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PostSubject: Happy Birthday Dylan.September 11   Sat Sep 10, 2016 9:15 pm

Dylan,
Today ,if you had lived you would be 35 years old.Instead, you needlessly died at 17 almost half a year from your 18th Birthday.
Your absence from this world is hard to qualify but for those of us who care, it could never be measured.
Your family will never stop missing you and you have made a permanent impact in the hearts, mind and lives of many people that I'm sure you would never have imagined.
You are so missed.I love and miss you and so do many others.
Everyday I wish you and all the others were still here.So much potential was lost on that sad day.

Have a wonderful Birthday in Heaven.

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PostSubject: Re: Happy Birthday Dylan.September 11   Sat Sep 10, 2016 9:50 pm

RIP Dylan, wherever you are.
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PostSubject: Re: Happy Birthday Dylan.September 11   Sat Sep 10, 2016 10:20 pm

Happy birthday, Dylan. I hope you found that eternal peace you wanted.

Let's keep the Klebolds in our thoughts today.
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PostSubject: Re: Happy Birthday Dylan.September 11   Sun Sep 11, 2016 3:09 am

Happy Birthday Dylan. I Guess when we talk about you, we're always thinking of you. Separating from what you did on 4/20, I sympathise with you as a person when you were going through turmoil that nobody knew before you died. I hope you're resting at a place you always yearned for when you were alive.
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PostSubject: Re: Happy Birthday Dylan.September 11   Sun Sep 11, 2016 5:37 am



Hope you found peace and love.
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PostSubject: Re: Happy Birthday Dylan.September 11   Sun Sep 11, 2016 5:44 am

Not sure if heaven exists and not even sure Dylan would have made it there if it does. But I hope he was given the chance to stand in front of God and explain himself. Dylan was a good kid who made a really bad choice, everyone else goes through troubles like Dylan but they dont go shooting up their school. I feel really sorry for Dylan. RIP wherever you are.
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PostSubject: Re: Happy Birthday Dylan.September 11   Sun Sep 11, 2016 6:43 am

My heart is aching. Dylan was such a good person. It's such a loss to the world that he's gone. RIP also to Adam Lanza, Seung Hui Cho, Omar Mateen etc. Hell - since it's 9/11 I might as well pay my respects to the 9/11 terrorists. All such wonderful people who did incredible things with their brief time on Earth. The world is a sadder place without them all.



























































And by RIP, I mean "Rot in piss".
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PostSubject: Re: Happy Birthday Dylan.September 11   Sun Sep 11, 2016 6:59 am

I knew you'd pull something like that [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] Rolling Eyes

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PostSubject: Re: Happy Birthday Dylan.September 11   Sun Sep 11, 2016 7:06 am

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My heart is aching. Dylan was such a good person. It's such a loss to the world that he's gone. RIP also to Adam Lanza, Seung Hui Cho, Omar Mateen etc. Hell - since it's 9/11 I might as well pay my respects to the 9/11 terrorists. All such wonderful people who did incredible things with their brief time on Earth. The world is a sadder place without them all.


Yeah, it is a loss.To me, its certainly a loss.Each one of those people had at least one person in the world who cares about them too and misses them.Some of these people have suffered greatly with this loss.
Those of us who care for Dylan are allowed to miss him and mark his birthday because it means something important to us.
I'm not the all ashamed of about my birthday posts for Eric and Dylan.In my mind, they are victims too and deserve to be remembered.I'm well aware you highly disagree.






































































































And by RIP, I mean "Rot in piss".

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PostSubject: Re: Happy Birthday Dylan.September 11   Sun Sep 11, 2016 7:19 am

Rest in peace Dylan, and happy birthday.


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PostSubject: Re: Happy Birthday Dylan.September 11   Sun Sep 11, 2016 8:51 am

Happy birthday VoDkA!
If only you knew how worthy you were, you would have SURELY never done anything so horrible.

There are many who would gladly be friends with you now - not because of what you finally did, but because of who you were before.

Everyone deserves forgiveness.
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PostSubject: Re: Happy Birthday Dylan.September 11   Sun Sep 11, 2016 12:18 pm

Happy Birthday Dylan.

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PostSubject: Re: Happy Birthday Dylan.September 11   Sun Sep 11, 2016 1:55 pm

Happy Birthday Dylan. Rest in peace.
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PostSubject: Re: Happy Birthday Dylan.September 11   Sun Sep 11, 2016 2:20 pm

Happy Birthday Dylan. Even though some in this world don't even know or remember you. But others know who you truly were and wished you could have been saved. For you Dylan Klebold. Gone but not forgottem

   Alone for a while I've been searching through the dark
   For traces of the love you left inside my lonely heart
   To weave by picking up the pieces that remain
   Melodies of life--love's lost refrain
     
   Our paths they did cross, though I cannot say just why
   We met, we laughed, we held on fast, and then we said goodbye
   And who'll hear the echoes of stories never told?
   Let them ring out loud till they unfold
   In my dearest memories, I see you reaching out to me
   Though you're gone, I still believe that you can call out my name
     
    A voice from the past, joining yours and mine
    Adding up the layers of harmony
    And so it goes, on and on
    Melodies of life,
    To the sky beyond the flying birds--forever and beyond
     
   So far and away, see the bird as it flies by  
   Gliding through the shadows of the clouds up in the sky  
   I've laid my memories and dreams upon those wings  
   Leave them now and see what tomorrow brings
     
   In your dearest memories, do you remember loving me?
   Was it fate that brought us close and now leaves me behind?
     
   If I should leave this lonely world behind
   Your voice will still remember our melody
   Now I know we'll carry on
   Melodies of life
   Come circle round and grow deep in our hearts
   As long as we remember

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PostSubject: Re: Happy Birthday Dylan.September 11   Mon Sep 12, 2016 3:20 am

I don't believe neither in a heaven nor in a hell, but I'm sure that if he had had another chance at life, remembering what he had done in the shooting, he would have felt deeply sorry and disappointed by himself.
Nevertheless, there's no doubt that he's at peace now.
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PostSubject: Re: Happy Birthday Dylan.September 11   Mon Sep 12, 2016 4:27 am

I didn't make this excerpt, everlasting-contrast on tumblr did, but I wanted to put it here cause it's so bittersweet:

Quote :
Sixteenth Birthday:

“Guys, I don’t want to make a big deal out of this.”

Dylan turned sixteen in September. When Tom and I suggested a party, he demurred: “Guys, I don’t want to make a big deal out of this.” But a sixteenth birthday is a milestone, and Tom and I wanted to mark it for Dylan.

Our family tradition was to go to a restaurant of the celebrant’s choice. That year, Dylan chose a barbecue restaurant with a 1940s classic movie theme. Byron couldn’t get anyone to cover him at work. While we hated for him to miss his brother’s birthday celebration, we were pleased to see evidence of his work ethic and supported his decision not to attend. Plus, Tom and I had a surprise planned: although Dylan’s friend Zack also had to work that night, we’d
arranged for Eric and Nate to meet us at the restaurant.

Dylan was genuinely surprised to see his friends. So surprised, it took him half the evening to loosen up and start enjoying himself. I was sympathetic. He was attuned to the slightest of social discomforts, though Nate and Eric found us much less embarrassing than he did. Dylan knew of our intolerance for rudeness and picky eaters as well, and was probably worried about
how his friends would behave. Over the course of the night, though, he relaxed, and with good humor he thanked us for overriding his protests and surprising him. But the roller-coaster ride was about to begin.

Later that month, he woke up in the middle of the night with terrible stomach pains. We were concerned enough to take him to the emergency room, where they ruled out appendicitis and everything else. Puzzled, the doctors released him, and he appeared to recover completely. I would later learn that unexplained somatic symptoms, particularly abdominal pain, may be a
marker for depression.

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PostSubject: Re: Happy Birthday Dylan.September 11   Mon Sep 12, 2016 6:15 am

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I don't believe neither in a heaven nor in a hell, but I'm sure that if he had had another chance at life, remembering what he had done in the shooting, he would have felt deeply sorry and disappointed by himself.
Nevertheless, there's no doubt that he's at peace now.

I think he possibly would've had regret for what he did if he had the opportunity to reflect on the aftermath with a little more life experience behind him. Maybe outgrowing his high school mentality would've helped him put things into perspective. I think if he had matured he would have possibly felt remorse for what he put his family through, too.

It's a shame he decided to die an asshole.
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PostSubject: Re: Happy Birthday Dylan.September 11   Mon Sep 12, 2016 6:22 am

Although it may be a day late I did not forget. Happy Birthday Dylan,you got your selfish wish; to be remembered.
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PostSubject: Re: Happy Birthday Dylan.September 11   Mon Sep 12, 2016 6:27 am

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It's a shame he decided to die an asshole.

Please allow me to respectfully disagree.

Even if it was - and is - still horrible for his family, dealing with his murder-suicide, dealing with a trial for capital case wold have been even worse for them.

I don't mean to offend you by this, but this is Dylan's birthday thread. I do understand that you detest him for what he did - and I am not trying to find excuses for him either -, but he was human too.

I really hope that you don't consider this post of mine as a personal attack!

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PostSubject: Re: Happy Birthday Dylan.September 11   Mon Sep 12, 2016 6:29 am

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I didn't make this excerpt, everlasting-contrast on tumblr did, but I wanted to put it here cause it's so bittersweet:

Quote :
Sixteenth Birthday:

“Guys, I don’t want to make a big deal out of this.”

Dylan turned sixteen in September. When Tom and I suggested a party, he demurred: “Guys, I don’t want to make a big deal out of this.” But a sixteenth birthday is a milestone, and Tom and I wanted to mark it for Dylan.

Our family tradition was to go to a restaurant of the celebrant’s choice. That year, Dylan chose a barbecue restaurant with a 1940s classic movie theme. Byron couldn’t get anyone to cover him at work. While we hated for him to miss his brother’s birthday celebration, we were pleased to see evidence of his work ethic and supported his decision not to attend. Plus, Tom and I had a surprise planned: although Dylan’s friend Zack also had to work that night, we’d
arranged for Eric and Nate to meet us at the restaurant.

Dylan was genuinely surprised to see his friends. So surprised, it took him half the evening to loosen up and start enjoying himself. I was sympathetic. He was attuned to the slightest of social discomforts, though Nate and Eric found us much less embarrassing than he did. Dylan knew of our intolerance for rudeness and picky eaters as well, and was probably worried about
how his friends would behave. Over the course of the night, though, he relaxed, and with good humor he thanked us for overriding his protests and surprising him. But the roller-coaster ride was about to begin.

Later that month, he woke up in the middle of the night with terrible stomach pains. We were concerned enough to take him to the emergency room, where they ruled out appendicitis and everything else. Puzzled, the doctors released him, and he appeared to recover completely. I would later learn that unexplained somatic symptoms, particularly abdominal pain, may be a
marker for depression.

Thanks for posting this!
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PostSubject: Re: Happy Birthday Dylan.September 11   Mon Sep 12, 2016 6:43 am

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Although it may be a day late I did not forget. Happy Birthday Dylan,you got your selfish wish; to be remembered.

And his wish to be reduced to a pile of ashes.

Edit: People probably aren't going to like this post, but I'm sorry, it's the truth.

Instead of taking a proper shot at living and enjoying the things in life, he's now dead. Yes, he got the infamy he wanted, but what use is it to him now that he's dead and isn't even aware of anything? We're all going to die eventually, so why rush? Make the most of life. Dylan probably still would've had several more years in him had he taken another route. We have X amount of time on Earth, and eternity to cease existing. Enjoy the short ride. And yes, I know mental illness is a real problem, but it's a shame he did not seek help and chose to drag others with him..and for what? He could've had some of his best years ahead of him.


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PostSubject: Re: Happy Birthday Dylan.September 11   Mon Sep 12, 2016 6:47 am

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It's a shame he decided to die an asshole.

Please allow me to respectfully disagree.

Even if it was - and is - still horrible for his family, dealing with his murder-suicide, dealing with a trial for capital case wold have been even worse for them.

I don't mean to offend you by this, but this is Dylan's birthday thread. I do understand that you detest him for what he did - and I am not trying to find excuses for him either -, but he was human too.

I really hope that you don't consider this post of mine as a personal attack!


Well shit, if shooting kids doesn't make you an asshole, then I don't know what does! Where do you draw the line? Are paedophiles "human" too and worthy of birthday wishes and respect from strangers?
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PostSubject: Re: Happy Birthday Dylan.September 11   Mon Sep 12, 2016 6:57 am

I like how people are getting all sentimental in this thread - acting like Dylan would've cared about all these posts. He probably would've laughed about how "corny" they sound. I remember Eric and Dylan were apparently musing in the basement tapes about all the candlelight vigils that would be held in the wake of the massacre (and yes, they were probably referring to the ones for their victims - not theirs, but it was the notion of these tributes they were also mocking). I don't think Dylan died the person you guys want to believe he was. But that's just my two cents and people are of course welcome to express their own views here - that's why I like this place.
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PostSubject: Re: Happy Birthday Dylan.September 11   Mon Sep 12, 2016 7:00 am

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Sorry, but this is not the manners I used when writing to you.
Even if I have another view on these things, I did not use bad words when expressing my opinion.

Of course, you have the right to express how you feel about the thing, but your question is off topic here. I would say we might discuss my views in another thread - if you are really interested -, but I just don't feel like discussing anything in this style.

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PostSubject: Re: Happy Birthday Dylan.September 11   Mon Sep 12, 2016 7:03 am

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Sorry, but this is not the manners I used when writing to you.
Even if I have another view on these things, I did not use bad words when expressing my opinion.

Of course, you have the right to feel free to express how you feel about the thing, but your question is off topic here. I would say we might discuss my views in another thread - if you are really interested -, but I just don't feel like discussing anything in this style.

/off

And you know that the very person you're defending loved to punctuate sentences with all sorts of foul language, so why are you so concerned with a couple of cuss words I used that weren't even directed at you?

And I notice that you didn't answer my question..I mean, it is relevant to a thread that's celebrating a birthday for someone who took the lives of kids whilst laughing and taunting them.
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PostSubject: Re: Happy Birthday Dylan.September 11   Mon Sep 12, 2016 7:14 am

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It's a shame he decided to die an asshole.
Even if it was - and is - still horrible for his family, dealing with his murder-suicide, dealing with a trial for capital case wold have been even worse for them.
Oh please, do you really think he killed himself purely to make things easier for his family?

Surely it couldn't have come down to the fact that he didn't want to live anymore or face the consequences of his actions..

Yes, he obviously had his family's best interests at heart when he went on a murderous rampage.
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PostSubject: Re: Happy Birthday Dylan.September 11   Mon Sep 12, 2016 10:21 am

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It's a shame he decided to die an asshole.
Even if it was - and is - still horrible for his family, dealing with his murder-suicide, dealing with a trial for capital case wold have been even worse for them.
Oh please, do you really think he killed himself purely to make things easier for his family?

Surely it couldn't have come down to the fact that he didn't want to live anymore or face the consequences of his actions..

Yes, he obviously had his family's best interests at heart when he went on a murderous rampage.

I don't think that is what Moonshadow meant. He wasn't thinking of his family at all when he did any of this. He didn't care about any of them.

Dealing with the suicide and loss of their son combined with what he did was horrible on both of the families.
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PostSubject: Re: Happy Birthday Dylan.September 11   Mon Sep 12, 2016 12:26 pm

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I don't think that is what Moonshadow meant.  He wasn't thinking of his family at all when he did any of this.  He didn't care about any of them.

Dealing with the suicide and loss of their son combined with what he did was horrible on both of the families.    

Thanks [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.], and yes, I am sure he did not care about his family or anyone else - only that facing a trial and a serious penalty would have been even harder for his parents.
However, I still think it is not the right thread to discuss this. Maybe it is high time we asked an admin?




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PostSubject: Re: Happy Birthday Dylan.September 11   Mon Sep 12, 2016 12:35 pm

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Well shit, if shooting kids doesn't make you an asshole, then I don't know what does! Where do you draw the line? Are paedophiles "human" too and worthy of birthday wishes and respect from strangers?

For me, I have called Dylan an asshole and piece of shit. I acknowledge he was horrid for what he did, I never deny nor forget it. But I am also able to speak good of him at times or even acknowledge his birthday because FOR ME, for me, I can forgive him. The context of his crime and suicide differs from other criminals who go on shooting sprees. Dylan was obviously troubled and everyone only learnt of this after Columbine has happened.

And as a matter of fact, yes, even for pedophiles, the worst monsters out there, do get birthday wishes, be it from family or from strangers. Yes some people are actually able to do that even to some pedophiles who actually know they are sick and are aware of their crimes and seek forgiveness from others. You see, all these forgiveness and well wishes differ for everybody. It's not exclusive. I can wish Dylan a happy birthday, you don't want to. That's it.

Remember when I said to you awhile back that if even some of the victim's families can forgive Eric and Dylan and find peace in it then that's all that matters? It's the same thing. The Scotts are forgiving. Brian Rorhbough isn't. Anne Marie is forgiving. Kelly's dad is forgiving.

It's yes to some and no to some. And there's no way we will know what Dylan thinks of all this because he is dead and it's going to remain that way for good.

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PostSubject: Re: Happy Birthday Dylan.September 11   Mon Sep 12, 2016 1:05 pm

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Instead of taking a proper shot at living and enjoying the things in life, he's now dead. Yes, he got the infamy he wanted, but what use is it to him now that he's dead and isn't even aware of anything? We're all going to die eventually, so why rush? Make the most of life. Dylan probably still would've had several more years in him had he taken another route. We have X amount of time on Earth, and eternity to cease existing. Enjoy the short ride. And yes, I know mental illness is a real problem, but it's a shame he did not seek help and chose to drag others with him..and for what? He could've had some of his best years ahead of him.

Bubbles it seems so easy to say something like that, but we were not Dylan and we will never understand the magnitude of the sickness he had. He had to be in a really bad place inside to make a decision such as that.

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