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PostSubject: highlights of the 11k   Tue Mar 29, 2016 6:38 pm

Anyone care to share/discuss the most informative or key points from the 11k? I would love to sit down and read all of it but my ADD is not allowing me to lol. Thanks in advance
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PostSubject: Re: highlights of the 11k   Tue Mar 29, 2016 6:52 pm

I'd like to see this too, no ADD just too lazy. But first, what is the 11k?
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PostSubject: Re: highlights of the 11k   Tue Mar 29, 2016 7:08 pm

11000 page report of eyewitness accounts and evidence..lots of juicy stuff in it I've heard
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PostSubject: Pages 1-500   Tue Mar 29, 2016 7:45 pm

1.  These are just a few things that jumped out at me for whatever reason as I was reading them (I was about 2,000 pages in when I got sidetracked with irl stuff)
2.  I apologize for the many typos
3.  The 11k documents are a collection of eyewitness accounts and interviews from thousands of different people, so keep in mind there are a lot of contradictions within it.  


11k-report
p001-100
page 10
After Klebold pulled the chair out, he shot the shotgun underneath their table... Doyle had her right hand resting on Corey DePooter's right shoulder when the shotgun blast occurred.  She stated she began screaming.  She stated she was probably screaming for a while because at one point she realized that she was screaming and that she needed to stop.  When she stopped screaming she felt a tingling sensation descibed as "pins and needles" in her right hand.  She could hear both male suspects laughing.

11k-report
p101-200
page 58
Steepleton observed the taller suspect walk in the desk area on the west side of the Library.  He stated this was Dylan Klebold.  Although he had not known Klebold previously, he could tell from the news reports that the taller individual was identified as Dylan Klebold.  He stated Klebold looked directly at him and smiled.  Klebold then lifted up the sawed off shotgun he had in his hand and shot directly at Steepleton's table...
After the shotgun was fired, Steepleton stated he noticed his left knee was warm.  He realized then that he had been shot.  Hall had an injury to his right leg.  Steepleton described Hall's leg as being "torn up."  At this point, Ireland reached over to help Hall.  As Ireland tried to help him, Ireland's head went above the top of the desk.  Steepleton heard another shot ring out, and saw Ireland go down.  Steepleton could see that Ireland had been shot in the head.

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p201-300
page 47
I asked witness Kyler how he knew suspect Klebold.  He told me, along with his mother, that during November and December of 1998, suspect Klebold began harassing him at the school and had threatened him to the point where witness Susan Kyler reported the incident to school authorities who said they would take care of the problem and were aware of the problems caused by suspect Klebold.  He also said he has not had any problems with any of the Trench Coat Mafia students except for suspect Klebold during the harrassment.  Witness Kyler said when suspect Klebold was harassing him, there were three other students, believed to be Trench Coat Mafia members, with suspect Klebold; however, they were not involved in harassing him.  

11k-report
p201-300
page 100
Patti Blair also recalled both suspects discussing how "people looked when they were dying."  Patti Blair added it was almost as though the suspects were "analyzing what they were seeing."  During the interview, Patti Blair repeatedly commented she could hear the suspects laughing at various times during this incident.

11k-report
p301-400
page 14
While Bollerud and Lapp were under the table, Bollerud recalls feeling four or five explosions.  The explosions shook the ground and she thought they were coming from the Commons area.  Bollerud saw particles falling from the ceiling above the bookshelves by table [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] as a result of the explosions.

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p301-400
page 17
I asked him if he recognized the individual and he said he only knew him as "Dylan".  Aaron told me by that time he was laying face down on the floor and there was a girl he didn't know laying on top of him.  Aaron told me that this individual whom he recognized as Dylan walked by him and said, "How about you big boy, you want to get shot today."  He said he looked to his left and saw a shotgun barrel about twelve inches away from his head.  He said the individual then said, "why don't you get up."  He said he did not respond and just laid still.  He said the individual then just walked on.  Aaron told me he then heard the individual that he recognized as Dylan say, "I don't like you fucking niggers."  He said about fifteen seconds later he heard a shot.  Aaron said he then heard Dylan say, "Tell me if that nigger's dead, I want to know if that nigger's dead."


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p301-400
page 20
When the shooter was at their location, Bree was pleading with the shooter, "Please don't kill me, don't kill me."  Cohn related it seemed like the shooters wanted people to beg for their life, then they would shoot them.

11k-report
p301-400
page 23
Peggy began by explaining that she knew Dylan Klebold because of past problems she had with him when she was the teacher in video production and the Computer Tech Lab.  Peggy had previously told IO that she knew Dylan because he had been hacking into the school computers.  She explained herself more fully by stating that Dylan would be doing unauthorized things on the computer, such as Fantasy Baseball, etc.  She stated that it was not only Dylan, it was Eric Harris and another student by the name of Zach Heckler, and possibly another student whom she couldn't recall his name.  The time frame in question was Dylan's junior year, the 1997-1998 school year.  IO asked her if she had information concerning what Dylan and his friends had been hacking into and she stated that she ahd heard rumors that they ahd used her password to hack into the system to get locker combinations, etc.  IO asked if this was ever reported to anyone and she stated that he believes it was, in fact, reported to at least school security, if not the police.  She recalls that most of the students in question were suspended for several days.  Peggy cautioned IO that a lot of the information concerning that incident was hearsay on her part and she had no first hand knowledge, other than Dylan doing things on the computer that the school wouldn't allow.


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p301-400
page 28
She had Eric as a student assistant in the lab in 1997/1998 school year.  She told me she thought Eric was a nice guy and enjoyed having him as a assistant until the end of the first semester last year.  During this period Eric and Dylan got into trouble for hacking in the computer and may have been able to get the combinations of the student lockers.  He was then restricted to his used in the computer lab and spent most of his time in the video lab.  After this occurred she checked into the space Eric and Dylan had available to them and never found they used their authorized 5 megs of space which all students have available to them.  She said they may have thought she had turned them in for their hacking but it was not her.  After they got into trouble with the computers she said Eric began wearing black.  When he came to school the beginning of this year 1998/1999 she thought he had changed he was quiet and did not speak with her.  He kept to himself and was alone more.

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p301-400
page 66
Holliday said that she knows both Dylan and Eric from school and describes them as nice guys sort of quiet guys.  She didn't think that she has seen Eric this school year.  Dylan is in her Government Economics class and they sometimes speak.  A girl that sits in from of Dylan by the name Val speaks to Dylan often.  Holliday then said that the girl that was asked in the library whether or not she believed in God, was Val.  Val is now known as Valerie Schnurr who was taken to Sweedish Medical Center and as of this report is still alive.  Holliday also said that Eric had been to her house for dinner along with some other friends approximately two years ago.
Holliday wanted so say that she thought all of the talk she has heard about these two guys wanting to kill jocks because jocks made fun of them was wrong.  She said that they came to kill anybody they felt like killing and they had fun doing it because they laughed the whole time.

11k-report
p401-500
page 44
Johnson stated that Klebold would follow Harris as Harris would move.  Klebold had a "smirk" on his face, and was not saying a lot.  The two suspects then walked towards the west end of the library.  Johnson remembers hearing one of the suspects say, "If you have a white hat on, get ready to die."

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p401-500
page 46
Johnson stated that both suspects would talk to each other continually.  She stated she then heard Harris mention that he had shot himself in his nose.  She heard him laughing.  She then heard Klebold ask him, "Why'd you do that?"  Johnson then saw that Harris was bleeding from his nose.  She did not recall the timing of this event.
At one point, Johnson stated, both suspects were standing west of table [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.].  The suspects were standing next to each other.  They had a conversation about a black student, later identified as Isaiah Shoals.  One suspect said "Is that nigger dead yet?"  Another comment was made to "shoot him again."  She stated she then heard a gunshot nearby.

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p401-500
page 96
He had heard that Eric and Dylan did a 17 minute tape in Video and set themselves up as main heroes killing jocks.  Eric's parents were furious with Mr. Long for suspending him for the locker incident...
Mr. Long thinks that Judy Kelly, an English teacher may have some knowledge of some writing of one of the kids.  (He had no other information about this.)

11k-report
p401-500
page 97
[BLANK] was suspended last school year (fall of 1997 to 1998) along with Eric and Dylan for breaking into the computer system and stealing locker combinations.  A note was put in a students locker.  The note was something to the effect of: If you bother my girlfriend again, I'm going to kill you.  Mr. Long was not sure who's locker the note was put in or who's girlfriend was being referred to.  Eric was pretty bitter about being suspended and didn't come back to assist in the lab.
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PostSubject: Re: highlights of the 11k   Tue Mar 29, 2016 8:05 pm

There is some juicy stuff in there but there's also hundreds of pages of useless and uninteresting information. Pretty much every person associated with Columbine High School was interviewed even if they didn't witness the attack or know the shooters or victims. It begins in with witnesses in the library and there is a lot of info in this section but it's graphic and heart-wrenching stuff. Mostly what stood out to me was how cruel they were to their victims (especially Dylan attacking and taunting a girl who talked to him regularly before the attack). As the documents go on there is also some good info from people who knew E&D but it's few and far between.
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PostSubject: Re: highlights of the 11k   Tue Mar 29, 2016 8:20 pm

Anybody got any rare videos and pictures or little known facts to share as well?
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PostSubject: Re: highlights of the 11k   Tue Mar 29, 2016 8:22 pm

In got the chills.
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PostSubject: Re: highlights of the 11k   Wed Mar 30, 2016 4:26 pm

Has anyone out there actually read all the 11k? I'd like to know...

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PostSubject: Re: highlights of the 11k   Wed Mar 30, 2016 4:28 pm

ThoughtBox wrote:
Has anyone out there actually read all the 11k? I'd like to know...

I am 59 pages into the 1001-1100 section. And I read all of the pages up until then. I hope it gets a bit more interesting. So far I am reading the "outside witnesses". It is a lot of "I thought I heard something but I saw nothing" over and over.
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PostSubject: pages 501-800   Wed Mar 30, 2016 7:31 pm

11k-report
p501-600
page 6
Kathy Park stated at some point later, she did see a suspect whom she identified as "Dylan" standing to the east of table [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] holding what appeared to be a "shotgun." Kathy Park stated at that point Dylan Klebold was attempting to pull Isaiah Shoels out from underneath table [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]. IO verified with Kathy Park she had previously seen Isaiah Shoels underneath that table. When asked for further clarification regarding the above observation, Kathy Park said she first heard Dylan Klebold state, "Get up nigger," after which the forenamed grabbed Isaiah Shoels by the arm and began to "pull." According to Kathy Park, Dylan Klebold gave up that effort quickly thus Isaiah Shoels was not pulled out from under the table. Kathy Park was unable to provide any additional information regarding that issue.


**********Bree Pasquale's statements are very graphic and very sad****************** *************************************************************************
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p501-600
page 27
When asked if she knew there was a second suspect in the library at this point, Bree Pasquale responded in the affirmative. Bree Pasquale explained moments after Dylan Klebold had passed between the two computer tables, he was followed by Eric Harris. When asked how far Eric Harris was behind Dylan Klebold when entering the library, Bree Pasquale stated, "He was just a little bit behind him." Bree Pasquale related it was due to the above situation (the suspects entering almost simultaneously) that she could not be exactly certain as to who made what statements.


11k-report
p501-600
page 28
Bree Pasquale explained just prior to Eric Harris going down on a knee, she heard Dylan Klebold announce, "the pigs are here." Bree Pasquale stated at that point, Eric Harris fired two to three shots out the west library window from the kneeling position. Bree Pasquale reported Dylan Klebold then walked behind Eric Harris and crouched down. IO confirmed Dylan Klebold would have then been directly north of table [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]. When asked if he too was down on one knee, Bree Pasquale stated she was uncertain, but knew that he had "got low so he wasn't a big target." Bree Pasquale pointed out a few seconds later, Dylan Klebold stood up and started firing in a westerly direction. Bree Pasquale stated she assumed Dylan Klebold was shooting out the west library windows.



11k-report
p501-600
page 29
Bree Pasquale stated once Eric Harris had shot the female student (referred to above), he then stood up and walked to the south side of the table, where Cassie Bernall was located. Bree Pasquale stated Cassie Bernall was seated underneath the table, facing east. Bree Pasquale added she distinctly recalled Cassie Bernall having her hands up covering the sides of her face.
Bree Pasquale continued with her explaination by stating once Eric Harris had walked around to the south side of the table, he then slapped the table twice with his left hand and stated, "peek-a-boo." Bree Pasquale indicated Eric Harris then bent down, holding the shotgun in his right hand. Pursuant to questioning, Bree Pasquale stated Eric Harris kept his left hand on top of the table. Bree Pasquale went on to state, once Eric Harris had bent down and pointed the shotgun under the table, he then fired the weapon once.
Bree Pasquale reported, once the gun had been fired, she saw Eric Harris pull back on the fore stalk and eject a red shell casing which then fell to the floor. Bree Pasquale stated Eric Harris was now in a crouched position, balancing on the balls of his feet. Bree Pasquale reported when she looked back at Cassie Bernall, she could see the victim had been shot in the right side of the head and there was "smoke" coming from the wound. Bree Pasquale went on to state she also recalled seeing blood flowing down on to the victim's right shoulder, adding she was wearing a "light green shirt."


11k-report
p501-600
page 30
Bree Pasquale stated, she then laid down on her right side and asked Aaron Cohn to hold her hand. Bree Pasquale stated she was very frightened at that time. Bree Pascale went on to describe Aaron Cohn lying on his left side as she was "practically on top on him." Bree Pasquale stated at that point, she had not taken her eyes off of Eric Harris, due to the suspect's close proximity.
Bree Pasquale explained as she continued to watch Eric Harris, the forenamed stood up briefly and then turned to the south (now facing Bree Pasquale). Bree Pasquale stated Eric HArris then took one to two steps in her direction and then bent down, resting the shotgun across his thighs. Bree Pasquale described Eric Harris' position as "squatting" balancing on the balls of his feet. Bree Pasquale next noticed blood began to flow from both nostrils of Eric Harris' nose. According to Bree Pasquale, Eric Harris then announced, "I hit myself in the face." Bree Pasquale explained Eric Harris was looking in her direction when he made that statement, but believed the comment was intended for Dylan Klebold. When asked if she knew what had struck Eric Harris in the face, Bree Pasquale responded in the negative.
Bree Pasquale next stated Eric Harris began pointing the shotgun at she and the others in her same area. Bree Pasquale clarified Eric Harris was only a few feet away when engaging in the above action. Specifically, Bree Pasquale described Eric Harris as "swinging it back and forth" (referring to the shotgun). Bree Pasquale stated at one point, Eric Harris stopped moving the shotgun and pointed it directly at her.


11k-report
p501-600
page 30
Bree Pasquale stated when she looked back in the direction of Eric Harris, the forenamed was now staring her straight in the face. Bree Pasquale recalled Eric Harris asking her more than once if she "wanted to die." Bree Pasquale stated she repeatedly responded, "no." Bree Pasquale stated after responding no for the last time, she recalled Eric Harris laughing and stating, "everyone's going to die." Bree Pasquale then heard Dylan Klebold state to Eric Harris, "shoot her." According to Bree Pasquale, Eric Harris replied, "no, we're gonna' blow up the school anyway." Bree Pasquale indicated Eric Harris was still pointing the shotgun at her when making that statement.


11k-report
p501-600
page 31
According to Bree Pasquale, during that interaction, Eric Harris appeared to become distracted, which caused him to turn away to the east. Bree Pasquale stated it was at that point she began to hear Isaiah Shoels saying something about "mom" and "home." Bree Pasquale stated she could not recall anymore specifics in terms of what Isaiah Shoels was saying.
Bree Pasquale told IO moments after Eric Harris had looked off to the east, and she had heard Isaiah Shoels make the above comments, Eric Harris then stated, "Oh look, it's a nigger." Bree Pasquale then recalled Eric Harris standing up and walking over to the west side of table [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]. Bree Pasquale then heard Isaiah Shoels state, "nah, nah." Bree Pasquale related Eric Harris then pointed the shotgun underneath table [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] and fired it once. According to Bree Pasquale, she then saw Isaiah Shoels "slumped over" on to another male student.


11k-report
p501-600
page 34
When asked what she recalled occurring at that point, Bree Pasquale stated she remembered trying to assist Jenna Park, who had a "leg wound." Bree Pasquale stated, "we" tied a jacked around the victim's leg wound in an effort to control the bleeding. Bree Pasquale related she believed Jenna Park indicated she had also been shot in the back, however, that information was not verified. Bree Pasquale did recall asking the forenamed about "prom" in an effort to keep the victim alert.
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p501-600
page 56
Savage advised he used to see Dylan get teased for the way he dressed.
Savage stated Dylan and Eric were not members at the time he was with TCM. Savage knew Dylan from the stage crew. They worked together.


11k-report
p501-600
page 56
Then Savage seen Dylan walking through the library. Eric came into the library a little later. Eric was looking under the tables and came over to the table where Savage was hiding. Eric pointed a gun at Savage and asked who was under the table. Savage identified himself by saying, "It's me John." Dylan asked, "John Savage?" and Savage replied, "Yeah." Dylan came over to the table and said, "Hi." Savage looked up and said, "Hi, Dylan, what are you doing?" Dylan shrugged and said, "Killing people." Savage asked, "Are you going to kill me?" Dylan stated, "No, dude run. Just get out of here." So Savage ran out of the library, down the hall, down the stairs and outside.


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p501-600
page 60
IO subsequently asked John Savage if he knew either of the suspects and if so, to explain that relationship. John Savage responded in the affirmative, indicating his relationship with both Dylan Klebold and Eric Harris stemmed from contacts at school. John Savage clarified he did not consider himself to be a friend of either Dylan Klebold or Eric Harris and classified his relationship with both those people as "acquaintances."
When asked to describe his prior interaction with Eric Harris, John Savage stated he presently had a third hour philosophy class with Eric Harris and believed he had other classes with the forenamed in past years. John Savage stated there were also occasions which he referred to as "a couple times a week" where he would see Eric Harris in the "commons" (seated with others at tables near the faculty lounge) before school started. John Savage clarified the aforementioned situation primarily pertained to this school year. John Savage did indicate if he would see Eric Harris, it would not be unusual for them to exchange greetings.

11k-report
p501-600
page 61
John Savage was next asked to describe his relationship with Dylan Klebold. John Savage explained over the past two school years, he has gotten to know Dylan Klebold through various theater productions. John Savage indicated he is somewhat active in the theater at Columbine High School as was Dylan Klebold. John Savage stated his primary contacts with Dylan Klebold would occur when preparing for a theater production. John Savage explained in several of the theater programs put on by columbine High School, he either acted or worked on the "stage crew". John Savage related Dylan Klebold usually "worked the soundboard for the plays," thus the two had contact during those times. John Savage stated it was not uncommon in between scenes or when he was not actually performing to go up and sit with Dylan Klebold while he worked the soundboard. John Savage again indicated he did not recall having any in depth conversations with Dylan Klebold when socializing in the manner indicated above. John Savage did point out he had a second hour class with Dylan Klebold which he identified as calculus.

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p501-600
page 61
John Savage did explain he was aware both Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold were into the music group "Ramstein", whom he identified as a "German band." John Savage then recalled at various times hearing both Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold speaking German but pointed out they were only reciting lyrics or phrases from the music produced by Ramstein. John Savage stated to his knowledge, neither of the forenamed were capable of speaking German. IO subsequently clarified with John Savage that his interactions with Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold occurred at school. John Savage maintained he had never socialized with either of the forenamed when outside of school.

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p501-600
page 62
John Savage then pointed out a fellow student by the name of "Brooks Brown" is also in that same class. John Savage reported he sits near Brooks Brown during philosophy class. When asked to describe his relationship with the forenamed, John Savage stated they were "pretty good friends," adding they knew each other through "theater." When asked if he had spoken with Brooks Brown since this incident, John Savage responded in the negative. John Savage explained the only reason he mentioned Brooks Brown was due to the fact the forenamed had been in the news, after which he pointed out it was somewhat well known that the forenamed embellishes his stories.

11k-report
p501-600
page 64
John Savage reported a short time later, he did begin to hear "screaming" which appeared to be coming from the "commons." John Savage confirmed it was not an isolated scream he heard but rather a "group of people." John Savage told IO it was at that point he believed others in the library had become "more alert, like a prairie dog." John Savage clarified the meaning of the term "prairie dog" by stating he saw others in the library lift up their heads and begin looking around.


11k-report
p501-600
page 65
John Savage told IO after getting underneath table [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] (facing north) he then began to hear more "banging noises" which seemed to be "getting louder." John Savage stated at one point he heard what he described as a "big explosion" which ultimately "shook the floor." John Savage was unable to be specific in terms of the location of the explosion but speculated it was possibly in the commons area due to the fact it shook the floor.

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p501-600
page 65
John Savage stated as the gunshots became very loud (directly outside the east library doors), he then observed Dylan Klebold enter the library and proceed in a westerly direction. When asked to describe Dylan Klebold, John Savage stated the forenamed was wearing a black ball cap (backwards) with a long black trench coat. John Savage stated he further observed Dylan Klebold wearing some type of belt or "band" around his waist which was carrying shotgun shells. John Savage further described Dylan Klebold as wearing a black t-shirt, "black cargo pants" and black combat style boots. John Savage pointed out the pants were tucked into the combat boots.

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p501-600
page 70
John Savage added it was his opinion Eric Harris was looking under "all the tables." John Savage stated based on the above observation, he became very frightened Eric Harris would possibly discover where he was hiding.

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p501-600
page 70
John Savage indicated at that point Eric Harris was standing close enough that he could "reach out and touch" him. John Savage reported Eric Harris next "squatted down and points that carbine right at me." John Savage stated instinctually he leaned forward trying to avoid having the weapon pointing directly at him. John Savage stated as he leaned forward, Eric Harris repositioned the carbine rifle so it again was pointing in his direction. John Savage stated he subsequently leaned back, again to avoid having the weapon pointed directly at him. John Savage stated Eric Harris then stood up and stated, "Who is under this table, identify yourself." John Savage stated he responded, "It's John." After respondidng with his first name, John Savage related he then heard a voice he leter identified as Dylan Klebold's coming from a southwesterly direction. John Savage explained he heard Dylan Klebold ask, "John Savage?" John Savage stated he responded, "Yeah."


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p501-600
page 70
John Savage stated after Dylan Klebold had walked up to the west side of table [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.], he (John Savage) then looked up and "made eye contact with Dylan." John Savage stated after making contact with the forenamed, he said, "Hi Dylan, what are you doing?" John Savage related Dylan Klebold responded by shrugging his shoulders and replying, "Oh, just killing people." John Savage then asked Dylan Klebold, "Are you going to kill me?" According to John Savage, Dylan Klebold responded, "No dude, just get out of here, just run." John Savage stated Dylan Klebold may have told him to "run" more than once as if to indicate he should hurry.

11k-report
p601-700
page 15
Aaron Welsh went on to explain as he continued to watch Eric Harris, the forenamed knelt down on one knee and pointed the pump shotgun under the south computer desk. aaron Welsh stated Eric Harris then began firing the weapon at individuals who were positioned under the computer desk. Aaron Welsh stated he knew Eric Harris fired more than once, because each time after Eric Harris fired, he would get up and move to the next location....
Pursuant to questioning, Aaron Welsh stated it appeared to him as though Eric Harris would fie the weaon and then move over to the next position (staying on a single knee) and then fire the weapon again.
Aaron Welsh stated as this was occurring, he began to hear the suspects laughing and "whooping it up." Aaron Welsh stated it was very obvious that the suspects were enjoying what they were doing. Aaron Welsh went on to state, it was at this time that Eric Harris also moved south in the library after which he lost sight of that individual.


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p601-700
page 56
Abodaca knew Klebold only by sight and indicated that during lunch, he normally sat in his BMW in the parking lot on the south side of the cafeteria.

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p601-700
page 80
Baker stated that when he walked out of the school, Harris momentarily looked up at him and then looked back down. Harris was putting on a pair of black bicycle gloves which did not have fingertips. Baker saw Harris put a small grayish colored duffle bag on the grass. He stated that the bag appeared heavy and when it hit the ground it had a metal sound. Harris placed the grayish bag by his feet and slightly behind him. Baker stated there was no one around when he walked out of the school except for Harris. He never saw Klebold. Baker stated that before he exited the building he saw a teacher he believed to be Christy Nelson doing hall monitor duty just inside the double glass doors.

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p601-700
page 85
Beard said that he knew Klebold from school, was in bowling class with Harris and Klebold, and that Klebold and he participated in various fantasy sports leagues together. Beard said that on 04-19-99 he telephoned Klebold, attempting to arrange a trade of players in their fantasy baseball league. Klebold said, "I don't know. I'll think about it and let you know tomorrow." Beard described the conversation as normal. Beard did not sense that anything was troubling Klebold. Beard also said that he would communicate with Klebold about fantasy sports via the internet. Beard explained that the internet was not a good way to communicate with Klebold, as Klebold never checked his e-mail.

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p701-800
page 3
Continuing with Kim Blair's explanation, the forenamed stated she observed the suspects look at each other and "nod." Kim Blair explained at the time she observed the above behavior she thought to herself it was somewhat "strange." Kim Blair related after seeing the suspects nod to each other it was then she realized they were "armed."
Kim Blair explained she next observed the taller of the two suspects fire several rapid rounds in an easterly direction (towards the building.) Kim Blair stated she could not be certain what the first suspect was shooting at when firing in the manner indicated above.

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Bonewell said that when he started at Black Jack Pizza, Eric Harris and Chris Morris already were employed there. Dylan Klebold started later but had worked there previously. Bonewell worked with Harris, Klebold, Morris and Dykeman frequently. While Bonewell only worked Friday and Saturday evenings, he said that Harris, Klebold and Morris worked much more often. He characterized [blank] as close friends and associates and said that they were together more often than not. He believes that besides work and school, they would frequently "party" together.

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Bonewell described Klebold's car as a black Mercedes and Harris' as a gray Honda. He said that Harris was known as "Reb" and that [Blank]. Bonewell described a white female with long blonde hair who came to the Black Jack Pizza several times to talk to Harris, Klebold [blank]. Bonewell's father showed him a newspaper photo of Robyn Anderson and Bonewell identified her as the female he had just described.


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Bonewell said that the only mention he had ever heard from Harris, Klebold [blank] of bombs was several months ago when [blank] described how to make a "dry ice bomb." He said that Harris, Klebold [blank] often mentioned hating "jocks" but that they never identified anyone by name. He also said that the three frequently talked about playing on-line computer games and that Klebold was particularly computer adept. Bonewell said that a friend of his, Chris Tobaldo, was also friends with Klebold and Zack Heckler and that those three shared information about programming computers using the "Linux" operating system.
Art Bonewell, Aaron's father, said that he had been at the "Zone" bar on South Kipling Parkway on the evening of April 24, 1999. Several people at the bar told him that on the night of April 22, 1999, Bob Kirgis, a former manager at the Black Jack Pizza, had been there. Kirgis appeared drunk and had been talking about Eric Harris having shown him a pipe bomb.


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Josh was asked about his knowledge of Dylan and he stated he had Gym class with Dylan last semester in Period 1, 7:30 A.M. to 8:20 A.M. Josh stated everybody made fun of Dylan in class. They even called him "Stretch" because he was so tall. Josh stated Dylan would always wear black. Although in gym class everyone would wear the school gym uniform of blue shirt and gray shorts.
Josh stated Dylan was uncoordinated and wasn't very good at sports. Josh stated the class was about 50 students from all grades.


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Cowles advised Investigator Eaton that he was acquainted with Dylan Klebold from their freshmen and sophomore year in high school. He advised that Klebold had had a strong interest in baseball just as Cowles did. Cowles advised he and Klebold often talked about baseball while at school. Cowles advised however that during their junior and senior years he ahd very little contact with Klebold as each of their interests had changed.
Cowles advised Investigator Eaton he was not acquainted with Eric Harris. He advised he was aware of who Eric Harris was and knew Eric Harris by face but did not personally know him.


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Danford said that she had met Dylan Klebold in her Freshman year, and that she had met him through Kristen Febold. She said that they usually met him out in the parking lot by his car. She described Dylan Klebold as a good kid, and she didn't know of him having any major problems. She said their conversation never was really involved. Their conversations usually revolved around how their days were going. She knew that Dylan Klebold was into the rock group Ram Stein, and that's all he seemed to talk about. He would ask if they'd heard their new CD or the new album or new songs. She said she never had any conversations about him being picked on, but she knew that the jocks had been giving him trouble. She said that on one occasion he spoke about how the jocks were giving him trouble but he didn't elaborate any further. She said that she had heard from Klebold that he was friends with Eric Harris and that in one conversation she remembers Klebold telling her that Eric Harris' life revolved around guns and that was all he ever talked about.


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I asked Doty if he knew anything about the Trench Coat Mafia, and he stated he met Eric Harris in 8th grade, and at that time Harris told him he did not like him (Doty).


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He stated when he returned at about 1105 or 1110 hours, while walking on Pierce Street, Brooks Brown was walking southbound and said hello to him. I asked him if he could identify any of the clothing on Brooks Brown, and he stated he could not, and that he was by himself. He informed me that Brooks Brown looked scared, and his complexion was pale.


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She advised that as she and Roberts passed by he looked up. Doyle advised Investigator Eaton that she smiled at both Harris and Klebold and that Harris nodded back to her. She advised that Klebold did not acknowledge her presence. Doyle advised that after smiling at Harris and Klebold she and Roberts continued past them and walked down the stairs into the parking lot area. Doyle did advise Investigator Eaton that one thing she recalled as she walked by the two males and looked downward was some type of a medallion possibly tied on a shoe lace of Klebold's shoe or boot.


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She said she did not know him well but did have him in a bowling class and Government Economics. She said she knew Dylan also and did not think they would be capable of doing something like this. She said Dylan and Eric were teased because they wore black trench coats, but the teasing was very minor. She said before they began wearing the trench coats they were not teased at all. She said last year Eric was looked up to because he was smart. This year he started wearing the black clothes boots and the coat and became a loner.


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He said as he pulled up close to the commons he saw people running out the doors, which he described as a "wave" of people. He said he turned his car around, when Jimmy yelled to get out of there, something was wrong. He said as he circled the parking lot to exit, several people had jumped into his car. One of those individuals was Matt Oliver. Two of the individuals he did not know. He said they then drove out of the parking lot and went to Nick Zepancark's house. From there they went to the mall and watched tv to see what was going on.
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PostSubject: Re: highlights of the 11k   Wed Mar 30, 2016 7:58 pm

Interesting... Quite a bit of evidence of Dylan being picked on that I'd never seen before.
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PostSubject: Re: highlights of the 11k   Thu Mar 31, 2016 1:30 am

Awesome, keep em coming!
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PostSubject: Re: highlights of the 11k   Thu Mar 31, 2016 11:07 am

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Has anyone out there actually read all the 11k? I'd like to know...

Of course, I've read it twice. It doesn't take that long.
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PostSubject: Re: highlights of the 11k   Thu Mar 31, 2016 11:08 am

On the old Columbine forums I think almost everyone had read it. Now most people use tumblr as their source.
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PostSubject: Re: highlights of the 11k   Thu Mar 31, 2016 5:21 pm

lasttrain wrote:
ThoughtBox wrote:
Has anyone out there actually read all the 11k? I'd like to know...

Of course, I've read it twice.  It doesn't take that long.

That seems like a lot of pages to read. I wish I had that much time, but I don't think I would learn anything more than what I already can by participating in this excellent forum. Laughing

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PostSubject: Re: highlights of the 11k   Thu Mar 31, 2016 7:02 pm

ThoughtBox wrote:
lasttrain wrote:
ThoughtBox wrote:
Has anyone out there actually read all the 11k? I'd like to know...

Of course, I've read it twice.  It doesn't take that long.

That seems like a lot of pages to read. I wish I had that much time, but I don't think I would learn anything more than what I already can by participating in this excellent forum. Laughing

A lot of the pages are simply legal boilerplate. Like a whole page noting what someone's address was. Believe me it will not take you that long.
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PostSubject: pages 801-1000   Fri Apr 01, 2016 8:46 am

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Golden said about 30 minutes after they left the school parking lot they were listening to the news and heard the descriptions of the two shooters. She remembers Anderson saying that the description of one of them sounded like Dylan Klebold. Golden is unsure whether Anderson specifically mentioned Eric Harris at that time, but Golden remembered that Anderson said, "I hope they didn't do something stupid."

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Stefanie stated that earlier in the school year, Eric Harris, Dylan Klebold, and Brooks Brown had their differences. She knew this after having observed in several verbal altercations in the smokers pit.
However, after the Christmas vacation, it appeared as if Brown, Klebold and Harris had settled their differences, and were then friends.


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Stefanie said that she had talked to Dylan Klebold and Eric Harris while they were all in the "smoker's pit." Stefanie told me that she had smoked marijuana with Dylan Klebold and Eric Harris while they were in the "smoker's pit." She said this was in 1998, and said she has heard Dylan Klebold and Eric Harris talk about how they hated their parents. Stefanie recalled that either Dylan Klebold or Eric Harris (unknown which one) had been overheard saying at one time, that their parents had taken his car away from him for getting in trouble and either Dylan Klebold or Eric Harris made a comment something to the effect of, "They will get theirs."


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She also said that she had not observed the jocks pick on or harass the Trench Coat Mafia students or their associates. Stefanie said she had, however, seen the Trench Coat Mafia students pick on the jocks and cause trouble with them. She said that for a time, she knew Dylan Klebold, Eric Harris and Brooks Brown did not get along with each other, however, she did not know why. She said she had seen them hide when they saw each other approaching their location while at Columbine High School, because they did not want to see each other. She said she believes they have since worked out their differences.


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I asked her if she knew anybody else associated with the "Trench Coat Mafia" and she stated Robyn Anderson is also in her calculous class with Klebold. She stated that during the last few months, she noticed that Anderson had been flirting with Klebold, but knew that she was not his girlfriend.




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Tyler said that Ryan Selchert told him that he (Ryan) saw Eric Harris on Monday and that Eric was sitting on a chair at the front entrance of CHS with a piece of paper and a pencil. Ryan told Tyler that he (Ryan) said, "What are you doing?" and Eric said, "Just planning for tomorrow."


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Tyler said that he is not friends with Eric and Dylan, and that he just knows them from school and the video class. He said that Eric and Dylan's movies were weird. They were Star Ship Troopers and Preditor where people had automatic weapons and were lining people up and shooting them.

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Jenkins stated that he thought this was a prank. Jenkins advised that Klebold was laughing and Harris had a smile on his face.
Sometime during this period students began to run and hide behind vehicles located in the parking lot. Jenkins realized this was not a joke and backed up to leave the parking lot. When Jenkins was backing up he saw a male on the ground at the bottom of the stairs. Jenkins did not know the male or know if he was wounded.
Jenkins attempted to exit the parking lot but was forced to stop due to students running in front of him. He stated that when he stopped a large number of students jumped into the bed of his truck. From there Jenkins left the parking lot and went home to call his father. Sometime on his way home the students in the back of his truck jumped out.

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Kayla said that she knew Dylan Klebold because her friend, Devon Adams had tried to set her up with him. Kayla said that she didn't want to go out with him. She said she also knew Eric Harris. Kayla said she used to pick up attendance at 8:30am in the Tech Lab, and Eric Harris was always in there and seemed to follow her out of the room. She did not recall him saying anything to her.
Kayla said that Zach Heckler and her cousin, Kevin Starkey, didn't get along. She did recall an incident last year, when a history book was stolen from Starkey's locker and he had to pay for it. Kayla said she thought Starkey's ex-girlfriend, Devon Adams had given the locker combination to Heckler, and that Heckler stole the book. She thought that Adams and Heckler were boyfriend, girlfriend. She said that Heckler got suspended over the incident.


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Kari advised that she has spoken to Klebold before in school and he had jump started her car once for her. She advised that Dylan seemed very normal during her contact with him.

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He played various computer games with Klebold from time to time. The games they played were similiar to "Doom." They used computer modems to play these games and this is why his number was in his possession.
Josh added he had a class with Klebold and last talked to him the Friday prior to the incident. The class was creative writing. He knew Harris also, but didn't talk much to him. Harris was in the same creative writing class, he sat behind him often. Josh stated he thought Klebold was a nice guy.


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Chad has known Dylan Klebold since grade school, about 10 years. Chad speaks to Dylan and Eric Harris on a daily basis and is friends with them. Chad has two classes with Dylan. Chad states Dylan and Eric are always friendly to him. Chad has never heard either Dylan or Eric talk about any kind of violence or about any of their philosophies. Chad stated that Dylan wears a trench coat once in a while, but usually wears a T-shirt and jeans. Chad runs the fantasy baseball and football leagues that Dylan and Eric are heavily involved in. When Chad talks to Dylan it is usually about baseball. Chad has not been at Dylan's house since 6th grade. Chad does not associate with Dylan or Eric outside of school. Dylan was at Chad's house one month ago, working on a school project.
Chad feels that Dylan and Eric were the most normal of the Trench Coat Group.


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Chad stated that about one year ago, when parking spaces were being assigned for their senior year, Dylan and Eric arrived at the school at about 3:30 am in order to get spaces close to the school.
Chad worked with Eric for about one month almost a year ago at Tortilla Wraps at Southwest Plaza.


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Chad stated that Dylan and Eric usually sit alone in the cafeteria.
Chad drove to Wyoming last summer with [BLANK] to buy fireworks. Klebold gave Chad an order for about $80 worth of fireworks.
Chad provided Det. Woodward with a copy of a page from his junior yearbook that both Dylan and Eric signed. Part of Eric's writing appears to be in German.


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The male was very angered. Everyone was pretty much cleared out and he was screaming and yelling "I hate you." Not at anyone in particular, he was just yelling it.


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Jeffrey stated that he had known Dylan since he was 10 or 12 years old and had played with him on a little league baseball team. Dylan was in Jeff's 2nd hour Calculus class this semester as well as last semester and Jeff bowled with both Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold in the school bowling class. Jeff stated that Eric would throw the ball out from his chest, not bowl like normal, and thought it was an attempt to draw attention to himself. He stated that when Eric got a strike that he would give a Hiel Hitler salute every time. Jeff also saw Chris Morris do the Hiel Hitler salute a couple of times.
Jeffrey reported that he had noticed a behavioral change in Dylan the prior several weeks before the incident. He stated that Dylan was normally a very good student but had been falling asleep in the 2nd period class each day. The teacher kept threatening to throw him out of class if he fell asleep again but never did. And there were times in that several weeks that Dylan appeared unusually hyper and full of energy.



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Marton said that Dep Gardner fired about 4 times at the gunman while on the west side of the school. Marton said the gunman started having problems with his gun after Dep Gardner fired at him. Marton said the gunman then returned back in the west enterance, working on his gun. Marton said the gunman then started shooting again, hitting the vehicle they were using for cover. Marton said the gunman fired from between the west doors. Marton said the gunman went back inside and gunfire started from library.
Marton said the gunman's fire stopped at about 1215 hrs.


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Marton stated approximately five seconds later, Peter Horvath, called them via the radio, and advised Deputy Gardner and Marton that there has been an explosion. Marton stated at this time they were driving in front of the school entering the south parking area. Marton then advised over the JCSO radio, Dispatch advised that a female student was down in the student parking lot. Marton advised the dispatcher continued to state that shots were being fired. Marton stated he noticed students running away from the commons area. Marton stated they went into the Senior parking lot at approximately 1121 hours, and heard shots. Marton stated he observed a cloud of smoke in the southwest corner of the parking lot. Marton also stated that he could hear the gunfire coming from the area of the Library in their direction.


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Marton stated that it was quiet for a while and they could hear no gunfire. Marton stated one to two minutes later, he heard what he described as a bomb going off in the cafeteria. Marton stated the explosion was loud, and the ground shook. Marton stated he could observe a small fire in the cafeteria, describing it 8' by 10'. Marton stated he also heard explosions in the distance, believing they were coming from the west side interior of the school.

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PostSubject: Re: highlights of the 11k   Fri Apr 01, 2016 9:05 am


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Stefanie said that she had talked to Dylan Klebold and Eric Harris while they were all in the "smoker's pit." Stefanie told me that she had smoked marijuana with Dylan Klebold and Eric Harris while they were in the "smoker's pit." She said this was in 1998, and said she has heard Dylan Klebold and Eric Harris talk about how they hated their parents. Stefanie recalled that either Dylan Klebold or Eric Harris (unknown which one) had been overheard saying at one time, that their parents had taken his car away from him for getting in trouble and either Dylan Klebold or Eric Harris made a comment something to the effect of, "They will get theirs
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Does anyone know which one this was? I'd never heard either of them getting their car removed before. I've also never heard them talk so bad about their parents.
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PostSubject: Re: highlights of the 11k   Fri Apr 01, 2016 9:31 am

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Stefanie said that she had talked to Dylan Klebold and Eric Harris while they were all in the "smoker's pit." Stefanie told me that she had smoked marijuana with Dylan Klebold and Eric Harris while they were in the "smoker's pit." She said this was in 1998, and said she has heard Dylan Klebold and Eric Harris talk about how they hated their parents. Stefanie recalled that either Dylan Klebold or Eric Harris (unknown which one) had been overheard saying at one time, that their parents had taken his car away from him for getting in trouble and either Dylan Klebold or Eric Harris made a comment something to the effect of, "They will get theirs
"

Does anyone know which one this was? I'd never heard either of them getting their car removed before. I've also never heard them talk so bad about their parents.

Gonna take a stab in the dark and say it was Eric. I have nothing concrete to back it up but I believe I read somewhere that Eric's parents took away his car after the 30 incident.
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PostSubject: Re: highlights of the 11k   Fri Apr 01, 2016 10:55 am

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Stefanie said that she had talked to Dylan Klebold and Eric Harris while they were all in the "smoker's pit." Stefanie told me that she had smoked marijuana with Dylan Klebold and Eric Harris while they were in the "smoker's pit." She said this was in 1998, and said she has heard Dylan Klebold and Eric Harris talk about how they hated their parents. Stefanie recalled that either Dylan Klebold or Eric Harris (unknown which one) had been overheard saying at one time, that their parents had taken his car away from him for getting in trouble and either Dylan Klebold or Eric Harris made a comment something to the effect of, "They will get theirs
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Does anyone know which one this was? I'd never heard either of them getting their car removed before. I've also never heard them talk so bad about their parents.


Good stuff! Keep em coming! This stuff is pretty interesting!
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PostSubject: Re: highlights of the 11k   Fri Apr 01, 2016 1:52 pm

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Stefanie said that she had talked to Dylan Klebold and Eric Harris while they were all in the "smoker's pit." Stefanie told me that she had smoked marijuana with Dylan Klebold and Eric Harris while they were in the "smoker's pit." She said this was in 1998, and said she has heard Dylan Klebold and Eric Harris talk about how they hated their parents. Stefanie recalled that either Dylan Klebold or Eric Harris (unknown which one) had been overheard saying at one time, that their parents had taken his car away from him for getting in trouble and either Dylan Klebold or Eric Harris made a comment something to the effect of, "They will get theirs
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Does anyone know which one this was? I'd never heard either of them getting their car removed before. I've also never heard them talk so bad about their parents.

Gonna take a stab in the dark and say it was Eric.  I have nothing concrete to back it up but I believe I read somewhere that Eric's parents took away his car after the 30 incident.  
I think I recall Sue saying in one of the interview's that they had taken Dylan's car away from him for getting in trouble before.

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PostSubject: Re: highlights of the 11k   Fri Apr 01, 2016 2:21 pm

Jenn wrote:
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Stefanie said that she had talked to Dylan Klebold and Eric Harris while they were all in the "smoker's pit." Stefanie told me that she had smoked marijuana with Dylan Klebold and Eric Harris while they were in the "smoker's pit." She said this was in 1998, and said she has heard Dylan Klebold and Eric Harris talk about how they hated their parents. Stefanie recalled that either Dylan Klebold or Eric Harris (unknown which one) had been overheard saying at one time, that their parents had taken his car away from him for getting in trouble and either Dylan Klebold or Eric Harris made a comment something to the effect of, "They will get theirs
"

Does anyone know which one this was? I'd never heard either of them getting their car removed before. I've also never heard them talk so bad about their parents.

Gonna take a stab in the dark and say it was Eric.  I have nothing concrete to back it up but I believe I read somewhere that Eric's parents took away his car after the 30 incident.  
I think I recall Sue saying in one of the interview's that they had taken Dylan's car away from him for getting in trouble before.

I guess I got it screwed up then! Not surprising to me! lol!
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PostSubject: Re: highlights of the 11k   Fri Apr 01, 2016 5:00 pm

thanks for new information, i didn´t know that the klebolds had taken dylans car away.

i read the 11 k but sometimes i forget things i read.
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Kristi said during her Freshman year at Columbine High School, she had Nate Dykeman in her gym weight lifting class.  She described his as "dorky", and said he would wear sports team t-shirts to school.

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He was walking next to Daniel Rohrbough, and saw two white males at the top of the stairs, one of whom was holding what he thought was a water/squirt gun.  Opfer did not recognize either of these individuals.
Both were wearing all black, with black trenchcoats.  One was about 6'4" tall and was wearing a backwards black hat with a "B" emblem on it.  He had no weapon visible.  The other person was about 5'8" tall and had a large pistol in his hands...
The shorter person began firing the pistol down the stairs.  Opfer turned to speak to Rohrbough, who then looked at him strangely and fell down screaming.  Opfer realized Rohrbough had been shot, so he ran down the stairs and into the southwest entrance to the cafeteria.  Inside, he told a janitor and other students to get out because someone was shooting at other students.

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Keith Parkison said although he was not an associate of the Trench Coat Mafia students, he used to talk to some of them at the school.  Keith Parkison said that he did not get along with Dylan Klebold and in fact, said they did not like each other.  Keith Parkison said they had nearly gotten into physical fights between each other in the past.  Keith Parkison said this disliking between them started in a team sports class that he had with Dylan Klebold at Columbine High School.  Keith Parkison said that Dylan Klebold picked on him, and finally this harassment nearly caused the fight.  Keith Parkison said he never saw anybody pick on Dylan Klebold, however, he did see Dylan Klebold pick on other people.
Keith Parkison said he used to talk to Eric Harris, however, had not talked to him since approximately January of 1999.  Keith Parkison said he quit talking to Eric Harris and the other Trench Coat Mafia students in January of 1999, because Eric Harris and the other Trench Coat Mafia students began picking on people and harassing them.  Keith Parkison said that when this started, he stayed away from them.
Keith Parkison said that Dylan Klebold and Eric Harris were always together.

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Paukune stated, she was acquainted with both Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold.  She met them last year, through a mutual friend, Kelly Schwab, who moved away to California a year ago.  She explained that Kelly Schwab used to hang around with the Trench Coat Mafia and suggested they join.  Paukune stated she did not want to join, due to the belief that the members were all bi-sexual, including Harris and Klebold.  Paukune stated, once her friend moved she had very little to do with the individuals in the TCM.  She did talk with Harris on occasion, just casual conversation, and described him as being very nice.  She stated Klebold did not seem to like her and was mean and sarcastic, therefore she tried to avoid him as much as possible.

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Place was familiar with Eric Harris from one of his classes and also when he served as Dean of Students.  Harris was in Place's first-semester Team Sports class.  Harris was a fair athlete and did well in all the activities in the class.  Place did have a problem with him "picking" on freshmen, as a lot of the seniors did.  For the two-year period, from approximately 1996 to 1997, Place served as Dean of Students.  During that time he did have one opportunity to deal with Harris.  Place could not recall the specifics of a snowball incident involving Harris and Brooks Brown.  The incident was resolved through "conflict resolution", and Place does not recall the specifics of any action.

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Joseph had seen jocks pick on Harris and Klebold before, in the school halls.  Joseph said that he would hang out with Klebold and Harris at school once in a while, usually in the morning and mostly during 1st semester.  When I asked him what he meant by hang out, he said "I'd sit with them and talk."
Joseph reported that the Trench Coat Mafia was a joke and said that the name came from the jocks, they were making fun of them.
Joseph reported that he had no prior knowledge of the shooting and never talked to either Harris or Klebold about this.
Joseph reported that "Jeffco" was wasting their time by investigating a third shooter/gunman.  He said "knowing these two guys they were the only ones who knew, they were pushed over the edge."

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Roberts advised Investigator Eaton that both she and Doyle walked by Harris and Klebold and said hi and smiled.  She advised that both males nodded back to her and Doyle.  Roberts advised Investigator Eaton that she observed both males moving their hands around at belt level but did not pay attention to what they were doing and did not observe anything more specific than that.

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Janine Roberts then advised Investigator Eaton that it was at this point during the cell phone conversation that she told a person that she was speaking with that the suspects were Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold.  It is believed that this is how the names of the suspects became available to the news as quickly as it did.

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Have you seen them before?
Yes, in school, they are seniors, one carved his arm with a razor.

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Schott told me that she and Harris were in the same World History class during her junior year (last year).  She said that they talked about class projects and that sort of thing, and that he was extremely nice to her.  She said that shortly after school let out they spoke a couple times, but that was the extent of their contact.  She said they never dated or went out socially.

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Schuster advised that Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold were friends of Anderson's.  Schuster had known Harris and Klebold since the first of this year.  Schuster and Anderson would visit Harris and Klebold during lunch at Blackjack Pizza.  Schuster advised that Klebold was with their group during prom.

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Schuster described Anderson's behavior before and during the incident as "weird".  Schuster advised that Anderson was acting "strict" when that was not at all in her character.

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Schuster advised that Anderson and "very close" to Harris and Klebold.  Schuster stated that Anderson wanted to be Klebold's girlfriend.  When Schuster learned that Harris and Klebold had committed the shooting at Columbine she was very surprised Klebold was involved.  Schuster stated that she thought Chris Morris would be with Harris, not Klebold.  Schuster stated that she could see Harris doing something like this because he was much more angry.

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Monica did go to the Prom and was with the group including Klebold and his girlfriend.  Then once at the after prom she met up with Harris and they spent some time together just goofing around going to the various sites and playing the various games.  Monica did not notice Harris acting strange nor having any strange comment or conversation.  She felt he was acting normal.

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They ate their lunches as the events continued police were in and around the car, they were told to remain in the vehicle and to stay down.  While in the vehicle Robyn was eating her lunch very calmly and once finished she was looking for a "Blizzard" which was purchased.  She was quickly looking for the items and not really concerned about what was happening in the school.  She could see persons on the ground on the hill near the cafeteria.  She described one of the persons was trying to pull their self up and then fall over.  This person she knew had been injured.  One other farther up the hill was not moving at all just lying there.

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It took several hours before they were told to exit the car, and then directed to the soccer fields with their hands on their heads.  Monica described one event which she felt was strange.  When Robyn left the car, she was the last to leave, she took the time to take her purse and lock the car up.  She was not moving as fast as others and was very calm.  

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Monica was able to call her mother and she arrived and took the three home.  As they were going home Monica's mother commented the news had identified Eric Marris (she was not sure of the last name).  Robyn when she overheard this corrected the name to Eric Harris.  Robyn at this time showed some emotion reference the events.
As they continued to travel home, Monica's father made a comment to Robyn "How does it feel to go to Prom with a killer."  Robyn didn't react much to the statement.  After the incident Monica had not talked to Robyn for about 3 to 4 days.  She was advised by a person at the church she attends that she should avoid any conversation with Robyn with regard to the incident at Columbine High School.

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Monica said that she was sitting in Robyn Anderson's car in the senior parking lot eating lunch.  She said it was about 11:25hrs.  She said that she heard gun shots coming from the area of the cafeteria.  She looked at the cafeteria and saw Dylan shooting a gun out of a library window.  She knew it was Dylan because she knew Dylan.  She said that she noticed someone else walking by the library windows and possibly had a gun.  Monica said that she thinks the other person could have been Eric.  I asked her what Dylan was wearing, she said that he had on a white t-shirt, but could not see anything else.

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As she was driving out of the lot at approximately 11:15 a.m.  Alyssa reports that she passed Eric Harris at the north end of the Junior parking lot as he was arriving driving in his gray Honda.  Alyssa stated that she knew Eric well and waved at him with Eric waving back.

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Alyssa reported that her good friends Kristi Epling and her boyfriend Nate Dykeman paged her that whole afternoon of the 20th.  Alyssa reported that she knew that Nate knew both Eric and Dylan very well and Nate did not want to believe it was them that had committed the acts.  He kept saying to just wait and see for sure who the parties were.  That night Alyssa went to church with both Nate and his girlfriend Kristi where they met and were with Timothy Kastle who Alyssa stated was a very good friend of Nates.

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Sechler stated she knew Eric Harris better last year than this year.  She stated she saw him at the after prom, and a few months ago he went with her and her mother, Linda to get her windows tinted.  She stated that Harris was in her German class and he is very smart.  She stated that she has no notes from Harris besides the entry in her yearbook.  Sechler stated Harris did not like jocks, but she just thought it was hot air.  She stated a copy of the yearbook entry was given to Officer Terry Demmel when he interviewed her.  She stated she has never heard Harris talk about weapons or bombs, however, he did draw a picture in her yearbook with him note of a guy holding a gun.  She stated Harris also signed Eplings yearbook, but Epling has not told anyone about that.  Sechler stated Eric Harris was always nice to her, and if she had seen him in the school during the shooting he probably would not have shot her.  She stated he did not like the German teacher, because the teacher picked on her, Harris, and Epling.  She stated Harris also hated Shawn Lee and Shawn Kelly.  Sechler stated she did not know Klebold personally but she had seen him in the school, and recognized him as a student at Columbine.  

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She stated she went to her home where she heard about the shooting.  Sechler stated she paged Kristy Epling and asked her if she thought it was Harris and Klebold that did the shooting.  Epling told Sechler that she did not believe it.  A few hours later on the day of the shooting Dykeman dropped Epling off at Sechler's house.  Sechler asked Dykeman if the shooters were Harris and Klebold and he told her "that has not been confirmed."  The evening of the shooting Sechler, Dykeman, and Epling went to church where they met with Tim Kastle.  She stated she overheard Kastle tell Dykeman that Klebold held a gun to his head.  She heard Dykeman tell Kastle "Dylan is not like that," "If only I could have done something, I could have stopped this."

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Sechler was asked if she thought Nate Dykeman could be involved in the shooting or may have known it was going to occur.  She stated Dykeman may have known if he and Harris were close like they used to be, however, since Dykeman started dating Epling she did not believe he knew anything.  She stated Dykeman was jealous of Harris so they got in a huge argument, and almost had a fist fight.  She stated they have gotten to be friends again, but not like they were.

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One person five feet away was shot in the left leg at the knee.  I then saw a tall, white male in a trench coat come down the hill.  He had a black trench coat, long blondish hair, backwards black hat.  He looked down at his hands and it looked like he had a gun maybe 1 1/2 feet long.  I then went inside the cafeteria while the kid that was shot was screaming "I've been shot."  A cafeteria lady came out and warned the students to get down, she then tried to pull the wounded student in the building.  Another cafeteria lady was waving some students into the kitchen and back in an office.  There more students came in about 20 total.  We shut the door and one kid called the police.  For maybe 20 minutes we heard loud booms, one cafeteria lady described it as a shot gun. Heard maybe 10 shots from the shotgun over that 20 minute span.  We then barracaded the door and stayed down.  We were in there for maybe 2 hours.

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I asked Adam if he made eye contact with Eric.  Adam said Eric was smiling and appeared to be laughing, and he was walking or standing kind of "hunched over."  Adam told me at this point Dylan was standing off behind Eric and he didn't see exactly what Dylan was doing.  Adam described a female who he initially thought was Rachael Scott sitting on the grass area, just south of the outside stair case.  He told me this female stood up and jokingly commented to Eric and Dylan.  "Do you guys want to fight, do you want a piece of me?"  At this point Adam sees Dylan raise some type of a rifle, points it at the female who was standing south of them and fire one round.  He told me the female is shot, he believes in the stomach area and she falls to the sidewalk just south of the stair case.  Adam told me an unidentified female, who he believes was with the shooting victim, runs over to her and rolls her over and then stands up and yells at Eric and Dylan, "You hurt her, she's bleeding."  Adam tells me that Eric and Dylan are still facing in a southerly direction, and later Eric and Dylan turn towards Adam and his group of friends and start to fire their automatic weapons at them.  Adam made the comment to me that his friends Denny and John told the group at this point, "This isn't a joke, we need to get out of here, run."
*************************I believe the girl who was shot was actually Anne Marie Hochhalter, not Rachel Scott, but I'm just going on memory*******************

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Several minutes later, she heard what sounded like gunshots coming from the area of the soccer field.  She first thought that it was the drill team making the noise until she saw one of her friends (Anne Marie) being dragged by two of her friends.  Ms. Thompson said that she could see that Anne Marie was wearing a gray shirt and there was an area on the shirt that was covered with blood.  At this point, things started to sink in as to what was happening.  She and her two friends ran into one of the side doors of the cafeteria and they attempted to find a faculty member to help.  They found a janitor and informed him that someone had just been shot.  Several teachers were in the cafeteria and they were ordering everyone to get on the floor and stay down.

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Ms. Thompson said that she did not see either Eric or Dylan on the Monday or on Tuesday, the day of the incident.  She said that she saw both of them on the previous week and believes that it was on Wednesday.  At that time, she noticed that both of them were carrying black backpacks covered with some kind of white writing scribbled over the surface and both packs had patches that said "serial killer."
Ms. Thompson said that she knew both Eric and Dylan from school and she once had a date with Eric.  She said that she went out with Eric on a Saturday night in February (1999).  Her mother put a stop to the dating because Eric was a senior and he was too old for her.  They discontinued their relationship and remained friends.  Eric told her that he understood her mother's feelings and he agreed not to take her out again.

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Bianca stated that was because Eric had made numerous phone calls to Katie trying to get a date.  Bianca went on to say that Eric had met Katie at the Chili's restaurant one night, but that was the last time she had direct contact with him.  Bianca stated that Eric was calling all the time for a while, and she had interrupted a call once, Bianca thought it strange that a senior in high school was attempting to get a date with their daughter, a freshman, so they had told her she couldn't go out with him, but she had not put up any fight about it.  Bianca learned later from a friend of Katie's (Erin Lucero) that Katie was afraid of Eric also.
Bianca then stated that Eric had asked Katie if she was on the Internet, and if she had an E-mail address, but Katie is not allowed on the net unless she is supervised, and she doesn't have an E-mail address.

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She advised that her 5th period of school is lunch period.  Torrez advised on this date her and Eric Adams exited the school via the cafeteria and walked into the junior's student parking lot in order to access Adams' vehicle.  Torrez advised that as she and Adams were leaving the school and on the sidewalk area just outside of the cafeteria and facing the junior and senior parking lots, she observed Dylan Klebold's black BMW parked in the senior's parking lot in its normal location.  She advised she was able to observe Dylan Klebold sitting inside his vehicle.  She advised that Dylan Klebold appeared to be the vehicle alone.  Torrez advised Investigator Eaton it was normal for her to see Klebold sitting in his car during 5th period lunch.  She advised he often sat alone though occasionally she observed Eric Harris with him in the vehicle in the parking lot.  

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Vitale said prior to the incident he knew Harris by name, and again knew Klebold only on sight as a student at Columbine High School.  He described that Harris had an ongoing conflict with a friend of his, Cale Kennedy.  He further described this saying the two occasionally exchanged fighting type words as they crossed in the hallways.  

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Stephanie stated that she was out at the "smoking pit" at 11:15-11:20 AM and that she had started to walk to the cafeteria when she heard an explosion, but didn't think anything of it because she thought it was a senior prank.  Stephanie then stated that she saw Eric Harris at the top of the stairs talking to Brooks Brown.  I asked Stephanie what Eric was wearing and she stated that he was in his black trench coat and black pants.  I asked Stephanie what happened next and she replied Brooks went down the stairs and Eric pulled out a "BIG" gun and started shooting into the main hall doors.  I asked Stephanie if she was sure that she had seen Brooks Brown and not someone else and she stated that she was sure.  I asked Stephanie what happened next and she stated that she was very scared and started running toward Clement Park, then once she got there she went home.

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Wisher saw Dylan Klebold walk into the southwest entrance to the cafeteria from the parking lot.  He was dressed all in black, with black trousers, black shirt, black boots, a black trenchcoat and a black Colorado Avalance hat worn backwards, which had a Boston Red Sox emblem sewn on it.  Wisher does not recall Klebold carrying anything, and saw him walk over to the vending machines in the cafeteria.
According to Wisher, during lunch, Klebold and Eric Harris would normally sit in Klebold's BMW in the parking lot on the south side of the cafeteria and watch people.  Wisher only knows Klebold and Harris by sight.

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During 1st semester I was in gym and Eric had a class then too.  One day we were playing "Biff" (like dodgeball, but every man for himself), Eric won the first game, but the second game some jocks ganged up on him and were hitting him in the face with balls.  Then after gym they were pushing him into lockers.

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She said within approximately ten minutes of the beginning of the class, she heard a loud bang, and then said she heard another loud bang.  Mary said Ms. Moore and Mr. Ortiz exited the classroom and went into the hallway to check on what was taking place.  Mary said when they exited the door into the hallway, she could hear running in the hallway and screaming.  Mary said Ms. Moore was the first to return, and said she returned to the classroom by herself.  Mary said Ms. Moore was trying to lock the door to the classroom, but due to being scared she was unable to get the key in the lock.  Mary said just as Ms. Moore was getting it locked Mr. Ortiz returned to the classroom.  Mr. Ortiz told the students in the class, "They have a gun, they have a gun, get out of here as fast as you can."  Mary said the students, including herself exited the classroom very quickly into the hallway, and as she did she said she heard numerous gunshots.  Mary said these shots were possibly coming from the commons/cafeteria area of Columbine H.S.  She said she could see smoke from the air coming up from the commons area.

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Mary said she knew Eric Harris to be a nice, but "a different type of a person."  She said Eric Harris was a "very moody" type of a person.  Mary said she did not recall seeing Eric Harris wear a trench coat, however, he did wear "dark depressing clothes."  Mary said she is referring to his black clothing, and this is why she classified him as an outcast.  Mary said she did not know anything further about Eric Harris and said prior to 4-20-99, she did not know Dylan Klebold, however, she did remember seeing him at times with Eric Harris at school.
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PostSubject: Re: highlights of the 11k   Sat Apr 02, 2016 4:11 am

I also found this which groups the 11k by theme, for example, references to people who sayE&D were bullied, references who say they were bullies themselves etc: [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]
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PostSubject: Re: highlights of the 11k   Sat Apr 02, 2016 6:21 am

Thanks aliC! Robyn's friends dad asking her "hows it feel to go to prom with a killer", harsh lol. The fact that she was so calm during the shooting is a little odd. I guess she knew Dylan obviously wouldn't kill her.

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Have you seen them before?
Yes, in school, they are seniors, one carved his arm with a razor.

Thats pretty vague. I wonder if this has any truth to it or is just stemmed from he said she said rumors.


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Stephanie stated that she was out at the "smoking pit" at 11:15-11:20 AM and that she had started to walk to the cafeteria when she heard an explosion, but didn't think anything of it because she thought it was a senior prank. Stephanie then stated that she saw Eric Harris at the top of the stairs talking to Brooks Brown. I asked Stephanie what Eric was wearing and she stated that he was in his black trench coat and black pants. I asked Stephanie what happened next and she replied Brooks went down the stairs and Eric pulled out a "BIG" gun and started shooting into the main hall doors. I asked Stephanie if she was sure that she had seen Brooks Brown and not someone else and she stated that she was sure. I asked Stephanie what happened next and she stated that she was very scared and started running toward Clement Park, then once she got there she went home.


Brooks at the top of the stairs? She says she was sure? Maybe just mixup from stress?
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PostSubject: Re: highlights of the 11k   Sat Apr 02, 2016 9:15 am

Belladonna wrote:
I also found this which groups the 11k by theme, for example, references to people who sayE&D were bullied, references who say they were bullies themselves etc: [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]

Great find. Thanks for sharing.
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PostSubject: Re: highlights of the 11k   Sat Apr 02, 2016 2:06 pm

ailC wrote:


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She advised that her 5th period of school is lunch period.  Torrez advised on this date her and Eric Adams exited the school via the cafeteria and walked into the junior's student parking lot in order to access Adams' vehicle.  Torrez advised that as she and Adams were leaving the school and on the sidewalk area just outside of the cafeteria and facing the junior and senior parking lots, she observed Dylan Klebold's black BMW parked in the senior's parking lot in its normal location.  She advised she was able to observe Dylan Klebold sitting inside his vehicle.  She advised that Dylan Klebold appeared to be the vehicle alone.  Torrez advised Investigator Eaton it was normal for her to see Klebold sitting in his car during 5th period lunch.  She advised he often sat alone though occasionally she observed Eric Harris with him in the vehicle in the parking lot.  


this makes me sad.
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PostSubject: Re: highlights of the 11k   Sat Apr 02, 2016 6:45 pm

Interesting stuff
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PostSubject: Re: highlights of the 11k   Mon Apr 04, 2016 10:58 am

Here is something I found interesting. Interview with Jocelyn Heckler-Zack's sister.  This is P1400-1500 and starts at page 51.  I am copying and pasting so hopefully it pastes right!!

Jocelyn Heckler advised IO that she has known Dylan Klebold since his freshman year, at which time she would have been in the seventh grade.  She stated that she initially met him through her brother Zack Heckler and that Dylan Klebold in fact became a good friend of the entire Heckler family.  She further stated that she knew who Eric Harris was but never really talked to him.

In discussing the changes that she observed in Dylan Klebold take place, she stated that the changes began at the beginning of his junior year, during which time she was a freshman at Columbine High School.  She stated that Dylan Klebold began wearing a black trench coat but that he never really associated with the Trench Coat Mafia group.  She also stated that Eric Harris normally wore blue jeans and a white t-shirt and that she saw him hardly ever wear his trench coat.  She stated that she really never knew why Dylan Klebold began wearing a black trench coat other than he was becoming a rebel at that time.  She stated that she did know that Dylan Klebold and Zack Heckler, her brother, began believing somewhat in the principles of Anarchy.  Jocelyn Heckler stated that Dylan Klebold then began getting deeply involved in computers and that he in fact took classes on how to build computers at Columbine High School.  She further stated that Dylan Klebold was able to create his own computer program and that by the end of his junior year, he played computer games all the time.  She stated that some of the computer games he played included “Wolfenstein” and the game “Doom”, which he played briefly.  She stated that he then began playing “Duke Nukem” in which the player shot and blew people up.  She further stated that a person is able to play these video games with other people on the internet, which is what Dylan Klebold did.  She stated that by his senior year, he became very involved with the video game known as “Quake”, people that the player kills look more like people rather than like monsters in the other games.

Jocelyn Hecker advised IO that Dylan Klebold would telephone her brother Zack every single night at approximately 2100 hours.  She stated that she personally would talk with Dylan Klebold for approximately five minutes if she answered the phone and then Zack would talk to him and play video games with him.  She stated that Dylan Klebold never mentioned anything to her about blowing up the school or hurting or killing people.  She further stated that he never was into making bombs that she was aware of.  She did state, however, that she knew that even in 1996, that Eric Harris was deeply involved into making pipe bombs but had no knowledge of Dylan being involved in such activity.  She further stated that her brother Zack was told by their parents for him not to hang around with Eric Harris because of his bomb making activities during October 1997.

Jocelyn Hecker advised IO that she never noticed anything unusual that really stood out in regards to Dylan Klebold just prior to the tragic incident occurring at Columbine High School on 04/20/99.  She did state, however, that on the night of 04/19/99, Dylan Klebold did not call their residence so her brother Zack telephoned Dylan at approximately 2300 hours.  She stated that Zack asked Dylan Klebold if he wanted to play the internet with Dylan Klebold replying that he was tired, that he did not feel like talking and just wanted to go to bed.  Jocelyn Heckler stated that this was very unusual for Dylan Klebold to say or do since he and her brother Zack would stay up until 0100 to 0130 hours every night and play the video games over the internet.
Jocelyn Heckler stated that she was surprised on Tuesday morning in not seeing Dylan Klebold at Columbine High School because she always saw him every morning around 0930 hours.  She stated that the two of them would briefly meet at the bottom of the stairs down next to the commons area where they would chit chat for approximately five minutes.  She stated that on the morning of 04/20/99, she waited around by Dylan Klebold never showed up.  She stated that at that point she just assumed that he was sick since he did not feel like talking the previous night to her brother.

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She further stated that no one she knows including herself saw this tragic accident coming from either Dylan Klebold or Eric Harris.  She stated that it was a complete shock to all of the, especially her family.
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