always there for him."


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PostSubject: Re: Mass Shooters & Girls   Mass Shooters & Girls Icon_minitimeWed Nov 20, 2013 1:30 pm

Sorry for storming in, more about Pekka...

Immediately after the news broke about the shooting she posted this to her Youtube page.

"Ok...
thank you to:
Chris/and Robin/Mike/tyrone

but... anyone else... FUCK YOU

reporters PMing me - talk to me tomorrow pls not conscience today

the rest of you - PUT FRIENDS LOCK ON ----- FUCK YOU UP THE ASS AND FIVE WAYS TO SUNDAY ... HOPE YOU FUCKING DIE AND THEN GET SHAT ON AND KICKED AND DISMEMEBERED YOU MOTHERFUCKERS"

Which was deleted and replaced with.

"ALL OF YOU WILL BE BLOCKED AND DELETED

Im evil? No, I never killed anyone I never asked him to kill anyone I never told his weak ass to kill anyone or forced him too. A lot of people get rejected without resorting to murder. He did what he did because of who he was.

You people commenting here and on his profile are doing it for your own 2 minutes of fame and dont know SHIT about the facts so FUCK OFF losers."

Her first video concerning Pekka was called "..." and was uploaded as a response/reply to one called "Tanascheel, Pekka and Shadow" which someone else had made saying there was a connection between the 3 of them. Similar to the second video, little shorter in length, she did say that she hadn't opened Pekka's last email yet and that's about it.

The video called "Pekka" was uploaded on the 10th Nov and removed on the 20/21st when she went to the US to be with the new boyfriend. It can still be seen online here [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]

Before Pekka she had contact with a 16 year old boy on Youtube who confessed to her;

"30 April 2007
i hope someday I might and my group of three others might become the new Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold. (hope that's not offending anyone because i too love Eric and Dylan)"

They carried on talking for a while until his thoughts turned more towards his new girlfriend.

Pekka and tanascheel both knew Dillon Cossey even thought the official report says otherwise.

"tanascheel | 13 de Outubro de 2007
And by the way, Regarding Shadow / Dillon ... you fucking internet warriors, keyboard tough guys who are whining now at what they did ... they was doing exactly what they said they would fucking do. So maybe you Should start putting up or shutting up too. Yeah, they may be a failure of natural selection, but I still have more respect for him than you losers who say you're gonna shoot people and know you never will."


"tanascheel | 13 de Outubro de 2007
@ BS - I think its a matter of personal taste

@ CS - No worries, everything is good and hope you are doing well Smile

@ Everyone who is commenting to me about Shadow19462, I removed him from my friends list Because I dont think they will be back and I do not need my account suspended over the hype, not Because of what they did. Just remember when you leave nasty comments about him (knowing full well they cant reply Because he is in jail), he is just a kid and you dont know the first thing about him. So you can take that shit somewhere else."

Last year her new boyfriend (not the one she left Pekka for, aborted their baby, married then cheated on... but his best friend) was arrested and charged with felony harassment for threatening to "pull an Aurora" and "kill as many as you bastards as I can". Police went to his house "where they spotted weapons, body armor and ammunition in plain sight".
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PostSubject: Re: Mass Shooters & Girls   Mass Shooters & Girls Icon_minitimeWed Nov 20, 2013 2:02 pm

I did not know that there is a potential Mass-Shooter dating circle.Laughing 
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PostSubject: Re: Mass Shooters & Girls   Mass Shooters & Girls Icon_minitimeThu Nov 21, 2013 5:30 am

Hale-Bopp wrote:
I did not know that there is a potential Mass-Shooter dating circle.Laughing 
Wow. That's...disturbing.
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PostSubject: Re: Mass Shooters & Girls   Mass Shooters & Girls Icon_minitimeThu Nov 21, 2013 8:39 am

Wideawake wrote:
Hale-Bopp wrote:
I did not know that there is a potential Mass-Shooter dating circle.Laughing 
Wow. That's...disturbing.
Oh yeah, absolutely, a mass shooter dating circle. In a thread on Amazon for a book about Kip Kinkel (can't remember which one), there's a passive-agressive argument between the writer and some woman who has been visiting Kip Kinkel in prison. She's ''defending'' him from the author's conclusions. Kip has his ''groupies'', probably like any other notorious killer out there, from Ted Bundy to Richard Ramirez, along with E & D.

Kip Kinkel also remind me a lot of Dylan in the way he writes about love and sadness. It's interesting because Mr. Langman over at the school shooter info website wrote an article where he assigns both Kip and Dylan to the category of ''psychotic mass shooter'', with delusions about reality (not necessarily in full-blown psychotic episode, though).

So, mass shooters seem to have a troubled relationship with many people, more particularly with girls. Rejection and reaction to this rejection sounds like the key here. I'll refer back to a quote I wrote down. That's from an article by psychologist Helen Smith: ''The common thread seems to be that in each killing, there has been a feeling on the part of the teenager that he could not express in words the depth of his true feelings of rage as a result of feeling rejected or hurt or stressed.'' (and that is copied in the Supplementary Reports, p.83/302 of pp. 16, 395-16, 695).

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PostSubject: Re: Mass Shooters & Girls   Mass Shooters & Girls Icon_minitimeThu Nov 21, 2013 10:35 am

@KittyKat
Do you know, if this is the original "NaturalSelector89 is a sub-par human" Video?

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JayJay wrote:
Oh yeah, absolutely, a mass shooter dating circle. In a thread on Amazon for a book about Kip Kinkel (can't remember which one), there's a passive-agressive argument between the writer and some woman who has been visiting Kip Kinkel in prison. She's ''defending'' him from the author's conclusions. Kip has his ''groupies'', probably like any other notorious killer out there, from Ted Bundy to Richard Ramirez, along with E & D.

Kip Kinkel also remind me a lot of Dylan in the way he writes about love and sadness. It's interesting because Mr. Langman over at the school shooter info website wrote an article where he assigns both Kip and Dylan to the category of ''psychotic mass shooter'', with delusions about reality (not necessarily in full-blown psychotic episode, though).

So, mass shooters seem to have a troubled relationship with many people, more particularly with girls. Rejection and reaction to this rejection sounds like the key here. I'll refer back to a quote I wrote down. That's from an article by psychologist Helen Smith: ''The common thread seems to be that in each killing, there has been a feeling on the part of the teenager that he could not express in words the depth of his true feelings of rage as a result of feeling rejected or hurt or stressed.'' (and that is copied in the Supplementary Reports, p.83/302 of pp. 16, 395-16, 695).
I always really enjoy to read Peter Langmans works and I definitive think, that he is the most interesting and fascinating scientist about Mass-shootings.
Additional to what you mentioned, he also describe Pekka-Eric Auvinen as fitting in the psychotic category, concretely in the Schizotype Personality disorder category, where he also places Dylan (as well as some other Shooters)


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PostSubject: Re: Mass Shooters & Girls   Mass Shooters & Girls Icon_minitimeThu Nov 21, 2013 2:17 pm

Hale-Bopp wrote:
@KittyKat
Do you know, if this is the original "NaturalSelector89 is a sub-par human" Video?

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Good find! Can't remember it as being so long before TJ gets to the point but it seems to be correct, I do have it somewhere but you wouldn't believe the amount of stuff I have saved. One in his series relating to Pekka and his friends. Posted on 4th July 2007, keywords: Social Darwinism Morality Hitler Stalin Lard McDonalds Burgers Debate Superhuman Subhuman. The description was:

"https://www.youtube.com/user/NaturalSelector89 The user in question. Please do not flood his channel. He will use that as an opportunity to bitch about how I sicked my dogs on him. [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] The discussion in question."
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PostSubject: Re: Mass Shooters & Girls   Mass Shooters & Girls Icon_minitimeThu Nov 21, 2013 2:41 pm

kittycat wrote:
Hale-Bopp wrote:
@KittyKat
Do you know, if this is the original "NaturalSelector89 is a sub-par human" Video?

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Good find! Can't remember it as being so long before TJ gets to the point but it seems to be correct, I do have it somewhere but you wouldn't believe the amount of stuff I have saved. One in his series relating to Pekka and his friends. Posted on 4th July 2007, keywords: Social Darwinism Morality Hitler Stalin Lard McDonalds Burgers Debate Superhuman Subhuman. The description was:

"https://www.youtube.com/user/NaturalSelector89 The user in question. Please do not flood his channel. He will use that as an opportunity to bitch about how I sicked my dogs on him. [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] The discussion in question."
Hmm, I cant watch this video.
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PostSubject: Re: Mass Shooters & Girls   Mass Shooters & Girls Icon_minitimeSat Dec 07, 2013 11:05 pm

JayJay wrote:
Wideawake wrote:
Hale-Bopp wrote:
I did not know that there is a potential Mass-Shooter dating circle.Laughing 
Wow. That's...disturbing.
Oh yeah, absolutely, a mass shooter dating circle. In a thread on Amazon for a book about Kip Kinkel (can't remember which one), there's a passive-agressive argument between the writer and some woman who has been visiting Kip Kinkel in prison. She's ''defending'' him from the author's conclusions. Kip has his ''groupies'', probably like any other notorious killer out there, from Ted Bundy to Richard Ramirez, along with E & D.

Kip Kinkel also remind me a lot of Dylan in the way he writes about love and sadness. It's interesting because Mr. Langman over at the school shooter info website wrote an article where he assigns both Kip and Dylan to the category of ''psychotic mass shooter'', with delusions about reality (not necessarily in full-blown psychotic episode, though).

So, mass shooters seem to have a troubled relationship with many people, more particularly with girls. Rejection and reaction to this rejection sounds like the key here. I'll refer back to a quote I wrote down. That's from an article by psychologist Helen Smith: ''The common thread seems to be that in each killing, there has been a feeling on the part of the teenager that he could not express in words the depth of his true feelings of rage as a result of feeling rejected or hurt or stressed.'' (and that is copied in the Supplementary Reports, p.83/302 of pp. 16, 395-16, 695).
Kip Kinkel is another school shooter I have a lot of compassion for. Listening to the audio tape of his confession breaks my heart. Agreed that his writing sounds a lot like Dylan.

Rejection and reaction to this rejection sounds like the key here.

I think that is a brilliant line. In many cases, may not even be actual rejection but a perception of rejection. But the question then becomes why they cannot cope with rejection in a "normal" (for lack of a better term) way? Is it truly mental illness in the way that a psychiatrist would define it? Is it preventable? Treatable? Inheritable or conditional? A whole can of worms.
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PostSubject: Re: Mass Shooters & Girls   Mass Shooters & Girls Icon_minitimeTue Dec 10, 2013 6:59 pm

Wideawake wrote:
JayJay wrote:
Wideawake wrote:
Hale-Bopp wrote:
I did not know that there is a potential Mass-Shooter dating circle.Laughing 
Wow. That's...disturbing.
Oh yeah, absolutely, a mass shooter dating circle. In a thread on Amazon for a book about Kip Kinkel (can't remember which one), there's a passive-agressive argument between the writer and some woman who has been visiting Kip Kinkel in prison. She's ''defending'' him from the author's conclusions. Kip has his ''groupies'', probably like any other notorious killer out there, from Ted Bundy to Richard Ramirez, along with E & D.

Kip Kinkel also remind me a lot of Dylan in the way he writes about love and sadness. It's interesting because Mr. Langman over at the school shooter info website wrote an article where he assigns both Kip and Dylan to the category of ''psychotic mass shooter'', with delusions about reality (not necessarily in full-blown psychotic episode, though).

So, mass shooters seem to have a troubled relationship with many people, more particularly with girls. Rejection and reaction to this rejection sounds like the key here. I'll refer back to a quote I wrote down. That's from an article by psychologist Helen Smith: ''The common thread seems to be that in each killing, there has been a feeling on the part of the teenager that he could not express in words the depth of his true feelings of rage as a result of feeling rejected or hurt or stressed.'' (and that is copied in the Supplementary Reports, p.83/302 of pp. 16, 395-16, 695).
Kip Kinkel is another school shooter I have a lot of compassion for. Listening to the audio tape of his confession breaks my heart. Agreed that his writing sounds a lot like Dylan.

Rejection and reaction to this rejection sounds like the key here.

I think that is a brilliant line. In many cases, may not even be actual rejection but a perception of rejection. But the question then becomes why they cannot cope with rejection in a "normal" (for lack of a better term) way? Is it truly mental illness in the way that a psychiatrist would define it? Is it preventable? Treatable? Inheritable or conditional? A whole can of worms.


Maybe not an illness, maybe more like a personality trait. Not everything is to be construed in terms of mental illness, in my opinion. It helps to have these neat little boxes from the DSM-V to rely on but, at the end of the day, each individual, even if they are mentally ill, have their own personality ''make''.

Back to perception of rejection, I don't know. Do we know why one kid handles rejection well or ''think positive'' and the other kid will become depressed, homicidal, etc.? It may have to do with self-esteem, with upbringing (delayed satisfaction from parents and surrounding?), with personality traits that are ingrained, with support from environment.

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PostSubject: Re: Mass Shooters & Girls   Mass Shooters & Girls Icon_minitimeTue Dec 10, 2013 9:54 pm

JayJay wrote:
Wideawake wrote:
JayJay wrote:
Wideawake wrote:
Hale-Bopp wrote:
I did not know that there is a potential Mass-Shooter dating circle.Laughing 
Wow. That's...disturbing.
Oh yeah, absolutely, a mass shooter dating circle. In a thread on Amazon for a book about Kip Kinkel (can't remember which one), there's a passive-agressive argument between the writer and some woman who has been visiting Kip Kinkel in prison. She's ''defending'' him from the author's conclusions. Kip has his ''groupies'', probably like any other notorious killer out there, from Ted Bundy to Richard Ramirez, along with E & D.

Kip Kinkel also remind me a lot of Dylan in the way he writes about love and sadness. It's interesting because Mr. Langman over at the school shooter info website wrote an article where he assigns both Kip and Dylan to the category of ''psychotic mass shooter'', with delusions about reality (not necessarily in full-blown psychotic episode, though).

So, mass shooters seem to have a troubled relationship with many people, more particularly with girls. Rejection and reaction to this rejection sounds like the key here. I'll refer back to a quote I wrote down. That's from an article by psychologist Helen Smith: ''The common thread seems to be that in each killing, there has been a feeling on the part of the teenager that he could not express in words the depth of his true feelings of rage as a result of feeling rejected or hurt or stressed.'' (and that is copied in the Supplementary Reports, p.83/302 of pp. 16, 395-16, 695).
Kip Kinkel is another school shooter I have a lot of compassion for. Listening to the audio tape of his confession breaks my heart. Agreed that his writing sounds a lot like Dylan.

Rejection and reaction to this rejection sounds like the key here.

I think that is a brilliant line. In many cases, may not even be actual rejection but a perception of rejection. But the question then becomes why they cannot cope with rejection in a "normal" (for lack of a better term) way? Is it truly mental illness in the way that a psychiatrist would define it? Is it preventable? Treatable? Inheritable or conditional? A whole can of worms.


Maybe not an illness, maybe more like a personality trait. Not everything is to be construed in terms of mental illness, in my opinion. It helps to have these neat little boxes from the DSM-V to rely on but, at the end of the day, each individual, even if they are mentally ill, have their own personality ''make''.

Back to perception of rejection, I don't know. Do we know why one kid handles rejection well or ''think positive'' and the other kid will become depressed, homicidal, etc.? It may have to do with self-esteem, with upbringing (delayed satisfaction from parents and surrounding?), with personality traits that are ingrained, with support from environment.

I guess what I was trying to say is that I don't think school shooters/mass murderers can always be defined as mentally ill, or that they should always be defined as mentally ill. I suppose it's more about what effect a so-called mental illness has on your everyday life than it is about grouping traits to develop a diagnosis.

As far as rejection: this may seem simplistic, but I don't think we teach good coping skills in today's world. It's been said before, but we are taught/teach to children that we can do anything and we have a right to a bright future and everybody's a star. Reality check: not true. I wonder if our entitled environment (I'm speaking specifically about the U.S.) has created a monster.
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Update for Kip Kinkel: I just noticed, that I overlooked two parts in his journal about the girl.

- "End. New day. Today of all days, I ask her to help me. I was shot down. I feel like my heart
has been ripped open and ripped apart. Right now, I’m drunk, so I don’t know what the hell
is happening to me."

- "Every time I see your face, my heart is shot with an arrow. I think she will say yes, but she
doesn’t, does she? She says, “I don’t know”. The three most fucked up words in the English
language."


And following a picture of Kip Kinkel kissing his girlfriend:

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what is sad is that Nicole Hadley died...

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PostSubject: Re: Mass Shooters & Girls   Mass Shooters & Girls Icon_minitimeThu Mar 13, 2014 2:39 pm

Update for Steven Kazmierczak: During his High School time, Steven became the boyfriend of a girl named Beth King. The odd thing about this, was that Steven was a "weirdo" and part of the goth group of the school, while Beth was described as a "cute girl who looks like Liv Tyler" which sound to me, like she was maybe more popular. But the relationship didn't seem to last long and after Beth broke up with Steve, she did spread rumors in school, that Steven has a "small penis" and cant satisfy her in bed.
Not long after the breakup, Steve got involved with another girl with the name Kim. But it seems, like this relationship was purely sexual and besides Stevens close friends, nobody knew about it. A friend of Steven described Kim as “a girl your parents wouldn’t want you to date".
Steven reportedly also made homosexual experiences during that time and later told his sister once, that he might be gay.
Later that year, Steven started to sell all his belongings to friends, who did not know why.
On December 14, 1996 Steven took an overdose of Tylenol and called Beth King. He was rushed to the Hospital and survived. He would try to commit suicide several times after this first one.
During the following months, Stevens mental condition deteriorated and he was placed in a group home for people with mental health problems. Some time after he arrived there, Steve told his psychiatrist that he had special forces, could read other peoples thoughts and could see his former girlfriend Beth King. So after all that time, she still seemed to stuck in his mind.
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PostSubject: Re: Mass Shooters & Girls   Mass Shooters & Girls Icon_minitimeSun Jul 06, 2014 3:48 pm

One reason most mass shooters weren't succesfull getting and keeping relationships is that alot of them were really anti-social and/or shy which ofcourse didn't make it easy for them.
Another reason could be that their deteriorating mental situation would make it nearly impossible to go out and socialize with any girl.
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PostSubject: Re: Mass Shooters & Girls   Mass Shooters & Girls Icon_minitimeTue Jul 08, 2014 7:12 am

Adam appears to have been sexually attracted to four groups of people: Adult males, adult females, male children and female children.

Adult males: As it is noted in the official report, Adam had Instant Messenger conversations with a user named “The Stranger”, talking (among other subjects) about homosexual fantasies (Look here: [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]
Additional, some of the posts Adam made on Shocked Beyond Belief suggest sexual interest in other Men. In one post, he called Anders Behring Breivik “cute” (while specifically mentioning the photo of Breivik in a swim suit) and jokingly indicated, that this was the reason for his interest in him. (Look here: [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] and here [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]
In another post, Adam (jokingly?) declared his interest in marrying another male User of the board, calling him “awful purty”. (Look here: [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]

Adult Females: According to a source from the Justice Department, Adam had an obsession with musician Taylor Swift, watching her videos repeatedly and writing about her at online-sites. Adam praised her “golden hair” and expressed excitement about the fact, that she named one of her albums after his favourite colours: red. He also seemed pleased about the fact, that she was involved in making the Video Game “Band Hero”. However, Adam also wrote about being disappointed with Swift for choosing One Direction member Harry Styles as boyfriend and that he didn’t expected the relationship to be lasting for a longer time.

Male Children: As it is noted in the official report, police did find some documents about the subject of pederasty on Adams PC. Among them was a screenplay about a relationship between a 10 old boy and a 30 year old man. They also found the movie “Voor Een Verloren Soldatt” (which I guess means “for a lost soldier”), which also is about a relationship between a man and a boy. (Look here: [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] and here: [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]

Female Children: For this case, we have the weakest evidence and we might be wrong in assuming, that he was sexually attracted to little girls. However, in one of his forum posts on SBB, Adam wrote about a dream he did have and described an encounter between him and his “nonexistent kindergarden-age sister”. In the dream, Adam hugs the crying girl and gives her “tenderly” kisses. While this may be an innocent description of his longing for any closeness, we could also interpret otherwise. In the dream, the girl responds to his affection with the words “I don’t want you to kiss me”. As Adam wrote, he got “annoyed that she had been brainwashed that there is something evil about kissing”. This simply fits his interest in the whole “rights for pedophiles” so well, that I can’t help but speculate that Adam expresses romantic and/or sexual interest in the little girl at this point. Also remarkable is Adams response to the girls restraint: he picks her up and tosses her over a railing. (Look here: [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]
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