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PostSubject: Dylan actually religious???   Dylan actually religious??? Icon_minitimeSat Jun 13, 2015 11:07 am

Ok so I know this is dumb but I find myself re-reading cullenbine... Something that caught my attention and kind of pisses me off is cullen claims that Dylan was religious in one sentence and then in the very next one says that his family wasn't active in church... Now while I believe whole heartedly that Dylan believed in an after life, I've been under the impression that he wasn't religious at all.... I know it's probably been discussed before but this is seriously bothering me
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PostSubject: Re: Dylan actually religious???   Dylan actually religious??? Icon_minitimeSat Jun 13, 2015 1:53 pm

Maybe when he was younger but as he got older, all he did was mock religion. The "I am god" or "what would jesus do?" gives his beliefs away but we are entitled to have multiple beliefs depending on our moods I guess which is another reason why religious debates will never end.
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PostSubject: Re: Dylan actually religious???   Dylan actually religious??? Icon_minitimeSat Jun 13, 2015 5:08 pm

He was raised luteran, but he obviously gavethat up. His mom wa sjewish, he never was.

IMHO he built a rump-set of personal spiritual beliefs. That is what his (in)famous "halycon/s" referred to.

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PostSubject: Re: Dylan actually religious???   Dylan actually religious??? Icon_minitimeSat Jun 13, 2015 7:02 pm

Right... It is just maddening that I never realized just how much Cullen loves Dylan
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PostSubject: Re: Dylan actually religious???   Dylan actually religious??? Icon_minitimeSat Jun 13, 2015 8:28 pm

Maybe he meant spiritual instead of religious? Dylan was obviously very spiritual. All of his talk about other dimensions and some kind of afterlife proves that. It seems some people have trouble telling the difference between morality and spirituality. You don't have to value life to believe there's some greater purpose that drives the universe.

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PostSubject: Re: Dylan actually religious???   Dylan actually religious??? Icon_minitimeSat Jun 13, 2015 11:45 pm

I totally agree with that
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PostSubject: Re: Dylan actually religious???   Dylan actually religious??? Icon_minitimeSun Jun 14, 2015 10:18 am

They both were thinking about afterlife and were hoping to end up in a better place ,for them this Earth was kind of a Hell ,they did not like life , but i think they were not very religious , Maybe they were a little more more spiritual then religious but ...I do not really think so,Maybe they just started to think about the death ,afterlife, as they knew what they are going to do.

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PostSubject: Re: Dylan actually religious???   Dylan actually religious??? Icon_minitimeSun Jun 14, 2015 10:58 am

Awerry wrote:
Right... It is just maddening that I never realized just how much Cullen loves Dylan

And Brooks, he loves Dylan too. In his book Brooks generlaly goes down to: "Eric was evil, but Dylan was normal and only became a monster as a result of Columbine HS where I myself was bullied and hanged around with punk kids".

Abigail Lee wrote:
They both were thinking about afterlife and were hoping to end up in a better place
Dylan yes. Eric I'm not so convinced. I think this is probably one of the times where Eric made himself conform to Dylan's views as a way of keeping their bond stronger (or perhaps just keeping Dylan in line, who knows?).

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PostSubject: Re: Dylan actually religious???   Dylan actually religious??? Icon_minitimeTue Aug 30, 2016 11:15 am

Is it okay if I bring up this old thread?

In my opinion, one of the main problems is that many people confuse "religious" and "spiritual". One might be religious, even without being open to spiritual things. And, one can be very spiritual without belonging to any religion. (And, one can be both spiritual and religious. Or none of the two.) So, [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.], i do relate to your post.

I remember Dylan mentioning on the Basement Tapes that his parents were to celebrate "f***ing Passover." This makes me think he was not too enthusiastic about Judaism. Maybe he was equally bored with Lutheran Christianity?

Eric did state that the only thing he believed in was science and natural selection.

But of course, this does not mean that they had no fantasies about the afterlife. And yes, [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.], it is possible that Eric made himself conform to Dylan's attitudes. (Like the music preferences and the stickers on their cars.)

Now I am really in doubt if I really want to read Cullen's book or not. Have already read his website, and I was sitting there like "WTF?!"
But I am extremely tired of this "poor, sad Dylan vs. violent, manipulative Eric" blah. Even if Dylan was indeed very sad, and even if Eric had indeed violent and manipulative tendencies. In reality, the whole situation must have been much more complex than this.

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