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PostSubject: Re: Likability: Eric Harris vs Dylan Klebold   Sat Aug 06, 2016 6:05 pm

I mean honestly after a couple of discussions, be it if it's in hindsight or not, I've always thought to myself that there's nothing completely wrong with the boys. In fact they're just like any other teenage guys if not better with how stable their lives were, how smart they were, they were funny, they probably looked better than most guys, they had potential...I really wished I knew why. Why couldn't they have sat back and thought about everything they should be grateful for, that everyone else goes through the same amount of insecurity and self-esteem issues, just a little bit more time to get the hell out of there and prosper to a young adult. Why the hell not? But who am I to say. The fault in their minds or the wiring of their brains didn't do them justice. If they felt they were doomed, no one could help them.

Unfortunately with their sense of entitlement it caused them to view the world like it did not treat them the way they should be or give them what they wanted, they are angry at everyone like it was everybody's fault, and yet they snap back to the other realisation where they end up hating themselves and kicking themselves for not being enough.

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PostSubject: Re: Likability: Eric Harris vs Dylan Klebold   Sat Aug 06, 2016 6:51 pm

A lot of it just boils down to basic teenage emotions I guess. You really don't have a whole lot of life experience at that age. They don't have the perspective to compare their lives to others'.

For example, one thing that really bothers me about Eric is how he had such a hard time dealing with loss. His family moving so much and him having to leave all his friends behind against his will really seemed to traumatize him. He himself described it as the worst feeling in the world. If he was so affected by leaving people behind and never being able to see them again, imagine how traumatizing it would be for him if someone he cared about passed away. I imagine him handling that far worse than just moving away from his friends. He even was frantic over his dog being sick and being worried that he would pass away.

I guess the point in trying to make is you would think for someone who was sensitive enough to be traumatized by loss, how could he go on to inflict that pain on others - including his own family, who he did seem to care about? I don't think he ever experienced the loss of anyone important to him due to death. I think if he knew personally how ultimately painful It is to mourn a death, he might have had second thoughts about nbk. It kinda goes to show the lack of perspective they had, and what most people with similar life experiences have at that age.
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PostSubject: Re: Likability: Eric Harris vs Dylan Klebold   Sat Aug 06, 2016 7:29 pm

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For example, one thing that really bothers me about Eric is how he had such a hard time dealing with loss. His family moving so much and him having to leave all his friends behind against his will really seemed to traumatize him. He himself described it as the worst feeling in the world. If he was so affected by leaving people behind and never being able to see them again, imagine how traumatizing it would be for him if someone he cared about passed away. I imagine him handling that far worse than just moving away from his friends. He even was frantic over his dog being sick and being worried that he would pass away.

I guess the point in trying to make is you would think for someone who was sensitive enough to be traumatized by loss, how could he go on to inflict that pain on others - including his own family, who he did seem to care about? I don't think he ever experienced the loss of anyone important to him due to death. I think if he knew personally how ultimately painful It is to mourn a death, he might have had second thoughts about nbk. It kinda goes to show the lack of perspective they had, and what most people with similar life experiences have at that age.

That's perfect. Thank you.

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PostSubject: Re: Likability: Eric Harris vs Dylan Klebold   Tue Aug 16, 2016 8:49 pm

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PostSubject: Re: Likability: Eric Harris vs Dylan Klebold   Wed Aug 17, 2016 1:46 am

Thank you [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]. I like your insight.

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PostSubject: Re: Likability: Eric Harris vs Dylan Klebold   Sun Aug 28, 2016 4:29 pm

Have we not had it confirmed that Dylan did stink? I wouldn't be surprised if he was always walking round in that coat and his big boots - especially in the summer
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PostSubject: Re: Likability: Eric Harris vs Dylan Klebold   Mon Aug 29, 2016 4:23 am

Lol I said before that Dylan might have stunk, or had a distinct smell at least, and his friends got so used to it that it didn't bother them esp Eric.

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PostSubject: Re: Likability: Eric Harris vs Dylan Klebold   Mon Aug 29, 2016 6:13 am

If I were to meet the two of them in my school I would probably see Eric as arrogant and ignorant.

I would probably stay aware from him and avoid conflict with him, I know afew people that remind me of him and I have done those things for them.

As for Dylan, I would probably be friendly towards him, if he was weird and awkward I would ignore it and be friendly. I know people like that as well and thats how I would react.

In relation to the proper question I think that Dylan to me seems more likable because he is sorta like that kid that things didn't go his way. As for Eric I see him as that kid that always wanted things to go his way but when they didn't things got messy.

I don't know what people who admire or take some sort of interest into them would think but from a researcher and purely researchers aspect I feel as if Dylan is the more likable one for the above reasons.

If you sympathized with them then maybe you might like Eric more as he has a lot of things to be sympathetic for.

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PostSubject: Re: Likability: Eric Harris vs Dylan Klebold   Mon Aug 29, 2016 8:36 am

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Have we not had it confirmed that Dylan did stink? I wouldn't be surprised if he was always walking round in that coat and his big boots - especially in the summer

He may have. His mother stated he was clean and if she did his laundry his clothing was probably clean. His hair did look pretty grubby though. We know he had cleaner fingernails than Eric though on the 20
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PostSubject: Re: Likability: Eric Harris vs Dylan Klebold   Mon Aug 29, 2016 11:04 am

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Have we not had it confirmed that Dylan did stink? I wouldn't be surprised if he was always walking round in that coat and his big boots - especially in the summer
Well if you count the nicotine then there's really not much left to explain.

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PostSubject: Re: Likability: Eric Harris vs Dylan Klebold   Mon Aug 29, 2016 11:07 am

Dylan must've smelt like nicotine/weed, natural hair grease and that musky men B.O that's not too terrible but just the kind you can get a whiff off of a t-shirt that hasn't been washed in two days.

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PostSubject: Re: Likability: Eric Harris vs Dylan Klebold   Mon Aug 29, 2016 1:16 pm

I wonder why so many people assume that Dylan had poor personal hygiene. (Not that I am convinced that he was absolutely neat and clean, just wondering.)
Yes, his hair looked untidy, but it was because he had just begun to grow it out - in this "already not short, but not long yet" phase, one's hair can look really messy. No matter how often you wash it. I experienced it myself.
But has anyone - who knew him in person - mentioned that he had an unpleasant body smell? At least, I haven't read about it.
Big boots and long coat at summertime - oh yeah, it is a common problem for dark souls (sorry for the irony, I experienced this problem too.) But is it really true that Dylan insisted on wearing these items, even when the weather was hot? Does Mrs.Klebold write anything about it? (It is more than possible that I failed to read the necessary docs.)
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PostSubject: Re: Likability: Eric Harris vs Dylan Klebold   Mon Aug 29, 2016 1:31 pm

I think I have read somewhere that classmates thought he had bad personal hygiene because of how he looked so, you're getting somewhere. Someone could just look grubby but they aren't. I haven't read an account yet that said he straight up stank.

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PostSubject: Re: Likability: Eric Harris vs Dylan Klebold   Mon Aug 29, 2016 1:35 pm

Awwwww, this says so much about prejudices. complaint
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PostSubject: Re: Likability: Eric Harris vs Dylan Klebold   Mon Aug 29, 2016 4:34 pm

I'm absolutely certain there were reports about him smelling foisty.
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PostSubject: Re: Likability: Eric Harris vs Dylan Klebold   Mon Aug 29, 2016 4:38 pm

Seriously this conversation is really starting to crack me up. Haha

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PostSubject: Re: Likability: Eric Harris vs Dylan Klebold   Mon Aug 29, 2016 8:37 pm

I think there are actual accounts from witnesses stating that Dylan had dirty/greasy hair. As far as smell goes, I read reports that several people confused Dylan with another kid named Robert Perry, who supposedly did have bad hygene. They said Robert Perry smelled like B.O. and apparently also had bad skin and teeth, so that could be where the bad smell rumor started?
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PostSubject: Re: Likability: Eric Harris vs Dylan Klebold   Mon Aug 29, 2016 9:06 pm

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I wonder why so many people assume that Dylan had poor personal hygiene. (Not that I am convinced that he was absolutely neat and clean, just wondering.)
Yes, his hair looked untidy, but it was because he had just begun to grow it out - in this "already not short, but not long yet" phase, one's hair can look really messy. No matter how often you wash it. I experienced it myself.
But has anyone - who knew him in person - mentioned that he had an unpleasant body smell? At least, I haven't read about it.
Big boots and long coat at summertime - oh yeah, it is a common problem for dark souls (sorry for the irony, I experienced this problem too.) But is it really true that Dylan insisted on wearing these items, even when the weather was hot? Does Mrs.Klebold write anything about it? (It is more than possible that I failed to read the necessary docs.)

His Mom said in her book that even thought she thought his hair looked unkempt that he always kept it clean.

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PostSubject: Re: Likability: Eric Harris vs Dylan Klebold   Mon Aug 29, 2016 10:35 pm

[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] is right. I am aware of the Robert Perry mix-up, so maybe the account of funky cold medina smell is robert and not Dylan.

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PostSubject: Re: Likability: Eric Harris vs Dylan Klebold   Tue Aug 30, 2016 12:52 am

Well I guess if you leave out the tobacco, Dylan smelled pretty natural as with any guy. I guess the scientific term for it would be pheromones?

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PostSubject: Re: Likability: Eric Harris vs Dylan Klebold   Tue Aug 30, 2016 12:58 am

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I guess the scientific term for it would be pheromones?

That, and Androstenol. "Androstenol is the scent produced by fresh male sweat, and is attractive to females." I love me a whiff of natural pheromones and androstenol LOL. No but really, men have a distinct natural odour of something like that and some more noticable than others. Does that mean they're more horny?

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PostSubject: Re: Likability: Eric Harris vs Dylan Klebold   Tue Aug 30, 2016 11:32 pm

Wasn't someone on this board in contact with Brooks Brown's parents at one point? Maybe they can get the parents to ask Brooks if he remembers anything about Dylan having an unpleasant smell haha. I think that's probably as close to knowing as we're gonna get unless someone else here has connections to people who actually knew Dylan.

But honestly I still stand by the theory that the smelly Dylan rumors came from him looking like he had dirty hair and people confusing him with that Robert Perry guy. I actually looked up a picture of Robert, and he does share a very slight resemblance to Dylan. I could see where people confused the two, especially since they were supposedly both around the same height and build and had long hair.
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PostSubject: Re: Likability: Eric Harris vs Dylan Klebold   Wed Aug 31, 2016 8:49 am

I guess I feel like Dylan would be a bit smelly because of his laziness. Wearing the same clothes, smoking, maybe not showering or cutting his hair....

Perhaps he really was clean though. We will never know.

Poor Robert Perry was always picked on though. I feel terrible for him.

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PostSubject: Re: Likability: Eric Harris vs Dylan Klebold   Wed Aug 31, 2016 11:19 am

I don't know if it's my imagination or not, but I think that time when brooks answered questions on tumblr- screenshots still online, didn't someone ask him what the boys smelled like and he said he didn't remember? As in I think someone asked him that actual question. But I could be making it up.

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PostSubject: Re: Likability: Eric Harris vs Dylan Klebold   Wed Aug 31, 2016 11:23 am

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I don't know if it's my imagination or not, but I think that time when brooks answered questions on tumblr- screenshots still online, didn't someone ask him what the boys smelled like and he said he didn't remember? As in I think someone asked him that actual question. But I could be making it up.

Someone asked and I can't remember the exact answer but he was quite sarcastic in his reply so I wouldn't take it too seriously.
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PostSubject: Re: Likability: Eric Harris vs Dylan Klebold   Wed Aug 31, 2016 11:28 am

[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] This thread. Scroll a little down, oh someone asked him what Eric smelled like and yup, sarcastic answer.

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PostSubject: Re: Likability: Eric Harris vs Dylan Klebold   Wed Aug 31, 2016 11:35 am

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[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] This thread. Scroll a little down, oh someone asked him what Eric smelled like and yup, sarcastic answer.

Ah right. Eric smelled like a huge sigh. He should know what he is in for opening a AMA on that site.
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PostSubject: Re: Likability: Eric Harris vs Dylan Klebold   Wed Aug 31, 2016 11:39 am

Lol a huge sigh though. He's such an ass hahaha

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PostSubject: Re: Likability: Eric Harris vs Dylan Klebold   Wed Aug 31, 2016 11:41 am

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Lol a huge sigh though. He's such an ass hahaha

He wants to be in the spotlight so he opens that AMA then gets annoyed when the fangirls want to ask him questions like that. I do find him hilarious sometimes though.
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PostSubject: Re: Likability: Eric Harris vs Dylan Klebold   Wed Aug 31, 2016 12:01 pm

Ya know I wonder if Sue realizes all the fangirls her late son has garnished. Do you think she would be amused and entertained or disgusted?

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