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PostSubject: Thought: E and D kill count if..   Fri Apr 07, 2017 2:52 pm

If Dylan and Eric didn't shoot outside and went straight into the cafeteria would the kill count be much larger? I feel like i would. I know this is a would/could situation but to me it is an interesting thought. Any thoughts?

Also, idk if this has already been a topic, if so I apologize and this can be ignored.
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PostSubject: Re: Thought: E and D kill count if..   Fri Apr 07, 2017 4:26 pm

Most likely they would have been immediately seized and beaten. I think they didn't want to repeat the experience of other school shooters. And their ultimate goal was suicide and not an eternity in jail.

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PostSubject: Re: Thought: E and D kill count if..   Fri Apr 07, 2017 7:33 pm

If they went straight for the library or cafeteria and placed themselves in good positions they could have easily doubled their numbers.

They wasted too much time and gave too many chances for people to escape. Obviously when you're in that situation you don't think as clear as when you're planning
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PostSubject: Re: Thought: E and D kill count if..   Sat Apr 08, 2017 1:06 am

They were scared of getting jumped.
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PostSubject: Re: Thought: E and D kill count if..   Sun Apr 09, 2017 12:14 am

i don't think the would've gotten disarmed. mainly because if say Eric would've gotten taken down then Dylan could kill more people then he did. the people in the cafeteria would've fled, i doubt people would try to disarm them but the few who would could've gotten killed easier but i think it would've been a better idea to go to the cafeteria. or they couldve planned to make it during an assembly where the WHOLE school was there and people would clump together forming a bigger target.
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PostSubject: Re: Thought: E and D kill count if..   Sun Apr 09, 2017 12:39 am

They were acting a little odd. Letting people live and wasting a ton of time. They were avid first person shooters. I'm sure if Dylan was looking for the highest kill count possible, he would have moved quickly, and could have killed half the library with head-shots. Those kids under desks were fish in a barrel. Instead, E&D used a lot of pipe bombs and sill CO2 bombs. Dylan did a lot of taunting. They didn't even try and enter a single classroom (kinda easy to blow in a door with two shotguns).

I think Dylan didn't fire when he went into the cafeteria at the start of the massacre because he could have been swarmed. At that moment he was separated from Eric and the cafeteria had a lot of students inside. I'm sure he was aware that's how Kip Kinkel's school shooting ended a year earlier when students swarmed him. Dylan was quick to blast off half of Lance Kirklin's face once he was out again in the open. And, in what seems to be Dylan's style that day, he had some sarcasm to go with the buckshot.

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PostSubject: Re: Thought: E and D kill count if..   Fri Apr 14, 2017 5:18 pm

I agree with runreilly.

Sometimes people can forget that after Columbine, it basically just became a body count contest. Sure, Eric and Dylan wanted to kill hundreds of people if they could manage it, but guns were only meant to be supplementary. This is why I don't think they were intent on making the most of their time as if everyone was a winner in the murder lottery. Eric and Dylan were counting on their bombs to do most of the work for them, while Cho and Lanza strictly used firearms to achieve kills.

I think they were ill prepared for up-close kills and no amount of planning would negate that. While they did manage a few, the psychological intensity of personal killing threw them out of their element for a while, hence the wandering post-library. I mean, these are kids we're talking about. E/D would resent the designation, but they were kissless virgins who still lived with their parents at that point. They talked a lot of game, but Eric still broke his nose and many were merely taunted and not shot. There was too much screaming and crying and alarms blaring to think properly and they're expecting a fiery confrontation with law enforcement any minute in the midst of this. Their actions when all's said and done make sense considering thin, lanky computer nerds with a lot of anger and resentment but little confidence and bravado.
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