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PostSubject: Elliot Rodger vs Reb&Vodka   Sun Jul 17, 2016 2:01 pm

Well, I've read E&D diaries and Elliot Rodger's manifesto. There was a contrast between E and D but there is even greater between Elliot Rodger and them. I can't imagine what would happen if they all met in one place. Do you think that Elliot would treat them as "obnoxious guys" which he hated so much? We compare gentleman of english descent and rock/metal music fans. The only thing that they had in common was unrequited love. That's really interesting.
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PostSubject: Re: Elliot Rodger vs Reb&Vodka   Sun Jul 17, 2016 2:31 pm

Firstly I think Elliot Rodger is insane, hahah. From the bits I've learnt about his case, alot of people have tried reaching out to him to help him, but he wouldn't respond to it and he was somebody who's doomed for life. In fact I feel that Rodger might be worse off than E&D. He wouldn't see them as obnoxious guys, he would think they're all almost on the same boat with the way they hated the mainstream society and how girls overlook guys like them blahblahblah. The difference is E&D were actually pretty normal and they had friends and a fair amount of girls in their lifetime, Elliot hardly, he was TOO narcissistic. Elliot always thought of himself as perfect, "a supreme gentleman", whereas E&D actually regarded themselves as outcasts and imperfect and admit they're self-conscious. That's all I can think of for now.

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PostSubject: Re: Elliot Rodger vs Reb&Vodka   Sun Jul 17, 2016 2:36 pm

That's pretty interesting that Elliot and Reb fantasized about destroying the world. IMO Dylan was most normal of all.
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PostSubject: Re: Elliot Rodger vs Reb&Vodka   Sun Jul 17, 2016 9:24 pm

I am thinking this topic should fit here.
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PostSubject: Re: Elliot Rodger vs Reb&Vodka   Sun Jul 17, 2016 9:45 pm

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Well, I've read E&D diaries and Elliot Rodger's manifesto. There was a contrast between E and D but there is even greater between Elliot Rodger and them. I can't imagine what would happen if they all met in one place. Do you think that Elliot would treat them as "obnoxious guys" which he hated so much? We compare gentleman of english descent and rock/metal music fans. The only thing that they had in common was unrequited love. That's really interesting.
I think Eric and Dylan would have picked on Elliot had they gone to school together. They prided themselves on the fact they picked on the "faggots" and to them, that's all Elliot would've been. Remember: Eric and Dylan (although very unpopular) still had friends and associates -- Elliot had none.

Funnily enough, I find a lot of similarities between Elliot and Cho. There's still a few differences however, morein, Cho didn't mention his virginity as a reason for his rampage. Like Eric and Dylan, he used 'bullying' as an excuse. But they were both quiet, unassuming people who struggled making any sort of connection with anybody.

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PostSubject: Re: Elliot Rodger vs Reb&Vodka   Mon Jul 18, 2016 10:04 am

Elliot hated anyone who he considered beneath his status so I don't see them getting along. He'd probably try to throw his drink on them if his manifesto is any indication of how he interacted with people.
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PostSubject: Re: Elliot Rodger vs Reb&Vodka   Tue Jul 26, 2016 12:49 am

I think Eric and Dylan were more normal than Elliot in appearance. Elliot and Cho were more alike both wanted white girls who rejected them because they were crazy and there might be some racism going on in cho and elliot case because they were asian.

Elliot did have more friends than Cho it seems he had at least one good friend James, but Elliot wanted to recruit him into his nefarious plot.


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PostSubject: Re: Elliot Rodger vs Reb&Vodka   Tue Jul 26, 2016 12:52 am


And thus this guy James became concerned and would not be his friend anymore. I am not sure of Cho having any friends. Elliot sort of had some acquitances but toward the end of his life lost them all and descended into madness.
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PostSubject: Re: Elliot Rodger vs Reb&Vodka   Tue Jul 26, 2016 12:54 am

Cho might not have mentioned his virginity as a source of anger but it must have been a source I mean he tried to hire an escort and even a prostitute found him "creepy".
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PostSubject: Re: Elliot Rodger vs Reb&Vodka   Sat Sep 10, 2016 10:51 am

Cho and Rodger were very much alike. Cho had selective mutism and literally physically couldn't talk to others. Rodger's social skills were so poor that he walked around town for hours hoping someone would talk to him because he was incapable of initiating a conversation himself.

Not sure about Eric, but Dylan complained about his own shyness.

Both E/D and Elliot complained about bullying.
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PostSubject: Re: Elliot Rodger vs Reb&Vodka   Sat Sep 10, 2016 10:59 am

I can't see them getting along. Dylan and Elliot had a lot in common when it comes to love and stuff like that, but I think Dylan was way better when it comes to social interaction, he had multiple friend while Elliot had little to none. I think that E&D would have likely bullied Elliot had they shared the same school.

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PostSubject: Re: Elliot Rodger vs Reb&Vodka   Sat Sep 10, 2016 11:42 am

I think that Elliot would have felt even more intimidated at the sight of the two. Eric had a quick fuse, Elliot was full of anger too, but also he behaved in a more sophisticated manner. He was a cold calculator (strangely enough, I appreciated this side of him) though eventually he was bound to go ballistic; in the meantime E&D would have had plenty of occasions to mock him if they had wanted to.
I don't see them bonding much.
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