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PostSubject: Re: Footage of them placing the bombs?   Wed Jul 13, 2016 9:01 am

I def think that the walking away is Eric. I am not sure about the getting up quite yet but am going to study it a bit more. It took me forever to even see him lol

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PostSubject: Re: Footage of them placing the bombs?   Wed Jul 13, 2016 9:02 am

Just a quick question for those that have seen it, if it is him...why is he there and not by a pillar? Wouldn't be by a pillar? That person getting up appears to be at a table

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PostSubject: Re: Footage of them placing the bombs?   Wed Jul 13, 2016 9:05 am

I am of little knowledge of the exact tables of the bags, table markings in the cafeteria etc so, I am open for some help.

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PostSubject: Re: Footage of them placing the bombs?   Wed Jul 13, 2016 9:07 am

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I am of little knowledge of the exact tables of the bags, table markings in the cafeteria etc so, I am open for some help.

OK so here is a rough draft of the cafe. I put an X where I think this person in the gif may be. And the posts that they put the bombs by roughly are marked. I am still unsure[You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]
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PostSubject: Re: Footage of them placing the bombs?   Wed Jul 13, 2016 9:13 am

Thank you. Mmmm..I don't know. Maybe the finalised bag placement was a change of mind? Maybe eric thought to put it under a table first? But I'm also not saying that's him in the gif.
But the demeanour really looks like him and him walking away is only seconds after the first gif.

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PostSubject: Re: Footage of them placing the bombs?   Wed Jul 13, 2016 9:14 am

Which pillar in the diagram were the bags found?

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PostSubject: Re: Footage of them placing the bombs?   Wed Jul 13, 2016 9:19 am

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Which pillar in the diagram were the bags found?

IIRC the two middle ones in that photo. So close by but not right by that person in the gif
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PostSubject: Re: Footage of them placing the bombs?   Wed Jul 13, 2016 9:24 am

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IIRC the two middle ones in that photo. So close by but not right by that person in the gif
Oh okay thanks. You're right, they don't match up. But also like I said no confirmation that's Eric. But if it were him the only thing I can think of is, idk, bag placement moved.

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PostSubject: Re: Footage of them placing the bombs?   Wed Jul 13, 2016 9:37 am

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PostSubject: Re: Footage of them placing the bombs?   Wed Jul 13, 2016 9:45 am

So....what does it mean? I'm so sorry I have tried reading that statement numerous times. Were the bags moved?

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PostSubject: Re: Footage of them placing the bombs?   Wed Jul 13, 2016 9:52 am

ultraviolencelv wrote:
So....what does it mean? I'm so sorry I have tried reading that statement numerous times. Were the bags moved?

I am thinking it means what they thought were the bags in the video they saw were not really the bags. IF this is Eric placing a bag earlier then it would have been there at 11:14. But in their version it wasn't

Now they could have moved the bags but since we don't have footage or proof of any of that I am hesitant to believe it just yet. I need to read some more opinions before I can decide I think.
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PostSubject: Re: Footage of them placing the bombs?   Wed Jul 13, 2016 9:54 am

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I am thinking it means what they thought were the bags in the video they saw were not really the bags. IF this is Eric placing a bag earlier then it would have been there at 11:14. But in their version it wasn't
Oh ok ok I get it. Thanks. and Yeah I mean I pulled it out of my ass with the bag movement cause, if anything significant happened it would be on tape.

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PostSubject: Re: Footage of them placing the bombs?   Wed Jul 13, 2016 10:03 am

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I am thinking it means what they thought were the bags in the video they saw were not really the bags. IF this is Eric placing a bag earlier then it would have been there at 11:14. But in their version it wasn't
Oh ok ok I get it. Thanks. and Yeah I mean I pulled it out of my ass with the bag movement cause, if anything significant happened it would be on tape.

Since CVA posted this I have looked at that video of the cafe over and over trying to find things and I guess my eyes are just too old or I am too tired bc I cannot see much of anything!
But if you look here in this photo, this is Eric shooting at the bomb trying to detonate it...you can see he is kinda shooting toward that pillar. So I think the bomb was right by that pillar.
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PostSubject: Re: Footage of them placing the bombs?   Wed Jul 13, 2016 10:08 am

Okay. good one. and thank you. It really isn't that far off from the supposed person in the gif...I mean, what if it's just within that same spot.

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PostSubject: Re: Footage of them placing the bombs?   Wed Jul 13, 2016 10:40 am

Lizpuff wrote:
Just a quick question for those that have seen it,  if it is him...why is he there and not by a pillar?  Wouldn't be by a pillar?  That person getting up appears to be at a table
If you look at the crime scene photos, what's left of the bombs/duffel bags are near the table, not near the pillar.

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PostSubject: Re: Footage of them placing the bombs?   Wed Jul 13, 2016 10:41 am

Yea I mean the person in that gif appears to be just a table or 2 back or to the right of the pillar in the ss above. Its not that far off.

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PostSubject: Re: Footage of them placing the bombs?   Wed Jul 13, 2016 10:47 am

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Yea I mean the person in that gif appears to be just a table or 2 back or to the right of the pillar in the ss above.  Its not that far off.
Oh OK. I haven't seen the GIF you're talking about. I thought you meant the person who was supposed to be Eric. Just to clear up what I meant was I do not think Dylan and Eric placed the bags near the pillar. From the crime scene photos, it appears the bags were placed beside 2 different tables. I'm not sure the table numbers though.

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PostSubject: Re: Footage of them placing the bombs?   Wed Jul 13, 2016 10:50 am

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Lizpuff wrote:
Yea I mean the person in that gif appears to be just a table or 2 back or to the right of the pillar in the ss above.  Its not that far off.
Oh OK. I haven't seen the GIF you're talking about. I thought you meant the person who was supposed to be Eric. Just to clear up what I meant was I do not think Dylan and Eric placed the bags near the pillar. From the crime scene photos, it appears the bags were placed beside 2 different tables. I'm not sure the table numbers though.

Can either Ultra or I post the gif here?
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PostSubject: Re: Footage of them placing the bombs?   Wed Jul 13, 2016 11:16 am

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Lizpuff wrote:
Yea I mean the person in that gif appears to be just a table or 2 back or to the right of the pillar in the ss above.  Its not that far off.
Oh OK. I haven't seen the GIF you're talking about. I thought you meant the person who was supposed to be Eric. Just to clear up what I meant was I do not think Dylan and Eric placed the bags near the pillar. From the crime scene photos, it appears the bags were placed beside 2 different tables. I'm not sure the table numbers though.

Can either Ultra or I post the gif here?
Yes, but it cannot link back to the personal account of the person who posted it. You must open the GIF in a new tab and post that link. Right click on it, open the GIF in a new tab and post the link from the new tab only.

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PostSubject: Re: Footage of them placing the bombs?   Wed Jul 13, 2016 11:26 am

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PostSubject: Re: Footage of them placing the bombs?   Wed Jul 13, 2016 11:29 am

I hope that is ok

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PostSubject: Re: Footage of them placing the bombs?   Wed Jul 13, 2016 11:29 am

Thanks [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]. and Thank you [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] for posting the link. That's the gif right there for those who just came in reading. It's derived from Tumblr, there's the original source if you want you may PM me or Liz, I think it's spreading around by now. It's suppose to be Eric crouching down and then getting up after placing the bag.

We've been speculating if that's him and tying to the placement of bags plus the timing.

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PostSubject: Re: Footage of them placing the bombs?   Wed Jul 13, 2016 11:33 am

I can't help but notice, but from the way the guy squats and then gets up, it does look like Eric. He had a similar position in that Car Wax video when he was hitting the bike and trying to break it. Maybe it's just me.

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PostSubject: Re: Footage of them placing the bombs?   Wed Jul 13, 2016 11:35 am

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I can't help but notice, but from the way the guy squats and then gets up, it does look like Eric. He had a similar position in that Car Wax video when he was hitting the bike and trying to break it. Maybe it's just me.

Really? I will have to watch that again then
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PostSubject: Re: Footage of them placing the bombs?   Wed Jul 13, 2016 12:05 pm

Wow, I would definitely say that is him. The GIF is very clear, so mad props to whoever made it. But yea, I'd say it's him without a doubt. His body language and all. Does it fit in with CVA's time of Eric walking in and then walking out?

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PostSubject: Re: Footage of them placing the bombs?   Wed Jul 13, 2016 12:09 pm

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Wow, I would definitely say that is him. The GIF is very clear, so mad props to whoever made it. But yea, I'd say it's him without a doubt. His body language and all. Does it fit in with CVA's time of Eric walking in and then walking out?
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PostSubject: Re: Footage of them placing the bombs?   Thu Jul 14, 2016 12:44 am

I think they decided to plant them earlier than originally planned to insure they found empty tables. Neither boy was popular and they were pretty much known for being tied at the hip. It'd look more suspicious to drop bags off individually at seperate (and possibly occupied) tables once the lunch rush really started picking up.

That's most definitely them though. Very nice work finding this CVA!!!
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PostSubject: Re: Footage of them placing the bombs?   Thu Jul 14, 2016 1:50 am

ultraviolencelv wrote:
I can't help but notice, but from the way the guy squats and then gets up, it does look like Eric. He had a similar position in that Car Wax video when he was hitting the bike and trying to break it. Maybe it's just me.

That's the same thing I thought. And when he gets up he looks slightly bow-legged like Eric was.
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PostSubject: Re: Footage of them placing the bombs?   Thu Jul 14, 2016 4:43 pm

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PostSubject: Re: Footage of them placing the bombs?   Fri Jul 15, 2016 7:31 pm

I'd say it's definitely them. Their heights and unique ways of walking are unmissable. You can see that what's thought to be Dylan chooses to carry the heaviest bag in his left hand - this would be unusual for someone who was right handed. It looks to be Dylan's haircut too. Even if it's not them, some kids entered the Cafeteria at that time with bags and left without them - how often does that happen?
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