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PostSubject: Frank DeAngeils' Statement   Sun Jan 15, 2017 11:41 pm


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PROGRESS REPORT
CHS INCIDENT/CONTROL [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]
REPORT BY JACKLYN GEE (ACSO)

On 051799 this Investigator responded to Chatfield High School to meet with the principal of CHS identified as:

DeAngelis, Frank
DOB: 101554
9815 S. Spring Hill St.
Highlands Ranch, CO 80126
Ph# 303 470-3583

Also present during the interview was Investigator Russ Boatright, with Arvada Police Department.

On 050499, this Investigator bad received information that a group of boys bad detonated an unidentified explosive in a field on 041199 (see Control # 2333). On 043099, this Investigator had also received information that a group of boys fitting the same description were overheard talking at CHS on 041999 about detonating something on 042099 (see Control [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]). This Investigator was also advised that during the latter incident. Mr. DeAngelis had asked the same group of boys to quiet down due to their rowdy behavior.

This Investigator questioned Mr. DeAngelis about the aforementioned incident that had occurred on 041999 Mr. DeAngelis advised the following:

That he had been contacted by Barb Larsen. who he had interviewed for a teaching position on 041999, in regards to the aforementioned sometime last week. That Larsen advised him that she saw 3 tall kids that day wearing dusters and talking about detonating something and as she walked by them they said, "shhhh", then exited the building, whooping and hollering.

That Larsen also described one person in the group as having white hair and black eyebrows. That he does not recall asking anyone to be quiet prior to his interview with Larsen and further advised that he would have recalled that if they were being as rowdy as described by Larsen.

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PostSubject: Re: Frank DeAngeils' Statement   Sun Jan 15, 2017 11:41 pm


That he stated that he does not believe that he is "blanking" anything out and feels that if it occurred, he would have remembered it.

That he recalls stepping out of his office to meet Larsen, who was sitting in the office area waiting for her interview, then after greeting her, they went into his office where he interviewed her. That he does not recall any kids at CHS that fit the description of the subject described by Larsen.

At that point, Mr. DeAngelis advised that his secretary, identified as:

White, Susan
DOB: 031351

may recall the incident and requested that she step into his office. White advised that she did not recall seeing Larsen and also did not recall any incident where Mr. DeAngelis had stepped out of his office to quiet students that day. White also stated that she may have left at 1515 that day, prior to Larsen's arrival.

Mr. DeAngelis stated that on the advice of his attorney, he was not free to discuss specific disciplinary matters involving any students of CHS. However, Mr. DeAngelis shared the following information on students at CHS that were associated with Harris and Klebold, which is as follows:

That he did not know Harris or Klebold personally, although recognized them at sight.

That he had a lot of contact with Chris Morris, which may be of interest to this Investigator

That he also had a lot of contact with Eric Dutro. which may also be of interest to this Investigator.

That he was also familiar with Joe Stair, who associated with Morris and Dutro last year.

That he knew Brooks Brown very well as he dealt with him a lot concerning a play that Brown was trying to get produced and further advised that Brown referred to him as "Mr. D" and described their relationship as good, stating that he was shocked by Brown's comments to the media.

That he further advised that the Brown family had never talked to him about any threats made against Brooks Brown.
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PostSubject: Re: Frank DeAngeils' Statement   Sun Jan 15, 2017 11:41 pm


That he was not aware if Brown associated with Harris or Klebold although related that in the Fall of 1998, Brown brought a subject into his office regarding lighting issues for his play that may have been Harris or Klebold (which he based on assumption due to his knowledge that they did lighting).

That he knew Brian Sargent by face only, and had no other contact with him.

That he did not know Nate Dykeman or Robyn Anderson at all.

That prior to this incident, he did not know Alexandra Marsh, although recently had the opportunity to meet her stating that she is very vocal, blasting the administration, and a "real bitter girl".

That he has known Zach Heckler for the past 4 years and described him as a computer genius, stating that there may be some information of interest to this Investigator, relating to Heckler.

That he did not personally know Robert Perry, although some people at school were upset with Perry because he had associated with Harris and Klebold.

That last school year, he recalled that Morris, Stair, and Dutro wore the black trench coats and black attire, although does not recall seeing the black trench coats being worn by students this school year.

That based on prior behavior, he felt that [redacted] would be capable of something like this, although had no knowledge that they associated with Harris and Klebold.

That Dutro dropped out of school last year and he hasn't seen him since, adding that he would not be allowed on campus.

That Stair graduated last year, although he saw him last week when Stair came to the school to pick up his sister, Amanda.

That Mr. DeAngeljs stated that he had no knowledge of the "poem and video" which have been addressed by the media.

That he has been with the school district since 1979, which included teaching social studies, coaching, dean of students, and for the last 3 years he has acted as principal.
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PostSubject: Re: Frank DeAngeils' Statement   Sun Jan 15, 2017 11:41 pm


That in regards to the "jocks" taunting anyone, he related that he heard rumor that last year, Dutro and Stair used to provoke the "jocks" by dancing in front of them, grabbing each others butts/groin area, and kiss each other.

That he suggested that this Investigator speak to the Dean of Students, Pete Horvath, who may have more information on the students in question.

That Mr. DeAngelis expressed a desire to cooperate with this investigation.
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PostSubject: Re: Frank DeAngeils' Statement   Sun Jan 15, 2017 11:42 pm


On 05/17/99 Detective Boatright (IO) was requested to assist Investigator Jackie Gee with the Arapahoe County Sheriff's Office regarding DN#2991 requesting they contact and interview Columbine High School Principal Frank DeAngelis (DOB: 10/15/54). In brief, IO was requested to assist Investigator Gee with the interview of Frank DeAngelis in terms of detailing his activities on 04/20/99.
Investigator Gee also wanted to pursue issues regarding the forenamed's knowledge of any associates to Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold. It was agreed IO would be responsible for reporting information related to Frank DeAngelis' activities on 04/20/99 while Investigator Gee would document the information related to the suspect associates.

On O5/17/99 at approximately 1400 hours, IO, along with Investigator Gee, responded to Chatfield High School located at 7227 South Simms Street, Littleton, Colorado. Upon arrival at that location, IO along with Investigator Gee met with Columbine High School Principal Frank DeAngelis. Frank DeAngelis listed his work address as Columbine High School, 6201 South Pierce Street, Littleton, Colorado, phone 982-4400, while his home address is identified as 9815 South Springhill Street, Highlands Ranch, Colorado, 80126. Frank DeAngelis was briefed as to the nature of questions he was going to be asked and subsequently agreed to provide full cooperation.

IO began the interview by asking Frank DeAngelis to provide an account of his day on 04/20/99. Frank DeAngelis stated on the date in question, he actually left his residence en route for the "DECCA breakfast" which was being held at the "Wilshire Inn" located near "Hampden and Colorado Boulevard." Frank DeAngelis explained the aforementioned breakfast was a scheduled event and many students as well as faculty attended. Frank DeAngelis described the aforementioned event as something comparable to a banquet for those individuals who participated in the DECCA program. IO verified with Frank DeAngelis he did not respond to Columbine High School prior to going to the DECCA breakfast.

Frank DeAngelis stated he believed he had left the DECCA breakfast sometime around 1030 hour that morning. Frank DeAngelis stated he drove straight from the Wilshire Inn to Columbine High School. Frank DeAngelis stated he then parked his vehicle on the north/west side of the school near the band room entrance. According to Frank DeAngelis, the aforementioned location was where he normally parked when arriving at school.
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PostSubject: Re: Frank DeAngeils' Statement   Sun Jan 15, 2017 11:42 pm


Frank DeAngelis stated upon arrival at school, he then responded to his office where he had planned on meeting with Arthur Leyba (known by the name of Kiki), who is presently employed in the English Department at Columbine High School. Frank DeAngelis explained "Kiki" was on a one year contract and it was his intention to offer the forenamed a full time position at Columbine High School. Frank DeAngelis then eluded to the fact on the previous day (Monday - 4/19/99), he had met with "Kiki" and another applicant identified as Barb Larson, who both were applying for the English position which had come open at Columbine High School. Frank DeAngelis verified after interviewing both the forenamed candidates, he chose "Kiki" to fill the open English position. Investigator Gee did verify with Frank DeAngelis Arthur Leyba was interviewed at Columbine High School sometime around 1430 hours on Monday followed by Barb Larson's interview at 1515 hours. See Investigator Gee's report for details related to this situation involving Barb Larson.

Continuing with Frank DeAngelis' account of 04/20/99, the forenamed related after he arrived at his office, he believed he engaged in some miscellaneous activity which he was unable to specifically recall. Frank DeAngelis did state he knew he wanted to meet with "Kiki" as soon as possible and subsequently left his office and walked to the English area of the school located off the south hall. Prank DeAngelis stated he was unable to locate "Kiki" near or around the English Department and recalled then looking for the forenamed at various other locations at the school, Frank DeAngelis explained he was unsuccessful in initially locating "Kiki" and subsequently returned to his office. Frank DeAngelis did state he had left word with various individuals he was looking for "Kiki" and if seen, the forenamed was to report to his office. Frank DeAngelis recalled "Kiki" arriving at his office sometime "near the end of fourth hour." Frank DeAngelis further speculated Arthur "Kiki" Leyba arrived at his office sometime around 1110 hours that date.

Frank DeAngelis next explained this date was somewhat unusual due to the fact he had tended the DECCA breakfast and he was attempting to meet with Arthur Leyba. Frank DeAngelis added if this had been a normal day, his routine would have been to go to the library no later than 1115 hours, Frank DeAngelis explained due to the meeting he began with Arthur Leyba sometime around 1110 hours, he knew he was not going to get down to the commons area prior to the start of A lunch/5th period. Frank DeAngelis speculated he met with Arthur Leyba for approximately ten minutes, during which time he offered the forenamed the English position. According to Frank DeAngelis, Arthur Leyba accepted the job offer. IO confirmed with Frank DeAngelis other than the activity noted above, he did not recall any other unusual occurrences that date.
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PostSubject: Re: Frank DeAngeils' Statement   Sun Jan 15, 2017 11:42 pm


Frank DeAngelis reiterated he believed he had met with Arthur Leyba for approximately ten minutes, after which he then left his office en route to the commons area. Frank DeAngelis speculated he left his office sometime around 1120 hours that date. Frank DeAngelis told IO he recalled almost immediately upon leaving the front office area, he "knew something was strange." When asked to elaborate, Frank DeAngelia told IO he did not recall seeing anyone at the "phone banks" in the north hall. Frank DeAngelis told IO that normally this was a particularly busy area especially during the start of A lunch. Frank DeAngelis reiterated the situation was "strange" in that the phone bank in the north hallway area near the entrance was not active with students. According to Frank DeAngelis, he did not recall seeing any students located in the north hall area after exiting the main office.

Frank DeAngelis told IO moments after exiting the office and proceeding west down the north hall, he heard Susan White (secretary to DeAngelis) exit the office and yell down to him, "There's gunfire in the cafeteria." Frank DeAngelis stated he knew Susan White was serious but also recalled thinking, "This couldn't be happening." Frank DeAngelis told IO his initial reaction was to tell Susan White to return to the office and "call 911." According to Frank DeAngelis, Susan White immediately complied with his request.

When asked where he was located at the point Susan White advised him of the shooting, Frank DeAngelis stated he was somewhere near the "trophy case" which is located a short distance west of the entrance to the school/main office area. Frank DeAngelis explained he was in the process of proceeding westbound down the main hall (north hall) which required him to pass the trophy case. Frank DeAngelis clarified the trophy case was located east of the phone banks he had previously mentioned.

Frank DeAngelis went on to state after being provided with the information per Susan White, he began walking more briskly en route to the commons area in order to assess the situation. Frank DeAngelis stated based on his recollection, as soon as he turned back around (after contact with Susan White) and proceeded westbound, he saw a figure of an individual down towards the far west end of the north hall. Frank DeAngelis stated the individual was near the west exit/entrance outside. When asked if he could identify that individual, Frank DeAngelis responded in the negative. Frank DeAngelis stated he could not even state for certain the individual was a male but did believe the person was "tall and slender," possibly wearing a "white cap (referring to a ball cap) turned backwards." Frank DeAngelis also thought that individual was wearing a white t-shirt with a black vest. Frank DeAngelis reiterated he could not see the individual well enough to confirm the person's sex or identity.
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PostSubject: Re: Frank DeAngeils' Statement   Sun Jan 15, 2017 11:43 pm


Frank DeAngelis went on to state almost as soon as he had made the above observation, he then began to hear a "pop" sound. According to Frank DeAngelis, the "pop" sound was not any type of "rapid fire" and may have only been a single shot. IO confirmed with Frank DeAngelis that he believed the "pop" sound was gunfire. Frank DeAngelis stated it was his speculation the individual he could see at the far west entrance was the individual firing the weapon. Frank DeAngelis stated he could not describe the weapon being fired but believed the individual was holding it with two hands at the time. Frank DeAngelis did state it appeared to him as though when the weapon was initially fired, the suspect had pointed the muzzle of the gun up in the air, however, the next shots were fired at the exterior west doors which then entered into the "vestibule." IO clarified with Frank DeAngelis he was describing the two sets of doors which lead out from the west entrance/exit. IO further clarified with Frank DeAngelis when he initially observed the individual described above, that person was standing outside the school at the west entrance. IO subsequently provided Frank DeAngelis with a diagram of the upper and lower levels of Columbine High School. IO subsequently asked Frank DeAngelis to diagram his movements related to this incident. IO also requested Frank DeAngelis identify the location where he initially saw the suspect described above. IO would note Frank DeAngelis again indicated the suspect was outside the west entrance/exit of the school at the time he was initially observed. For purposes of clarification, the west entrance/exit leads into the north hallway.

Frank DeAngelis reported around the time he observed the suspect shoot up into the air and then into the building (as noted above), he began to hear female voices. Frank DeAngelis stated specifically he began to hear "girls giggling." Frank DeAngelis identified the location of the females as being in the hall leading into the gym which was northwest of his location. Frank DeAngelis told IO based on the fact the female students were laughing, he concluded they had no idea there was someone at the school with a gun. Frank DeAngelis stated he was very concerned that the females may possibly walk out into the north hall and be in the direct line of fire of the suspect who had just fired into the school. Frank DeAngelis stated he then moved quickly further north in the hall and then right down an adjacent hallway which led to the gym area. Frank DeAngelis pointed out as he moved in the manner indicated, he was very concerned the suspect may possibly identify him as the principal and then give chase. Frank DeAngelis stated at the time he had no idea who the suspect was or why he was shooting at the school but felt being the principal, he was a potential target.

Frank DeAngelis continued with his explanation by stating after proceeding down the hall to the gym area, he then located approximately 15 to 20 female students coming out of the girls locker room. Frank DeAngelis stated he immediately told the students there was gunfire in the school and directed them into the gym, Frank DeAngelis stated the gym door was locked requiring he use a key to gain entry. Frank DeAngelis stated he has approximately 20 keys on his key ring and "amazingly" selected the appropriate key on his first try Frank DeAngelis clarified he then escorted the female students into the gym area, after which they were directed over to the west side storage area. Frank DeAngelis stated he believed the storage area would be a safe place for the students to take cover due to the fact the doors were metal and they locked- Frank DeAngelis subsequently had the girls enter the storage area, after which he locked the door behind them. Frank DeAngelis stated prior to leaving the girls he then told them not to open the door for any reason unless they were provided with a specific code word. Frank DeAngelis stated at the present time he could not recall the code word but believed it was "orange something."
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PostSubject: Re: Frank DeAngeils' Statement   Sun Jan 15, 2017 11:43 pm


Frank DeAngelis stated after securing the female students in the storage room, he then proceeded out the north gym door which led outside the school. Frank DeAngelis stated after exiting the gym, he then observed a large number of students exiting the school via an entrance/exit located to the east of the gym. IO would note the aforementioned entrance/exit is located near the post graduate center/counseling offices.

Frank DeAngelis told IO as the group of students exited the school, they then proceeded north cowards Clement Park. Frank DeAngelis stated at the time he began to notice the students, he also noticed several faculty members whom he identified as Mr. Marshall, Mr. Place, Mr. McCally and Ms. Baumgardner. Frank DeAngelis stated as he moved towards the aforementioned faculty members (easterly direction), he advised the forenamed he had secured numerous female students in the gym storage area. Frank DeAngelis told IO he was unable to obtain much if any additional information from the faculty or students who were fleeing the school, other than to corroborate the fact there appeared to be someone on the premises firing a weapon. Frank DeAngelis related as he realized it would be much safer for students if they were able to flee the school into the park, he then decided to go back into the gym and re-contact the girls who were locked in the storage area.

Frank DeAngelis confirmed he then reentered the school via the north gym door and subsequently unlocked the metal storage doors and directed approximately 15 to 20 female students in the direction of Clement Park. Frank DeAngelis stated he remained with the aforementioned students and continued on into Clement Park. When asked if he was able to make any additional observations prior to fleeing the school, Frank DeAngelis stated it was around that time frame (when he reentered the gym) that he believed he had seen the fire alarm strobe lights flashing. Frank DeAngelis did not comment in terms of hearing any sounds associated with the fire alarm lights. IO subsequently clarified with Frank DeAngelis he along with the female students and additional faculty members (previously named) all proceeded north into Clement Park where they remained until the police arrived.

Frank DeAngelis estimated approximately ten minutes had passed from the time he originally exited his office to the point he saw the first police car arrive on scene. Frank DeAngelis described the Jefferson County unit coming into the area from Pierce Street and then traveling west along the north side of the school. Frank DeAngelis identified the police unit as being a Jefferson County Sheriff's deputy's vehicle which was beige in color, however, was unmarked. Frank DeAngelis stated the aforementioned vehicle subsequently drove over toward the soccer and football fields and ended up near a shed area located on the west side of the school. Frank DeAngelis stated moments later he observed a marked Jefferson County S.O. vehicle arrive on scene which also drove over to the area near the shed on the west side of the school. Frank DeAngelis stated both vehicles stopped at that point and he believed either one or both of the sheriff's deputies who had just arrived on scene ran towards the shed and drew their weapons. Frank DeAngelis stated by this point, he did not see any additional students or staff leaving the building and making their way towards Clement Park.
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PostSubject: Re: Frank DeAngeils' Statement   Sun Jan 15, 2017 11:43 pm


Frank DeAngelis then described he along with other faculty and students then began to move near a fence which was located at Clement Park near the smoking area. Frank DeAngelis stated everyone then climbed the fence and proceeded further into Clement Park. Frank DeAngelis pointed out he was the last one to climb the fence insuring that no students or faculty were left behind.

Frank DeAngelis related soon thereafter he was able to make contact with a park employee and subsequently used that person's cell phone to call Barb Monseu (supervisor to DeAngelis) and advise her of the situation. According to Frank DeAngelis, Barb Monseu requested that he meet with her in the area of Bowles and Pierce (north/east side of Clement Park) where they could further assess this situation and provide assistance to law enforcement if necessary.

Frank DeAngelis related he then made his way through Clement Park to the area near Bowles and Pierce. Frank DeAngelis stated around the time he arrived at that location, he began to see police blocking off the streets. Frank DeAngelis stated he subsequently made contact with law enforcement and began to assist them by diagraming the school and surrounding area. Frank DeAngelis summarized that situation by indicating he remained in and around that location for approximately eight hours providing assistance to law enforcement. Pursuant to questioning, Frank DeAngelis stated he could not recall each specific person he spoke with but knew he was assisting various agencies with their requests. Frank DeAngelis reported at one point he heard the suspects had tentatively been identified as Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold. Frank DeAngelis recalled being provided with a yearbook and subsequently pointing out the two forenamed individuals to a law enforcement officer.

When asked if he had any additional information related to activities occurring in the school after he had left, Frank DeAngelis responded in the affirmative. Frank DeAngelis stated while on scene during the incident, he was aware Arthur "Kiki" Leyba was on a cell phone speaking to individuals in the English office. Frank DeAngelis stated based on that conversation, he was aware there was at least one student, seven teachers and one teacher's aid at that location. Frank DeAngelis was also aware there was a student located in the vocal music office who was using a cell phone to contact people on the outside. Frank DeAngelis recalled from that contact he believed the student was reporting he was still hearing gunshots sometime between 1300 and 1330 hours. Frank DeAngelis went on to state he had also heard there were at least four teachers located in the Foreign Language office during the time this incident occurred, Frank DeAngelis speculated there were also people located in the business area of the school who were also using cell phones to make contact with those on the outside.

When asked if he had spoken with any faculty members who indicated they had information directly related to this incident, Frank DeAngelis responded in the affirmative. Frank DeAngelis stated he recalled having a conversation with Joe Marshall, who indicated he had been fired at by a tall suspect somewhere near the counselors office. Frank DeAngelis stated he had no additional information concerning that incident. Frank DeAngelis did go on to state he had also spoken with another staff member identified as Rich Long, who reportedly had seen Dave Sanders shot in the hallway a short distance from the library/science area. Frank DeAngelis added he believed Richard Long had indicated he was in the library as the incident began. Frank DeAngelis pointed out it was his understanding after speaking with Rich Long, the forenamed had seen Dylan Klebold shoot Dave Sanders "in the back" during the course of this incident. Frank DeAngelis stated Rich Long is very familiar with Dylan Klebold in terms of being able to identify that individual.
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PostSubject: Re: Frank DeAngeils' Statement   Sun Jan 15, 2017 11:43 pm


Frank DeAngelis stated at the present time, he was unable to recall any additional details. Frank DeAngelis did indicate to IO and Investigator Gee this entire incident had been extremely stressful and chaotic. Frank DeAngelis went on to state even as of this date, things were still extremely stressful in terms of dealing with the incident, graduation and in general, and just maintaining some type of order for those students who were attempting to complete this year's schooling. Frank DeAngelis also eluded to outside issues created by family members whose children were involved in this incident. Frank DeAngelis then made specific reference to the Shoels and Brown family and made it very clear he had never spoken to either group in terms of any complaints or issues they had involving Columbine High School. IO did not pursue that issue with Frank DeAngelis at that time. Frank DeAngelis reiterated if an additional interview was required, he would comply with investigators' requests. IO subsequently concluded his portion of the interview.

IO would note Investigator Gee then pursued additional questions with Frank DeAngelis as it related to Barb Larson's job interview on the "Monday" preceding this incident. Investigator Gee also pursued issues with Frank DeAngelis as it related to associates of Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold. See Investigator Gee's report for details related to that aspect of the interview. In addition, see the diagram prepared by Frank DeAngelis for details concerning his movements within the school.
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