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PostSubject: Re: Dylan's mental state    Sun Apr 03, 2016 12:09 pm

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this thread's on fire,dog.
I understand both sides,but truth has been said:most 'columbiners'(this word alone is cringeworthy) girls feel sympathy for E&D because they're cute white teens who acted badass and had 'love sensibility'(as on the also cringeworthy Dylan letters).I doubt if they were obese greasy nerds who looked hispanic or black or anything they would receive all this sympathy.
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Truer words have never been written before in this forum.

What we have in this forum, I think, is Columbiners vs. Columbine researchers (I deign to use the word "enthusiast" for obvious reasons). But there's no reason for us to argue, belittle, or be mean to anyone. I suppose it all boils down to why and what we hope to get out of this forum. I am looking for more info on the case, stuff that hasn't been considered much before (see [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]'s stickied thread "Dylan's Journals", e.g.), and more enlightenment on this "pet" subject of mine in my professional work as well.


ThoughtBox,there is some truth to the vs point you made here but I must point out that the researchers greatly outnumber the Columbiners on this forum.Including Squid,I think there are 3 of us who are active here.There are a couple more who I believe are Columbiners by their user names but they don't say much so I can't say for sure.As this is a discussion board not a Columbiner board,I can't complain about that but you could say that we Columbiners are outnumbered by a wide margin.It makes no difference.I just think it's worth noting.
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PostSubject: Re: Dylan's mental state    Sun Apr 03, 2016 12:15 pm

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This is not JUST about bullying this is about putting an end to this flawed society! This is about starting a revolution. It's not the only revolution happening. But it is a start for the school system. BABYLON MUST BE DESTROYED! All societies have and will fall. It is time to end this. And rebuild a paradise. In this paradise. The world will be in balance it will know world peace. Sadly you the hoi polloi will not let the parents of E&D know in their lifetime their sons could/are martyrs of a new beginning for society. Their victims DID NOT die in vain. They died for a good cause. THERE DEATHS ARE HONORABLE. I know you people think I'm bat shit crazy and are a little scared but it's because you don't understand. D&E did what they had to do. No one would listen. You people well not listen. How many teen suicides well you let go on?????? How much pain and suffering in the world will you let go on? How much land, water, and air will you let be destroyed?? The governments, the law makers, the bankers, the school system, the people with power THEY ARE THE MURDERS THEY ARE THE BULLIES. Wake the fuck up. Stop playing your stupid roles and open your eyes and mind.

Let me ask you this if Hitler went to a movie theatre. And you worked at that movie theatre would you do as your told or would you bomb it and prevent all the suffering of millions granted you'd also be Killing lots of other people in the process?

Squid,what you are speaking about here will never happen until the world ends, the final battle occurs which is when Christ will return.After that happens there will be a new world, a perfect world where all will dwell in peace and harmony and there is no suffering or cruelty anymore.
But look to Christ as he is the only one who will bring this about.
Humans will never ever make it happen.
With human nature being as it is, they couldn't even if they tried.
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PostSubject: Re: Dylan's mental state    Sun Apr 03, 2016 12:25 pm

I'm not gong to sit around waiting for Christ. If there is a god, he made me. I am a part of him. I have the power to bring on a judgement day so does every human if they look inside there hearts and see what is really there. I hope to see heaven on earth in my lifetime even if destruction is necessary.
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PostSubject: Re: Dylan's mental state    Sun Apr 03, 2016 12:37 pm

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This is not JUST about bullying this is about putting an end to this flawed society! This is about starting a revolution. It's not the only revolution happening. But it is a start for the school system. BABYLON MUST BE DESTROYED! All societies have and will fall. It is time to end this. And rebuild a paradise. In this paradise. The world will be in balance it will know world peace. Sadly you the hoi polloi will not let the parents of E&D know in their lifetime their sons could/are martyrs of a new beginning for society. Their victims DID NOT die in vain. They died for a good cause. THERE DEATHS ARE HONORABLE. I know you people think I'm bat shit crazy and are a little scared but it's because you don't understand. D&E did what they had to do. No one would listen. You people well not listen. How many teen suicides well you let go on?????? How much pain and suffering in the world will you let go on? How much land, water, and air will you let be destroyed?? The governments, the law makers, the bankers, the school system, the people with power THEY ARE THE MURDERS THEY ARE THE BULLIES. Wake the fuck up. Stop playing your stupid roles and open your eyes and mind.

Let me ask you this if Hitler went to a movie theatre. And you worked at that movie theatre would you do as your told or would you bomb it and prevent all the suffering of millions granted you'd also be Killing lots of other people in the process?

Squid,what you are speaking about here will never happen until the world ends, the final battle occurs which is when Christ will return.After that happens there will be a new world, a perfect world where all will dwell in peace and harmony and there is no suffering or cruelty anymore.
But look to Christ as he is the only one who will bring this about.
Humans will never ever make it happen.
With human nature being as it is, they couldn't even if they tried.

Thank you, I didn't realize the disparity in numbers. I think I get caught up in reading the posts and not looking at the names/affiliations/etc.

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PostSubject: Re: Dylan's mental state    Sun Apr 03, 2016 1:18 pm

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I'm not gong to sit around waiting for Christ. If there is a god, he made me. I am a part of him. I have the power to bring on a judgement day so does every human if they look inside there hearts and see what is really there. I hope to see heaven on earth in my lifetime even if destruction is necessary.

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PostSubject: Re: Dylan's mental state    Sun Apr 03, 2016 1:44 pm

[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] then why do you keep coming to this post? I was asked to share my views and keep explaining because they did not get it. And in doing such I get attacked which makes me want to explain more. So in the future just avoid this post. Read and comment on the others. I'm going to only explain my personal views in this post. Then I'll be silent about my personal views and only leave comments in the facts and evidence section. Not the thoughts on the shooting section. Because no one wants to hear any radically different thinking. And I'm tired of people trying to personally attack me. Stop it. You do not know me.
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PostSubject: Re: Dylan's mental state    Sun Apr 03, 2016 2:05 pm

"How much pain and suffering in the world will you let go on?" how can pain and suffering be stamped out with more pain and suffering? Im not trying to be mean but squid please get some help.
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PostSubject: Re: Dylan's mental state    Sun Apr 03, 2016 2:27 pm

I am not attacking you squid. I see how passionate your posts are and because of that i have challenged myself to try to understand your point of view. I have stretched my mind like a piece of taffy and i can kind of see some of your points. But overall i really dont get it. Frankly i find your views frightening and i hope you can open your mind and explore other options
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PostSubject: Re: Dylan's mental state    Sun Apr 03, 2016 2:36 pm

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I'm not gong to sit around waiting for Christ. If there is a god, he made me. I am a part of him. I have the power to bring on a judgement day so does every human if they look inside there hearts and see what is really there. I hope to see heaven on earth in my lifetime even if destruction is necessary.

[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] - can you not ban this utter, utter clown? I don't come here to read this trash.

This. Enough is enough. Either Squid is a massive sadistic WUM or serious about what he/she is saying. Either way it's sickening.
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PostSubject: Re: Dylan's mental state    Sun Apr 03, 2016 2:37 pm

[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] has been banned indefinitely from this forum. I gave her a final written warning within this thread yesterday asking her to stop with the cruel comments towards the children murdered at Columbine. I was once again ignored as she went on to say that these children had a purpose for being murdered. These additional comments resulted in her ban. I absolutely WILL NOT allow anyone to leave comments on my forum saying that these innocent children and innocent teacher deserved to die or that their deaths were justified in any way whatsoever.

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PostSubject: Re: Dylan's mental state    Sun Apr 03, 2016 2:55 pm

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[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] has been banned indefinitely from this forum. I gave her a final written warning within this thread yesterday asking her to stop with the cruel comments towards the children murdered at Columbine. I was once again ignored as she went on to say that these children had a purpose for being murdered. These additional comments resulted in her ban. I absolutely WILL NOT allow anyone to leave comments on my forum saying that these innocent children and innocent teacher deserved to die or that their deaths were justified in any way whatsoever.

Good. What do we do when we get an oddball like that? Do they need reporting anywhere? His/ Her comments could be interpreted as quite threatening.
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PostSubject: Re: Dylan's mental state    Sun Apr 03, 2016 6:18 pm

^ man, I think it's time to get off this forum now, too many weirdos/messed up people.
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PostSubject: Re: Dylan's mental state    Sun Apr 03, 2016 6:41 pm

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^ man, I think it's time to get off this forum now, too many weirdos/messed up people.

It really is quite worrying as to who is coming on and posting some of this stuff.
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PostSubject: Re: Dylan's mental state    Sun Apr 03, 2016 7:13 pm

A forum of this nature is always going to attract the wrong sorts, the important thing is that action has been taken. I can completely see why the owner might want to keep some controversial figures around to boost activity on the forum, but some posters lurking here genuinely sound dangerous. Squid, whoever that person was needed serious help if the posts were serious. There's still others here too that might need looking at.
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PostSubject: Re: Dylan's mental state    Sun Apr 03, 2016 7:34 pm

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A forum of this nature is always going to attract the wrong sorts, the important thing is that action has been taken. I can completely see why the owner might want to keep some controversial figures around to boost activity on the forum, but some posters lurking here genuinely sound dangerous. Squid, whoever that person was needed serious help if the posts were serious. There's still others here too that might need looking at.

I just think it's kind of unhealthy to even be on here talking about this shit for years on end. It's not productive or good for your life to still be talking about this stuff years after. I was around when it happened and was the same age as these two, enough is enough.
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PostSubject: Re: Dylan's mental state    Sun Apr 03, 2016 7:48 pm

Problem is, they and Columbine get brought up every single time a school shooting happens in America (even college).

To dig even deeper, since April 20th 1999, has shit really changed in America? I mean, really? Think about it. I would suggest America has gotten even worse since.



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PostSubject: Re: Dylan's mental state    Sun Apr 03, 2016 7:51 pm

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A forum of this nature is always going to attract the wrong sorts, the important thing is that action has been taken. I can completely see why the owner might want to keep some controversial figures around to boost activity on the forum, but some posters lurking here genuinely sound dangerous. Squid, whoever that person was needed serious help if the posts were serious. There's still others here too that might need looking at.

I just think it's kind of unhealthy to even be on here talking about this shit for years on end. It's not productive or good for your life to still be talking about this stuff years after. I was around when it happened and was the same age as these two, enough is enough.

True. I was eight when this happened, only really took interest in my teens and now i'm 24 and still crave to know more about the tragedy.  It's very unproductive but then again so are so many other things we do in our daily lives. Some people might cook the same shit over and over.  I'm most likely talking shite here though as I've a few beers on me. Razz
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PostSubject: Re: Dylan's mental state    Sun Apr 03, 2016 7:52 pm

I wanted to warn Squid that she would get banned if she kept on with those sort of comments but I didn't know if it would be appropriate to say anything.

Who still needs looking at here Hectic? I hope you don't mean me as I am no threat to anyone.Not every Columbiner is some dangerous threat.
There are at least a few thousand die hard Columbiners all over the globe and of those numbers I'd say less than 100 have ever taken or planned to take any sort of action.
I have heard of a few Columbiners over the years who have sadly killed themselves,but that's not the same thing.

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PostSubject: Re: Dylan's mental state    Sun Apr 03, 2016 7:53 pm

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A forum of this nature is always going to attract the wrong sorts, the important thing is that action has been taken. I can completely see why the owner might want to keep some controversial figures around to boost activity on the forum, but some posters lurking here genuinely sound dangerous. Squid, whoever that person was needed serious help if the posts were serious. There's still others here too that might need looking at.

I just think it's kind of unhealthy to even be on here talking about this shit for years on end. It's not productive or good for your life to still be talking about this stuff years after. I was around when it happened and was the same age as these two, enough is enough.

Goodbye then. I hope you enjoy your new healthy choices.

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PostSubject: Re: Dylan's mental state    Sun Apr 03, 2016 7:59 pm

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I wanted to warn Squid that she would get banned if she kept on with those sort of comments but I didn't know if it would be appropriate to say anything.

Who still needs looking at here Hectic? I hope you don't mean me as I am no threat to anyone.Not every Columbiner is some dangerous threat.
There are at least a few thousand die hard Columbiners all over the globe and of those numbers I'd say less than 100 have ever taken or planned to take any sort of action.
I have heard of a few Columbiners  over the years who have sadly killed themselves,but that's not the same thing.

I wasn't referring to you although I do disagree with the angle of some of your posts.
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PostSubject: Re: Dylan's mental state    Sun Apr 03, 2016 8:02 pm

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I wanted to warn Squid that she would get banned if she kept on with those sort of comments but I didn't know if it would be appropriate to say anything.

Who still needs looking at here Hectic? I hope you don't mean me as I am no threat to anyone.Not every Columbiner is some dangerous threat.
There are at least a few thousand die hard Columbiners all over the globe and of those numbers I'd say less than 100 have ever taken or planned to take any sort of action.
I have heard of a few Columbiners  over the years who have sadly killed themselves,but that's not the same thing.

I wasn't referring to you although I do disagree with the angle of some of your posts.


That's fine.I just don't want anyone to think that about me.
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PostSubject: Re: Dylan's mental state    Sun Apr 03, 2016 8:19 pm

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I wanted to warn Squid that she would get banned if she kept on with those sort of comments but I didn't know if it would be appropriate to say anything.

Who still needs looking at here Hectic? I hope you don't mean me as I am no threat to anyone.Not every Columbiner is some dangerous threat.
There are at least a few thousand die hard Columbiners all over the globe and of those numbers I'd say less than 100 have ever taken or planned to take any sort of action.
I have heard of a few Columbiners  over the years who have sadly killed themselves,but that's not the same thing.

I wasn't referring to you although I do disagree with the angle of some of your posts.

That's fine.I just don't want anyone to think that about me.

It would be ridiculous for anyone to think that based on the posts I've read from you. If it makes people uncomfortable, that's not your problem because you didn't do anything wrong. Don't worry about what anyone thinks of you, if you can help it, because you know what's in your heart and that's all that matters.

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PostSubject: Re: Dylan's mental state    Sun Apr 03, 2016 8:46 pm

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I wanted to warn Squid that she would get banned if she kept on with those sort of comments but I didn't know if it would be appropriate to say anything.

Who still needs looking at here Hectic? I hope you don't mean me as I am no threat to anyone.Not every Columbiner is some dangerous threat.
There are at least a few thousand die hard Columbiners all over the globe and of those numbers I'd say less than 100 have ever taken or planned to take any sort of action.
I have heard of a few Columbiners  over the years who have sadly killed themselves,but that's not the same thing.

I wasn't referring to you although I do disagree with the angle of some of your posts.

That's fine.I just don't want anyone to think that about me.

It would be ridiculous for anyone to think that based on the posts I've read from you. If it makes people uncomfortable, that's not your problem because you didn't do anything wrong. Don't worry about what anyone thinks of you, if you can help it, because you know what's in your heart and that's all that matters.

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PostSubject: Re: Dylan's mental state    Sun Apr 03, 2016 9:16 pm

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I wanted to warn Squid that she would get banned if she kept on with those sort of comments but I didn't know if it would be appropriate to say anything.

Who still needs looking at here Hectic? I hope you don't mean me as I am no threat to anyone.Not every Columbiner is some dangerous threat.
There are at least a few thousand die hard Columbiners all over the globe and of those numbers I'd say less than 100 have ever taken or planned to take any sort of action.
I have heard of a few Columbiners  over the years who have sadly killed themselves,but that's not the same thing.

I wasn't referring to you although I do disagree with the angle of some of your posts.


That's fine.I just don't want anyone to think that about me.

You seem like a good guy, It's just that the ''you don't know what I've been through, if you did you would sympathasise  with E&D'' stuff that bothers me. Seems almost pretentious. Nothing could make me feel sorry for them, although I am very interested in what surrounds the tragedy.  It sounds like you did go through hell and you almost took lives yourself  , but why do you need to use your painful experiences to then display sorrow for two kids that actually did something as unforgivably terrible?
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PostSubject: Re: Dylan's mental state    Sun Apr 03, 2016 9:27 pm

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I wanted to warn Squid that she would get banned if she kept on with those sort of comments but I didn't know if it would be appropriate to say anything.

Who still needs looking at here Hectic? I hope you don't mean me as I am no threat to anyone.Not every Columbiner is some dangerous threat.
There are at least a few thousand die hard Columbiners all over the globe and of those numbers I'd say less than 100 have ever taken or planned to take any sort of action.
I have heard of a few Columbiners  over the years who have sadly killed themselves,but that's not the same thing.

I wasn't referring to you although I do disagree with the angle of some of your posts.


That's fine.I just don't want anyone to think that about me.

You seem like a good guy, It's just that the ''you don't know what I've been through, if you did you would sympathasise  with E&D'' stuff that bothers me. Seems almost pretentious. Nothing could make me feel sorry for them, although I am very interested in what surrounds the tragedy.  It sounds like you did go through hell and you almost took lives yourself  , but why do you need to use your painful experiences to then display sorrow for two kids that actually did something as unforgivably terrible?


You can say that now though without having been through that level of bullying.Or at least you don't seem like you have been there yourself.
If you haven't been through it, how can you know that you'd never feel sorry for them?
I've felt sorry for them since the day it happened.
I've explained my feelings, reasoning and experiences extensively.
If you don't understand why I feel this way by now,theres nothing I could possibly say would make you understand.

Maybe not every single terribly bullied person in the world would but I have talked to a few hundred people over the years who have been through a severe level of bullying and every one of them felt some level of sympathy with E &D.
This is my anecdotal experience.

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PostSubject: Re: Dylan's mental state    Sun Apr 03, 2016 9:33 pm

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I wanted to warn Squid that she would get banned if she kept on with those sort of comments but I didn't know if it would be appropriate to say anything.

Who still needs looking at here Hectic? I hope you don't mean me as I am no threat to anyone.Not every Columbiner is some dangerous threat.
There are at least a few thousand die hard Columbiners all over the globe and of those numbers I'd say less than 100 have ever taken or planned to take any sort of action.
I have heard of a few Columbiners  over the years who have sadly killed themselves,but that's not the same thing.

I wasn't referring to you although I do disagree with the angle of some of your posts.


That's fine.I just don't want anyone to think that about me.

You seem like a good guy, It's just that the ''you don't know what I've been through, if you did you would sympathasise  with E&D'' stuff that bothers me. Seems almost pretentious. Nothing could make me feel sorry for them, although I am very interested in what surrounds the tragedy.  It sounds like you did go through hell and you almost took lives yourself  , but why do you need to use your painful experiences to then display sorrow for two kids that actually did something as unforgivably terrible?


You can say that now though without having been through that level of bullying.Or at least you don't seem like you have been there yourself.
If you haven't been through it, how can you know that you'd never feel sorry for them?
I've felt sorry for them since the day it happened.
I've explained my feelings, reasoning and experiences extensively.
If you don't understand why I feel this way by now,theres nothing I could  possibly say would make you understand.

Maybe not every single terribly bullied person in the world would but I have talked to a few hundred people over the years who have been through a severe level of bullying and every one of them felt some level of sympathy with E &D.
This is my anecdotal experience.


This is the pretentious stuff I'm talking about. I was bullied in secondary school, which in Ireland, is the equivalent of high school in America. Myself and my best friend were physically attacked and verbally abused constantly. We are still friends to this day and we do occasionally talk about the bullying that went on and our hate, but never would we look back and say we wish we did anything or feel sympathy for those that did.

Also, again, you have no idea the extent of E&D's bullying.
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PostSubject: Re: Dylan's mental state    Sun Apr 03, 2016 9:44 pm

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I wanted to warn Squid that she would get banned if she kept on with those sort of comments but I didn't know if it would be appropriate to say anything.

Who still needs looking at here Hectic? I hope you don't mean me as I am no threat to anyone.Not every Columbiner is some dangerous threat.
There are at least a few thousand die hard Columbiners all over the globe and of those numbers I'd say less than 100 have ever taken or planned to take any sort of action.
I have heard of a few Columbiners  over the years who have sadly killed themselves,but that's not the same thing.

I wasn't referring to you although I do disagree with the angle of some of your posts.


That's fine.I just don't want anyone to think that about me.

You seem like a good guy, It's just that the ''you don't know what I've been through, if you did you would sympathasise  with E&D'' stuff that bothers me. Seems almost pretentious. Nothing could make me feel sorry for them, although I am very interested in what surrounds the tragedy.  It sounds like you did go through hell and you almost took lives yourself  , but why do you need to use your painful experiences to then display sorrow for two kids that actually did something as unforgivably terrible?


You can say that now though without having been through that level of bullying.Or at least you don't seem like you have been there yourself.
If you haven't been through it, how can you know that you'd never feel sorry for them?
I've felt sorry for them since the day it happened.
I've explained my feelings, reasoning and experiences extensively.
If you don't understand why I feel this way by now,theres nothing I could  possibly say would make you understand.

Maybe not every single terribly bullied person in the world would but I have talked to a few hundred people over the years who have been through a severe level of bullying and every one of them felt some level of sympathy with E &D.
This is my anecdotal experience.


This is the pretentious stuff I'm talking about. I was bullied in secondary school, which in Ireland, is the equivalent of high school in America. Myself and my best friend were physically attacked and verbally abused constantly. We are still friends to this day and we do talk about the bullying that went on and our hate, but never would we look back and say we wish we did anything or feel sympathy for those that did.

Also, again, you have no idea the extent of E&D's bullying.


I'm sorry that happened to you and your friend. I am not trying to be pretentious.I am only endeavoring to share my perspectives , my past and my experiences as fully as I can.You had one experience with your bullying,I had another. Your feelings took one path regarding your bullying, mine took another.
It doesn't make either invalid, only different.I guess when it comes down to it either you understand why someone would be a Columbiner, even if you'd never be one yourself, or you don't.
I do not know what else I can say to you and I am starting to feel like your pushing me for some answer that I either can't give or would not want to give.

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PostSubject: Re: Dylan's mental state    Sun Apr 03, 2016 9:59 pm

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I wanted to warn Squid that she would get banned if she kept on with those sort of comments but I didn't know if it would be appropriate to say anything.

Who still needs looking at here Hectic? I hope you don't mean me as I am no threat to anyone.Not every Columbiner is some dangerous threat.
There are at least a few thousand die hard Columbiners all over the globe and of those numbers I'd say less than 100 have ever taken or planned to take any sort of action.
I have heard of a few Columbiners  over the years who have sadly killed themselves,but that's not the same thing.

I wasn't referring to you although I do disagree with the angle of some of your posts.


That's fine.I just don't want anyone to think that about me.

You seem like a good guy, It's just that the ''you don't know what I've been through, if you did you would sympathasise  with E&D'' stuff that bothers me. Seems almost pretentious. Nothing could make me feel sorry for them, although I am very interested in what surrounds the tragedy.  It sounds like you did go through hell and you almost took lives yourself  , but why do you need to use your painful experiences to then display sorrow for two kids that actually did something as unforgivably terrible?


You can say that now though without having been through that level of bullying.Or at least you don't seem like you have been there yourself.
If you haven't been through it, how can you know that you'd never feel sorry for them?
I've felt sorry for them since the day it happened.
I've explained my feelings, reasoning and experiences extensively.
If you don't understand why I feel this way by now,theres nothing I could  possibly say would make you understand.

Maybe not every single terribly bullied person in the world would but I have talked to a few hundred people over the years who have been through a severe level of bullying and every one of them felt some level of sympathy with E &D.
This is my anecdotal experience.


This is the pretentious stuff I'm talking about. I was bullied in secondary school, which in Ireland, is the equivalent of high school in America. Myself and my best friend were physically attacked and verbally abused constantly. We are still friends to this day and we do talk about the bullying that went on and our hate, but never would we look back and say we wish we did anything or feel sympathy for those that did.

Also, again, you have no idea the extent of E&D's bullying.


I'm sorry that happened to you and your friend. I am not trying to be pretentious.I am only endeavoring to share my perspectives , my past and my experiences as fully as I can.You had one experience with your bullying,I had another. Your feelings took one path regarding your bullying, mine took another.
It doesn't make either invalid, only different.I guess when it comes down to it either you understand why someone would be a Columbiner, even if you'd never be one yourself, or you don't.
I do not know what else I can say to you and I am starting to feel like your pushing me for some answer that I either can't give or would not want to give.


I'm not pushing you for anything, it's just that you come across as saying that unless you were bullied as severe as you were, you won't understand or feel sorrow for two mass murderers. It just doesn't register in my book.
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PostSubject: Re: Dylan's mental state    Sun Apr 03, 2016 10:04 pm

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I wanted to warn Squid that she would get banned if she kept on with those sort of comments but I didn't know if it would be appropriate to say anything.

Who still needs looking at here Hectic? I hope you don't mean me as I am no threat to anyone.Not every Columbiner is some dangerous threat.
There are at least a few thousand die hard Columbiners all over the globe and of those numbers I'd say less than 100 have ever taken or planned to take any sort of action.
I have heard of a few Columbiners  over the years who have sadly killed themselves,but that's not the same thing.

I wasn't referring to you although I do disagree with the angle of some of your posts.


That's fine.I just don't want anyone to think that about me.

You seem like a good guy, It's just that the ''you don't know what I've been through, if you did you would sympathasise  with E&D'' stuff that bothers me. Seems almost pretentious. Nothing could make me feel sorry for them, although I am very interested in what surrounds the tragedy.  It sounds like you did go through hell and you almost took lives yourself  , but why do you need to use your painful experiences to then display sorrow for two kids that actually did something as unforgivably terrible?


You can say that now though without having been through that level of bullying.Or at least you don't seem like you have been there yourself.
If you haven't been through it, how can you know that you'd never feel sorry for them?
I've felt sorry for them since the day it happened.
I've explained my feelings, reasoning and experiences extensively.
If you don't understand why I feel this way by now,theres nothing I could  possibly say would make you understand.

Maybe not every single terribly bullied person in the world would but I have talked to a few hundred people over the years who have been through a severe level of bullying and every one of them felt some level of sympathy with E &D.
This is my anecdotal experience.


This is the pretentious stuff I'm talking about. I was bullied in secondary school, which in Ireland, is the equivalent of high school in America. Myself and my best friend were physically attacked and verbally abused constantly. We are still friends to this day and we do talk about the bullying that went on and our hate, but never would we look back and say we wish we did anything or feel sympathy for those that did.

Also, again, you have no idea the extent of E&D's bullying.


I'm sorry that happened to you and your friend. I am not trying to be pretentious.I am only endeavoring to share my perspectives , my past and my experiences as fully as I can.You had one experience with your bullying,I had another. Your feelings took one path regarding your bullying, mine took another.
It doesn't make either invalid, only different.I guess when it comes down to it either you understand why someone would be a Columbiner, even if you'd never be one yourself, or you don't.
I do not know what else I can say to you and I am starting to feel like your pushing me for some answer that I either can't give or would not want to give.


I'm not pushing you for anything, it's just that you come across as saying that unless you were bullied as severe as you were, you won't understand or feel sorrow for two mass murderers. It just doesn't register in my book.

Okay.I guess we simply can't come to a meeting of the minds on this.
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PostSubject: Re: Dylan's mental state    Mon Apr 04, 2016 1:22 am

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[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] has been banned indefinitely from this forum. I gave her a final written warning within this thread yesterday asking her to stop with the cruel comments towards the children murdered at Columbine. I was once again ignored as she went on to say that these children had a purpose for being murdered. These additional comments resulted in her ban. I absolutely WILL NOT allow anyone to leave comments on my forum saying that these innocent children and innocent teacher deserved to die or that their deaths were justified in any way whatsoever.

Good. What do we do when we get an oddball like that? Do they need reporting anywhere? His/ Her comments could be interpreted as quite threatening.
Sorry it took me awhile to respond, but I'm just now reading through this thread. In the 3 years that I've had this forum this is the first time that we've ever had someone post on the board that they are glad Columbine happened and/or they wished more people would have died. And also the first time anyone posted all this bible stuff about revolution and how to end all suffering. Which honestly makes no sense to me, how are we going to end all suffering by blowing people up, which causes suffering? Maybe that's why I think like an Atheist because all of the stuff seems far fetched and completely contradicts itself.

But anyhow, this forum is not the place for that kind of discussion and debate. If someone wants to have an end of the world, new world debate or whatever, OK that's one thing but to come here and repeatedly say things like wishing Dylan and Eric killed more people, no, I'm not having it. And this is exactly the reason people have a problem with Columbine fans, because of stuff like what happened in this thread. You can sympathize with the boys without thinking these children deserved to die because they didn't. Dylan and Eric were both mentally sick. Their way of thinking was flawed because of that. This has nothing to do with God trying to make things better and teach people lessons or whatever, this was about 2 mentally sick kids who got together and killed people. If they were not mentally sick, they never would have done it because people who aren't mentally sick don't think that way.

With Squid, I gave her many warnings and chances to stop this nonsense. Against my better judgement and several of members asking me both on the board and in PM's to ban her, I still gave her a chance. These last comments were it, she used up her last chance. If and when I unban her, I don't know. Normally the first ban is only 2 weeks unless I feel that what they've done was enough for a permanent ban and I haven't decided on that yet.

About reporting her comments, she didn't threaten anyone here on the board, if she had then yes, I'd report her but she didn't. It's not up to me to tell people to get mental help or evaluate their mental health. While it is clear something is out of place for her to be making these kinds of posts, I am just an Admin on a forum, I have no business telling anyone to get help.

Hopefully things will calm down now and I will be once again going through this thread and editing out any remarks made towards the victims of Columbine. Since she only made a few posts since the last time I cleaned up this thread, I will only edit out what she has said so no one else has to lose any posts.


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