| 30 seconds to see any part of the basement tapes. | |
|
+9sympathyforEandD Jollyhelpful NeedaHaircut andthentherewas1 katherinex Lizpuff Pixie13 Screamingophelia slippy123 13 posters |
Author | Message |
---|
slippy123
Posts : 879 Contribution Points : 104663 Forum Reputation : 1235 Join date : 2015-08-25
| Subject: 30 seconds to see any part of the basement tapes. Wed Mar 06, 2019 7:51 pm | |
| Say you had the chance to see a 30 second clip of any part of the basement tapes, what would part would you choose to see? For me personally, there are a bunch of parts I'd like to see, but if I had to narrow it down, it would be Eric crying in his car. To me that is the most intriguing part, because it shows that he actually did have some sort of empathy and feelings towards what was going to ensue.
There has long been a debate if Eric was a true psychopath or not, and although we can't diagnose a deceased person, I think the part where he is reminiscing and shedding tears would bring a new perspective on my opinion about that subject.
What part of the tapes intrigue you the most?
Last edited by slippy123 on Wed Mar 06, 2019 10:01 pm; edited 1 time in total | |
|
| |
Screamingophelia Other Crimes Moderator & Top 10 Contributor
Posts : 6417 Contribution Points : 192899 Forum Reputation : 1317 Join date : 2017-08-26 Age : 42
| Subject: Re: 30 seconds to see any part of the basement tapes. Wed Mar 06, 2019 8:23 pm | |
| There are definitely several parts that I would love to see... candy house, Dylan almost shooting Eric in the head...
I’m torn on 30 seconds of the goodbye video and the infamous Dylan you’re Jewish part. _________________ "And you know, you know, you know, this can be beautiful, you say you're numb inside, but I can't agree. So the world's unfair, keep it locked out there. In here it's beautiful."
| |
|
| |
Pixie13
Posts : 176 Contribution Points : 55976 Forum Reputation : 270 Join date : 2018-09-08
| Subject: Re: 30 seconds to see any part of the basement tapes. Wed Mar 06, 2019 9:00 pm | |
| I remember Brooks Brown said on an AMA that if people saw the Basement Tapes the biggest thing it would do is humanize them both. I know Brooks is prone to hyperbole, but I suspect in this case he is probably right. | |
|
| |
Lizpuff
Posts : 2677 Contribution Points : 95424 Forum Reputation : 1190 Join date : 2016-03-02 Age : 36
| Subject: Re: 30 seconds to see any part of the basement tapes. Wed Mar 06, 2019 9:02 pm | |
| - slippy123 wrote:
- Say you had the chance to see a 30 second clip of any part of the basement tapes, what would part would you choose to see?
For me personally, there are a bunch of parts I'd like to see, but if I had to narrow it down, it would be Eric crying in his car. To me that is the most intriguing part, because it shows that he actually did have some sort of empathy and feelings towards what was going to ensue.
There has long been a debate about Eric being or true psychopath or not, and although we can't diagnose a deceased person, I think the part where he is reminiscing and shedding tears would bring a new perspective on my opinion about that subject.
What part of the tapes intrigue you the most? This is the part I thought of first Just to see how real it was. _________________ Hold me now I need to feel complete Like I matter to the one I need
| |
|
| |
Screamingophelia Other Crimes Moderator & Top 10 Contributor
Posts : 6417 Contribution Points : 192899 Forum Reputation : 1317 Join date : 2017-08-26 Age : 42
| Subject: Re: 30 seconds to see any part of the basement tapes. Wed Mar 06, 2019 9:27 pm | |
| - Pixie13 wrote:
- I remember Brooks Brown said on an AMA that if people saw the Basement Tapes the biggest thing it would do is humanize them both. I know Brooks is prone to hyperbole, but I suspect in this case he is probably right.
I agree I also think the things that they did release humanized them as well. I think they are the most humanized of all shooters _________________ "And you know, you know, you know, this can be beautiful, you say you're numb inside, but I can't agree. So the world's unfair, keep it locked out there. In here it's beautiful."
| |
|
| |
katherinex
Posts : 106 Contribution Points : 61136 Forum Reputation : 125 Join date : 2018-01-02
| Subject: Re: 30 seconds to see any part of the basement tapes. Wed Mar 06, 2019 9:34 pm | |
| I think I'd like to see the part when Eric allegedly tells Dylan to build on his rage, it would be interesting to see how Dylan reacted before, during and after that conversation with Eric. | |
|
| |
slippy123
Posts : 879 Contribution Points : 104663 Forum Reputation : 1235 Join date : 2015-08-25
| Subject: Re: 30 seconds to see any part of the basement tapes. Wed Mar 06, 2019 10:04 pm | |
| - Screamingophelia wrote:
- There are definitely several parts that I would love to see... candy house, Dylan almost shooting Eric in the head...
I’m torn on 30 seconds of the goodbye video and the infamous Dylan you’re Jewish part. I've seen you post about "candy house" before, what exactly is in that part of the tapes? I'd say that the "goodbye" portion would probably be a close second for me. It would be very interesting to see their body language such a short time before the actual shooting. The part where Dylan complains he looks "fat" with guns under his trench coat also is very interesting to me. It's literally a dress rehearsal for a mass shooting, and all he seemed to care about was how he looked, which is pretty wild to me. I wish the audio of the tapes were released, instead of having to rely on shoddy transcripts, but I think we all know that will never happen. - Pixie13 wrote:
- I remember Brooks Brown said on an AMA that if people saw the Basement Tapes the biggest thing it would do is humanize them both. I know Brooks is prone to hyperbole, but I suspect in this case he is probably right.
Good point, I agree with Brook's on that too. | |
|
| |
Screamingophelia Other Crimes Moderator & Top 10 Contributor
Posts : 6417 Contribution Points : 192899 Forum Reputation : 1317 Join date : 2017-08-26 Age : 42
| Subject: Re: 30 seconds to see any part of the basement tapes. Wed Mar 06, 2019 10:41 pm | |
| - slippy123 wrote:
- Screamingophelia wrote:
- There are definitely several parts that I would love to see... candy house, Dylan almost shooting Eric in the head...
I’m torn on 30 seconds of the goodbye video and the infamous Dylan you’re Jewish part. I've seen you post about "candy house" before, what exactly is in that part of the tapes?
I'd say that the "goodbye" portion would probably be a close second for me. It would be very interesting to see their body language such a short time before the actual shooting.
The part where Dylan complains he looks "fat" with guns under his trench coat also is very interesting to me. It's literally a dress rehearsal for a mass shooting, and all he seemed to care about was how he looked, which is pretty wild to me.
I wish the audio of the tapes were released, instead of having to rely on shoddy transcripts, but I think we all know that will never happen.
- Pixie13 wrote:
- I remember Brooks Brown said on an AMA that if people saw the Basement Tapes the biggest thing it would do is humanize them both. I know Brooks is prone to hyperbole, but I suspect in this case he is probably right.
Good point, I agree with Brook's on that too. For me, I have a bit of a theory on Dylan when it comes to what he was worried about when it came to getting ready for the massacre. On his to do list he wrote down get punk gloves , get the pants etc. he wanted to cultivate an image because this was going to be his swan song. I believe that’s the why he was acting the way he did as well. He wanted to be bad ass he wanted to look like he was in a movie and he was going to be remembered. So to him it didn’t fit into what he imagined he would look like when it came to his coat.. He wanted to look sleek, not have lumpy stuff underneath his coat As for the candy, I’ve only read it in one or two transcripts. I’m going to find it for you later on today when I get home. But it’s basically the camera was on Dylan and Eric. Eric is ranting about something and dylan was eating candy and playing with it and then he looks at the camera and he goes look guys, it’s a house. I would pay money to see Eric’s reaction to that.... _________________ "And you know, you know, you know, this can be beautiful, you say you're numb inside, but I can't agree. So the world's unfair, keep it locked out there. In here it's beautiful."
| |
|
| |
Screamingophelia Other Crimes Moderator & Top 10 Contributor
Posts : 6417 Contribution Points : 192899 Forum Reputation : 1317 Join date : 2017-08-26 Age : 42
| Subject: Re: 30 seconds to see any part of the basement tapes. Wed Mar 06, 2019 10:56 pm | |
| _________________ "And you know, you know, you know, this can be beautiful, you say you're numb inside, but I can't agree. So the world's unfair, keep it locked out there. In here it's beautiful."
| |
|
| |
andthentherewas1
Posts : 53 Contribution Points : 53761 Forum Reputation : 25 Join date : 2019-01-28 Location : America
| Subject: Re: 30 seconds to see any part of the basement tapes. Wed Mar 06, 2019 10:59 pm | |
| Mine would be when they list of people they hated. Maybe even targeted. | |
|
| |
slippy123
Posts : 879 Contribution Points : 104663 Forum Reputation : 1235 Join date : 2015-08-25
| Subject: Re: 30 seconds to see any part of the basement tapes. Wed Mar 06, 2019 11:32 pm | |
| - Screamingophelia wrote:
- slippy123 wrote:
- Screamingophelia wrote:
- There are definitely several parts that I would love to see... candy house, Dylan almost shooting Eric in the head...
I’m torn on 30 seconds of the goodbye video and the infamous Dylan you’re Jewish part. I've seen you post about "candy house" before, what exactly is in that part of the tapes?
I'd say that the "goodbye" portion would probably be a close second for me. It would be very interesting to see their body language such a short time before the actual shooting.
The part where Dylan complains he looks "fat" with guns under his trench coat also is very interesting to me. It's literally a dress rehearsal for a mass shooting, and all he seemed to care about was how he looked, which is pretty wild to me.
I wish the audio of the tapes were released, instead of having to rely on shoddy transcripts, but I think we all know that will never happen.
- Pixie13 wrote:
- I remember Brooks Brown said on an AMA that if people saw the Basement Tapes the biggest thing it would do is humanize them both. I know Brooks is prone to hyperbole, but I suspect in this case he is probably right.
Good point, I agree with Brook's on that too.
For me, I have a bit of a theory on Dylan when it comes to what he was worried about when it came to getting ready for the massacre. On his to do list he wrote down get punk gloves , get the pants etc. he wanted to cultivate an image because this was going to be his swan song. I believe that’s the why he was acting the way he did as well. He wanted to be bad ass he wanted to look like he was in a movie and he was going to be remembered. So to him it didn’t fit into what he imagined he would look like when it came to his coat.. He wanted to look sleek, not have lumpy stuff underneath his coat
As for the candy, I’ve only read it in one or two transcripts. I’m going to find it for you later on today when I get home. But it’s basically the camera was on Dylan and Eric. Eric is ranting about something and dylan was eating candy and playing with it and then he looks at the camera and he goes look guys, it’s a house.
I would pay money to see Eric’s reaction to that.... I'm definitely interested in seeing the "candy house" transcripts, as I don't remember ever reading anything about that specific exchange. I remember the part where they were munching on slim jims and drinking jack though. Your theory on why Dylan cared about his image makes a lot of sense. As a matter of fact it is a good analogy about the shooting as a whole. They seemingly worried about minor things, yet didn't take the time to master simple bomb making techniques, nor had a solid plan b. | |
|
| |
Lizpuff
Posts : 2677 Contribution Points : 95424 Forum Reputation : 1190 Join date : 2016-03-02 Age : 36
| Subject: Re: 30 seconds to see any part of the basement tapes. Thu Mar 07, 2019 12:13 am | |
| I just reread the transcripts and saw no mention of the house but I also saw no mention of spilling the DR Pepper so now I am really questioning what is or isn't in the original transcripts _________________ Hold me now I need to feel complete Like I matter to the one I need
| |
|
| |
Screamingophelia Other Crimes Moderator & Top 10 Contributor
Posts : 6417 Contribution Points : 192899 Forum Reputation : 1317 Join date : 2017-08-26 Age : 42
| Subject: Re: 30 seconds to see any part of the basement tapes. Thu Mar 07, 2019 1:17 am | |
| The link I posted above, I think it’s in there but it’s not a link to the official transcripts _________________ "And you know, you know, you know, this can be beautiful, you say you're numb inside, but I can't agree. So the world's unfair, keep it locked out there. In here it's beautiful."
| |
|
| |
NeedaHaircut
Posts : 64 Contribution Points : 47455 Forum Reputation : 40 Join date : 2019-03-01
| Subject: Re: 30 seconds to see any part of the basement tapes. Thu Mar 07, 2019 2:24 am | |
| I'd settle for just a still frame to see how it looked. I mean, we've all read the same transcripts, evidence, etc. and are drawing up our own visualizations in our heads based off that.
But to answer the question, I'd want my allotted 30s to be of the final recording to see how they acted when it was just about to get real. | |
|
| |
Jollyhelpful
Posts : 135 Contribution Points : 65369 Forum Reputation : 70 Join date : 2017-06-19 Age : 31 Location : Eastern Seaboard
| Subject: Re: 30 seconds to see any part of the basement tapes. Thu Mar 07, 2019 4:31 pm | |
| For me I'd narrow it down to either the final goodbye or the tour of Eric's room | |
|
| |
slippy123
Posts : 879 Contribution Points : 104663 Forum Reputation : 1235 Join date : 2015-08-25
| Subject: Re: 30 seconds to see any part of the basement tapes. Thu Mar 07, 2019 5:44 pm | |
| - Jollyhelpful wrote:
- For me I'd narrow it down to either the final goodbye or the tour of Eric's room
The tour of Eric's bedroom would probably be tied for second with Dylan talking about looking fat in his trench coat | |
|
| |
sympathyforEandD
Posts : 227 Contribution Points : 70444 Forum Reputation : 486 Join date : 2018-07-27
| Subject: Re: 30 seconds to see any part of the basement tapes. Fri Mar 08, 2019 5:39 pm | |
| I'd be cool with any part of it. Just seeing the boys' body language, facial expressions and how they bounced off eachother would be awesome. But in particular: The "spilling the Dr. Pepper" bit would be cool, since it showed how human they were. And the "tour of Eric's room" bit would be tres bien since I'd like to know what he saw when he woke up everyday. | |
|
| |
slippy123
Posts : 879 Contribution Points : 104663 Forum Reputation : 1235 Join date : 2015-08-25
| Subject: Re: 30 seconds to see any part of the basement tapes. Fri Mar 08, 2019 8:43 pm | |
| - sympathyforEandD wrote:
- I'd be cool with any part of it. Just seeing the boys' body language, facial expressions and how they bounced off eachother would be awesome. But in particular: The "spilling the Dr. Pepper" bit would be cool, since it showed how human they were. And the "tour of Eric's room" bit would be tres bien since I'd like to know what he saw when he woke up everyday.
I'd be happy with some still photos to be honest. I still don't understand why the audio was never released. I get the whole copycat thing, but nutcases are going to look up to them regardless if audio or video of their plan is released. Personally, I think we can learn a lot about them from those tapes. Too bad no one was crooked enough to make a copy of the tapes and sell them to the highest bidder, like they did the suicide photos. | |
|
| |
Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: 30 seconds to see any part of the basement tapes. Sat Mar 09, 2019 7:29 am | |
| - Jollyhelpful wrote:
- For me I'd narrow it down to either the final goodbye or the tour of Eric's room
I'd have to pick the final goodbye. |
|
| |
whyno
Posts : 130 Contribution Points : 67003 Forum Reputation : 50 Join date : 2017-04-01 Age : 28
| Subject: Re: 30 seconds to see any part of the basement tapes. Thu Mar 14, 2019 3:13 am | |
| I'd want to see Eric in his car when he gets emotional, or some of his room tour. Wow, I had never heard of the "candy house part. Haha if that is real, then that might be a close second to Eric tearing up | |
|
| |
Screamingophelia Other Crimes Moderator & Top 10 Contributor
Posts : 6417 Contribution Points : 192899 Forum Reputation : 1317 Join date : 2017-08-26 Age : 42
| Subject: Re: 30 seconds to see any part of the basement tapes. Thu Mar 14, 2019 3:51 am | |
| - whyno wrote:
- I'd want to see Eric in his car when he gets emotional, or some of his room tour.
Wow, I had never heard of the "candy house part. Haha if that is real, then that might be a close second to Eric tearing up I hope it is real, it does kind of show how goofy Dylan was, I think Sue is right, a lot of it is really just posturing. _________________ "And you know, you know, you know, this can be beautiful, you say you're numb inside, but I can't agree. So the world's unfair, keep it locked out there. In here it's beautiful."
| |
|
| |
slippy123
Posts : 879 Contribution Points : 104663 Forum Reputation : 1235 Join date : 2015-08-25
| Subject: Re: 30 seconds to see any part of the basement tapes. Fri Mar 15, 2019 1:29 am | |
| | |
|
| |
whyno
Posts : 130 Contribution Points : 67003 Forum Reputation : 50 Join date : 2017-04-01 Age : 28
| |
| |
slippy123
Posts : 879 Contribution Points : 104663 Forum Reputation : 1235 Join date : 2015-08-25
| Subject: Re: 30 seconds to see any part of the basement tapes. Fri Mar 15, 2019 5:49 am | |
| - whyno wrote:
- I can only imagine Eric's facial reaction to that
So bummed they never released any audio from the BT's. They release all these videos Nickolas Cruz recorded, yet no we get audio from a 20 year old crime. | |
|
| |
true_crime
Posts : 285 Contribution Points : 57799 Forum Reputation : 296 Join date : 2019-01-12 Location : Mountains & Molehills
| Subject: Re: 30 seconds to see any part of the basement tapes. Fri Mar 15, 2019 6:30 am | |
| Mine would have to be the “You’re Jewish?” section. Eric crying on his car would be second. | |
|
| |
slippy123
Posts : 879 Contribution Points : 104663 Forum Reputation : 1235 Join date : 2015-08-25
| Subject: Re: 30 seconds to see any part of the basement tapes. Fri Mar 15, 2019 6:52 pm | |
| - true_crime wrote:
- Mine would have to be the “You’re Jewish?” section. Eric crying on his car would be second.
The you're Jewish comment seems to be something a lot of people want to see. I personally don't find it to be that interesting, but I can see why people would want to see it. | |
|
| |
Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: 30 seconds to see any part of the basement tapes. Fri Mar 15, 2019 9:59 pm | |
| - slippy123 wrote:
- true_crime wrote:
- Mine would have to be the “You’re Jewish?” section. Eric crying on his car would be second.
The you're Jewish comment seems to be something a lot of people want to see. I personally don't find it to be that interesting, but I can see why people would want to see it. I think most people want to see it because they want to know how Eric really reacts. A lot of people think Eric didn't really react the way we've been told and that he likely really didn't care. Just an awkward moment kind of thing. |
|
| |
slippy123
Posts : 879 Contribution Points : 104663 Forum Reputation : 1235 Join date : 2015-08-25
| Subject: Re: 30 seconds to see any part of the basement tapes. Sat Mar 16, 2019 3:55 am | |
| - hvernon wrote:
- slippy123 wrote:
- true_crime wrote:
- Mine would have to be the “You’re Jewish?” section. Eric crying on his car would be second.
The you're Jewish comment seems to be something a lot of people want to see. I personally don't find it to be that interesting, but I can see why people would want to see it. I think most people want to see it because they want to know how Eric really reacts. A lot of people think Eric didn't really react the way we've been told and that he likely really didn't care. Just an awkward moment kind of thing. Yeah I hear you. Seems like some people think there wasn't as big of a reaction as Judy Brown made it out to be. I tend to agree with them, as I don't see Eric really caring about Dylan being a quarter Jewish, but who knows. I just personally find many other things on the tapes more interesting, but to each his own. | |
|
| |
Screamingophelia Other Crimes Moderator & Top 10 Contributor
Posts : 6417 Contribution Points : 192899 Forum Reputation : 1317 Join date : 2017-08-26 Age : 42
| Subject: Re: 30 seconds to see any part of the basement tapes. Sat Mar 16, 2019 4:10 am | |
| - hvernon wrote:
- slippy123 wrote:
- true_crime wrote:
- Mine would have to be the “You’re Jewish?” section. Eric crying on his car would be second.
The you're Jewish comment seems to be something a lot of people want to see. I personally don't find it to be that interesting, but I can see why people would want to see it. I think most people want to see it because they want to know how Eric really reacts. A lot of people think Eric didn't really react the way we've been told and that he likely really didn't care. Just an awkward moment kind of thing. Exactly! I think the only 2 people who mentioned it were very biased against Eric and no one else who saw the tapes mentioned it, hence why I am intrigued. I feel like the bond with the boy was so strong that it was probably very sarcastic like "oh you're Jewish.... huh... sorry you have to do that shit dude." _________________ "And you know, you know, you know, this can be beautiful, you say you're numb inside, but I can't agree. So the world's unfair, keep it locked out there. In here it's beautiful."
| |
|
| |
slippy123
Posts : 879 Contribution Points : 104663 Forum Reputation : 1235 Join date : 2015-08-25
| Subject: Re: 30 seconds to see any part of the basement tapes. Sat Mar 16, 2019 6:23 pm | |
| - Screamingophelia wrote:
- hvernon wrote:
- slippy123 wrote:
- true_crime wrote:
- Mine would have to be the “You’re Jewish?” section. Eric crying on his car would be second.
The you're Jewish comment seems to be something a lot of people want to see. I personally don't find it to be that interesting, but I can see why people would want to see it. I think most people want to see it because they want to know how Eric really reacts. A lot of people think Eric didn't really react the way we've been told and that he likely really didn't care. Just an awkward moment kind of thing. Exactly! I think the only 2 people who mentioned it were very biased against Eric and no one else who saw the tapes mentioned it, hence why I am intrigued.
I feel like the bond with the boy was so strong that it was probably very sarcastic like "oh you're Jewish.... huh... sorry you have to do that shit dude." Exactly what I think! | |
|
| |
jada887
Posts : 210 Contribution Points : 74778 Forum Reputation : 175 Join date : 2016-09-30 Age : 39 Location : Santa Monica, California
| Subject: Re: 30 seconds to see any part of the basement tapes. Wed Mar 20, 2019 4:05 am | |
| - Screamingophelia wrote:
- There are definitely several parts that I would love to see... candy house, Dylan almost shooting Eric in the head...
Dylan almost shot Eric in the head? | |
|
| |
Screamingophelia Other Crimes Moderator & Top 10 Contributor
Posts : 6417 Contribution Points : 192899 Forum Reputation : 1317 Join date : 2017-08-26 Age : 42
| Subject: Re: 30 seconds to see any part of the basement tapes. Wed Mar 20, 2019 4:35 am | |
| - jada887 wrote:
- Screamingophelia wrote:
- There are definitely several parts that I would love to see... candy house, Dylan almost shooting Eric in the head...
Dylan almost shot Eric in the head?
Yes. Let me try to find the article. It’s not in the transcripts but a reporter for one of the Denver newspapers did a write up when he viewed the tapes and talked I’ve been a moment where Eric was playing with his weapons like a “deranged toddler” he says. And there is a brief moment where Dylan waves a loaded gun at Eric’s head and Eric cries out in surprise and the reporter said I wished for a second that he did shoot him _________________ "And you know, you know, you know, this can be beautiful, you say you're numb inside, but I can't agree. So the world's unfair, keep it locked out there. In here it's beautiful."
| |
|
| |
Screamingophelia Other Crimes Moderator & Top 10 Contributor
Posts : 6417 Contribution Points : 192899 Forum Reputation : 1317 Join date : 2017-08-26 Age : 42
| Subject: Re: 30 seconds to see any part of the basement tapes. Wed Mar 20, 2019 4:36 am | |
| So there were two times Dylan’s lack of gun safety could’ve stopped the massacre _________________ "And you know, you know, you know, this can be beautiful, you say you're numb inside, but I can't agree. So the world's unfair, keep it locked out there. In here it's beautiful."
| |
|
| |
jada887
Posts : 210 Contribution Points : 74778 Forum Reputation : 175 Join date : 2016-09-30 Age : 39 Location : Santa Monica, California
| Subject: Re: 30 seconds to see any part of the basement tapes. Wed Mar 20, 2019 6:29 am | |
| - Screamingophelia wrote:
And there is a brief moment where Dylan waves a loaded gun at Eric’s head and Eric cries out in surprise and the reporter said I wished for a second that he did shoot him Dave Cullen: "Another indication that Dylan did not want this to happen." | |
|
| |
true_crime
Posts : 285 Contribution Points : 57799 Forum Reputation : 296 Join date : 2019-01-12 Location : Mountains & Molehills
| Subject: Re: 30 seconds to see any part of the basement tapes. Wed Mar 20, 2019 2:01 pm | |
| [quote="slippy123"][quote="hvernon"][quote="slippy123"] - true_crime wrote:
- Mine would have to be the “You’re Jewish?” section. Eric crying on his car would be second.
The you're Jewish comment seems to be something a lot of people want to see. I personally don't find it to be that interesting, but I can see why people would want to see it.
I think most people want to see it because they want to know how Eric really reacts. A lot of people think Eric didn't really react the way we've been told and that he likely really didn't care. Just an awkward moment kind of thing.
Exactly! I think the only 2 people who mentioned it were very biased against Eric and no one else who saw the tapes mentioned it, hence why I am intrigued.
I feel like the bond with the boy was so strong that it was probably very sarcastic like "oh you're Jewish.... huh... sorry you have to do that shit dude."
Exactly what I think! I guess the reason why I would like to see it would be to see the dynamic between the two boys. Of course, you can see that in all of the tapes, but this part seemed pretty interesting to the people who did get to watch the tapes. | |
|
| |
thelmar
Posts : 760 Contribution Points : 82007 Forum Reputation : 3068 Join date : 2018-07-15
| |
| |
jada887
Posts : 210 Contribution Points : 74778 Forum Reputation : 175 Join date : 2016-09-30 Age : 39 Location : Santa Monica, California
| Subject: Re: 30 seconds to see any part of the basement tapes. Thu Mar 21, 2019 5:39 am | |
| | |
|
| |
Screamingophelia Other Crimes Moderator & Top 10 Contributor
Posts : 6417 Contribution Points : 192899 Forum Reputation : 1317 Join date : 2017-08-26 Age : 42
| Subject: Re: 30 seconds to see any part of the basement tapes. Thu Mar 21, 2019 5:42 am | |
| “Dear journal, I tried everything to stop Eric... I gained his trust and made him think I was all in, I nearly shot him and when that failed I loaded a gun into my stomach in hopes it would go off and make Eric scared of guns... ah well, if you can’t beat them, join them!”
The lost Dylan Klebold writings... _________________ "And you know, you know, you know, this can be beautiful, you say you're numb inside, but I can't agree. So the world's unfair, keep it locked out there. In here it's beautiful."
| |
|
| |
thelmar
Posts : 760 Contribution Points : 82007 Forum Reputation : 3068 Join date : 2018-07-15
| Subject: Re: 30 seconds to see any part of the basement tapes. Fri Mar 22, 2019 4:45 am | |
| - Screamingophelia wrote:
- “Dear journal, I tried everything to stop Eric... I gained his trust and made him think I was all in, I nearly shot him and when that failed I loaded a gun into my stomach in hopes it would go off and make Eric scared of guns... ah well, if you can’t beat them, join them!”
The lost Dylan Klebold writings... From best-selling author, Dave Cullen, " If Only He'd Had More Time- The (Almost) Unlikely Martyrdom of Dylan Klebold" | |
|
| |
jada887
Posts : 210 Contribution Points : 74778 Forum Reputation : 175 Join date : 2016-09-30 Age : 39 Location : Santa Monica, California
| Subject: Re: 30 seconds to see any part of the basement tapes. Sat Mar 23, 2019 5:02 am | |
| - Screamingophelia wrote:
- “Dear journal, I tried everything to stop Eric... I gained his trust and made him think I was all in, I nearly shot him and when that failed I loaded a gun into my stomach in hopes it would go off and make Eric scared of guns... ah well, if you can’t beat them, join them!”
The lost Dylan Klebold writings... Dylan Klebold's journal entry, April 19, 1999: "Today Eric (Is it Reb or REB? My thoughtz is so confused and disturbed) and I went to Dave Cullen's house. I heard he's going to write a book about Columbine, but I don't believe it. It's not because Columbine didn't happen yet, it's just that I'm not sure I was really there. I think I must have slept in again (GAWD). Cullen said, 'Dude, that's ok, I'm goin' to make it so you weren't really there.' So Cullen will write it so that two perpetrators: Reb and REB did the shooting. I think Cullen stated that Reb and REB are twins or something; that's why REB tells Reb to do everything for him. I am watching the basement tapes now: Reb was really down on his mom. I would never have done that. I think REB told Reb to do that, but I am not sure because Cullen told us that they will destroy the tapes 18 years later. The police don't want Reb and REB to come back from the dead to give people flashbacks. Ah, well. Well, gotta go diary. I got to write this diary so that Dave Cullen will write a book about me." | |
|
| |
slippy123
Posts : 879 Contribution Points : 104663 Forum Reputation : 1235 Join date : 2015-08-25
| Subject: Re: 30 seconds to see any part of the basement tapes. Sun Mar 24, 2019 3:22 am | |
| - jada887 wrote:
- Screamingophelia wrote:
- “Dear journal, I tried everything to stop Eric... I gained his trust and made him think I was all in, I nearly shot him and when that failed I loaded a gun into my stomach in hopes it would go off and make Eric scared of guns... ah well, if you can’t beat them, join them!”
The lost Dylan Klebold writings... Dylan Klebold's journal entry, April 19, 1999:
"Today Eric (Is it Reb or REB? My thoughtz is so confused and disturbed) and I went to Dave Cullen's house. I heard he's going to write a book about Columbine, but I don't believe it. It's not because Columbine didn't happen yet, it's just that I'm not sure I was really there. I think I must have slept in again (GAWD). Cullen said, 'Dude, that's ok, I'm goin' to make it so you weren't really there.' So Cullen will write it so that two perpetrators: Reb and REB did the shooting. I think Cullen stated that Reb and REB are twins or something; that's why REB tells Reb to do everything for him. I am watching the basement tapes now: Reb was really down on his mom. I would never have done that. I think REB told Reb to do that, but I am not sure because Cullen told us that they will destroy the tapes 18 years later. The police don't want Reb and REB to come back from the dead to give people flashbacks. Ah, well.
Well, gotta go diary. I got to write this diary so that Dave Cullen will write a book about me." I honestly think Eric would of loved Cullenbine, seeing as it made him out to be this lady's man who was on a higher level than everyone else. It boggles my mind that Cullen is like the "go to guy" for information in many shows and Columbine documentaries. I mean it only takes reading one chapter to realize that book is a crock of shit. | |
|
| |
Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: 30 seconds to see any part of the basement tapes. Sun Mar 24, 2019 8:13 am | |
| - Screamingophelia wrote:
- jada887 wrote:
- Screamingophelia wrote:
- There are definitely several parts that I would love to see... candy house, Dylan almost shooting Eric in the head...
Dylan almost shot Eric in the head?
Yes. Let me try to find the article. It’s not in the transcripts but a reporter for one of the Denver newspapers did a write up when he viewed the tapes and talked I’ve been a moment where Eric was playing with his weapons like a “deranged toddler” he says. And there is a brief moment where Dylan waves a loaded gun at Eric’s head and Eric cries out in surprise and the reporter said I wished for a second that he did shoot him Yes, they both had awful gun safety. Just watch Rampart Range. It's soooooo cringy. I'm really surprised neither of them seriously injured themselves prior to the shooting. |
|
| |
Sponsored content
| Subject: Re: 30 seconds to see any part of the basement tapes. | |
| |
|
| |
| 30 seconds to see any part of the basement tapes. | |
|