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PostSubject: Re: Footage of them placing the bombs?   Sat Jun 25, 2016 5:51 am

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Ha! Yes, I have been following this post since it has been published.  Everyone brings up great points for and against my claim.  

Great discussion so far!

Great video by the way! Really amazing stuff.

Have you seen footage of Dylan leaving the cafeteria after he planted the bomb?
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PostSubject: Re: Footage of them placing the bombs?   Sat Jun 25, 2016 6:05 am

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Ha! Yes, I have been following this post since it has been published.  Everyone brings up great points for and against my claim.  

Great discussion so far!

Great video by the way! Really amazing stuff.

Have you seen footage of Dylan leaving the cafeteria after he planted the bomb?  

Thank you!!!

I haven't, though I am still looking. :\
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PostSubject: Re: Footage of them placing the bombs?   Sat Jun 25, 2016 6:36 am

So if this has actually been discovered, by amateur eyes, then what does that say about investigators at the time? and the alleged tape change? I mean I know this isn't really an unsolved case so we got "newfound" evidence but, it's such a critical observation that paints a new picture in our minds of 4/20.

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PostSubject: Re: Footage of them placing the bombs?   Sat Jun 25, 2016 8:20 am

I'm now convinced that it's them. Now I need to rethink the timeline.

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PostSubject: Re: Footage of them placing the bombs?   Sat Jun 25, 2016 11:54 am

That is them. 100%.
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PostSubject: Re: Footage of them placing the bombs?   Sat Jun 25, 2016 1:12 pm

Christmas came early ~

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PostSubject: Re: Footage of them placing the bombs?   Sat Jun 25, 2016 4:16 pm

I posted the link to the original video on the forum's Facebook page. I did give credit to the creator.

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PostSubject: Re: Footage of them placing the bombs?   Sat Jun 25, 2016 4:49 pm

Great!
Overall, the final touch of dissecting the clips fits, those of which are that the footage of Eric walking away WITHOUT the bag really is the usual stance Eric has; side to side, swinging his arms incessantly. I actually noticed that the first time I watched CVA's video before I agreed it was him. and secondly the obvious one for Dylan's footage, he's holding the bag with his left hand. Our boy's a leftie as we know it. and that walk? That's the significant Dylan walk. I can't believe it, congrats [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.], thanks very much for pointing it out and sharing it, I wonder what made you absolutely sure and ready to publish this? Overall this is great, the Columbine community is giddy all over the place hahah.

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PostSubject: Re: Footage of them placing the bombs?   Sat Jun 25, 2016 4:55 pm

Btw Mods wanna sticky this thread?

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PostSubject: Re: Footage of them placing the bombs?   Sat Jun 25, 2016 6:08 pm

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I can see it. They both got a bag slung over a shoulder, and a heavier bag being carried below. Dylan even has his in his left hand. Dylan's bag is much darker, Eric's bag is lighter. Eric appears to bend down at the end of the clip like he's putting down one of the bags next to that column, which is where the fire starts up later on in the video.
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PostSubject: Re: Footage of them placing the bombs?   Sat Jun 25, 2016 6:36 pm

[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] correct, Eric's bag was orange, as seen on the crime scene photos aswell.

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PostSubject: Re: Footage of them placing the bombs?   Sat Jun 25, 2016 10:06 pm

I'm going to get in touch with Cleaning Columbine to see if there is any "cleaning" he can do.
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PostSubject: Re: Footage of them placing the bombs?   Sat Jun 25, 2016 11:23 pm

I'm currently in one of my less-obsessed with Columbine phase, but seeing this on Facebook blew my mind. I am still not 100% sure about Eric, but as many have said, Dylan had a distinct style of walking that makes me quite convinced that this is, in fact, him. Wow. Great find, [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.].
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PostSubject: Re: Footage of them placing the bombs?   Sun Jun 26, 2016 12:19 am

Yes, I definitely think that's them. This comment right here seals the deal ----

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It does look like Dylan even carrying the duffel bag with his left hand.

Thinking of the little things! Smile

I can't believe this went unnoticed for so long. You would think the cops would have dissected these tapes.
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PostSubject: Re: Footage of them placing the bombs?   Sun Jun 26, 2016 12:59 am

Wow. Great work CVA. I am convinced.

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PostSubject: Re: Footage of them placing the bombs?   Sun Jun 26, 2016 4:40 am

I've just seen that video this morning. Great job JEFFCO... cheers

I'm pretty sure it's them.

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PostSubject: Re: Footage of them placing the bombs?   Sun Jun 26, 2016 7:14 am

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I'm currently in one of my less-obsessed with Columbine phase, but seeing this on Facebook blew my mind. I am still not 100% sure about Eric, but as many have said, Dylan had a distinct style of walking that makes me quite convinced that this is, in fact, him. Wow. Great find, [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.].

Eric was bowlegged and that definitely looks like a bowlegged person walking.


Look at when Eric walks in this video: [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]



It's him.
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PostSubject: Re: Footage of them placing the bombs?   Sun Jun 26, 2016 11:07 am

Great find. I remember an older documentary (I believe a British one although I could be wrong) that claimed you could clearly see them in the cafeteria planting the duffle bags but could never see it.

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PostSubject: Re: Footage of them placing the bombs?   Sun Jun 26, 2016 4:29 pm

Dylan walked awkwardly, it's hard to describe but after watching all the video of him walking he'd like put out a foot first that was pointed sideways, then he'd lift his other leg up and slowly move it in front of the other leg, balancing all his weight on the one leg that's pointing sideways then lift the other one over in front of the other with his knees really close together. Well that guy in the video does that also.

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PostSubject: Re: Footage of them placing the bombs?   Sun Jun 26, 2016 4:56 pm

So the boys took turns with their placements in a matter of seconds. How would one person not notice that at least? Maybe I'm being too lenient, I mean a bunch of high school kids in a cafeteria are ignorant as ever and unfortunately both boys had always been invisible within a crowd, this is probably another random day to everyone. And I think most reports share the sentiment that the bags look like any other possible jocks' sports bag.

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PostSubject: Re: Footage of them placing the bombs?   Sun Jun 26, 2016 5:01 pm

I bet they chose the plaid jackets to look natural. The fact nobody noticed them placing bags down and timing the clocks inside was probably because they all just thought it was students with sport or video production equipment, a few minutes before Eric walks in you can see two teachers carrying equipment through the cafeteria also. But yeah just goes to show how invisible and unimportant these two guys were to the rest of the school for nobody to take notice to what they were doing.

Does anybody know if the police said about how much all that equipment weighted? at one point they said it would have been impossible for them to carry it in without help.
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PostSubject: Re: Footage of them placing the bombs?   Sun Jun 26, 2016 5:11 pm

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Does anybody know if the police said about how much all that equipment weighted? at one point they said it would have been impossible for them to carry it in without help.
Hence Eric's wobbly difficulty as can be seen in the vid which I thought initially, plus a combination of not hitting anyone with it.

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PostSubject: Re: Footage of them placing the bombs?   Sun Jun 26, 2016 5:14 pm

That day is probably the one day they're thankful nobody gave a shit about them. After dropping it off it must've been glee in their minds like hah, man if you only knew what's in there.
(despite, you know, it failing.)

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PostSubject: Re: Footage of them placing the bombs?   Sun Jun 26, 2016 6:46 pm

What a find! Has anybody had any luck attempting to follow them further throughout the tapes? I think I've had some luck following the supposed Dylan since his unique gait and height make him easier to spot but after tape switches views a couple of times I lose him.

EDIT: Here's what I'm talking about - looks very blurry but playing the original at .25x speed you should be able to spot him. No idea if I'm even looking in the right spot but this person does have a long stride.

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PostSubject: Re: Footage of them placing the bombs?   Sun Jun 26, 2016 8:16 pm

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I think this is Dylan leaving. It looks like this person just got up, he is tall and he is walking alone. If that is Dylan he was there for little over a minute. Eric was there for about one and a half.
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PostSubject: Re: Footage of them placing the bombs?   Tue Jun 28, 2016 4:49 am

If the guys were bottom of the school food chain,without the Trenchcoats you can be almost certain they were unnoticed ,plus,not that anyone seems  in doubt,but if you watch Dylan come in,as his head moves across the pillar,you can make out the definition of the cap,and the wedge of his hair angling out.

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PostSubject: Re: Footage of them placing the bombs?   Tue Jun 28, 2016 7:06 pm

For some reason, I tend to believe this is them placing the bombs. The video of Eric is not as convincing as the video of Dylan, whose gait and demeanor seem unmistakable. If I'm to believe that is actually Dylan then I must also believe that is Eric, based on clothing and the heavy duffel bag he's lugging through there. How did the police miss this?

Excellent find by the way!
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PostSubject: Re: Footage of them placing the bombs?   Wed Jul 13, 2016 12:33 am

Okay so It just got around on Tumblr, I won't state the blog name yet until I'm sure everyone has already seen it or confirmed it but there's a follow up to the footage of them placing the bombs through gif context of Eric crouching (placing the bag down I'd assume) and then getting up, followed by another gif in a different angle of him walking away. It looks like him. Anyone seen it? Can I insert the gif here with source?

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PostSubject: Re: Footage of them placing the bombs?   Wed Jul 13, 2016 8:44 am

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Okay so It just got around on Tumblr, I won't state the blog name yet until I'm sure everyone has already seen it or confirmed it but there's a follow up to the footage of them placing the bombs through gif context of Eric crouching (placing the bag down I'd assume) and then getting up, followed by another gif in a different angle of him walking away. It looks like him. Anyone seen it? Can I insert the gif here with source?

IDK if you can insert it but I would love to see it. If it is against rules could you message me the link?
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PostSubject: Re: Footage of them placing the bombs?   Wed Jul 13, 2016 8:51 am

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