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PostSubject: Everybody with white hats stand up.   Sun Nov 13, 2016 8:10 am

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PostSubject: Re: Everybody with white hats stand up.   Sun Nov 13, 2016 9:57 am

Good job on this one! Didn't hear half that in the old versions of the call. Thank you.

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PostSubject: Re: Everybody with white hats stand up.   Sun Nov 13, 2016 10:14 am

This is really clear thanks.

Man Dylan is a beast.

and I'm sorry but I wish Patti would shut up.

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PostSubject: Re: Everybody with white hats stand up.   Sun Nov 13, 2016 10:52 am

Thanks for providing this clip. It was the clearest version I have heard. Thank you.
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PostSubject: Re: Everybody with white hats stand up.   Sun Nov 13, 2016 12:52 pm

According to the evidence, the only people that we hear get shot/injured in the 911 call are Evan Todd and Kyle Velasquez, NOT anyone else.

11:29:09 Yelling "Get up!" (unknown)
11:29:11 Shot (Eric's Shotgun @ Evan Todd)
11:29:13 Shot (Eric's Shotgun @ Evan Todd)
11:29:16 Nielson starts whispering
11:29:22 Shot (Dylan's Shotgun @ Kyle Velasquez)
11:29:23 Shot (Dylan's Shotgun @ Kyle Velasquez)
11:29:27 Shot
11:29:32 Shot?
11:29:37 Yelling "Whoo!" (unknown)
11:29:41 Shot
11:29:45 Screaming
11:30:00
11:30:05 Shot (distant)
11:30:09 Phone Dropped


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PostSubject: Re: Everybody with white hats stand up.   Sun Nov 13, 2016 1:01 pm

[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:

According to the evidence, the only person that we hear get shot in the 911 call is Kyle Velasquez, NOT anyone else.

11:29:09 Yelling "Get up!" (unknown)
11:29:11 Shot (Eric's Shotgun @ Evan Todd)
11:29:13 Shot (Eric's Shotgun @ Evan Todd)
11:29:16 Nielson starts whispering
11:29:22 Shot (Dylan's Shotgun @ Kyle Velasquez)
11:29:23 Shot (Dylan's Shotgun @ Kyle Velasquez)
11:29:27 Shot
11:29:32 Shot?
11:29:37 Yelling "Whoo!" (unknown)
11:29:41 Shot
11:29:45 Screaming
11:30:00
11:30:05 Shot (distant)
11:30:09 Phone Dropped

Right! The audio cuts off before anybody else gets hit. The last thing we hear is them shooting at police.

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PostSubject: Re: Everybody with white hats stand up.   Mon Nov 14, 2016 1:18 am

Forgot to mention we hear the shots that injured Evan Todd when Eric/Dylan enter the library on the 911 call as well.
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PostSubject: Re: Everybody with white hats stand up.   Mon Nov 14, 2016 11:47 am

Is there a full audio of everything that was happening in the library?

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PostSubject: Re: Everybody with white hats stand up.   Mon Nov 14, 2016 4:12 pm

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Is there a full audio of everything that was happening in the library?

Randy Brown has it.

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PostSubject: Re: Everybody with white hats stand up.   Tue Nov 15, 2016 9:13 am

I think a lot of what's going on in the call center is interfering with what we're hearing in the call. For example I think it's one of the operators that says "OK" and not Eric, the voice sounds too close and too feminine to me. A couple others sound like Eric or Dylan talking combined with operators talking, it's kinda hard to differentiate between them. But this is a really good find!

I have a lot of sympathy for E&D. Its horribly tragic that these two kids who had so much to offer let their pain and frustration drive them to do this and throw their lives away. However, anytime I listen to this 911 call, the sympathy ends up draining out of me. I can't imagine how terrified the kids in that library were. Had I been there I know Dylan would have terrified the shit out of me, and I would have thought Eric was mean as hell.
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PostSubject: Re: Everybody with white hats stand up.   Tue Nov 15, 2016 9:15 am

Evan, Bree and John had contact with them and got out of there alive. Valeen too, although they must've thought they killed her.

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PostSubject: Re: Everybody with white hats stand up.   Tue Nov 15, 2016 12:21 pm

[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] is your comment in response to mine?

They might have chosen not to shoot a couple people, but Eric still shot Cassie in the face point blank, and they still taunted Isaiah for his race before killing him, and Dylan supposedly kicked John before shooting him, which kinda overshadows the fact that some kids were spared (there's speculation that Bree wasn't spared intentionally, that she didn't get shot b/c Eric got distracted).

Most of the time I focus more on the struggles the shooters dealt with b/c I can relate to them so well, and I end up overlooking the victims. When the media was covering the shooting at the time, I admit my 16 year old self was kinda rooting for the shooters, being an angry high school outcast myself. So the 911 call is kinda like a reality check and gets my mindset more in the victims' perspective. Reminds me that even though I feel sorry for E&D and the many issues they faced mentally and socially, in the end they still were ruthless to kids who did nothing to them and didn't even know who they were.
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PostSubject: Re: Everybody with white hats stand up.   Tue Nov 15, 2016 12:53 pm

no it's not a response I was just thinking

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PostSubject: Re: Everybody with white hats stand up.   Tue Nov 15, 2016 12:54 pm

John savage not John Tomlin

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PostSubject: Re: Everybody with white hats stand up.   Tue Nov 15, 2016 12:57 pm

They were ruthless at the period of killing, obviously, but it doesn't stop them from being sympathetic which lead to why they chose to kill. I sympathise with them but I also know they were pieces of shit. I think it's about being able to draw the line between feeling those two separate things. It's odd but Eric and Dylan are one of the few people who have killed who are also in my thoughts. The victims too no less

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PostSubject: Re: Everybody with white hats stand up.   Tue Nov 15, 2016 3:50 pm

[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:
It's odd but Eric and Dylan are one of the few people who have killed who are also in my thoughts. The victims too no less

Same here. For me I can't really place why though I think it's a generational thing or something. I identify with them, I had friends who were similar to them, we had common interests and listened to the same music. I think every NIN fan I knew (myself included) had the same shirt Dylan wore in the "Eric in Columbine" video... Looking at their pics and videos are a nostalgic blast from the past for me. Its a shame they can't look back at those days and just laugh their issues off like the rest of us.
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PostSubject: Re: Everybody with white hats stand up.   Tue Nov 15, 2016 5:26 pm

"Peekaboo" (gun shot). Crazy
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PostSubject: Re: Everybody with white hats stand up.   Tue Nov 15, 2016 5:53 pm


In the 911 tape released to the public you DO NOT hear Cassie Bernall get shot.

So, there is no "peekaboo" (gunshot) part in that clip above posted by CVA.
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PostSubject: Re: Everybody with white hats stand up.   Thu Nov 17, 2016 3:19 pm

I was basing it off his "text" (hard to make out if anything was said) but I do hear a gunshot after the text pops up 5:41. Either way crazy.
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PostSubject: Re: Everybody with white hats stand up.   Sat Dec 03, 2016 7:09 pm

5:10 Eric: "You're just gonna roll under cover?"
5:12 Dylan's laughter to what Eric said above.
5:20 "Well, well the Black kid"
What do you think?
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