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Subject: Eric/Dylan Butt Rape Theory -- IT DID NOT HAPPEN Thu Dec 01, 2016 2:02 pm
There has been speculation that Eric/Dylan were butt raped by Officer Walsh on the night of their arrest.
This whole thing has been taken out of context. Some people believed that this was a possibility.
Eric's drawing of the crime scene and some things Dylan said were cut/pasted into a document and the theory began.
EthanEmerson wrote:
lol wrote:
Regarding the buttrape incident, correct me if I'm wrong but I could've sworn Calence Emerson, or another fellow Columbine researcher reported that the buttrape incident text is a bunch of BS, and it was created by one of their friends, and "Had no idea it was going to blow up that big".
Just want to clarify something here. That txt file was a file I created to take notes on my research into the possibility that any rape incident took place.
Ron Aigner combed my entire server and found every file in every directory, and because this text file was stored in the same directory as the report on Danny R's death, Ron assumed the police created the file.
The reality is that I stored all of my research notes inside the same directories as the reports I was taking notes on. That's how I organized my research. I had text files in every directory. Thousands of them. There is no conspiracy around this. I know people want to believe something else, but that's just not reality. I can't force anyone to believe it, but people like Ron who already have an agenda will take anything they can get their hands on and run with it to prove a point.
If anyone bothered to look at the content of the text file they would see that all it contained were notes about what page to find the sketch Eric drew of the van break in scene and then notes about Ron saying to see it you have to erase this, erase that, turn the page sideways and then you'll see it.
No conspiracy. Just research notes taken out of context to serve Ron's agenda.
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Subject: Re: Eric/Dylan Butt Rape Theory -- IT DID NOT HAPPEN Thu Dec 01, 2016 2:05 pm
Thank you for the clarification.
Now could someone tell Mark Taylor's mom about this as she seemed to have believed this claim?
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Subject: Re: Eric/Dylan Butt Rape Theory -- IT DID NOT HAPPEN Thu Dec 01, 2016 4:27 pm
She is referencing what Dylan wrote in Eric's 1998 Yearbook:
[DOOM] Book 2: Hell on Earth
Ah, my favorite book. We, the Gods, will have so much fun with NBK!! Killing enemies, blowing up stuff, killing cops!! My wrath for January’s incident will be Godlike. Not to mention our revenge in the commons. GAWD SO many people need to die. And now, a fun look at the past: (science-desk style) (You know what I hate??? PEOPLE!! YEAA!!)
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Subject: Re: Eric/Dylan Butt Rape Theory -- IT DID NOT HAPPEN Thu Dec 01, 2016 4:31 pm
Glad it can be put to rest. Eric and Dylan were just angry teenage boys with a lot of emotional problems which they couldn't deal with, so they struck out against the public and killed a bunch of people before finally "fixing" their problem by shooting themselves.
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Subject: Re: Eric/Dylan Butt Rape Theory -- IT DID NOT HAPPEN Thu Dec 01, 2016 5:09 pm
I'm SURE it's not my imagination she was asked about the buttrape thing. I promise you I had watched it if it's not this video.
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Subject: Re: Eric/Dylan Butt Rape Theory -- IT DID NOT HAPPEN Fri Dec 09, 2016 10:40 am
This is probably the most ridiculous of the conspiracy theories, I hope it can now be put to bed, along with the "E/D were gay" BS.
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Subject: Re: Eric/Dylan Butt Rape Theory -- IT DID NOT HAPPEN Fri Dec 09, 2016 10:58 am
Yes, hopefully that can be put to bed once and for all. I take accusations like that very seriously, and think of the officer who was accused of raping Eric. It's not a harmless rumor, it's something that will follow him the rest of life, memorialized for eternity on the internet.
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Subject: Re: Eric/Dylan Butt Rape Theory -- IT DID NOT HAPPEN Fri Dec 09, 2016 1:59 pm
A rape allegation is a really serious one, cause it would be thought of as a reason why Columbine happened where actual people died.
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Subject: Re: Eric/Dylan Butt Rape Theory -- IT DID NOT HAPPEN Fri Jan 20, 2017 4:22 am
I always knew it was BS...but I didn't know that document was fake?! I am reading this thread correctly? That document was fabricated just to push a BS agenda?
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Subject: Re: Eric/Dylan Butt Rape Theory -- IT DID NOT HAPPEN Fri Jan 20, 2017 9:19 am
Columbine_Video_Archives wrote:
I always knew it was BS...but I didn't know that document was fake?! I am reading this thread correctly? That document was fabricated just to push a BS agenda?
The last picture SA posted is "fake" yes. It was edited to make it look like a rape. In reality it was a poor drawing with some limited details that could be manipulated.
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Subject: Re: Eric/Dylan Butt Rape Theory -- IT DID NOT HAPPEN Mon Mar 13, 2017 4:09 am
Here's a bit of missing information that may help fill in the pieces.
Have you ever noticed that people who can't comprehend why kids would kill everyone like this tend to look for answers that will satisfy them? They had to have been abused sexually otherwise it doesn't make sense.
Well the person who started this rumor is named Ron Aigner. He and I connected a long time ago before I realized what I was getting into. I did speak with him on the phone and through email. He is the one who took that image, erased various parts, and then sent it out into the world (altered) as if it was the original drawing.
If you understand his story, it's easy to understand why he was so fixated on sexual abuse being the cause of Columbine. Ron had a nephew (or some kind of relative, young kid) who was raped by cops in Colorado. It may have been a different county. And for some reason the cops had busted down his door at 2am in a raid with the FBI. I couldn't tell you why, now. But he claims cop abuse as well, although I don't know if it was sexual in his case. I just know some kid relative of his was raped by cops in Colorado.
So Ron has a very personal connection with the idea of cops raping kids. So it makes sense that might be the first thing that came to his mind when thinking about why they did it. Of course, given the crime scene sketch Eric drew (which is normal police procedure) and seeing that star probably triggered him and gave him reason to go with it and start manipulating the drawing to fit his agenda.
It's normal human behavior. I can understand it. But sadly this is where the rumor began. And back in the day I never protected my directories, so all of my research files and notes were accessible to anyone. I didn't know any better back then. So he must have combed all of my directories directly, rather than looking at the files I had linked and that's how he found my text file with the notes.
It's just a sad situation, Ron was so obsessed with the idea of cop rape that his wife and kids were being neglected. I received numerous emails from his wife pleading with me for any way I could help him get off his "trip" with this cop rape business. She found my contact info somewhere in his research notes apparently. It was just a really sad situation.
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Subject: Re: Eric/Dylan Butt Rape Theory -- IT DID NOT HAPPEN Sun Apr 16, 2017 1:55 pm
The admin of the Metabunk forum used pictures from Google Earth to prove that the "rape drawing" just matches some bushes that are/were in the area.
You can check the screencaps here: [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]
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Subject: Re: Eric/Dylan Butt Rape Theory -- IT DID NOT HAPPEN Sun Apr 16, 2017 2:07 pm
Gonz wrote:
The admin of the Metabunk forum used pictures from Google Earth to prove that the "rape drawing" just matches some bushes that are/were in the area.
You can check the screencaps here: [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]
This was a great post with solid information that would be hard for anyone with suspicions of conspiracy to deny. Thank you for sharing.
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Subject: Re: Eric/Dylan Butt Rape Theory -- IT DID NOT HAPPEN