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PostSubject: Did anyone besides Robyn Anderson knew they had firearms ?   Sun Sep 11, 2016 4:18 pm

Did she told anyone about the purchase of the weapons for eric and dylan ? Does she told any of her friends , a close friend perhaps ?

My guess is yes she did told someone , although there is nothing about it in the reports in the 11 k i believe she told someone .

Its a juicy secret , i think she couldnt resist .

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PostSubject: Re: Did anyone besides Robyn Anderson knew they had firearms ?   Mon Sep 12, 2016 10:13 am

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Did she told anyone about the purchase of the weapons for eric and dylan ? Does she told any of her friends , a close friend perhaps ?

My guess is yes she did told someone , although there is nothing about it in the reports in the 11 k i believe she told someone .

Its a juicy secret , i think she couldnt resist .


She states she did not tell anyone until after NBK. Then she did tell one of her friends and her mother who both convinced her to go to the police. Robyn was scared she would be prosecuted and didn't want to tell the cops at first.
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PostSubject: Re: Did anyone besides Robyn Anderson knew they had firearms ?   Mon Sep 12, 2016 10:33 am

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Did she told anyone about the purchase of the weapons for eric and dylan ? Does she told any of her friends , a close friend perhaps ?

My guess is yes she did told someone , although there is nothing about it in the reports in the 11 k i believe she told someone .

Its a juicy secret , i think she couldnt resist .


She states she did not tell anyone until after NBK.  Then she did tell one of her friends and her mother who both convinced her to go to the police. Robyn was scared she would be prosecuted and didn't want to tell the cops at first.

but maybe she told some close friend before nbk happen , i mean , lets face it , girls tell other girls everything . And above that Littleton is a pretty small community everyone knows everything about everyone .

By the way can anyone find her testimony in the records ? maybe put here the page and or link for it , i would like to know exatcy what she said , i have the 11k files but dont know exatcly where it is .
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PostSubject: Re: Did anyone besides Robyn Anderson knew they had firearms ?   Mon Sep 12, 2016 10:55 am

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Did she told anyone about the purchase of the weapons for eric and dylan ? Does she told any of her friends , a close friend perhaps ?

My guess is yes she did told someone , although there is nothing about it in the reports in the 11 k i believe she told someone .

Its a juicy secret , i think she couldnt resist .


She states she did not tell anyone until after NBK.  Then she did tell one of her friends and her mother who both convinced her to go to the police. Robyn was scared she would be prosecuted and didn't want to tell the cops at first.

but maybe she told some close friend before nbk happen , i mean , lets face it , girls tell other girls everything . And above that Littleton is a pretty small community everyone knows everything about everyone .

By the way can anyone find her testimony in the records ? maybe put here the page and or link for it , i would like to know exatcy what she said , i have the 11k files but dont know exatcly where it is .

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I put it in there. Page numbers and clips of her testimony.
I for one myself believe she did not tell anyone. I think she did want to keep it a secret because she liked Dylan and wanted him to like her and he asked her to keep it a secret. I also do not think she wanted to advertise the fact that she had purchased guns for them because let's face it....she knew they didn't have these guns for target shooting despite what she said.
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PostSubject: Re: Did anyone besides Robyn Anderson knew they had firearms ?   Mon Sep 12, 2016 12:25 pm

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she knew they didn't have these guns for target shooting despite what she said.

If she knew that deep down, meaning she was not stupid and she had a feeling of what was up then that's fucked up. Of all the people she's the one that got a clue and didn't think to report shit or pry further.

All because she was giddy over Dylan? Girl please.

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PostSubject: Re: Did anyone besides Robyn Anderson knew they had firearms ?   Mon Sep 12, 2016 12:47 pm

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she knew they didn't have these guns for target shooting despite what she said.

If she knew that deep down, meaning she was not stupid and she had a feeling of what was up then that's fucked up. Of all the people she's the one that got a clue and didn't think to report shit or pry further.

All because she was giddy over Dylan? Girl please.

Well she has never said or implied she truly knew...but with all the secrecy around the guns I think she was suspicious. I mean, they were both 17 so it was illegal for them just to have the guns at all but I think she knew there was something else going on.

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PostSubject: Re: Did anyone besides Robyn Anderson knew they had firearms ?   Mon Sep 12, 2016 12:57 pm

I totally understand why people were mad she didn't get any crucial punishment at all, at the least what Mark Manes and Phil Duran got.

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PostSubject: Re: Did anyone besides Robyn Anderson knew they had firearms ?   Mon Sep 12, 2016 12:58 pm

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I totally understand why people were mad she didn't get any crucial punishment at all, at the least what Mark Manes and Phil Duran got.

Yea the loophole was just enough for her to get out of jailtime.
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PostSubject: Re: Did anyone besides Robyn Anderson knew they had firearms ?   Mon Sep 12, 2016 1:00 pm

That and she could simply say she didn't know what was up and they had to take her word for it, even if she lied and her instincts told her something was amiss.

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PostSubject: Re: Did anyone besides Robyn Anderson knew they had firearms ?   Mon Sep 12, 2016 1:08 pm

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That and she could simply say she didn't know what was up and they had to take her word for it, even if she lied and her instincts told her something was amiss.

Without the loophole she could have gotten jail time regardless of what she knew just based on the fact she bought guns for minors.
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PostSubject: Re: Did anyone besides Robyn Anderson knew they had firearms ?   Mon Sep 12, 2016 2:10 pm

Dylan told one of his friends about his shotgun (Nate I think) and told him it was: "just like the movie Desperados". I read this somewhere, Cullen's book I think so take it with a grain of salt.

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PostSubject: Re: Did anyone besides Robyn Anderson knew they had firearms ?   Mon Sep 12, 2016 2:14 pm

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That and she could simply say she didn't know what was up and they had to take her word for it, even if she lied and her instincts told her something was amiss.

Without the loophole she could have gotten jail time regardless of what she knew just based on the fact she bought guns for minors.

At the time it was completely legal for an adault to furnish minors with long barreled firearms.

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PostSubject: Re: Did anyone besides Robyn Anderson knew they had firearms ?   Mon Sep 12, 2016 7:16 pm

I think so. I read or watched an interview of Randy Brown, where he said a girl talked to her mom about Eric having guns, but her mom didn't take it seriously, replying that Eric was 18, so he could buy a gun if he wanted.
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PostSubject: Re: Did anyone besides Robyn Anderson knew they had firearms ?   Tue Sep 13, 2016 10:38 am

Brooks had every reason to dislike Robyn and he should. I'd like to know what was going through her mind when she purchased the guns. Was she really that into Dylan? Seriously.

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PostSubject: Re: Did anyone besides Robyn Anderson knew they had firearms ?   Tue Sep 13, 2016 10:40 am

Robyn was thinking "He loves me, he loves me, oh my god he will marry me."

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PostSubject: Re: Did anyone besides Robyn Anderson knew they had firearms ?   Tue Sep 13, 2016 10:43 am

I feel bad for Robyn in a way.

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PostSubject: Re: Did anyone besides Robyn Anderson knew they had firearms ?   Tue Sep 13, 2016 10:52 am

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Robyn was thinking "He loves me, he loves me, oh my god he will marry me."

Haha Okay I think I'm gonna go puke now.

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PostSubject: Re: Did anyone besides Robyn Anderson knew they had firearms ?   Tue Sep 13, 2016 2:01 pm

how could she not get somekind of a legal punishment ? This still baffles me .
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PostSubject: Re: Did anyone besides Robyn Anderson knew they had firearms ?   Tue Sep 13, 2016 2:11 pm


Robyn was not charged because:

In April 1999 the law was "An 18-year-old can buy a rifle according to federal law, but can't legally buy a pistol from a federally licensed gun dealer. However, in Colorado, an 18-year-old can buy a handgun in a private sale, such as from a seller at a gun show," and "Under Colorado law, an 18-year-old without a felony record can furnish minors with rifles and shotguns".


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PostSubject: Re: Did anyone besides Robyn Anderson knew they had firearms ?   Tue Sep 13, 2016 2:12 pm


In a plea bargain that may keep him out of jail, the man charged with providing a semi-automatic handgun used in the Columbine High shootings pleaded guilty Wednesday to two felony charges.

Mark Manes sold a TEC DC-9 pistol to 18-year-old Eric Harris and 17-year-old Dylan Klebold about two months before the April 20 attack in the Denver suburb of Littleton, Colorado.

Standing in Jefferson County District Court with his hands folded in front of him and his parents seated behind him, Manes pleaded guilty to providing a handgun to a minor and possession of a sawed-off shotgun.

The latter charge stems from evidence that Manes shot an illegal sawed-off shotgun with Harris and Klebold.

The TEC DC-9 was one of four guns used in the attack at Columbine. Before taking their own lives that day, the gunmen shot dead 12 fellow students and a teacher.

Harris and Klebold also used two shotguns and a rifle legally purchased by Klebold's friend, Robyn Anderson.

Under Colorado law, an 18-year-old without a felony record can furnish minors with rifles and shotguns. Investigators have characterized Anderson as a witness, not a suspect.

Sentencing October 14

Manes, a former Columbine student, purchased the TEC DC-9 at a gun show last fall.

He is scheduled to be sentenced on October 14.

The two guilty pleas on felony charges could bring an 18-year prison term if Manes served consecutive sentences. That maximum sentence is not considered likely, however, following the twin guilty pleas.

In court, Manes' attorney, Robert Ransome said Manes and his parents acted together in reaching the decision to enter a guilty plea.

"They want to take responsibility," he said. "They want to make a statement about guns."

Prosecutor Steven Jensen said Harris and Klebold contacted Manes on April 19, the night before the shooting, and asked him to get ammunition for the TEC DC-9.

Manes went out that night and bought 100 rounds of 9 mm shells at a Kmart, the prosecutor told the court.

Jensen said Manes asked if they were going shooting that night. According to the prosecutor, they responded, "No, they were going to go shooting tomorrow," a reference to April 20.

Police say there appears to be no evidence that Manes knew what Harris and Klebold were planning to do with the weapon.

Philip Duran, a pizza shop employee who worked with Harris and Klebold, introduced them to Manes when Duran learned they were looking for weapons.

Duran, 22, is scheduled to appear in court next week. Because he helped with the introduction, he is charged with providing a gun to a minor, which carries a maximum sentence of six years in prison and a $500,000 fine.

Duran also is accused of possessing a dangerous or illegal weapon, which carries a maximum three-year prison term and a $3,000 fine.
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PostSubject: Re: Did anyone besides Robyn Anderson knew they had firearms ?   Tue Sep 13, 2016 4:09 pm

Yeah I mean....despite the fact that the boys used it for murder, Robyn did purchase it legally even though the loophole was there. Technically she didn't really do anything wrong. She didn't have a felony either.

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PostSubject: Re: Did anyone besides Robyn Anderson knew they had firearms ?   Tue Sep 13, 2016 4:11 pm

The thing I'm icky about is firstly Robyn purchased most of the guns used that day, inclusive of Eric's. She handed to them the weapons that would do the most damage. Secondly, I can't fathom how she couldn't think for a second that it was little suspect to be needing them, especially coming from Eric and Dylan. Robyn you are giddy and simple-minded girl.

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PostSubject: Re: Did anyone besides Robyn Anderson knew they had firearms ?   Tue Sep 13, 2016 6:10 pm

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The thing I'm icky about is firstly Robyn purchased most of the guns used that day, inclusive of Eric's. She handed to them the weapons that would do the most damage. Secondly, I can't fathom how she couldn't think for a second that it was little suspect to be needing them, especially coming from Eric and Dylan. Robyn you are giddy and simple-minded girl.
I believe her head was in the clouds at the time and I can go a long ways about her when she turned over the guns to Eric and Dylan. Personally I think she should have known better. Maybe the lawsuits she faced was probably enough punishment for her right?

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PostSubject: Re: Did anyone besides Robyn Anderson knew they had firearms ?   Wed Sep 14, 2016 6:16 am

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Maybe the lawsuits she faced was probably enough punishment for her right?

That and her own conscience I guess, throughout the years. I'm sure she soon realised that they took her for a fool and it ate her up pretty bad.

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PostSubject: Re: Did anyone besides Robyn Anderson knew they had firearms ?   Wed Sep 14, 2016 9:19 am

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Maybe the lawsuits she faced was probably enough punishment for her right?

That and her own conscience I guess, throughout the years. I'm sure she soon realised that they took her for a fool and it ate her up pretty bad.

Yea I think she beat herself up enough to an extent. She has now realized she was being played and I am sure that stung. I think we tend to forget she was a young naive girl. So yea she was somewhat obsessed with Dylan but she was young and he was nice to her and she wanted him to like her like any teen
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PostSubject: Re: Did anyone besides Robyn Anderson knew they had firearms ?   Wed Sep 14, 2016 10:12 am

I don't get it though. Was Robyn really that into Dylan? I thought they were just friends. Did Dylan even realize her crush on him?

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PostSubject: Re: Did anyone besides Robyn Anderson knew they had firearms ?   Wed Sep 14, 2016 10:25 am

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I don't get it though. Was Robyn really that into Dylan? I thought they were just friends. Did Dylan even realize her crush on him?

According to Brooks he knew. It seems like everyone knew. Brooks has said that she really wanted to be more than friends but Dylan did not want that at all.

Going to prom with him, getting him the guns, and her face with her arm around him in the class photo tells me she really really liked him. They spent time outside of school studying with each other. I think she was really into him.
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PostSubject: Re: Did anyone besides Robyn Anderson knew they had firearms ?   Wed Sep 14, 2016 10:33 am

I have seen this picture before, and I can't help but grin at it. Girl is really into guy and it's an open secret, even to the guy, and the guy for some reason lets the girl cling onto him, follow his every move and doesn't really rejects it or put her in her place. He has no feelings for her at all but he just lets it happen, kinda like mutually or something. I used to think that they had a platonic thing going on but so far I haven't read any accounts of Dylan doing something special exclusively for Robyn. So yeah by label they are just friends but Robyn is into him; meaning if say Dylan wanted to try something beyond the line with her she would allow it.

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PostSubject: Re: Did anyone besides Robyn Anderson knew they had firearms ?   Wed Sep 14, 2016 10:59 am

Which is why I believe Dylan never had an ideal type. I see him more as a love at first sight kind of guy.

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PostSubject: Re: Did anyone besides Robyn Anderson knew they had firearms ?   Wed Sep 14, 2016 11:04 am

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Which is why I believe Dylan never had an ideal type. I see him more as a love at first sight kind of guy.

He could have had a type and Robyn was just not it.  If you look at the suspected crush girls of Marla and Tobin they were both extremely gorgeous girls.  I am not saying Robyn was ugly by any means but she did not look like like them.
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