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PostSubject: Re: Columbine Records Review Task Force 2002   Sat Dec 31, 2016 11:03 pm


31. Boatright interview and Critical Incident Team Tapes now in the Jefferson County Evidence Vault.


JCSO RESPONSE: The interview with Deputy Gardner conducted by Arvada Police Department Detective Boatright has been released (JC-001 -01115S to JC-001-011251). All Shoot Team tapes have been released on CD-ROM (JC-001-011252).


BROWN RESPONSE: The request was also for the Critical Incident Tapes. Please supply.
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PostSubject: Re: Columbine Records Review Task Force 2002   Sat Dec 31, 2016 11:03 pm


32. The complete 911 calls from the D.P.D. officer John Lietz.


JCSO RESPONSE: The redacted phone call has been released and is included in the CD-ROM of radio traffic and phone calls. If Mr. Brown is referring to evidence item [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.], the “Matt Depew” phone call, this is a copy of the voice message left by Matt Depew on his father's pager. The message is a few seconds long and has been released pursuant to previous Open Records requests. They will be copied and bate stamped and available to requestors.


BROWN RESPONSE: Thank you.
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33. Provide a complete accounting and explanation as to missing pages from the approx.10,600 released pages. Examples: a) Dunnebecke page 9791, this 7 page report has pages 2. 3. 4, 5 and 7 missing, b) page 9750, page 3 of pages 1-3 is missing, c) page 9748, page 2 of pages 1 and 2 is missing. This list to include all missing pages.


JCSO RESPONSE: Several reports included evidence sheets, which were separated and placed in the evidence book. Specifically, page three of Investigator Dunnebecke’s report is an evidence sheet (Item [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]). Deputy Black's second page is also an evidence sheet (Item [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]). Dunnebecke’s 7-page report was released as JC-001-009793A-D and JC-001-009794A.


BROWN RESPONSE: This does not explain the hundreds of pages included in this request. The examples given were for demonstration purposes. Can you provide us with a cross-reference that will identity the missing pages and their location? If one is not available, how do you keep track of the pages and their locations since they are not filed in sequential order? Please provide the requested information.
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PostSubject: Re: Columbine Records Review Task Force 2002   Sat Dec 31, 2016 11:04 pm


34. Detective John Kiekbusch is shown in a Rocky Mountain News photo standing in front of 300 volumes of Columbine reports. Release of these 300 volumes or have an independent party ascertain that duplications, as stated by Kate Battan do exist.


JCSO RESPONSE: This was explained at the first meeting with the Open Records Review Committee. When the Investigative files were made there were four identical copies of each book. The first copy is the “Records” copy that contains the original reports. The second copy is the “Investigation” copy that was used as a working copy so that the originals would not be tattered and torn. The third copy is the “Administrative” copy that was used for the same purpose as the Investigation copy. The Administrative set of books was provided to Judge Jackson for review and redaction. The fourth copy was the “District Attorney” copy, which would have been given to the District Attorney in the event a case was filed. Additionally, at the conclusion of the investigation, each book was reviewed and all duplicates of reports were removed. Only one copy of each report, with very few exceptions, remain in each set of books. These reports were then cross-referenced so they could be located easily. For instance, the majority of the witnesses were placed in a book identifying where they were when the shooting began, i.e. cafeteria, hallway, outside, not on location, etc. If an Investigator interviewed six witnesses and wrote one report, that report will be located under the Agency book, under the investigator’s name. A cross reference was then placed in the Records and Investigation book under the witnesses’ name so that all reports of witnesses could be found. This avoided making six copies of the same report and placing them in six different places. Understandably, when the duplicate reports were removed the volume of the books decreased.


BROWN RESPONSE: This photo was taken for publicity purposes? May we please have a copy of the cross-referenced index that locates the items in the Records and Investigation book. In addition, please see the Brown response to question 65. Your explanation is spurious and not believable. Did you give the District Attorney a copy for the Duran and Manes trials? When did you give this copy to D.A. Thomas? Please respond with the requested information, and/or allow members of the task force to review these files to assure that the JCSO response can be confirmed.

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PostSubject: Re: Columbine Records Review Task Force 2002   Sat Dec 31, 2016 11:05 pm


35. Full ballistics information! notes on evidence#1074. left out of the comparison to "item 0". See page 12208.


JCSO RESPONSE: The Jefferson County Sheriff’s Office has released all redacted documents in their possession regarding CB1 reports. The Review Committee has already contacted CBI for any reports they may have in their possession.


BROWN RESPONSE: Please provide information on evidence JCSO 1074. This item was submitted to the C.B.I. for analysis, and the analysis is not in the files. We have reviewed the C.B.I. reports for evidence items CBI 550/JCSO 1068 through CBI 563/JCSO 1088 and are unable to find evidence JCSO 1074. We know that this evidence number exists, as it was tested against item [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]. Please provide us with information regarding evidence JCSO 1074, or a written statement that you have no ballistics information regarding this evidence number.
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PostSubject: Re: Columbine Records Review Task Force 2002   Sat Dec 31, 2016 11:05 pm


36. A copy of Dylan Klebold's autopsy report, to eliminate controversy created by the leaked crime scene photos.


JCSO RESPONSE: The Court sealed Klebold’s autopsy report. The matter is still under appeal.


BROWN RESPONSE: Thank you.
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PostSubject: Re: Columbine Records Review Task Force 2002   Sat Dec 31, 2016 11:05 pm


37. Copies of any and all dispatch tapes or recordings from any and all agencies from April 20, 1999.


JCSO RESPONSE: The Jefferson County Sheriff’s Office released their redacted radio traffic and 911 calls from April 20, 1999. Please contact other agencies for information regarding their radio traffic.


BROWN RESPONSE: Please provide a copy of these tapes for time-stamping purposes.
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PostSubject: Re: Columbine Records Review Task Force 2002   Sat Dec 31, 2016 11:06 pm


38. A copy of the updated Policy and Procedure Manual from Jefferson County (JCSO) that will verify a change in the first responder techniques. We have a copy of the original procedure. Because of the response at Standley Lake, it is necessary to verify that these policies have been changed.


JCSO RESPONSE: A public CD Rom version of the Jefferson County Sheriff’s Office Policy and Procedure Manual is available by contacting the Records Section o f the Sheriff’s Office. Note that certain critical information that may put citizens and deputies in jeopardy cannot be included in the public version. For instance, an active shooter knowing the tactics and training regarding an active shooter would be detrimental to the responding officers. Any dissemination or possession of the nonpublic version, outside of litigation, by a member of the public is considered unauthorized by the Sheriff’s Office. Any such copies should be returned, as possession could jeopardize the safety of the public or deputies.


BROWN RESPONSE: We are very concerned with officer safety. We are also very concerned with the safety of unarmed children in a public or private school. The safety of the children is OUR PRIORITY. Please provide the requested information. Please note that 5 man teams, first responder policies and hall-boss responses are all public knowledge, and have been shown on national television. We don’t believe that disclosing the policy of SWAT team response in Jefferson County will be of any detriment or danger to the officers in the county. Actually, any revealed policy will be better than the example shown at Columbine on Apr. 20th, 1999. Perhaps the existence of an effective SWAT policy would actually be a deterrent. Are officers allowed to fire into a school at unidentified targets in Jefferson County, or is that only the policy of the Denver Police Dept.? Please provide the requested information.
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PostSubject: Re: Columbine Records Review Task Force 2002   Sat Dec 31, 2016 11:06 pm


39. Policy changes to the Jefferson County Diversion Program instituted by D.A. Dave Thomas or any other party showing that the errors and policy failures by the diversion program and the District Attorney’s office from 1998 have been corrected.


JCSO RESPONSE: Please contact the District Attorney for that information.


BROWN RESPONSE: We have been told by Dave Thomas that these policy changes (if they exist) have all been verbal. Not exactly a comforting thought.
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PostSubject: Re: Columbine Records Review Task Force 2002   Sat Dec 31, 2016 11:06 pm


40. A copy of the search warrant affidavit for the home of Dylan Klebold from the Brown complaint of March 18,1998.


JCSO RESPONSE: This is the same question as [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]. Again, no affidavit exists for the Klebold residence for March / April 1998.


BROWN RESPONSE: You are stating that no search warrant affidavit exists for the Klebold home for the months of March and April of 1998. Does a search warrant affidavit for the Klebold home exist for January or February or May or any other month prior to Apr. 20th 1999? Your response appears evasive. Please supply us with a copy of any and all existing or prepared search warrants or affidavits for search warrants for the Klebold home prior to Apr. 20th 1999.
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PostSubject: Re: Columbine Records Review Task Force 2002   Sat Dec 31, 2016 11:07 pm


41. Copies of any and all associated paperwork from Det. John Hicks relating to Eric Harris, Dylan Klebold, case 98-3364, case 98-5504, case 99-7625, Kevin Foy and the Harris or the Klebold family.


JCSO RESPONSE: This is the same question as [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]. Again, all redacted reports in the possession of the Jefferson County Sheriff’s Office have been released.


BROWN RESPONSE: Please see the response to question [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.].
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PostSubject: Re: Columbine Records Review Task Force 2002   Sat Dec 31, 2016 11:07 pm


42. An internal affairs investigation by the Browns was initiated. This investigation was denied. We are requesting a written statement by the Sheriff's Dept, denying, in writing, this requested investigation, along with any interviews and records pertaining to this investigation. Contact the Internal Affairs Division of Jeffco.


JCSO RESPONSE: Investigations brought to the Jefferson County Internal Affairs Unit are not released to the public. The Jefferson County Policy and Procedure Manual states that “Internal Affairs investigations, records and related information are confidential, and shall not be discussed or disclosed to any person except as required for official Sheriff’s Office business”.


BROWN RESPONSE: The result of the investigation is not even given to the complaining party. Incredible. It seems reasonable that responding to the complaining party would be Official Sheriff’s Office Business. I guess that is not the policy under Sheriff Stone. Please provide the requested information.
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PostSubject: Re: Columbine Records Review Task Force 2002   Sat Dec 31, 2016 11:07 pm


43. A full report listing the training schedule and programs attended by the Jefferson County SWAT team. This would include any first responder training and "hall boss" training. This information will be released to the committee for review and recommendations as to further training.


JCSO RESPONSE: Release of certain SWAT information could jeopardize the safety of officers. SWAT Officers receive training as a group, however, an individual officer can also request to take additional training subject to approval. The Review Committee’s role is to review and recommend release of documents. The Review Committee does not have a role in determining appropriate training.


BROWN RESPONSE: Very true. This request was made as a citizen of Jefferson County. I suppose it is unreasonable to know, as a citizen, what training our officers are provided with. This request was made because we have been told that no training exists for these officers. We would request that these officers be well trained, and that this training would be at the expense of the Sheriff’s Office. We hope that this is the case. We do not see how releasing the SWAT team training does any harm to the SWAT team. A well-trained SWAT team is a deterrent to crime, and provides for the safety of citizens and policemen. Please provide the requested information.
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PostSubject: Re: Columbine Records Review Task Force 2002   Sat Dec 31, 2016 11:09 pm


44. A release of the time line prepared by Jefferson County as to Harris and Klebold's movements before and during April 20, 1999. This would include any time line prepared by Jeffco. In any form.


JCSO RESPONSE: The time line specific to the events of April 20, 1999 was released on the Final Report CD-ROM. The detailed reports from the Investigative Files, which have been previously released, contain details on dates, times and other information.


BROWN RESPONSE: It was our understanding that the time line requested was shredded. We have received the B.A.T.F. timeline from the B.A.T.F. We would ask why you shredded the time-line that you had prepared? Did you take photos or maintain a record of said time-line? Please provide the requested information.

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45. Minutes, notes and recordings from any meeting at Jefferson County Schools or Jefferson County Sheriff’s Office where dangerous behavior or threats by Eric Harris or Dylan Klebold were ever mentioned.


JCSO RESPONSE: No such notes exist in the Investigative files. Please contact specific individuals or R-1 School District for any documents they may have in their possession.


BROWN RESPONSE: Dep. Gardner was an employee of the sheriff’s dept. Please provide a copy of any and all reports generated or received by Dep. Gardner regarding Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold. It may interest you to know that these files do exist. Dep. Gardner told us in person that he had received files from the sheriff’s dept. on Eric Harris regarding the death threats made on the internet. Why do you not have these files? Why have you not released these files? It is not our responsibility to contact individuals for information in your files. Please provide the requested information.
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PostSubject: Re: Columbine Records Review Task Force 2002   Sat Dec 31, 2016 11:10 pm


46. Existing research and results of research as presented by Dave Thomas to victims' families, from reports initialed by the Browns. Said results were displayed at a meeting, but have never been released to the Browns or the families.


JCSO RESPONSE: The Jefferson County Sheriff’s Office does not possess any such documents. Please contact the District Attorney’s Office for any documents they may possess.


BROWN RESPONSE: We have requested these reports from Dave Thomas.
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PostSubject: Re: Columbine Records Review Task Force 2002   Sat Dec 31, 2016 11:10 pm


47. Dates and sign-in sheets regarding Time reporter Tim Roche during his visit to the Jefferson County Sheriff’s Dept, and his review of the “basement tapes " and other evidence.


JCSO RESPONSE: The Jefferson County Sheriff’s Office does not have any documents with this information. Please contact Time Magazine or Tim Roche for any documents they may possess.


BROWN RESPONSE: Mr. Roche was allowed full and complete access to the “basement tapes" and no records were kept? A deputy or investigator was in the room with him. Please provide the notes from this deputy or investigator or any attending personnel and records from Sheriff Stone and Kate Battan regarding any conversations with Mr. Roche.
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PostSubject: Re: Columbine Records Review Task Force 2002   Sat Dec 31, 2016 11:10 pm


48. Notes from the daily meetings during the investigation. Notes of these meetings were taken by at least two investigators during the meetings, and have not been released in any form.


JCSO RESPONSE: No such notes exist in the Investigative Files. Please contact specific individuals for any notes they may have in their possession.


BROWN RESPONSE: We have a statement from an F.B.I. agent that these meetings took place, and that two investigators took copious notes. These meetings were attended by lead investigators. Why do you not have these notes? Why have you not released them? You should have these notes, and it is not our responsibility to contact specific individuals for any notes. The FBI agent informed us that Kate Battan was present at these daily meetings. She is well aware of the process, and items being requested. Many reports from investigators were given orally to the group, and two investigators made complete notes. It is not possible that Ms. Battan is unaware of this process, as she was reportedly present as it happened. As lead investigator she should have a copy of these notes, or know where to obtain them. Please provide the requested information.
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PostSubject: Re: Columbine Records Review Task Force 2002   Sat Dec 31, 2016 11:10 pm


49. A copy of the twelve pages retrieved by Det. John Hicks as referenced in the affidavit for the search warrant of Eric Harris' home.


JCSO RESPONSE: All documents relating to 98-5504 have been released. There were eleven pages of web page information supplied with the report. These are the only pages attached to the report. There are not twelve.


BROWN RESPONSE: Quote from the search warrant: “consisting of 12 pages retrieved from Eric David Harris’ web site.” Please provide the 12 pages as referenced in the search warrant, or an admission that the sworn testimony in the search warrant is false.
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PostSubject: Re: Columbine Records Review Task Force 2002   Sat Dec 31, 2016 11:11 pm


50. Verification that Detective John Hicks did complete a class in computer crime in 1997 or 1998.


JCSO RESPONSE: Course notes and completions are maintained in personnel files which are not available under the Open Records Act.


BROWN RESPONSE: Acknowledged.
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PostSubject: Re: Columbine Records Review Task Force 2002   Sat Dec 31, 2016 11:11 pm


51. A resume and list of qualifications for Lt. John Kiekbusch as stated prior to April 20, 1999.


JCSO RESPONSE: Jefferson County Sheriff’s Office does not have a resume for Division Chief Kiekbusch on file.


BROWN RESPONSE: No resume exists for former Division Chief John Kiekbusch? Very interesting. We have a recently obtained a copy of Alfred John Kiekbusch Jr.’s resume/job application from the Sheriffs Dept. Perhaps you didn't know his first name was Alfred. Since you have misplaced yours, would you like us to supply you a copy? It does mention his four indictments for: Felony theft, Conspiracy, Offering false instruments, and Vehicle registration violation. Would you like a copy of his arrest record? We will be glad to supply it to you, after completing all necessary redactions of course.
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PostSubject: Re: Columbine Records Review Task Force 2002   Sat Dec 31, 2016 11:11 pm


52. A copy of the certification test taken by John Stone after his election. This would include all tests and results pertaining to his certification and requirements.


JCSO RESPONSE: The test is written and administered by the POST Board. A copy of this test is not given to the applicant to keep. Please contact the POST Board for certification requirements and test information. Sheriff Stone did pass the certification test in 1999.


BROWN RESPONSE: Do you have any information on how many times Mr. Stone had to take this test before passing it? We have been informed that he did not pass the test the first time, and received “special treatment” in order to pass. Can you confirm this?
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PostSubject: Re: Columbine Records Review Task Force 2002   Sat Dec 31, 2016 11:12 pm


53. Pages are missing from the consecutive numbered release of documents. Page 15872 is the final page released, constituting the final released page of the photographic log. The recently released FBI maps are labeled with evidence number 15910. Please provide the missing pages, or an explanation why the numbers 15873 through 15909 are missing.


JCSO RESPONSE: JC-001-015873 to JC-C01-015904 are the Arvada Police Department reports that were released subsequent to Mr. Brown’s Open Record request at the Arvada Police department. The Jefferson County Sheriff’s Office Bate Stamped (numbered) those reports that we didn’t previously have for tracking purposes. JC-001-015905 to JC-OOI-015909 is the CBI report regarding the testing of a bullet found in Corey DePooter’s backpack.


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PostSubject: Re: Columbine Records Review Task Force 2002   Sat Dec 31, 2016 11:12 pm


54. Any and all phone records used in this investigation.


JCSO RESPONSE: The Court initially sealed all Columbine search warrants. The Jefferson County Sheriff’s Office is currently reviewing the remaining warrants for redaction and release and will seek direction from the Court prior to doing so.


BROWN RESPONSE: Acknowledged. Please release the requested information upon the court’s approval.
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55. The Denver shoot team investigation as completed by Denver P.D. and not released.


JCSO RESPONSE: The Jefferson County Sheriff’s Office does not have any knowledge of any investigation conducted by the Denver Police Department Shoot Team. Please contact the Denver Police Department regarding any investigation or documents they may have.


BROWN RESPONSE: The Denver Shoot Team Review has been released. How did you complete a thorough investigation without this information? Did JCSO do a shoot team review of the murders and police response on Apr. 20th 1999? How did you complete a thorough investigation without this information?
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PostSubject: Re: Columbine Records Review Task Force 2002   Sat Dec 31, 2016 11:12 pm


56. The complete report from the Valeen Schnurr interview as referenced on page 148.


JCSO RESPONSE: Arvada Police Department Detective Russ Boatright interviewed Valeen Schnurr and wrote an 11-page report. In the report Detective Boatright notes that Valeen Schnurr described her evacuation in detail however, he did not include that information in his report.


BROWN RESPONSE: Please contact the investigating officer and ask him to write a supplemental report that is comprehensive and complete, and that describes the treatment received by Ms. Schnurr from the police personnel on the scene on Apr. 20, 1999.
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PostSubject: Re: Columbine Records Review Task Force 2002   Sat Dec 31, 2016 11:13 pm


57. The fire department tripwire report from Blackjack Pizza (1997, 1998, 1999).


JCSO RESPONSE: The Jefferson County Sheriff’s Office does not have any such documents. Please contact the Fire Department for those records.


BROWN RESPONSE: It was our understanding that a trip wire device is a felony. Was a report prepared by the J.C.S.O.? Is it (the policy of the J.C.S.O. to not report or make files on explosive devices when reported? Do the Fire Department and the JCSO communicate when an explosive device is found? Please release the requested information.
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PostSubject: Re: Columbine Records Review Task Force 2002   Sat Dec 31, 2016 11:13 pm


58. Field notes from deputies in the southern corridor for the time span of March 7, 1998 through March 17, 1998.


JCSO RESPONSE: The Jefferson County Sheriff’s Office does not have a catalog of officer notes. Generally, an officer does not keep notes after a report is written.


BROWN RESPONSE: Field notes are kept by deputies for long periods of time. Specifically, they may be called Daily Field Activity Reports, or DFAR. Please provide the requested DFARS. In addition, please provide the corresponding time-logs maintained by dispatch for the requested time period, along with officers time records.
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PostSubject: Re: Columbine Records Review Task Force 2002   Sat Dec 31, 2016 11:13 pm


59. Officer Healey’s notes and report for case file [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]. 98-3365 and 99-7625.Reference press release by Sheriff’s Department/District Attorney‘s office of approx. May 1, 1999.


JCSO RESPONSE: Investigator Healy did not write reports for cases 98-3365 or 98-5504. Any reports he wrote regarding the Columbine High School shooting, 99-7625, have been released. Investigator Healy does not have any notes from these three cases.


BROWN RESPONSE: Officer Healy was reported to be an investigating officer on at least one of these cases, per a press conference held by Division Chief Kiekbush. Please provide his notes and reports and all A.O.L. investigative material, particularly those used to obtain the search warrants for Apr. 20, 1999. We did notice that, in this case, you contacted Deputy Healey about his notes. Please contact the other parties named in these questions for their notes and files.
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PostSubject: Re: Columbine Records Review Task Force 2002   Sat Dec 31, 2016 11:14 pm


60. Report from Del. John Kiekbusch for April 20, 1999.


JCSO RESPONSE: Division Chief Kiekbusch did not write a report for case number 99-7625.


BROWN RESPONSE: Former Division Chief John Kiekbush did not write a report on the Columbine incident, an active murder investigation? He was on scene, and reportedly in command. The person in command for part of the day on April 20, 1999 did not prepare a written report? Please provide any and all reports generated by former Division Chief Kiekbush for Apr. 20, 1999, prepared on that date or on any subsequent date.
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