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PostSubject: Pages 1301-1800   Tue Apr 05, 2016 1:36 pm

Thanks/You're welcome to everyone. I'm glad to have a place to post my notes (I took them originally so I wouldn't completely lose my place in the weeks and month between readings) but please keep in mind some of this info is clearly hearsay or personal opinion and only included because I thought it was interesting.

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Quentin said that he knew who Eric Harris was from a Gov/Econ class that they had together last semester. He said that the class had to make a video to sell a product. He said that Dylan Klebold, who was not in the class, had helped Harris with the video. The product/service that the video was to market, was a hit man service for the nerds at school to call on when they were being picked on by the other students. Brown said another student named Erik Veik helped them make the video and played the role of the nerd. Brown said in the video, the nerd calls up the hit men, (the role of hit men played by Harris and Klebold), to get rid of the bullies. He said that the video showed htem with guns in the school in different shots with German techno music playing in the background. Brown said that the class was just surprised and did not find the video very funny. Brown said the instructor for that class was Mr. Tonelli. I asked Brown what the other students' projects were like and he said stuff like a doorbell that shocks unwanted salesman, machines that help people change their socks, something to keep dogs from urinating on mailboxes and stuff like that.
Quentin Brown added that Harris was involved in producing Friday feature videos, one was of the soccer team, while German music (Du Haus, Der Haus or something similiar) played in the background. I asked Brown what that meant and he explained that Harris said it meant 'I Hate You' in German and that the people that made the song, would like the shots of the soccer team. Brown said that he didn't think that Harris liked the jocks real well.

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John said he had seen Dylan Klebold in the hallways of Columbine High and described Klebold as "goofy looking." John said he remembers Dylan Klebold because he was tall (estimated 6'5" tall) and skinny. He remembered Dylan Klebold being alone in the hallways, and said Klebold would wear dark clothing and a trench coat that hung below his knees. John said he had seen Eric Harris in the hallways of Columbine High also, and said Eric Harris looked "mean and feisty."

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Marla stated the following: She joined TCM at the beginning of the school year in 1997. Just hung out during school. Did not hang out after school. Did know Dylan. He asked her to this years prom, but she already had a date. Would have went if she did not already have a date. Did not know Eric. Dylan and Perry were not excepted into the group last year, but did dress like them...
Group just fell apart after last year. This is when Eric, Perry, and Dylan got into the group. Group picture in year book are not all TCM members. Some were not pictured. Said as a group they played cards at lunch time and talked about swords and knifes. Never saw any of the group with a sword. Zack Heckler was best friends with Dylan. Was with Zack and Dylan the weekend before prom, nothing was said about what happened at school on the 20th. Robyn Anderson was Dylan's date for the prom. She is a good girl.

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I asked Trista Fogarty what she knew about the "Trench Coat Mafia" and/or the "Trench Coat Mafia" students. Trista said when she first began attending Columbine High School her friends advised her to avoid the "Trench Coat Mafia" students. Trista said she was told the reason to avoid the "Trench Coat Mafia" was that they were "satanic", that they used drugs together, and "they all have sex together." Trista could not elaborate further on the information she had received about the "Trench Coat Mafia" having sex together, but said she did not believe it meant that Dylan Klebold and Eric Harris were having a homosexual relationship together.

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Jocelyn Heckler stated that she was surprised on Tuesday morning in not seeing Dylan Klebold at Columbine High School because she always saw him every morning around 0930 hours. She stated that the two of them would briefly meet at the bottom of the stairs down next to the commons area where they would chit chat for approximately five minutes. She stated that on the morning of 04/20/99, she waited around but Dylan Klebold never showed up. She stated that at that point she just assumed that he was sick since he did not feel like talking the previous night to her brother.

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page 75
Morrissey is close in age to a lot of the students and they tend to open up to her. Two female freshman students in particular wrote that they were both friends of Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold. They wrote very fondly of Harris and Klebold, and Morrissey considered the girls to have had "a freshman crush on two seniors." The students were Marla Foust and Katherine "Katie" Thompson.

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I asked Newberry what his prior contacts were with suspects Dylan Klebold and Eric Harris. Newberry stated that Klebold was in his gym class last semester. Also, last semester they played flag football during gym. Newberry stated that Klebold would have an attitude if Newberry did not throw him the ball when he was open. Klebold seemed to dislike jocks.
Newberry stated that he would see Harris in the halls at school, but did not know his name. He thought he was kind of weird but did not associate him with Klebold. Newberry stated he Harris appeared to always be angry.

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page 27
Chris Riley had a couple of classes with Eric Harris, he didn't like him much but kept his distance, no conflict as far as arguments or fights. Chris Riley has known Klebold since 2nd grade.
Chris Riley is involved in weight lifting and played football his freshman year at Columbine High School. Chris is in bowling class, and has bowled against Harris's team which included Klebold.

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Lisa Steepleton said she did not know anything about the Trench Coat Mafia or its student members, other than to say she was in the same gym class as suspect Eric Harris in the school semester that began on January 1, 1999. She said suspect Harris did not bother her, but she said he stayed to himself and did not appear to have any friends. She said she did not see anybody harass or pick on suspect Harris. Lisa told me the gym class teacher's name was Mr. Marshall. Lisa Steepleton said she rarely saw suspect Harris in street clothing, due to the fact he wore his gym clothes in class, however, she did remember seeing him on at least one occasion wearing black clothing, to include a black T-shirt that had a patch on the left side of the chest and on the upper chest/shoulder area, of a Swastika. She said he wore black pants and black boots, but did not recall him wearing a trench coat at the time, nor did she recall ever seeing him wear a trench coat.

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While Lauren was on the telephone speaking with her mother, Brandi recalls seeing Dylan Klebold, who was running east down the main hallway toward the office area. Dylan had stopped when he saw Lauren talking on the telephone. Brandi described Dylan as wearing a dark coat, dark pants and he had some type of a dark hat on. Dylan was carrying some type of a firearm. Once Brandi saw Dylan, she started to move north down the hallway toward the counseling office, at which time she recalls hearing several other students running east down the main hallway at which time, Dylan turned toward the main office area and began to fire the weapon he was carrying.

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He notes sitting directly in front of Harris and Klebold in this class, and describes them often of talking among themselves about their shared racial hatred.

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I asked John if Eric [Veik] had said anything else, and he stated that Eric told him he was friend's with Eric and Dylan, the shooters. John remembered Eric standing up in class after the shootings and telling everyone that he knew it was Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold, because they had finally carried out their big plan. John stated that Eric had talked about working with Harris and Klebold in the video class, and that he had worked for them "exclusively" when they made videos. John stated that Eric was really upset about a video that the three of them had made where Harris had said he wanted to hurt him.
John stated that he had also been told by Eric that he had made bombs, and a home made nail gun once, and that he was really concerned about the ease that you could get something in the school. He even talked about using a digital video case to smuggle stuff in with.

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page 66
Jonathan recalled he and his fellow students ran to the corner of the room and attempted to put up tables in front of the doors. They continued hearing gunshots and screaming. A few minutes later, Mr. Sanders came into the classroom and was badly bleeding. Some students attempted to help him.
About 15-20 minutes later a white male wearing a dark trenchcoat walked by the room. He was described as tall (over 6'), hat on backwards, blond big hair out the back. Jonathan had a very quick look at him while trying to stay hidden. The man, later identified as Dylan Klebold tried to open the door. He then moved on. Jonathan recognized Dylan as a student at Columbine. He did not see the man identified as Dylan again. Shortly after Dylan walked by, a loud explosion happened outside the room.

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page 79
Baumgart stated that he had known Dylan Klebold since they were kids. They were in the same Cub Scout troop. He knew Dylan from about 3rd through 5th grade and then again during 7th and 8th grade.
He stated that Dylan was always sort of a follower, when Eric Harris came along, Dylan and Harris quickly became friends. Harris was an avid, almost obsessive video game player. It was during this time that Baumgart stopped hanging around with Dylan. This happened around the time they were all in 9th grade...
He stated that he had not had any falling out with Dylan or Eric, and would still say hello to them when he would see them. He stated that Dylan was very gentle.

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He stated that Dylan and Eric were not mad at him. Earlier in the year he had been in a video production class with Harris. Baumgart dropped the class after the first week, but before he did, he and Harris had reminisced about earlier school days.

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Baumgart stated that as he was running out of the school, he knew it was Dylan and Eric, doing the shooting. Dylan would not do it on his own, he was a follower. Eric had lost touch with reality. Dylan and Eric had previously made a video showing the destruction of a bicycle with a bat or something. Eric appeared to really enjoy beating up the bike. The other videos Eric and Dylan made were weird, but the videos were not really scary so everyone figured, "why bother?"

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PostSubject: Re: highlights of the 11k   Tue Apr 05, 2016 1:58 pm

[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.], thank you so much for posting these here, it's very interesting and helpful, particularly for people like me who don't have the time or inclination to read the 11k! Laughing

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PostSubject: Re: highlights of the 11k   Tue Apr 05, 2016 2:11 pm

You can now find this thread in the sticky section of Columbine documents.

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PostSubject: Pages 1801-2200   Wed Apr 06, 2016 7:57 am

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When asked about Eric Harris, he said that he did know who Eric was and did know his first name. He said that Eric would sometimes be in the cafeteria in the mornings before school classes started. He would be in the cafeteria with his friends playing Hearts at table WW and he would see Eric and others at tables VV, UU, or XX (referring to diagram). He said Eric always ate a bag of doughnuts in the morning. He has only seen Eric in a trench coat a couple of times in the last two years. He said that he and his friend Andy Thomas knew Chris Morris and said that Chris knew Eric Harris.
When asked about Dylan Klebold, he said that he knew his first name also. He said that he saw Dylan helping another student named Chris Morris with video filming as part of the "stage crew" activity after school. He said his friends Andy Thomas and Mike Casey knew Dylan. He said that Dylan wore a black trench coat a lot at school. From watching Dylan interact with the others, he thought that Dylan was a follower. He said that no matter what they were all going to do, like go out and smoke a cigarette, Dylan would go too. He thought that if Chris Morris and Eric Harris told Dylan to go jump off a cliff, Dylan would do it.

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Cram said that while he was on the phone with the Littleton Fire Department he heard a very loud explosion that literally knocked him off his feet. Cram said that he heard that explosion around 11:30 a.m. and that the explosion and gun fire continued for about 1-15 more minutes.
Cram said that he and the other teachers and students were finally rescued and escorted out of the school by a SWAT team. Cram said that the SWAT team members were very abusive and wouldn't listen to him when he attempted to tell them about Dave Sanders. He said that he was waiting and holding a fire extinguisher in his hands when the SWAT team found them. Cram said that the fire extinguisher was the only weapon they could find to protect themselves. Cram said that the SWAT team pointed guns at him and made him lay face down on the ground and put a gun to his head while they frisked him.

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Cram said that he and the other teachers and students thought that Harris may have been involved because one of the students in the room with them had been in the cafeteria or the library and had seen Eric but could not remember his last name until another student said it.

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He said that he did have a gym class with Dylan Klebold and that some of the students did make fun of him because he wore a trench coat all the time, but that no one really gave him any problems and he didn't cause any problems in the class.

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Downs said she was in Biology class when they heard a roaring noise which was "lots" of kids running and screaming towards the exit of the school. One of the students in her class - Jason Bear looked out the window and saw maybe hundreds of kids running out of the school. Then she heard several gunshots from inside the building, possibly on the stairway which is about 10 feet from her classroom door. More kids ran into the Biology class room then everyone went into the green house area of the class. Downs thinks there were about 30-45 people in the green house. Downs said she heard what she thought were the shooters outside the locked main classroom door say "Todays the day I want to die," "kill me now." Then Downs heard several more pipe bombs explode, "they shook the floor."

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Although he knew who Klebold and Harris were, (they were both in his creative writing class), he didn't associate with them. He thinks that both Klebold and Harris were in class on Monday, but certainly not in class on Tuesday. He viewed them as outcasts, but didn't think they were part of the Trench Coat Mafia (TCM).

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Mr. Hancey stated on April 20, 1999 he was in a science lab room doing lab work when he heard people running and screaming. Mr. Friesen came into the lab room and asked if anybody knew First Aid. Mr. Hancey stated he did. Mr. Friesen took Mr. Hancey to Doug Johnson's room where Mr. Sanders was located. Kevin Starkey another student was helping Mr. Sanders.
Mr. Hancey stated Mr. Sanders was laying face down on the floor. Mr. Hancey stated they gathered up shirts and put them under Mr. Sanders' head.
Mr. Hancey stated he checked Mr. Sanders for wounds. Mr. Sanders had fallen face first knocking out his teeth. Mr. Hancey stated he cut Mr. Sanders' shirt off and observed two bullet wounds. Mr. Sanders had a broken right clavicle. They put a blanket on Mr. Sanders. He retrieved pictures from Mr. Sanders wallet and kept talking to Mr. Sanders by asking him questions about the photographs. The reason for that was to keep Mr. Sanders from going into shock.
Mr. Hancey stated his teacher Theresa Miller was also in Mr. Johnson's room. Ms. Miller called her family to tell them she was alright. Mr. Hancey then called his dad to tell him he was alright however, he needed help with Mr. Sanders. His dad was able to call 911 and that operator was able to give instructions on how to take care of Mr. Sanders.

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Kane stated she did not know Harris, and had only seen Klebold around the school a couple of times. She stated the only other student she knew that dressed in dark clothing a lot was Marla Foust. Kane stated Foust hung out with some of the TCM last year. She stated Foust was very nice, and she never saw her or any other TCM students with weapons.

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page 16
Lopatin said that he did have a run in with Eric Harris before. Lopatin said that Harris had been involved in a car accident where Harris had backed into Lopatin's car. Lopatin said that when Harris had backed into his car Harris had become angry and started to shake and pound on his steering wheel.


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Evan did advise about four months before the shootings he did have a confrontation with Eric Harris in school. Evan related that he walked around a corner and bumped into Harris. Harris became angry and pushing ensued. At the end of the confrontation Harris told Evan that he "should watch his back."

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Kathryn Mohrbacher said prior to the shooting on 04-20-99, at Columbine High School, (unknown how long before) she was running late one day, so she stopped into the Black Jack Pizza at Ottawa and Pierce to order a pizza to go. Kathryn Mohrbacher said when she went inside, several people who she now believes may have been Trench Coat Mafia people, came from inside the rear of the restaurant. Kathryn Mohrbacher said, "there was obviously a lot more going on back there, than making pizzas." She said these people really scared her by the way they looked and talked to her. She said she asked them if she could order a pizza to go and she was told "no." Kathryn Mohrbacher said rather than question then as to why, she left the restaurant. Kathryn Daniel Mohrbacher said she did not call the Black Jack Pizza management, nor did she call law enforcement at that time.

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Melissa went on to say they thought it was over and then heard a bunch of gunshots and then someone say; "I want to die today." Melissa stated the person saying that had a mocking type laugh and would yell and then more gunshots.
Melissa stated she felt two bombs go off. She stated the green house shook and she thought it was at the school store since it was directly under them.

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She specifically recalls Dykeman as well as Morris bowling that morning, and that Harris and Klebold were absent. She recalled thinking Morris' flannel shirt and white t-shirt as not being typical for him as he generally wears black. She said she knew each of these students on sight, but did not know them well enough to ascertain whether Morris and Dykeman were behaving unusually that day. She added that Harris and Klebold were very animated bowlers as they would "shot-put" the ball, and would roundhouse/softball pitch the ball. The two would also make a "Heil Hitler" type salute after bowling a strike.

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Selchert said that Harris and Klebold were in a lot of the same classes he was in. He said that they were in his video production class. Selchert said that on Monday the 19th of April, just after (2) second hour he and two of his friends who he identified as, Mike Vendenia and Nick Romanision, saw Eric Harris sitting outside the doors located to the west end of the main hallway. Selchert said that they asked Eric Harris what he was doing and he responded, "I'm planning for tomorrow." Selchert said that they laughed and said "Well if the school blows up we'll know who did it." Selchert said that they did not take the comments made by Eric Harris as serious and were only joking with him when they responded. Selchert said that Dylan Klebold and Eric Harris were both in his video production class and his bowling class. He said that both Harris and Klebold were missing from classes the morning of the shooting.
Selchert said that he had seen Harris and Klebold make videos where in they were always shooting things. He said that he had also seen some videos they made that were "normal." Selchert said that he did not suspect and had no reason to suspect that Harris and Klebold were planning the incident at Columbine High School.

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Nancy asked me how the news media had gotten copies of the cafeteria video which was released on national news on 10-12-99. I told Nancy that I did not know how or why the video was released. Nancy stated, "You have custody of the tapes, and you don't know how they were released?" I told her I did not have that information and I wasn't privy to it. Nancy told me that it was hard for her to sit here and believe what I was telling her about the case when she has concerns if the Sheriff's Office is giving her truthful information. It was apparent to this investigator that Nancy and Jennifer were questioning the credibility of the Jefferson County Sheriff's Office.

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Starkey told me that Harris and Klebold referred to him [BLANK]. Starkey advised that a girl he once dated, Devon Adams, had been going out with a TCM associate by the name of Zach Heckler. Heckler had given him the nickname. Harris and Klebold just picked up on the nickname and began using it.
Starkey has had a number of altercations with Heckler, but not with Harris or Klebold. At one time Starkey's cousin, Devin Kathol, went to Heckler and told Heckler to leave Starkey alone. a short time after the warning from Kathol to Heckler the front picture window of Starkey's home was shot out. Starkey believes that Heckler is responsible for the shooting of the window.
Starkey is currently a sophomore at Columine HS.

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Mr. Starkey was asked if he knew Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold. Mr. Starkey stated he works at the Cooper 7 movie theatre and Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold worked at Blackjack Pizza which was right next door. He would order pizza from both Eric and Dylan. They both seemed nice at the time.
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PostSubject: Re: highlights of the 11k   Wed Apr 06, 2016 10:14 am

I can only imagine, what they did to those pizzas they made. I'm sure some were spit on, dropped on the floor and still served.
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PostSubject: Pages 2201-2300   Sat Apr 09, 2016 7:07 pm

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They then walked away for a second and he heard another shot. The two individuals returned and starting banging on the door to the other science room, where Mr. Sanders was, trying to get in. He observed both lean down, then saw they had what appeared to be a bomb. He described the device as being a white cylinder about one foot long and one and a half inches round. The two taped the device onto the wall, near the door to the Sanders room and walked back down the hallway, toward the library. At that point he heard more gunshots and people screaming. Vandemark stated, he watched the device on the wall and saw it was sparking and smoking for a short time. It then let off a large puff of smoke, about three foot long and stopped all activity.

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Walker has previously known the suspects, Harris and Klebold. He stated he has taken German with Harris for 3 1/2 years. He also played soccer and volleybal with Harris after school. Walker knew Klebold as a friend of Harris who hung around with Harris.

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At Clement Park, a female police officer began asking questions about Klebold and Harris, such as the cars that they drove, the space numbers they parked in, their address and phone numbers. Walker thought that they had been shot. Walker stated that a student named Ryan Shumber was there and gave the police officer information on Harris and Klebold.

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I asked Walker if he ever talked with members of the "Trench Coat Mafia" about bombs, particularly Harris or Klebold. He stated, "No." Walker then made the statement, "Eric liked things to go boom." I asked him how he knew that. He stated that Harris talked about always wanting to build bombs. He told him that a person could get information on how to build bombs from the Internet and from the school library. Walker stated Harris never claimed to have made a bomb or blown up any bombs.
Walker told me that in December of 1998 Eric Harris asked him to purchase a shotgun for him. When Walker wanted to know why, Harris stated he wanted it for hunting. I asked Walker if it didn't strike him funny that Harris would be interested in hunting. He stated it did not because a lot of kids go hunting. Walker's 18th birthday was on November 28, 1998. He stated he celebrated his birthday with his family and did not see Harris on that day. Walker believes Harris may have heard him talking about his birthday a few days before it actually occurred. Walker suggested that Harris knew that because of his 18th birthday that Walker would be old enough to purchase a weapon for him.
Walker stated that Harris asked him about buying a shotgun at the beginning of one of their class periods for German class. He said that Harris asked him if he was 18. When he said yes, Harris replied, "Then you can buy me a gun." Walked stated he replied, "I'm sure I could, but I wouldn't." I asked Walker why he felt Harris would ask him to make the purchase. Walker said it was because Harris "confided in me." He quickly added, "but not about his dark side."

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I asked Walker what kind of weapons Harris wanted to purchase. He stated that he wanted a shotgun or a rifle. Walker stated he doesn't remember exactly which one. I could see that Walker was now swallowing hard. He made the statement that Harris was "fascinated with shotguns." I asked him how he would know that. He stated that Harris would often make sounds and motions with his arms as if he were racking a round of ammunition in the shotgun. I asked him if Harris asked him to purchase a handgun. He stated there was no talk about buying a handgun.
I asked Walker how this transaction was supposed to work out. Walker asked Harris how much money the gun would cost. Harris told him it would be a couple hundred dollars. I asked him if he knew whether or not Harris had that money at that time. Harris did have the money at the time of their conversation, Walker said. Walker stated that he was to give Walker the money and Walker would then go make the purchase. Walker stated that Harris did not mention any particular place to buy the weapons. Dylan Klebold's name did not come up in their conversation. Harris did not mention a time that he wanted the purchase to be made. I asked him if he knew what time Harris needed the shotgun, and he stated he did not.


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I asked Walker how the conversation between he and Harris came about. He stated that he thinks it was because there was a girl in their German class who is a vegetarian, talking about not eating meat. Eric made the comment that he liked his meat "bloody red." The girl's name was Lisa Secler. Walker stated that he believes it was that conversation that lead into Harris talking about guns and hunting. Walker indicated that his reluctance to purchase the weapon caused the conversation to be dropped and they went on to talk about something else. Harris did not mention any other potential buyers.

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I asked him if he participated in any sports. He stated he was a wrestler, but he had been injured this year and could not continue wrestling. Even though Walker considered himself a "jock" he stated that Harris had never threatened him. Harris was a friend to him and was always nice. Walker stated he did not know of any medical problems Harris might have, nor of medications that Harris might be on.
Walker showed me his 1997/1998 school yearbook. Harris made the notation in German, "Ish Bin Gott." I asked Walker what it meant. He stated that it meant, "I am God." In Harris' written notation was also a German phrase that meant, "Fuck the world." Harris signed his name and then put the word "Reb" below it. There was also a drawing which appeared to be that of a grenade at the bottom of Harris' written comments.


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Walker then went on to tell me about a time in which he, Dykeman, Harris, and a couple others whom he couldn't recall the names of, went down to the Cooper 7 Theater to look for discarded movie trailers. Trailers are previews of films. He stated that Dykeman had showed him two frames of a movie trailer one day and then after school they went over to the Cooper 7 to see if they could find more. Walker told Dykeman he wanted some. Walker stated this occurred last semester. He couldn't remember if Klebold was with them at the time. The two males that he couldn't recall the names of were friends of Dykeman. Walker stated that when they went to the Cooper 7 he was able to get some discarded film showing the preview of the movie "Rush Hour." Afterwards, Dykeman dropped his friends off at a house and then took Walker to Dykeman's house. There they cup up the film in Dykeman's garage.
I asked Walker when was the last time he socialized with Klebold and Harris. He stated that they worked on some video productions together. Walker recalled that he played the German rock band "Romstien's" music as the background of a video that Harris and Klebold filmed. In the video a person playing the part of a "jock" begins to "tease" and "beat-up" a guy who looks like a "nerd." At that point Harris and Klebold walk in to the room and stare into the camera. I asked Walker if Klebold and Harris then shoot the "jock." He stated no. He stated no weapons were involved. Harris and Klebold only scared the "jock" away and that there was no touching. I asked Walker if this was the video entitled "Hitman for Hire." Walker stated he thought that was the title.
Walker recalled two other productions he assisted them with. He stated he and a guy named Mike played detectives, investigating Harris because Harris had shot someone. He stated in that video they used a prop made up of a backpack with a water bottle and straw. Walker stated he didn't finish the film with them because he ended up getting injured during that time. I believe this injury is related to his wrestling injury.


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Walker stated that in the fall Harris and another student, who he just described as a "film guy," played the part of robbers in a video. They rob an individual and Walker plays the part of a cop who gives chase to them all the way to Clement Park. He stated they made the video as part of the Friday Feature presentation at the school, but that it never was aired. He stated Klebold was not in this film.
Walker stated that there was an idea that Harris and Klebold had, but the idea was never filmed. The idea had Harris and Klebold being the bad guys who go into the cafeteria and shoot students. Walker and another student named Mike played the good guys who come to get them. The idea had Harris and Klebold standing on tables in the cafeteria hurting people. There was no ending to the film discussed. Walker stated he has never been to the Harris or Klebold residences. I asked him if he ever had Klebold and Harris to his home. He stated he could not recall. He did say that Dykeman was over at his house for Walker's 17th birthday.
Walker stated that two days after the Columbine shooting he saw Brooks Brown at Clement Park. Brooks was at Rachel Scott's car. He was crying. Brooks was saying, "Eric and Dylan would never do this." Brooks continually repeated this statement.
Walker stated he has not seen Nate Dykeman since the shooting. Walker describes his friend, Clinton Moore, as Nate Dykeman's best friend. Moore told Walker that he had called Dykeman after the shooting to see if he was alright and to check on him in case he was suicidal. Moore told Walker that Dykeman told him of a time in which Klebold was "very scary." A fight had occurred and he described Klebold as going "crazy." It is unknown when that fight occurred.
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PostSubject: Re: highlights of the 11k   Sat Apr 16, 2016 5:24 am

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Mr. Hancey stated on April 20, 1999 he was in a science lab room doing lab work when he heard people running and screaming.  Mr. Friesen came into the lab room and asked if anybody knew First Aid.  Mr. Hancey stated he did.  Mr. Friesen took Mr. Hancey to Doug Johnson's room where Mr. Sanders was located.  Kevin Starkey another student was helping Mr. Sanders.
Mr. Hancey stated Mr. Sanders was laying face down on the floor.  Mr. Hancey stated they gathered up shirts and put them under Mr. Sanders' head.
Mr. Hancey stated he checked Mr. Sanders for wounds.  Mr. Sanders had fallen face first knocking out his teeth.  Mr. Hancey stated he cut Mr. Sanders' shirt off and observed two bullet wounds. Mr. Sanders had a broken right clavicle. They put a blanket on Mr. Sanders.  He retrieved pictures from Mr. Sanders wallet and kept talking to Mr. Sanders by asking him questions about the photographs.  The reason for that was to keep Mr. Sanders from going into shock.

Damn, this one really got me Sad

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Dave Sanders was just a few feet from safety when the first shot hit him. He saw the killers, spun around, and ran for the corner, trying to save a few more students on the way there. One bullet got him in the back. It tore through his rib cage and exited through his chest. The other bullet entered through the side of his neck and came out his mouth, lacerating his tongue and shattering several teeth. The neck wound opened up one of his carotid arteries, the major blood routes to the brain. The shot to his back clipped his subclavian vein, a major vessel back to the heart. There was a lot of blood.

Dave crashed into the lockers, then collapsed on the carpet. Fellow teacher Rich Long and most of the students dove for the floor. Now Dave was really desperate.

"He was on his elbows trying to direct kids," one senior said.

Now that's a true hero right there.

Rest peacefully, Dave.
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PostSubject: pages 2301-2800   Sun Apr 17, 2016 4:39 pm

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Jennifer advised that the crush of students pushed her into a glass wall. She said that the glass in the wall was broken and she did not know if it was broken because of her hitting the glass or if it had been shot out. Jennifer continued to say that as she was running down the hall she heard a series of rapid fire shots from behind (west) her, and male voices laughing and saying "We got that one down, look at all the blood." Jennifer advised that she believed that she heard the bullets going past her head. Jennifer said that as the group approached the main exit she stopped running and at this time Mr. Sanders ran up behind her and pushed her. She said that Mr. Sanders told her to keep running. Jennifer said that Mr. Sanders sounded like he was out of breath and she briefly turned and looked at him. At this time she noticed that his hands were covered in blood. She stated that she did not know if he had been injured or if the blood came from someone he was trying to help. Jennifer related that she asked Mr. Sanders if he was all right and he said yes and told her "go" "go". Jennifer said that as she started to run again, Mr. Sanders was kind of leaning against the wall. Jennifer also reported that while she was in the south main level hall she noticed a strong odor similar to fireworks.

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Tina stated that Dylan was alone and that he "looked like he always does, that grumpy stare on his face." Tina stated that she did not see what he was wearing or she could not recall. Tina stated that she couldn't see into the car, but knows that there was "nothing piled in his car above the height of the windows." She stated that Dylan did not make eye contact with her.

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Tina stated that she recognized Dylan Klebold because he was in her Government Economics class in the fall of 1998. She stated that Brooks Brown and Robyn Anderson were also in the class. She stated that she never had any conversation with them during the semester. She stated that Brown and Klebold would come to class late and sneak out on occasions and the teacher (Ms. Karmigious (sic)) would never notice. Tina stated that she has seen Dylan in his Black BMW on several occasions before April 20th.
Tina stated that she was Analytical Reading this semester with Robyn Anderson. She stated that Robyn went on a lot of trips. She stated that she went to Germany and to New York during a short time period.

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Tina stated that "some time had passed and you could tell the cafeteria was empty". She stated that "they came back and that there were two distinct voices." She stated that they kept saying "yeah, yeah, yeah," but can't remember them saying anything else.

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Prior to 4/20/99, he knew who Klebold was, but not Harris. He thinks that the Friday prior to 4/20/99, Klebold picked a fight with an unidentified athlete (jock).

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Boortz advised that she had Eric Harris in gym class last semester, and thought he seemed like a "wannabe jock". She had only seen him once in a trench coat. She did not know any other members or associates of the Trench Coat Mafia.

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She said that, although she can't recall the exact conversation, Harris seemed to be ordering Klebold in what to do. She felt that Klebold was doing things to try and impress Haris. She said that from the position on the landing of the stairwell, they began to shoot across the cafeteria, towards the center of the cafeteria...
She said they threw several more pipe bombs and then suddenly there was a large explosion and a large fireball.

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She said that approximately 11:50 they heard ome more shooting and a loud explosion that shook the wall. She said just prior to this loud explosion, she could smell propane. She said that someone told her it was natural gas and she, familiar with camping, said no, that this was definitely a propane smell that she could smell. She said that around 12:00 they heard yelling in the kitchen, someone yelling "I know you're in there!" They heard more pounding and more gunfire and more bombs, she couldn't recall exactly how many. She said that they decided to get Joyce into the ceiling, (Joyce being Joyce Jankowski), to see if she could get through a vent. As she crawled across the ceiling tiles, she fell through into the teacher's lounge. She said that a student was also in the ceiling and yelled to them that they needed to get outside, that the suspects were no longer in the cafeteria.

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She said that she had both Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold in the freshman English class. She said that neither of them caused or posed any problems in the class. She described them as good students, however a little withdrawn. She also had Dylan Klebold working for her on several play productions. She decribed him as being very efficient. She said that on one occasion she remembers that he didn't show up for the production he was supposed to be at for rehearsal and that she asked a friend of his, Zach Heckler, where he was. Zach Heckler told her that Dylan Klebold had been in an anger management class. She asked Dylan Klebold about this when he came to the class and he didn't wish to provide any details other than he'd done something wrong and he had to go to this class. She describes him as being very respectful and courteous, and never showed any disrespect for her or any other faculty while she was around.

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He stated that Jay Gallentine, who is also a janitor, was with him, and they ran into the kitchen area and hid under a stove. He stated that the person in the trench coat began shooting at them, toward the kitchen area, but did not come downstairs to the cafeteria or kitchen, that he stayed in the hallway. He stated that a pipe bomb was thrown at them and it hit a stove and blew up beside them.

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[From JeffCo printout]
DID YOU SEE ERIC HARRIS OR DYLAN KLEBOLD EITHER ON MONDAY OR TUESDAY? WHAT WERE THEY DOING? WHAT DID THEY SAY? WERE THEY WITH ANYONE ELSE?
"On Monday I saw them in the hall. They scooted over to run into me, then they laughed.

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PostSubject: Re: highlights of the 11k   Sun Apr 17, 2016 4:46 pm

Nice alic. Thought you dissipeared for a second!
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PostSubject: Re: highlights of the 11k   Thu Apr 28, 2016 9:42 am

Something I found interesting....

PG 5701-5800 on page 15:

Sydney Jo Keating. date of birth July 24, 1956, employer - Jefferson County School District, Columbine High School (CHS), Campus Supervisor was shown two video tapes for the purpose of review and identification of CHS students and associates:

1- Review of the videotape of Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold filmed at the residence of Harris on 4/20/1999, prior to the shooting incident at CHS. The videotape was muted during the review by Keating.

2- Review of the videotape of CHS cafeteria on 4/20/1999 starting at 8:03 am. Individuals known to be TCM members or associates were identified as Dustin Gorton and Brian Sargent. Lance Kirklin, victim, is also idenfied on the videotape prior to being shot.

So she has seen at least part of the basement tapes

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PostSubject: Re: highlights of the 11k   Thu Apr 28, 2016 1:38 pm

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Something I found interesting....

PG 5701-5800  on page 15:

Sydney Jo Keating. date of birth July 24, 1956, employer - Jefferson County School District, Columbine High School (CHS), Campus Supervisor was shown two video tapes for the purpose of review and identification of CHS students and associates:

1- Review of the videotape of Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold filmed at the residence of Harris on 4/20/1999, prior to the shooting incident at CHS.  The videotape was muted during the review by Keating.

2- Review of the videotape of CHS cafeteria on 4/20/1999 starting at 8:03 am.  Individuals known to be TCM members or associates were identified as Dustin Gorton and Brian Sargent.  Lance Kirklin, victim, is also idenfied on the videotape prior to being shot.

So she has seen at least part of the basement tapes


Pretty good eyes to make out people from that grainy film.
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PostSubject: Re: highlights of the 11k   Thu Apr 28, 2016 1:43 pm

Another interesting aspect I found this morning was on Dean Peter Horvath. He is on 5701-5800 pg 6. He knew Dylan and Eric as well as their parents and gave descriptions of everyone including calling Dylan's dad Tom "einstein"

He also facilitated the punishments for them when they hacked the computers and when Dylan scratched the locker.

He also mentioned a time when Dylan and Eric reported a student harassing them by their cars.

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PostSubject: Re: highlights of the 11k   Mon May 02, 2016 3:11 pm

Susan Dewitt's testimony:

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IO Parson and Det. Jim Vonderohe were requested by the command post to conduct an interview with Susan Dewitt, who had approached an officer on the perimeter of the crime scene with information. At 1155 hours, IO and Det. Vonderohe met with Susan Rebecca Dewitt, DOB 2/3/82, who was ccompanied by her father, Steve Dewitt, and mother, Susan Fjeldheim. Susan Dewitt and her family were moved by IO's car to a point away from the media, at a nearby park on Fair St. near Marshall. This is a point inside the outer perimeter and just east of Columbin High School.

At 1155 hours, the interview was conducted, but was not recorded, due to the lack of equipment. Susan Dewitt stated that she had known Eric Harris after meeting him at hsi place of employment, the Blackjack Pizza restaurant, located near Ottawa and Pierce St. She states that she works for Great Clips which is in the same strip mall, and her job as receptionist involves her frequent trips to Blackjack Pizza to order and pick up pizza for the various employees at Great Clips. She got to know Eric, who works at Blackjack and discovered that they go to the same school. She stated that he seemed very nice and that they talked to each other occasionally. He somehow determined her name and began asking some of her friends at school about her and whether or not she like him, etc. She stated that he even went into Great Clips to ask for her on a couple of occasions. He has asked a friend of hers by the name of Megan Ledsack about her and whether or not Susan liked Eric. She stated that this has all occurred since January and that she did not know him prior to that time.

S. Dewitt stated that last Friday night (4/16/99) business was slow because of the snow and she went to the pizza business to place an order and returned shortly after that to pick it up. She stated that he provided her the order, at approximately 7:30PM, and that they talked briefly. She gave him her phone number and he indicated he would call after work. She stated that she got off at approximately 9:00PM. He later did, in fact, call her residence, getting her mother, Susan Fjeldheim.

Susan Fjeldheim stated that he called and identified himself as Eric and asked for Susan. She stated that he seemed very nice until she told him that Susan had gone to spend the night with a friend. She stated that his tone changed somewhat and that he seemed somwhat mad that Susan was not home to receive his call. She asked if he wanted her pager number and he took it. She recalled thinking that seemed very unusual that he would get so angry so quickly, simply because she was not at home.

Susan Dewitt then stated that Eric did page her, and indicated that the phone number was still in her pager. She checked her pager and indicated that she received the page at 9:29 on Friday night, the 16th, and was requested to call the phone number 932-8561. Following that phone number was the number 732, which she stated she recognized as his personal code, but did not know that it was his code until talking with him on the phone. She explained that many of the kids today are using code numbers following their phone number to let people know that it is "really them". She learned upon talking to him that 732 was his code. She stated that he stated that he was home and that the 932 phone number was his personal line in his room. She indicated she was spending the night at a friend named Katie's and that they talked for about half an hour. She stated that he did not seem mad at all and seemed fine. Asked about what kinds of things they talked about, she stated that he once mentioned some kids that he used to be friends with. who he was mad at for making fun of him. She specifically mentioned Mike Dinkle. whose sister is president of the student body in their school. He stated that he had heard that Mike Dinkle was talking about him and making fun of him and so he stopped hanging around with Mike. Susan Dewitt indicated that Mike Dinkle's sister is named Heather and that her friend, Megan. is boyfriend/girfriend with Mike Dinkle.

In response to questions, Susan Dewitt stated that she would sometimes see Eric at school, but would most often see him standing along the street where kids parked east of the school (Fair St.) smoking or talking with friends. They would say hi to each other.

Asked who Eric most often hung around with, she stated that he hung with a boy named Nathan, a senior who used to work at the McDonalds at Coal Mine and Pierce and then at Blackjack, where Eric works. She stated, however, that Nathan recently quit Blackjack's. Asked about Dylan Klebold, she stated that she did not know Dylan.

Asked about what else they talked about, she stated that they talked a little bit about computers because she was attempting to install AOL at her friend Katie's residence. Asked if Eric seemed to know a lot about computers. she stated that he did and that when she was visiting him at his home on Saturday, he talked about making CD's from the computer.

Returning to the one half hour phone call on Friday, 4/16/99, she stated that he asked if she had plans for Saturday and they agreed that he would call her sometime in the early afternoon of Saturday 4/17/99. He, in fact, called her later Saturday evening, at approximately 6:30 or 7:00 PM and asked her if she wanted to come to his residence and watch a movie. She agreed, arriving at approximately 7:00 PM. She indicated that he only lived approximately 5 minutes from her and that she drove herself to his residence. She staed that his parents had just left and he indicated that they were going out to dinner for their anniversary. He was home alone. She stated that they watched the movie "Event Horizon" and Eric indicated that this was one of his favorite movies. She stated it was about demons and a haunted ship. She indicated she could not give us Eric's address, but that he had given her directions for her to go to his house. She described it as a nice house with blue trim and grey stone, three-story and very large with a two-car garage. She stated that when she arrived, she glanced around and noticed Eric's black trench coat laying on the stairs. She stated that she sees him in it outside of the school, but not in school. She stated that he was acting "normal", sitting around. He asked if she wanted to go downstairs and watch the movie and they, in fact, did move to the downstairs area. They watched the movie straight through with no interruptions or phone calls and the movie ended at approximately 9:30 or 9:40PM. After the movie was over, they talked briefly and the only time he left was to let the dog out and return and let the dog in and return. We talked about other movies and made "small talk". She stated that he mentioned Mike Dinkle again and that he seemed "hurt" rather than angry about hearing that Dinkle had talked about him and made fun of him. He described Dinkle as being a "jerk" that he did not like anymore. He did not make any threats towards Dinkle, however.

She stated that his parents returned home at approximately 10:00 or 10:30PM and that his mother, and then father, came downstairs. They talked for about five minutes and seemed nice. Eric's mother shook her hand and Eric's father indicated that he got his hair cut at the Great Clips where she worked. They then went upstairs and Eric asked her if she wanted to listen to some music. They went into his bedroom, which was downstairs, and just off of the room where they were watching the movie. She stated that his room had posters of bands and one of Jenny McCarthy. She noted that he had a lot of CDs and that he made them off of the computer. Asked about the type of music that he was listening to, she stated that some of the music was "soft and flowing" such as Enya but stated that some of the music had "anger expressed." She stated that it was yelling and screaming. She stated that she did not believe it was in any foreign lanugages or that profanity was used, but that there was lots of banging. He described this as some of his favorites. She stated that she was not familiar with any of the music of this nature. In response to questions, she stated that the playing of this music did not seem to upset him.

She indicated that she saw soccer jerseys hanging in his room and asked if he played soccer. He stated that he did, until recently, but had dropped out. She asked if he played for Columbine High School and he stated, no and stated it in such a way that was somewhat exaggerated, but very definite that he had not played for the school. She stated that they continued to sit on his bed listening to music. She looked around his room and recalled seeing concert and movie ticket stubs stapled around his window. She stated that she did not see anything in his room that she considered suspicious. She stated that he received no phone calls during this time. At one point, she asked him for an aspirin and he left the room to look for one for her because she had a headache. Then, her sister paged her, which meant "get home". She indicated that he made no effort to get up or to encourage her to leave, however. She told him eventually that she needed to go home so she wouldn't get in trouble. She stated that the page came in at approximately 10:30 and that she did not leave for approximately 30 more minutes.

Asked if he had initiated any type of intimate contact with her, and she stated that he put his arm around her once, but did not kiss her except to kiss her on the cheek when she left, as a way of saying goodbye. He mentioned to her that she could go out and warm her car up and come back in until it was warm, but she stated that she better get home so she did not get in trouble.

On Sunday, 4/18/99, she stated she was working at Great Clips and Eric's father came in and said hello to her, calling her by name. She stated that he seemed very happy.

In response to questions, she stated that Eric and his parents seemed to get along very well together.

She did not receive any calls from Eric on Sunday. She saw him on Monday while walking to her car from school at approximately 10:15AM. She stated that she looked over and saw him and another boy that she did not know and that they waved. He walked over to talk to her while the other boy waited a short distance away. She asked him what he was doing and he stated that he was ditching class. She stated that they talked for about five minutes and that he seemed like something was bothering him. She described the other boy as being tall, with ear length, curly brown hair, and a black trench coat. She stated that she did not know who he as but that he might be named "Nate". She could not recall any facial hair and could not recall the color of his pants or shirt. She stated that she had to go and turned to walk away. She turned around a short distance later to look back but could not see him anywhere. She stated that he always seemed to do this, indicating that as she would walk away, she would turn and he would disappear. She stated this was the last time that she saw Eric.

In response to questions. she stated that it was her habit to go home for lunch and return to the school at approximately 11:45AM and that Eric was aware of this because she would frequently see him while walking to her car to leave for lunch.

In response to questions, she stated that she did not know Dylan, but had heard of the "Trench Coat Mafia" around school. She thought that there were "a lot of them" and had two of them in a class last semester. However, she stated that she rarely saw Eric hanging with them in a large group, only seeing him with one or two of them at a time. She stated that he seemed to dress normal sometimes, as well.

She repeated that they met in January and could not recall ever seeing him before January around school, but then stated that she thought she had a computer class with him.

In response to questions, she stated that she did not recall seeing a computer in Eric's room or in his chome. She did not recall seeing guns or anything related to explosive devices.

Asked if she knew anyone by the name of (redacted). She staed that he knew a (redacted) from school and thought that he was a senior, but did not believe he was a "trenchcoat mafia" person, but might hang out with them. She described him as being 5'9" or 5'10", heavyset, with dark brown hair cut in a "bowl" cut and very straight. She stated that she saw (redacted) on the news Tuesday, 4/20/99 standing around near Fair and Marshall, wearing a striped shirt (horizontal stripes). She stated that (redacted) had "hatred towards everyone" and would frequently make comments in class about people and was "not nice". She was unaware of any nicknames that he might have. She stated that he would frequently disrupt the class about something that someone in the class might say, making fun of them or belittling them. She stated that (redacted) was friends with another boy, who always wore a black trench coat, had dark curly hair down to his shoulders and was very tall. She stated that this boy had acne and body odor and wore black all of the time. She stated that she did not know his name.

Asked about her time spent inside of Eric's bedroom and whether or not she had observed any Nazi or Hitler type items, she stated that she wasn't absolutely sure, but thought that he might have had a Hitler picture above his bed. She did not recall seeing any tatoos or other markings on his body.

Asked about videos that he made, she stated that she was once in their computer tech lab and saw Eric and two other boys intently watching a video as she walked by. She recalled that the video depicted boys Eric's age, wearing Army camouflage type clothing, and black bandanas around their hair, running with guns in a field. She wa unsure as to who the boys were and was unsure whether Eric was in the video. She stated that she saw this video about two weeks ago and had not discussed it with Eric. She stated that they seemed to be very much "into it" as she walked by. She again stated that the people in the video seemed to be running with some type of guns and that she ehard what sounded like fireworks going off. She assumed that they were preparing a video for the "Friday showing", when individuals who make their own videos have them run on the closed circuit television system in the school, prior to announcments. She stated tht she thinks she has seen Eric on other videos during the friday announcments in the past, but was not sure.

In response to questions, she stated that he did not express any thoughts on political views with the government and did not make any remarks about jocks or blacks.

Asked again about her brief conversation on Monday 4/19/99, with Eric at school, she stated that he seemed as though he as not concentrating on things and was anxious and irritated, as though something was disturbing him. She noted this in only a five minute conversation. She stated that the other guy was smoking and waiting for him, but did not speak to Eric or hurry him.

In response to questions, she stated that he never in any way warned her about going to school on Monday and that on Saturday night had offered to make her copies of a CD.

Asked if Eric owned a vehicle, she stated that he drove a grey Honda 4-door and older model, but that she had never been in it. She stated that she saw it at his work, parked behind the building when he was working.

Asked about friends of hers who might know of any of the Trench Coat Mafia individuals, she stated that a girl in her third period choir class, Pauline Colby, used to hang with the Trench Coat Mafia but quit hanging aroudn with them because their "attitude scared her". She indicated that she had no further information to provide.

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PostSubject: Re: highlights of the 11k   Mon May 02, 2016 6:23 pm

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Susan Dewitt's testimony:

6101-6200  Pg 94:
IO Parson and Det. Jim Vonderohe were requested by the command post to conduct an interview with Susan Dewitt, who had approached an officer on the perimeter of the crime scene with information.  At 1155 hours, IO and Det. Vonderohe met with Susan Rebecca Dewitt, DOB 2/3/82, who was ccompanied by her father, Steve Dewitt, and mother, Susan Fjeldheim.  Susan Dewitt and her family were moved by IO's car to a point away from the media, at a nearby park on Fair St. near Marshall.  This is a point inside the outer perimeter and just east of Columbin High School.

At 1155 hours, the interview was conducted, but was not recorded, due to the lack of equipment.  Susan Dewitt stated that she had known Eric Harris after meeting him at hsi place of employment, the Blackjack Pizza restaurant, located near Ottawa and Pierce St.  She states that she works for Great Clips which is in the same strip mall, and her job as receptionist involves her frequent trips to Blackjack Pizza to order and pick up pizza for the various employees at Great Clips.  She got to know Eric, who works at Blackjack and discovered that they go to the same school.  She stated that he seemed very nice and that they talked to each other occasionally.  He somehow determined her name and began asking some of her friends at school about her and whether or not she like him, etc.  She stated that he even went into Great Clips to ask for her on a couple of occasions.  He has asked a friend of hers by the name of Megan Ledsack about her and whether or not Susan liked Eric.  She stated that this has all occurred since January and that she did not know him prior to that time.

S. Dewitt stated that last Friday night (4/16/99) business was slow because of the snow and she went to the pizza business to place an order and returned shortly after that to pick it up.  She stated that he provided her the order, at approximately 7:30PM, and that they talked briefly.  She gave him her phone number and he indicated he would call after work.  She stated that she got off at approximately 9:00PM.  He later did, in fact, call her residence, getting her mother, Susan Fjeldheim.

Susan Fjeldheim stated that he called and identified himself as Eric and asked for Susan.  She stated that he seemed very nice until she told him that Susan had gone to spend the night with a friend.  She stated that his tone changed somewhat and that he seemed somwhat mad that Susan was not home to receive his call.  She asked if he wanted her pager number and he took it.  She recalled thinking that seemed very unusual that he would get so angry so quickly, simply because she was not at home.

Susan Dewitt then stated that Eric did page her, and indicated that the phone number was still in her pager.  She checked her pager and indicated that she received the page at 9:29 on Friday night, the 16th, and was requested to call the phone number 932-8561.  Following that phone number was the number 732, which she stated she recognized as his personal code, but did not know that it was his code until talking with him on the phone.  She explained that many of the kids today are using code numbers following their phone number to let people know that it is "really them".  She learned upon talking to him that 732 was his code.  She stated that he stated that he was home and that the 932 phone number was his personal line in his room.  She indicated she was spending the night at a friend named Katie's and that they talked for about half an hour.  She stated that he did not seem mad at all and seemed fine.  Asked about what kinds of things they talked about, she stated that he once mentioned some kids that he used to be friends with. who he was mad at for making fun of him. She specifically mentioned Mike Dinkle. whose sister is president of the student body in their school.  He stated that he had heard that Mike Dinkle was talking about him and making fun of him and so he stopped hanging around with Mike.  Susan Dewitt indicated that Mike Dinkle's sister is named Heather and that her friend, Megan. is boyfriend/girfriend with Mike Dinkle.

In response to questions, Susan Dewitt stated that she would sometimes see Eric at school, but would most often see him standing along the street where kids parked east of the school (Fair St.) smoking or talking with friends.  They would say hi to each other.

Asked who Eric most often hung around with, she stated that he hung with a boy named Nathan, a senior who used to work at the McDonalds at Coal Mine and Pierce and then at Blackjack, where Eric works.  She stated, however, that Nathan recently quit Blackjack's.  Asked about Dylan Klebold, she stated that she did not know Dylan.

Asked about what else they talked about, she stated that they talked a little bit about computers because she was attempting to install AOL at her friend Katie's residence.  Asked if Eric seemed to know a lot about computers. she stated that he did and that when she was visiting him at his home on Saturday, he talked about making CD's from the computer.

Returning to the one half hour phone call on Friday, 4/16/99, she stated that he asked if she had plans for Saturday and they agreed that he would call her sometime in the early afternoon of Saturday 4/17/99.  He, in fact, called her later Saturday evening, at approximately 6:30 or 7:00 PM and asked her if she wanted to come to his residence and watch a movie.  She agreed, arriving at approximately 7:00 PM.  She indicated that he only lived approximately 5 minutes from her and that she drove herself to his residence.  She staed that his parents had just left and he indicated that they were going out to dinner for their anniversary. He was home alone.  She stated that they watched the movie "Event Horizon" and Eric indicated that this was one of his favorite movies.  She stated it was about demons and a haunted ship.  She indicated she could not give us Eric's address, but that he had given her directions for her to go to his house.  She described it as a nice house with blue trim and grey stone, three-story and very large with a two-car garage.  She stated that when she arrived, she glanced around and noticed Eric's black trench coat laying on the stairs.  She stated that she sees him in it outside of the school, but not in school.  She stated that he was acting "normal", sitting around.  He asked if she wanted to go downstairs and watch the movie and they, in fact, did move to the downstairs area.  They watched the movie straight through with no interruptions or phone calls and the movie ended at approximately 9:30 or 9:40PM.  After the movie was over, they talked briefly and the only time he left was to let the dog out and return and let the dog in and return.  We talked about other movies and made "small talk".  She stated that he mentioned Mike Dinkle again and that he seemed "hurt" rather than angry about hearing that Dinkle had talked about him and made fun of him. He described Dinkle as being a "jerk" that he did not like anymore.  He did not make any threats towards Dinkle, however.

She stated that his parents returned home at approximately 10:00 or 10:30PM and that his mother, and then father, came downstairs.  They talked for about five minutes and seemed nice.  Eric's mother shook her hand and Eric's father indicated that he got his hair cut at the Great Clips where she worked.  They then went upstairs and Eric asked her if she wanted to listen to some music.  They went into his bedroom, which was downstairs, and just off of the room where they were watching the movie.  She stated that his room had posters of bands and one of Jenny McCarthy.  She noted that he had a lot of CDs and that he made them off of the computer.  Asked about the type of music that he was listening to, she stated that some of the music was "soft and flowing" such as Enya but stated that some of the music had "anger expressed."  She stated that it was yelling and screaming.  She stated that she did not believe it was in any foreign lanugages or that profanity was used, but that there was lots of banging.  He described this as some of his favorites.  She stated that she was not familiar with any of the music of this nature.  In response to questions, she stated that the playing of this music did not seem to upset him.

She indicated that she saw soccer jerseys hanging in his room and asked if he played soccer.  He stated that he did, until recently, but had dropped out.  She asked if he played for Columbine High School and he stated, no and stated it in such a way that was somewhat exaggerated, but very definite that he had not played for the school.  She stated that they continued to sit on his bed listening to music.  She looked around his room and recalled seeing concert and movie ticket stubs stapled around his window.  She stated that she did not see anything in his room that she considered suspicious.  She stated that he received no phone calls during this time.  At one point, she asked him for an aspirin and he left the room to look for one for her because she had a headache.  Then, her sister paged her, which meant "get home".  She indicated that he made no effort to get up or to encourage her to leave, however.  She told him eventually that she needed to go home so she wouldn't get in trouble.  She stated that the page came in at approximately 10:30 and that she did not leave for approximately 30 more minutes.

Asked if he had initiated any type of intimate contact with her, and she stated that he put his arm around her once, but did not kiss her except to kiss her on the cheek when she left, as a way of saying goodbye.  He mentioned to her that she could go out and warm her car up and come back in until it was warm, but she stated that she better get home so she did not get in trouble.

On Sunday, 4/18/99, she stated she was working at Great Clips and Eric's father came in and said hello to her, calling her by name.  She stated that he seemed very happy.

In response to questions, she stated that Eric and his parents seemed to get along very well together.

She did not receive any calls from Eric on Sunday.  She saw him on Monday while walking to her car from school at approximately 10:15AM.  She stated that she looked over and saw him and another boy that she did not know and that they waved.  He walked over to talk to her while the other boy waited a short distance away.  She asked him what he was doing and he stated that he was ditching class. She stated that they talked for about five minutes and that he seemed like something was bothering him.  She described the other boy as being tall, with ear length, curly brown hair, and a black trench coat.  She stated that she did not know who he as but that he might be named "Nate". She could not recall any facial hair and could not recall the color of his pants or shirt.  She stated that she had to go and turned to walk away.  She turned around a short distance later to look back but could not see him anywhere.  She stated that he always seemed to do this, indicating that as she would walk away, she would turn and he would disappear.  She stated this was the last time that she saw Eric.

In response to questions. she stated that it was her habit to go home for lunch and return to the school at approximately 11:45AM and that Eric was aware of this because she would frequently see him while walking to her car to leave for lunch.

In response to questions, she stated that she did not know Dylan, but had heard of the "Trench Coat Mafia" around school. She thought that there were "a lot of them" and had two of them in a class last semester.  However, she stated that she rarely saw Eric hanging with them in a large group, only seeing him with one or two of them at a time.  She stated that he seemed to dress normal sometimes, as well.

She repeated that they met in January and could not recall ever seeing him before January around school, but then stated that she thought she had a computer class with him.

In response to questions, she stated that she did not recall seeing a computer in Eric's room or in his chome.  She did not recall seeing guns or anything related to explosive devices.

Asked if she knew anyone by the name of (redacted).  She staed that he knew a (redacted) from school and thought that he was a senior, but did not believe he was a "trenchcoat mafia" person, but might hang out with them.  She described him as being 5'9" or 5'10", heavyset, with dark brown hair cut in a "bowl" cut and very straight.  She stated that she saw (redacted) on the news Tuesday, 4/20/99 standing around near Fair and Marshall, wearing a striped shirt (horizontal stripes).  She stated that (redacted) had "hatred towards everyone" and would frequently make comments in class about people and was "not nice".  She was unaware of any nicknames that he might have.  She stated that he would frequently disrupt the class about something that someone in the class might say, making fun of them or belittling them.  She stated that (redacted) was friends with another boy, who always wore a black trench coat, had dark curly hair down to his shoulders and was very tall.  She stated that this boy had acne and body odor and wore black all of the time.  She stated that she did not know his name.

Asked about her time spent inside of Eric's bedroom and whether or not she had observed any Nazi or Hitler type items, she stated that she wasn't absolutely sure, but thought that he might have had a Hitler picture above his bed.  She did not recall seeing any tatoos or other markings on his body.

Asked about videos that he made, she stated that she was once in their computer tech lab and saw Eric and two other boys intently watching a video as she walked by.  She recalled that the video depicted boys Eric's age, wearing Army camouflage type clothing, and black bandanas around their hair, running with guns in a field.  She wa unsure as to who the boys were and was unsure whether Eric was in the video.  She stated that she saw this video about two weeks ago and had not discussed it with Eric.  She stated that they seemed to be very much "into it" as she walked by.  She again stated that the people in the video seemed to be running with some type of guns and that she ehard what sounded like fireworks going off.  She assumed that they were preparing a video for the "Friday showing", when individuals who make their own videos have them run on the closed circuit television system in the school, prior to announcments.  She stated tht she thinks she has seen Eric on other videos during the friday announcments in the past, but was not sure.

In response to questions, she stated that he did not express any thoughts on political views with the government and did not make any remarks about jocks or blacks.

Asked again about her brief conversation on Monday 4/19/99, with Eric at school, she stated that he seemed as though he as not concentrating on things and was anxious and irritated, as though something was disturbing him.  She noted this in only a five minute conversation.  She stated that the other guy was smoking and waiting for him, but did not speak to Eric or hurry him.

In response to questions, she stated that he never in any way warned her about going to school on Monday and that on Saturday night had offered to make her copies of a CD.

Asked if Eric owned a vehicle, she stated that he drove a grey Honda 4-door and older model, but that she had never been in it.  She stated that she saw it at his work, parked behind the building when he was working.

Asked about friends of hers who might know of any of the Trench Coat Mafia individuals, she stated that a girl in her third period choir class, Pauline Colby, used to hang with the Trench Coat Mafia but quit hanging aroudn with them because their "attitude scared her".  She indicated that she had no further information to provide.



Super interesting, Thanks Liz. Funny they redact the name of a supposed acquaintance, but leave Eric's room telephone number in there. Anyone want to give it a call Laughing, I kid.
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PostSubject: Re: highlights of the 11k   Mon May 02, 2016 9:56 pm

[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]. I wont call it lol! Funny enough most redacted things can be figured out by the context and several times they redacted a name but then missed it in the next sentence. High five team jeffco lol

Sorry for the typos though.

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PostSubject: Re: highlights of the 11k   Tue May 03, 2016 5:01 am

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[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]. I wont call it lol!  Funny enough most redacted things can be figured out by the context and several times they redacted a name but then missed it in the next sentence.  High five team jeffco lol

Sorry for the typos though.

No worries, and thats the story of Jeff Co, always messing something up. Looks like Dylan had a case of body odor too, Laughing
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PostSubject: Re: highlights of the 11k   Tue May 03, 2016 8:32 am

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[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]. I wont call it lol!  Funny enough most redacted things can be figured out by the context and several times they redacted a name but then missed it in the next sentence.  High five team jeffco lol

Sorry for the typos though.

No worries, and thats the story of Jeff Co, always messing something up. Looks like Dylan had a case of body odor too,  Laughing

Actually in this case I am pretty sure she is talking about Robert Perry. He looked pretty similar to Dylan according to people except he had terrible acne. They had diff hair cuts but hard to see under hats.

A lot of witnesses so far (in fact ones where Jeffco messed up the redacting) kids are saying that Perry was the second shooter alongside Eric, or that he was a third shooter just because they mistook Dylan for him.
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PostSubject: Re: highlights of the 11k   Thu May 05, 2016 10:25 am

Another interesting tidbit. I am currently reading thru the section of police and fire dept etc. On 7901-8000 there are several fire dept men who report similar frustrations with the day. Here is one report from page 40:
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This was the most difficult day of my career. To sit in staging for 5 hours listening to calls for more medics and medical equipment was unbearable and we did nothing. We could hear off duty personnel who had come to the scene, on the radio in assigned positions, working at the incident while we sat doing nothing. We watched and heard units from other departments in the scene, helping, and we did nothing. It is a widely held belief on A shift that if you weren't the initial units dispatched you had to be off duty or a member of another department to make it into this call. My frustration was the highest it has ever been in the 20 years in EMS. My morale is at the lowest.

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1) Communications between agencies. We were able to achieve minimal, between 3 of the 5 units.

2) No command of the group. This was left to the officers present. We were told we had been assigned a command however we could not reach him on the radio. Engine [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] was decided on as command. This left 3 aerial units free for fire attack. At no time during the incident did we have communication with our assigned command.

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PostSubject: Re: highlights of the 11k   Fri May 06, 2016 5:15 pm

Robyn Anderson's testimony on the gun purchases:
8201-8300 Page 16:

1) Anderson's interview details

2) Anderson stated that in December 1998, on a Sunday, she was contacted via telephone by Dylan Klebold who asked her if she would be willing to get them into the gun show at I-25 and 58th Avenue. Anderson stated that she would and Klebold and Harris came to her house to pick her up and bring her to the gun show. Anderson stated that it appeared from conversation with Harris and Klebold that they had been at the gun show the day before looking around. This would have been Saturday. Anderson further states that Klebold and Harris picked her up at approximately 10:00 AM

3) Anderson stated that Klebold and Harris had been searching the gun show for private dealers so that they would not have to complete any paperwork. According to Anderson, after entering the gun show, Klebold and Harris went directly to a private dealer. The dealer asked Klebold and Harris if they had brought someone 18 years old this time. Klebold and Harris stated that they had. Anderson states that she showed her drivers license to this individual and after reviewing it, handed it back. According to Anderson, Harris and Klebold asked the individual if he has anything shorter than the shotgun they were looking at and the individual tells them that they can cut down the barrel. Anderson explained to S/A Motte that the gun was long and the individual was saying they could cut it down to the first barrel ring. As if to cut it down to the shortest length of not less than 18 inches. Anderson stated that the price of the shotgun was over $100.00 but less than $300.00. Anderson stated that Klebold paid for this shotgun from money that he had in his wallet and that this shotgun was for Klebold himself.

4) Description given of the dealer, No receipt was given for the transaction

5) Anderson states that they walked around the gun show for a while looking for private dealers. They made contact with another private dealer and Eric Harris negotiated for a double-barreled shotgun. According to Anderson, Harris' money was clasped together with a large notebook binder clip and located in Anderson's purse. Anderson does not recall if she paid for the shotgun or if she gave the money to Harris to pay for the shotgun. The dealer did not ask for any identification nor was a receipt produced.

6) Description given of the dealer, Anderson further stated that this shotgun was for Eric Harris.

7) Anderson stated that the three of them wandered around the gun show some more and contacted another private dealer. This dealer was selling a black rifle. This individual asked to see identification and after viewing it and checking with a party at the next table for verification, gave it back to Anderson. Anderson stated that the rifle was in a box on the table with two magazine clips. Anderson stated that this purchase was transacted like the previous one with Eric Harris. Anderson had Harris' money on the binder clip and either she paid for the rifle or Harris did. She does not recall. Anderson could not describe this private dealer. Anderson stated that no receipt was produced by this private dealer.

Cool Anderson further stated that Harris and Klebold bought more ammunition clips and ammunition from another individual's table. Harris also purchased a folding knife at another table.

9) Anderson stated that Eric Harris named one of the firearms purchased Arlene.

10) Anderson was asked if she knew any other attempts to purchase firearms by Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold to which she replied she did not.

11) Anderson drew a picture of the dealer locations

12) Anderson stated that after the purchases were made, she, Klebold, and Harris left the gun show andproceeded to Eric Harris' house. they dropped Harris off with his shotgun, rifle and merchandise and proceeded to her house. Anderson states that she drove her car to Dylan Klebold's house and Klebold drove his car into the garage. Klebold placed the shotgun under his jacket, grabbed his bag of merchandise and went up to his room. Anderson states that Klebold attempted to place the shotgun in a dresser drawer in his bedroom but it did not fit. He then tried to place it behind the toilet roll dispenser after it is removed but it did not fit. Anderson believes that it is eventually placed in Klebold's closet.

13) Anderson states that she recalls the date of the purchase of these firearms as being in December because she and Klebold were planning to study calculus at his house because the finals for that class were December 16 and 17 with a make up day of December 18 1998. Anderson believes that the date of the purchase would have to be December 13 1998.

14) Anderson was shown a picture from the newspaper which depicts the 9mm carbine and stated that it is the rifle purchased by Eric Harris.

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PostSubject: Re: highlights of the 11k   Tue May 10, 2016 10:51 am

Testimony from Police about Dave Sanders
Pg 8501-8600 Pg 8

I also came upon 2 male students helping a teacher who had been shot. We had the students evacuate and I stood by with the teacher. The teacher identified himself as Sanders. I observed 2 gunshot wounds (entry) and 1 exit wound. I also observed that Sanders was missing what appeared to be 2 upper front teeth. There was also a large quanitity of blood on the floor around Sanders.

I applied pressure bandages to Sander's wounds and advised dispatch to send medics to my location and advised them of my situation involving Sanders. Dep Whitus and myself moved Sanders from the classroom I found him in to the first room we first made entry into. At about this time a paramedic Laman arrived at our location. Laman told Dep Whitus and myself that Sanders was dead.



I have not come across Whitus' testimony yet but it sure seems off. He was alive, they moved him and a paramedic came and told them he was dead? How much time had elapsed? It is sad and fishy

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PostSubject: Re: highlights of the 11k   Tue May 10, 2016 3:48 pm

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I also came upon 2 male students helping a teacher who had been shot.  We had the students evacuate and I stood by with the teacher. The teacher identified himself as Sanders.  I observed 2 gunshot wounds (entry) and 1 exit wound.  I also observed that Sanders was missing what appeared to be 2 upper front teeth.  There was also a large quanitity of blood on the floor around Sanders.

I applied pressure bandages to Sander's wounds and advised dispatch to send medics to my location and advised them of my situation involving Sanders.  Dep Whitus and myself moved Sanders from the classroom I found him in to the first room we first made entry into.  At about this time a paramedic Laman arrived at our location.  Laman told Dep Whitus and myself that Sanders was dead.



I have not come across Whitus' testimony yet but it sure seems off.  He was alive, they moved him and a paramedic came and told them he was dead?  How much time had elapsed?  It is sad and fishy

OK here is Witus' testimony PG 8501-8600 on pg 74

We were advised of an injured person in this room. Upon entering the room I observed 50 to 60 students in the room and a teacher laying on the floor. There were approx 3 or 4 students near the teacher.

Deputy Beaulieu and I cleared the room by sending the students out the stairway doors to Sgt Williams' location. Deputy Beaulieu was holding t shirts on the teacher's wounds. Deputy Beaulieu advised dispatch of the teacher's injuries and asked for medical.

I held the rooms and the hallway as we waited for medical. Due to the fact the rooms were unsecure Deputy Beaulieu and I put the teacher on to a chair. I pulled the teacher thru the two rooms and Dep Beaulieu held him as we got to the science room nearest the stairway so medical could get to him. We placed the teacher on to the floor and I held t shirts on his wounds and talked to him until he could no longer talk.

A DG Medic arrived and told me the teacher had no pulse and there was nothing we could do for him.
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PostSubject: Re: highlights of the 11k   Wed May 11, 2016 11:56 am

On 8601-8700 PG 44

A detective was interviewing Patrick Ireland's father and he stated this:

According to Mr Ireland, Patrick has made sporadic statements that include "Face the angered, trying to kill you", "poor family", "killed us dead", "TNT-I'm dynamite", "31 flavors" and "I hate Dillon and Eric."

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PostSubject: Re: highlights of the 11k   Mon May 16, 2016 10:40 am

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Melissa Chavez
Melissa began by explaining that she has never been a student at Columbine High School. She said she knew of prior planning of the "bombing" as she had overheard Eric Harris and five other boys planning what they were going to do.

Melissa said she had first met Harris and Klebold at the Funplex Arcade, on Coalmine and Kipling in 1997 possibly during the "warm" summer months. She said she had become an aquaintence of theirs, seeing them only at Funplex about 15 to 25 separate times over the years following. She described them as always wearing black clothing, but that they did not wear the black trenchcoats for the first few months she knew them.

Melissa added that Harris and Klebold were a few other boys about their age when she met him, some of which were also wearing black clothing. Melissa said Harris and Klebold were almost always together when she saw them at Funplex. She added that Harris was "really cool" and that she knew him better as he spoke with her more than Klebold. She also added that Klebold appeared to want to keep her out of their group. Melissa said that Harris spoke frequently of suicide and told her how his life "sucked" because people picked on him. She could not provide who was picking on Harris or where this was occurring. She added that she felt she had talked Harris out of killing himself several times.

On approximately July of 1998, which was about the fifth time she saw Harris and Klebold at Funplex, they were again with four other boys that they were there with often. Melissa described the group of six boys as sitting next to the area she was inside Funplex. She said she overheard some of their conversation as they were talking about where they were going to place the "bombs" inside the "school" and were pointing to a "map". She described this map as being a standard size piece of paper (8.5x11) and thought it looked handdrawn. Her perception was that this map was of the school as they were talking about where they were going to place the bombs in the school. After hearing this she said they left Funplex. Melissa said at no time did they discuss anything with her about their plans. Melissa could not provide any names for the 4 other boys as she did not know them as well as Harris and Klebold. She again added that most of the boys were wearing black when she saw them.

Melissa said she last saw Harris about five months ago at Funplex. She said she didn't stay long due to curfew as it was about 10:45pm. She said on this occasion Harris was again with Klebold and two other boys she didn't know.

Melissa volunteered that she has "felt bad" about having heard them planning the bombing and didn't do anything about it. She said she did not have any contact with anyone over the internet and that they do not have a computer in their home. She also denied being at Columbine High School the day of the shooting nor did she know anyone talking about having been there.


I have seen many references to this "Melissa" and people not knowing who she was. I believe this is the Melissa I have seen referenced.

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PostSubject: Re: highlights of the 11k   Mon May 16, 2016 11:33 am

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Testimony when searching Eric's house:
"Also seized were high school photographs of Eric Harris along with his graduation announcements which were located on the dining room table."

Makes me feel sad for his parents

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PostSubject: Re: highlights of the 11k   Wed May 18, 2016 4:39 pm

9401-9500 PG 43 from OFC John Lietz on Matthew Depew:
I find this very sad because Matt seemed like a great guy!


On this date, at about 1100 hours, while working as the District Clerk, I received a call from Matthew Depew, Officer Wayne Depew's son. He stated he was at Columbine High School and someone was shooting all the students. I knew this school was in Jefferson County so I told him to hang up and call 911 to get emergency help on the way. I ran to my desk phone to call our dispatch and received a call back from Matthew Depew stating that the phones in the school could not call 911 and he could not call for emergency help. I then kept Matthew on the phone in one ear and grabbed my other phone calling 911 myself. I directed Denver 911 to transfer me to Jefferson County 911. While doing this Matthew Depew stated he and other students were in the cafeteria area and an unknown number of gunmen were shooting students in the cafeteria right at that moment. I could hear shots being fired in the background. I have a daughter who is a student at the school so I knew some of the layout of the school. I asked Depew where he was in the cafeteria, since there are payphones only at the doorways to the cafeteria. I was told that Depew and the group he was with had run to the rear kitchen area.

I tried to pass information from Depew to Jefferson County over the phone as the suspects were continuing to shoot people. Matthew Depew remained remarkably calm and told me that he and about 20 others (later found to be 18 total) had run into the office in the kitchen and were hiding there. He gave me a physical description of the one suspect he had seen. I gave this information to Jefferson County and heard it passed over their police radio for their officers in the field to use. Over the next two to two and a half hours I spoke with Depew and kept him on the phone with me while I spoke to Jefferson County Communication Manager Randy Smith and Lieutenant Jeff Shrader. During the two hours Depew kept me appraised of the suspect's movements in the area and kept th eother seventeen people with him calm. Several times the suspect(s) came to the door and tried to shoot these people and I could hear the suspect(s) pounding and shooting at the door, unsure if anyone was inside. I had Depew talk to everyone constantly in a soft voice to keep them quiet and calm. I had Depew describe the office he was in so I could direct some sort of barricade to be placed against the door. He described an office with one desk with a computer on it and three chairs. At first, about six people were holding the door closed with their feet, and said the office was filled with people so there was not a lot of room to move around. I asked Depew to try and have a chair placed agains the door knob since it could not be locked. Depew told me tat the group did find sacks of flour etc to put against the door. I was told that about 200 pounds of items were put against the door. I coordinated with Jefferson County to make sure people gaining entry to the room where these victims were hiding were police. The suspects attempted entry numerous times and shots were fired in the area and possibly into the room. At one point I could hear the suspect(s) shooting in volleys of 4 with what Depew described as a shotgun. It sounded as though the suspect(s) were walking around the cafeteria "re-shooting" anyone down to ensure they were dead. The grouping of rapid shots were as though all four series of shots were directed at one target. The suspects were so close to Depew and his group that I could hear the suspect(s) loading and "racking" their weapon over the phone. Depew was very quietly describing to me that the suspects were shooting anything that moved or made noise. At that point Depew was certain he was going to die and asked me to tell his father he loved him. I constantly had Depew maintain control and told him that if the gunmen came into the room everyone should remain quiet and not talk. I told Depew to hold up the phone and ask the gunmen to speak to me if they came inside. I also directed Depew to plan an attack if necessary and to have several students try and hit the gunmen with chairs if it was apparent he was going to shoot. Depew volunteered to be the person to try and get the shotgun if it came to that.

Depew helped keep everyone in his group quiet and down for the entire time, even though when it was later learned to be guns and bombs were going off around them, two of Depew's group got so scared they tried to run out for help. At one point another person tried to get in the door but it was unknown whether this person was a suspect or not. He gave his name to Depew but even Depew realized that sudent might be a hostage of the gunmen and Depew maintained control of the group and did not move the barricades to allow this person inside.

During the time the SWAT teams were moving in, the mood in the room became very difficult with two mentally challenged members of the group trying to yell out and get out of the room. Again Depew helped direct his group to maintain order until they could be removed safely. Depew constantly followed my directions to have the group breathe easy and remain quiet no matter what happened. At several points when it sounded like the suspect(s) were no in the area Depew made the group hush up when they felt the situation was over and started talking loud, laughing, etc. Due to the knowledge Depew learned from his father, a former Denver SWAT member, Depew was able to describe to the group what would be happening with the police and why it was taking so long to get the group to safety. I added information for Depew as needed by he maintained a professional manner at all times. At one point, early on in the situation, Depew spoke with two of the group that are friends of my daughter to answer my questions about whether my daughter had been shot. That allowed all of us to work together with a common bond to survive that continued throughout the incident.

Jefferson County Communications assisted me during the entire time and gave me the suggestion to get phone numbers of the 18 people's family members so they could be told everyone was alright. That suggestion bought me some valuable time and helped keep the group busy and quiet while officers worked to clear the school. I had already had Depew pass a paper around with everyone writing down their names and had given this information to Jefferson County so I had him add phone numbers. (I later tried to call everyone's family on the list but only spoke to 2 or 3 Everyone else had left for the school and could not be reached by phone.) The list I made of victims, phone numbers and family names is attached to this letter.

I feel that Matthew Depew is responsible for saving the lives of himself and the seventeen people with him, by his responsible actions and even knowing to call Denver Police when the phones would not connect him to 911. If Denver Police can give the lifesaving award to Matthew Depew there is no doubt in my mind, while listening to the suspect(s) shoot into the room, that he deserves this award eighteen times over.

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PostSubject: Re: highlights of the 11k   Tue May 24, 2016 5:08 pm

Interview with Staff Sergeant Gonzales who Eric talked to about enlisting: PG 10085
On 4-28-99, SGT Les Williams and Det Tom Hayes met with Staff Sergeant Mark F Gonzales at the Marine Corps Recruiting Service. Staff Sergeant Gonzales is a Marine Recruiter and had contacted Eric Harris through a list of seniors provided by Columbine High School. Staff Sergeant Gonzales stated that he orginally contacted Harris by telephone on 4-2-99 at Harris' home telephone. Harris told Gonzales that he was planning to attend college but was interested in the Marine Corp. Gonzales asked Harris what his interests included during his intitial interview. Harris told him that he was interested in computers, soccer, and weapons. Harris said that he got A's and B's in school and that he worked at the Black Jack Pizza near the Cooper 7 theatres near S Wadsworth and Bowles Ave. Harris also told Gonzales during this initial interview that he had never done any drugs.

Gonzales set up an appointment for Harris to come into the Littleton office for futher interview and testing on 4-599 at 1300 hrs. Gonzales said that Harris did keep this appointment and showed up driving a Toyota or Nissan with a "Rammstein" sticker on the rear window. Harris was dresssed in black combat boots, black trousers and a black t shirt with the word, "Rammstein" on the front. Gonzales recognized this as a German rock group. Harris took the initial screening test given to all recruits and scored a 46. According to Gonzales this is an average score. During an interview following the test to determine his areas of interest, Harris was given several tags which were labeled with different attributes. Harris chose three tags which were labeled physical fitness, leadership and self reliance, and sefl discipline and self direction. Harris indicated that he was interested in the infantry and was particularly interested in the types of weapons, training and use of demolitions. At the conclusion of the interview, Harris wanted to think about enlisting and wanted to talk to his parents about the decision.

On 4-8-99 at 1300 hours, Harris returned to Littleton recruiting office and spoke with Gonzales. Harris again said he wanted to think about enlisting and wanted to discuss it with his parents. Harris arranged for a home visit by Gonzales on 4-15-99 at 1800 hours.

on 4-14-99 Gonzales went to Black Jack Pizza at approx 1900 hours to contact Harris. Harris reconfirmed his appointment with Gonzales for a home visit on 4-15-99. On 4-15-99 Gonzales received a telephone call from Harris and he again reconfirmed his home visit for 1800 hours. At approx 1800 hours Gonzales arrived at the Harris' home and was met by Eric Harris and his father. Gonzales had a casual conversation with Mr Harris in reference to Harris' military career. During this conversation Eric's mother came downstairs and joined the conversation concerning the Marine Corp. The Harris' had questions concerning jobs in the Marine Corp and the delayed entry program. Eric's mother inquired as to Eric's eligibility if he was currently taking an anti depressant. Eric's mother retrieved a bottle of pills from upstairs so that Gonzales could identify the drug and check on the eligibility status. Gonzales looked at the prescription bottle and copied the name of the drug, Luvox. Gonzales told the Harris' that he would check on Eric's eligibility status and call them back. He did not tell the Harris' that he was not eligible at this time because he wanted to further check with the Marine Corp. Either the following day Friday 4-16-99 or on Saturday 4-17-99 Gonzales left a message on Harris' home telephone for him to call. This telephone call was not returned and Gonzales had no further contact with Harris. Gonzales said that Harris was never notified that he would not be eligible for entry into the Marine Corp.



So even though he was never notified officially I am pretty sure Eric knew he wasn't getting in.

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PostSubject: Re: highlights of the 11k   Tue May 24, 2016 5:36 pm

Hey [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] thank you very very much for this. Answered quite a couple of thoughts i had. Thanks girl.

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PostSubject: Re: highlights of the 11k   Tue May 24, 2016 5:40 pm

Do you think Eric knew he wasn't getting into the Marine Corp because of his anti-depressant intake or, he just knew he wasn't on par. Seemed like he was acing his tests fine or whatsoever.

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PostSubject: Re: highlights of the 11k   Tue May 24, 2016 5:47 pm

I just realized Matt Depew was the one who passed away due to an accident. RIP
That's sad..

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PostSubject: Re: highlights of the 11k   Wed May 25, 2016 8:22 am

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Yes Matt Depew was the man who was electrocuted while working. He sounds like he was a great guy.

And I think Eric knew he wasn't getting in once his mom showed the Marine SGT the drug. I know he said he would have to look up the drug to be sure, but I think everyone knew. Maybe it was one of the last tiny pushes

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