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PostSubject: Re: Sue Klebold's interview   Sat Feb 13, 2016 7:07 am


Excerpts from "Meeting the Parents" from Walking in Daniel's Shoes pp 334-356:

The Harris' did not strike us as calculating or devious people. If anything, we felt they seemed rather hapless and oblivious. We concluded they likely were not aware enough, engaged enough, or perceptive enough to understand what w as going on with their son. The Harris' at least seemed to have some minimal level of involvement in their son’s life and were getting mental health counseling for him. They blamed addressing Eric's mental illness on Eric’s psychologist. The Harris' did not seem like callous or cruel people, but they also did not seem like overly empathetic or expressive people. We concluded they were not evil or totally disconnected parents, but they also did not strike us as a couple who were highly affectionate or emotionally connected to their child.

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PostSubject: Re: Sue Klebold's interview   Sat Feb 13, 2016 7:07 am

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Again, I must say there we have no real proof that Eric's parents believe he was a psychopath.
All we have is a second hand account from Mrs.Mauser that they SEEMED to accept that.
That could mean they just didn't argue when the Mausers' brought it up.
I would need much more definite proof before I accept that's what they believe.

Yes.

I do hope that one day they can find the strength to speak publicly about their ordeal. Maybe now that Susan has spoken out, they will find it easier to do so.

But God bless them for being able to get up in the morning.

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PostSubject: Re: Sue Klebold's interview   Sat Feb 13, 2016 7:12 am

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Again, I must say there we have no real proof that Eric's parents believe he was a psychopath.
All we have is a second hand account from Mrs.Mauser that they SEEMED to accept that.
That could mean they just didn't argue when the Mausers' brought it up.
I would need much more definite proof before I accept that's what they believe.

Yes.

I do hope that one day they can find the strength to speak publicly about their ordeal. Maybe now that Susan has spoken out, they will find it easier to do so.

But God bless them for being able to get up in the morning.

I guess where I am coming from is that to me, to believe that about your own child whom you obviously loved, especially a child you will never see or talk to again in this life is an enormous thing, and I just want to see something more before I come to accept that's what they believe.
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PostSubject: Re: Sue Klebold's interview   Sat Feb 13, 2016 7:16 am

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Excerpts from "Meeting the Parents" from Walking in Daniel's Shoes pp 334-356:

The Harris' did not strike us as calculating or devious people. If anything, we felt they seemed rather hapless and oblivious. We concluded they likely were not aware enough, engaged enough, or perceptive enough to understand what w as going on with their son. The Harris' at least seemed to have some minimal level of involvement in their son’s life and were getting mental health counseling for him. They blamed addressing Eric's mental illness on Eric’s psychologist. The Harris' did not seem like callous or cruel people, but they also did not seem like overly empathetic or expressive people. We concluded they were not evil or totally disconnected parents, but they also did not strike us as a couple who were highly affectionate or emotionally connected to their child.


Aren't the Mausers assuming too much here?
Sure, they could have a general opinion that Eric's childhood was lacking or he wouldn't have done what he did, but how much could they really have learned about how the Harrises' were with Eric every day in one meeting?
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PostSubject: Re: Sue Klebold's interview   Sat Feb 13, 2016 7:16 am

You know what I can't fucking stand. (And Forgive me.. I've been a super long time lurker, and have quietly followed sites like this since 2011)

What I can't fucking stand... is how they portrayed the whole ABC Episode. They took what I assume was probably a three hour long interview, and cut it into less than 20mins if that.

And they tried to turn a mothers grieving interview, into a show about gun control Razz What the Fuck. Seriously... this wasn't about portraying/selling a political view. This was a mom's response to the world...

Assholes. Complete Fucking Assholes.
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PostSubject: Re: Sue Klebold's interview   Sat Feb 13, 2016 7:19 am

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You know what I can't fucking stand. (And Forgive me.. I've been a super long time lurker, and have quietly followed sites like this since 2011)

What I can't fucking stand... is how they portrayed the whole ABC Episode. They took what I assume was probably a three hour long interview, and cut it into less than 20mins if that.

And they tried to turn a mothers grieving interview, into a show about gun control Razz What the Fuck. Seriously... this wasn't about portraying/selling a political view. This was a mom's response to the world...

Assholes. Complete Fucking Assholes.

Yeah, I know what you mean. The interview was the "hook," but then they tried to make it into a mini-documentary or something. They had that FBI lady droning on.

And here's another random complaint: they showed the Patrick Ireland clip twice, but both times they cut away from it before he fell. i know that the documentary wasn't about him, but the way they edited that clip made it lose its impact.

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PostSubject: Re: Sue Klebold's interview   Sat Feb 13, 2016 7:20 am

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I do hope that one day they can find the strength to speak publicly about their ordeal. Maybe now that Susan has spoken out, they will find it easier to do so.

Sue has released a few little responses over the years. Hardly anything significant like tonight, but still. The Harrises have only once written a letter to the victims of the family, sold their home.. and pretty much been in hiding since the event. Sad

I think Wayne might be the sole motivator in that. But.. I wouldn't expect a response or interview anytime soon... if ever.
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PostSubject: Re: Sue Klebold's interview   Sat Feb 13, 2016 7:26 am

And they portrayed Eric like a complete fucking psychopath. This was a kid.. who was a apart of little league, excelled in school... and really.. seemed like a all american teenager.

No one wakes up and dreams/wants to kill everyone around them. Seriously. They Fucking Don't. To a certain degree... these poor boys deserve respect. Something obviously changed them... something horrible. They had dreams.. they had futures, and I know they we're not heartless. They deserve respect just like anybody else.

And it's absolutely heartbreaking seeing their names thrown through the trash.. on television. These reporters don't know what happened. They have some "views" of what happened that fit into a good picture.. for cheap ratings. But... in reality they are the scum. Contemplating ideas & views as well as making up lies on people they've never met.

(To be fair.. I'm not condoning what they did. But... at the end of the day, we can't say we knew what happened. And we never will.)

To assume, without knowing facts is just being ignorant. Doing it in front of millions to push a political view and trashing someone is just being a asshole.


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PostSubject: Re: Sue Klebold's interview   Sat Feb 13, 2016 7:38 am

[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.], I don't have enough posts to send a PM response, but the answer to your question is No.
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PostSubject: Re: Sue Klebold's interview   Sat Feb 13, 2016 8:05 am

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And they portrayed Eric like a complete fucking psychopath. This was a kid.. who was a apart of little league, excelled in school... and really.. seemed like a all american teenager.

No one wakes up and dreams/wants to kill everyone around them. Seriously. They Fucking Don't. To a certain degree... these poor boys deserve respect. Something obviously changed them... something horrible. They had dreams.. they had futures, and I know they we're not heartless. They deserve respect just like anybody else.

And it's absolutely heartbreaking seeing there names thrown through the trash.. on televison. These reporters don't know what happened. They have some "views" of what happened that fit into a good picture.. for cheap ratings. If anyone... they are the scum. Contemplating and making up lies on people they've never met.

(To be fair.. I'm not condoning what they did. But... at the end of the day, we can't say we knew what happened. And we never will.)

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Wonderfully said! I agree with almost everything you said and feel the same anger and disgust at the networks tactics as you do.
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PostSubject: Re: Sue Klebold's interview   Sat Feb 13, 2016 1:18 pm

Of course the interview ended with the talk about violent videogames and movies.
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PostSubject: Re: Sue Klebold's interview   Sat Feb 13, 2016 4:26 pm

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And they portrayed Eric like a complete fucking psychopath. This was a kid.. who was a apart of little league, excelled in school... and really.. seemed like a all american teenager.

No one wakes up and dreams/wants to kill everyone around them. Seriously. They Fucking Don't. To a certain degree... these poor boys deserve respect. Something obviously changed them... something horrible. They had dreams.. they had futures, and I know they we're not heartless. They deserve respect just like anybody else.

And it's absolutely heartbreaking seeing there names thrown through the trash.. on televison. These reporters don't know what happened. They have some "views" of what happened that fit into a good picture.. for cheap ratings. If anyone... they are the scum. Contemplating and making up lies on people they've never met.

(To be fair.. I'm not condoning what they did. But... at the end of the day, we can't say we knew what happened. And we never will.)

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Wonderfully said! I agree with almost everything you said and feel the same anger and disgust at the networks tactics as you do.

I agree with all of this. Media people--blech. Am reminded of that one part from Natural Born Killers.

The whole thing had a sordidness to it. Except for the parts where Sue was speaking her mind, everyone else should've STFUed. She handled those loaded interview questions very well, didn't let the smarmy tv host exploit her emotions for shock value, and stayed on track with getting her message out there, because it wasn't the FBI's interview, it wasn't Diane Sawyer's interview, it was hers.

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PostSubject: Re: Sue Klebold's interview   Sat Feb 13, 2016 5:37 pm

I didn't learn nothing new from this interview except few photos which had never been showing in public before. I do not put the blame on Sue about that but on ABC.
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PostSubject: Re: Sue Klebold's interview   Sat Feb 13, 2016 6:33 pm

Has anybody the opportunity to watch the new interview w. BBC on Monday?
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PostSubject: Re: Sue Klebold's interview   Sat Feb 13, 2016 6:34 pm

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Has anybody the opportunity to watch the new interview w. BBC on Monday?

What's on BBC?
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PostSubject: Re: Sue Klebold's interview   Sat Feb 13, 2016 6:36 pm

Another interview Sue gave A BBC reporter (hopefully a better conducted one than Diane Sawyer): [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]
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PostSubject: Re: Sue Klebold's interview   Sat Feb 13, 2016 6:56 pm

Well.. that one is exciting. Maybe we'll actually get to hear her this time Razz (end abc rant) Razz
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PostSubject: Re: Sue Klebold's interview   Sat Feb 13, 2016 8:41 pm

Saw the interview last night.

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The Harris house smelt of gas to the point the officers had to wear gas masks.

I also did hear about the Harris's refusing the officers on 4-20, while the Klebolds simply didn't believe that Dylan could be part of it. Also, in Bowling, Wayne Harris is heard saying his son may be responsible for the massacre.

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PostSubject: Re: Sue Klebold's interview   Sat Feb 13, 2016 9:06 pm

Wait.... What?

I've never heard of the "Harris house smelt/smelling of Gas".... is this even remotely true? I mean.. I can't imagine this going undetected for any amount of time. Wouldn't this arouse suspicion significantly?
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PostSubject: Re: Sue Klebold's interview   Sat Feb 13, 2016 9:13 pm

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Wait.... What?

I've never heard of the "Harris house smelt/smelling of Gas".... is this even remotely true? I mean.. I can't imagine this going undetected for any amount of time. Wouldn't this arouse suspicion significantly?

They like to hide the facts from everyone.

Take a look at the other site.
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PostSubject: Re: Sue Klebold's interview   Sat Feb 13, 2016 9:54 pm

^That almost makes me feel like they we're desperate to write something to fill up pages.

Is it significant, maybe. But to some extent.. yeah a garage will smell like Gasoline, but nothing that would contaminate the whole house.

So.. if the Harrises home smelt so strongly.. why we're they not worried?

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On a unrelated note.... The Klebold home shows up as "Sold" in 2014 on a couple of websites. However.. Thomas is the reported owner.



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PostSubject: Re: Sue Klebold's interview   Sun Feb 14, 2016 2:08 am

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^That almost makes me feel like they we're desperate to write something to fill up pages.

Is it significant, maybe. But to some extent.. yeah a garage will smell like Gasoline, but nothing that would contaminate the whole house.

So.. if the Harrises home smelt so strongly.. why we're they not worried?

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On a unrelated note.... The Klebold home shows up as "Sold" in 2014 on a couple of websites. However.. Thomas is the reported owner.




The reason why the house smelt like gas was because of E&D having made final prepations there after Eric's parent had left for work.
On that day, E &D went back to Eric's house where they finished their work, made their final videotape and I guess just hung out for a bit. I'm not sure how long they were there.An hour and a half maybe?
Something like that.
Obviously Eric cared nothing about trying to disguise anything at this point.When the cops went down to his room, they also found a sawed off shotgun barrel and gun parts out in plain sight.
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PostSubject: Re: Sue Klebold's interview   Sun Feb 14, 2016 2:11 am

Something else that makes me angry is that Sue has to be so subtle and tiptoe around stating her continued devotion and love for her child, or risk an angry backlash.
It's like people are incredibly offended that she still dares to love her son and they demand that she be apologetic about it.
A mother should never have to apologize for her love for her child ever.

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PostSubject: Re: Sue Klebold's interview   Sun Feb 14, 2016 2:43 am

[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]: yes you are so right. but i think this is how society works Crying or Very sad
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PostSubject: Re: Sue Klebold's interview   Mon Feb 15, 2016 9:33 pm

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Please [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] or whoever, post the US airing dates and times for these BBC programs.
A close relative of mine gets BBC america and is  going to let me come to their house to watch and record them.
Thank you!!!!!

[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] Here you have, the episode website with info about broadcasts: [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]

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PostSubject: Re: Sue Klebold's interview   Tue Feb 16, 2016 2:07 am

Thank you Gonz.
I am very bummed out but the interview today did not air on BBC America at all. I am hoping that the special coming up this weekend will.

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PostSubject: Re: Sue Klebold's interview   Wed Feb 24, 2016 1:26 am

Does anyone know if there us a transcript of the BBC A killer in the family program?

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PostSubject: Re: Sue Klebold's interview   Sat Mar 05, 2016 1:55 am

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PostSubject: Re: Sue Klebold's interview   Tue Mar 15, 2016 3:28 am

Found a random thought by a confused person worth sharing.


13 Feb 2016 03:28
So wait... They're using this hour to vilify Eric Harris?

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PostSubject: Re: Sue Klebold's interview   Thu Mar 17, 2016 5:20 am

Thank you for uploading the interviews, [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.].

I would have liked to have heard more from Sue speaking freely, rather than the journalists leading the conversation with questions that I personally think were ridiculous. "Do you still love Dylan? Could have stopped Columbine? Do you ever think about the victims?"

I would have preferred questions like:

- Describe the dynamic between Dylan and Eric when you saw them interact.
- Talk about the ketchup incident and what you reported in your book about the freshmen.
- What's your favorite memory of Dylan?
- What questions do you feel that you should have asked Dylan, or what specific conversations should you have had?

I want to know her thoughts and memories, not the same old bullshit about how Eric is a psychopath and no, she still doesn't know how he hid all this.
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