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PostSubject: Re: "I'm Not Ashamed" movie hits theaters on Friday, October 21   Sun Jul 10, 2016 2:18 am

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Craig scott posted a public post about that very point. The scott's have every right to memorialize their daughter however they please....it's not their job to do it for others.....and without permission.
I don't mean they ought to do the tribute for the other victims,
I'm saying I'd rather one of the others. And of course they can memorialise their Daughter however they want. They're doing it right now. This just won't be for everyone that's all, some'll like it some won't.



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PostSubject: Re: "I'm Not Ashamed" movie hits theaters on Friday, October 21   Sun Jul 10, 2016 3:48 am

And Yes, I already know her backstory. At least for me I had learnt everyone's story way back then when making an unsupportive stance. I guess I've heard quite a few unique encounters and lives in my lifetime to think that hers might just be a series of weird coincidences that tie along with Columbine to look like a strange foreshadow if you overthink it. As I've said, I stand by how I feel about this and the knowledge of how 4/20 went down and some will like the movie while some won't, and I will be thinking of the other victims who also deserve the attention let alone probably the only attention they'll get. It's all good.

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PostSubject: Re: "I'm Not Ashamed" movie hits theaters on Friday, October 21   Sun Jul 10, 2016 9:09 am

Could be the theme song for the movie?
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PostSubject: Re: "I'm Not Ashamed" movie hits theaters on Friday, October 21   Sun Jul 10, 2016 12:40 pm

I'm not trying to be mean at all, but I really don't think she's all that unique. My very own artwork when I was in high school and poems would have been every bit as foreshadowing as hers were I murdered. Lots of people say/think they won't live long, I feared death as a teenager and didn't feel like I would live beyond my teens. I think it's maybe not common, but certainly not unusual for people to feel that way. But, whatever, I could care less about this Disney movie.

@asloversgo Will the Scotts release just the portion of her autopsy detailing the gunshot wounds? If so, we can clear it up once and for all.
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PostSubject: Re: "I'm Not Ashamed" movie hits theaters on Friday, October 21   Sun Jul 10, 2016 8:48 pm

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I'm not trying to be mean at all, but I really don't think she's all that unique. My very own artwork when I was in high school and poems would have been every bit as foreshadowing as hers were I murdered. Lots of people say/think they won't live long, I feared death as a teenager and didn't feel like I would live beyond my teens. I think it's maybe not common, but certainly not unusual for people to feel that way. But, whatever, I could care less about this Disney movie.

[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] Will the Scotts release just the portion of her autopsy detailing the gunshot wounds? If so, we can clear it up once and for all.

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PostSubject: Re: "I'm Not Ashamed" movie hits theaters on Friday, October 21   Sun Jul 10, 2016 8:49 pm

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Could be the theme song for the movie?

that's it, yes
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PostSubject: Re: "I'm Not Ashamed" movie hits theaters on Friday, October 21   Sun Jul 10, 2016 8:59 pm

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I haven't read everyones comments but I can tell you a bit more since I have been in contact with their team. Craig Scott makes a cameo as a store cashier but it's true that he didn't know about the project right away.

It's about Rachel's life ONLY from journals and friends and her death is like 10 seconds of the entire movie. The churches that have shown it are saying that its surprising, it shows who rachel really was. It shows parties and drugs and her struggles as written in her journals.

Masey Mclain who plays Rachel was chosen by Rachel's mother and it took about a year for her to choose someone. Masey spent months with Beth and read all of Rachel's writings.

I am booking a screening here in Utah. You can buy a theater out, request tickets for groups etc. Our movie theaters are already showing the trailer.


Yes, but why put this false version of her death out there like this? I look forward to seeing her life portrayed and her families memories of her but knowing her death is portrayed so falsely puts a huge pall over the movie and will totally ruin it for some who know how she was really killed.

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PostSubject: Re: "I'm Not Ashamed" movie hits theaters on Friday, October 21   Sun Jul 10, 2016 9:03 pm

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I haven't read everyones comments but I can tell you a bit more since I have been in contact with their team. Craig Scott makes a cameo as a store cashier but it's true that he didn't know about the project right away.

It's about Rachel's life ONLY from journals and friends and her death is like 10 seconds of the entire movie. The churches that have shown it are saying that its surprising, it shows who rachel really was. It shows parties and drugs and her struggles as written in her journals.

Masey Mclain who plays Rachel was chosen by Rachel's mother and it took about a year for her to choose someone. Masey spent months with Beth and read all of Rachel's writings.

I am booking a screening here in Utah. You can buy a theater out, request tickets for groups etc. Our movie theaters are already showing the trailer.


Yes, but why put this false version of her death out there like this?  I look forward to seeing her life portrayed and her families memories of her but knowing her death is portrayed so falsely puts a huge pall over the movie and will totally ruin it for some who know how she was really killed.

I interviewed Richard Castaldo extensively so I have to politely disagree.
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PostSubject: Re: "I'm Not Ashamed" movie hits theaters on Friday, October 21   Sun Jul 10, 2016 9:23 pm

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I haven't read everyones comments but I can tell you a bit more since I have been in contact with their team. Craig Scott makes a cameo as a store cashier but it's true that he didn't know about the project right away.

It's about Rachel's life ONLY from journals and friends and her death is like 10 seconds of the entire movie. The churches that have shown it are saying that its surprising, it shows who rachel really was. It shows parties and drugs and her struggles as written in her journals.

Masey Mclain who plays Rachel was chosen by Rachel's mother and it took about a year for her to choose someone. Masey spent months with Beth and read all of Rachel's writings.

I am booking a screening here in Utah. You can buy a theater out, request tickets for groups etc. Our movie theaters are already showing the trailer.


Yes, but why put this false version of her death out there like this?  I look forward to seeing her life portrayed and her families memories of her but knowing her death is portrayed so falsely puts a huge pall over the movie and will totally ruin it for some who know how she was really killed.

I interviewed Richard Castaldo extensively so I have to politely disagree.


No offense because I am sure that Richard would not intentionally lie but he has told 3 different versions of events over the years. It's not his fault because he went through a huge trauma and people have asked him to repeat what happened over and over again but I feel he may be confused on what actually happened now.It's utterly understandable if he would be.

And I am a person that believes that Rachel had a special calling from God and a sense of her own destiny.

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PostSubject: Re: "I'm Not Ashamed" movie hits theaters on Friday, October 21   Sun Jul 10, 2016 11:30 pm

Ditto [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]. As someone who changes their story multiple times, I can't hold costaldo's account liable. All you need for proof on that actual day is the autopsy report on what sort of contact was made. Listen, anyone can go ahead and relish on this embellished movie in her honor, it's fine go ahead. Just not everybody will care for it or support it that's all. You can't push the movie to everyone.

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PostSubject: Re: "I'm Not Ashamed" movie hits theaters on Friday, October 21   Mon Jul 11, 2016 9:22 pm

I do want to say that I don't believe that the Scotts are lying. I believe that some of her family sincerely believes she was martyred.But the makers of the film should have looked into what happened more thoroughly. I believe they had a responsibility to do so which they failed at.

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PostSubject: Re: "I'm Not Ashamed" movie hits theaters on Friday, October 21   Mon Jul 11, 2016 10:30 pm

A few days after it happened Rich's mum left a voicemail of what Rich said as soon as he woke up. It's understandable that's the account they go by.
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PostSubject: Re: "I'm Not Ashamed" movie hits theaters on Friday, October 21   Mon Jul 11, 2016 10:46 pm

It's just that there is a lot of questions about her death.Richard said even later in '99 that he didn't remember anything like that original story, he has given more than one version of events over the years which as I said in an earlier post is understandable considering what he went through.I just think that since this is a definite story of her actual life, not just a character based on her,but her ,that it should be entirely accurate.

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PostSubject: Re: "I'm Not Ashamed" movie hits theaters on Friday, October 21   Tue Jul 12, 2016 4:46 pm

Probably won't bother with it. I tend to avoid things that I know will be shite.

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PostSubject: Re: "I'm Not Ashamed" movie hits theaters on Friday, October 21   Tue Jul 12, 2016 5:14 pm

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It's just that there is a lot of questions about her death.Richard said even later in '99 that he didn't remember anything like that original story, he has given more than one version of events over the years which as I said in an earlier post is understandable considering what he went through.I just think that since this is a definite story of her actual life, not just a character based on her,but her ,that it should be entirely accurate.

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this is what came of the interviews I did with Rich although the beginning goal was a book
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PostSubject: Re: "I'm Not Ashamed" movie hits theaters on Friday, October 21   Tue Jul 12, 2016 8:58 pm

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It's just that there is a lot of questions about her death.Richard said even later in '99 that he didn't remember anything like that original story, he has given more than one version of events over the years which as I said in an earlier post is understandable considering what he went through.I just think that since this is a definite story of her actual life, not just a character based on her,but her ,that it should be entirely accurate.

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this is what came of the interviews I did with Rich although the beginning goal was a book


Yes, I read that when the story first came out.With all due respect to Richard,that's the 3rd version of events that he has related.Again,I think that's understandable with what he went through but I think there is too much of a question by her death to have it portrayed this way.

I keep saying the same thing here and I don't want to drive my point into the ground so I will leave it at this for now.

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PostSubject: Re: "I'm Not Ashamed" movie hits theaters on Friday, October 21   Wed Jul 13, 2016 3:11 am

A friend of mine once referred to 8 Crazy Nights as a Halloween movie because "it's scary someone would greenlight that sh*t and that it would get made." I think this description fits I'm Not Ashamed very well.
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PostSubject: Re: "I'm Not Ashamed" movie hits theaters on Friday, October 21   Wed Jul 13, 2016 9:27 pm

If Rachel really died a martyr ,I want to see that acknowledged and her be given full credit for that but there is just so many questions and some of the evidence seems to point the other way.

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PostSubject: Re: "I'm Not Ashamed" movie hits theaters on Friday, October 21   Sun Oct 02, 2016 3:54 pm

This is on a few different sites, also has a still of the actor's as E&D.

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PostSubject: Re: "I'm Not Ashamed" movie hits theaters on Friday, October 21   Sun Oct 02, 2016 4:16 pm

Good. Boycott it. It's no surprise, it's probably the TC Community flagging any videos/promos of the movie and youtube is just acting accordingly. It's literally just that.
Sure it is nothing "offensive" and the producer of the movie is very determined to get promotions up but majority of the people don't support it for obvious reasons.

Most people would watch it for curiosity reasons but I definitely won't be there for the party.

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PostSubject: Re: "I'm Not Ashamed" movie hits theaters on Friday, October 21   Sun Oct 02, 2016 10:21 pm

Wouldn't surprise me if heaps of Columbine survivors flagged the videos and YouTube decided to just ban them all. You only had to look on survivors FB pages (Dave Sanders daughters, Christine Mauser, Richard Castaldo, etc) and the petition to see how much the movie release is effecting them. To be honest I'm surprised they didn't remove the scenes with Eric and Dylan after the backlash. Their part could have been told retrospectively through newspaper articles and news reports, something clever like that. Hell the movie could have ended with Rachel going to school on the 20th and a fade to black, with writing explaining she was 'gunned down because of her Christian faith' (regardless of how true or false this was).
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PostSubject: Re: "I'm Not Ashamed" movie hits theaters on Friday, October 21   Sun Oct 02, 2016 11:47 pm

Has anyone seen any tv commercials for this?
Are there going to be any?

So far I haven't seen anything.

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PostSubject: Re: "I'm Not Ashamed" movie hits theaters on Friday, October 21   Mon Oct 03, 2016 12:09 am

No and there won't be at all lol youtube don't even want it.

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PostSubject: Re: "I'm Not Ashamed" movie hits theaters on Friday, October 21   Mon Oct 03, 2016 12:16 am

@JuicyJazzy you couldn't have said it better. Honestly the producer seemed really pressed that he couldn't get what really looks like a vanity project than a biopic of rachel's life's out for promotion. Almost half the scenes are completely distasteful let alone untrue and even I'm baffled by how inaccurate the perpetrators are. I'm not suppose to be lolling looking at them. It's just a biased film. I shouldn't have to continue talking about this so yeah.

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PostSubject: Re: "I'm Not Ashamed" movie hits theaters on Friday, October 21   Mon Oct 03, 2016 12:32 am

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No and there won't be at all lol youtube don't even want it.

I heard something about that.That people were accusing YT of censoring the commercials because its a christian film.
I don't know how well it will do in the theaters but I am guessing that it will be out on DVD by late December or early to mid Jan.

That's an average turnaround for even a big budget movie these days.

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PostSubject: Re: "I'm Not Ashamed" movie hits theaters on Friday, October 21   Mon Oct 03, 2016 1:08 am

Seriously what is the point of this movie? I find it's a real waste of time and money.

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PostSubject: Re: "I'm Not Ashamed" movie hits theaters on Friday, October 21   Tue Oct 04, 2016 9:29 pm

Here is a new interview Rachel's Mom has given before the release of the film. Most of us won't agree with all her interpretations of events of Rachel's death, but I enjoyed hearing from her. The article also has  really clear pictures of Rachel's checkbook that was in her backpack that day.
If you look closely at the check you can see where she wrote out the check before it leaving an impression.

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PostSubject: Re: "I'm Not Ashamed" movie hits theaters on Friday, October 21   Fri Oct 07, 2016 9:33 pm

I wonder if there will be a spike in renewed interest in columbine after this movie comes out, much like there was briefly after Sue released her book...
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PostSubject: Re: "I'm Not Ashamed" movie hits theaters on Friday, October 21   Sat Oct 08, 2016 12:16 am

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Here is a new interview Rachel's Mom has given before the release of the film. Most of us won't agree with all her interpretations of events of Rachel's death, but I enjoyed hearing from her. The article also has  really clear pictures of Rachel's checkbook that was in her backpack that day.
If you look closely at the check you can see where she wrote out the check before it leaving an impression.

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Wow great find there! Lots of higher quality photos of some of the pics we've already seen. And a pic of her coffin just before her burial. Looks like she was interred at the same time as Corey?
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PostSubject: Re: "I'm Not Ashamed" movie hits theaters on Friday, October 21   Sat Oct 08, 2016 3:09 am

Without wanting to start a religion debate - how the hell can someone make a post demanding the facts are portrayed then follow it up in the next sentence saying Rachel had a calling from God?

Just let them get on with it. If you don't want to see the movie, don't watch it.
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