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PostSubject: Eric and Dylan's Day Planners   Wed Jun 28, 2017 3:12 pm

I was looking through the evidence in the 11k and never noticed the two entries below in Eric and Dylan's day planners. They both recorded their agreed upon signals depending on how things went that morning. I wonder if they ended up using the "suicide" signal...

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I also noticed in Dylan's planner from the year prior, he crossed out March 25th, 1999 and wrote "Freedom" below with an arrow pointing to the day. I know that's too early for graduation, does anyone have an idea of the significance of that day?

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PostSubject: Re: Eric and Dylan's Day Planners   Wed Jun 28, 2017 3:26 pm

Perhaps the 25 was at one time their chosen day? I am not sure if anyone knows it would prob be [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.].

Other than that I don't know about Dylan but I think the hand signals were all Eric. Witnesses reported seeing Eric running around barking orders at Dylan to cover him or watch his back so I do think he may have used some of the signals. We will never know for sure if they did the hand signal for suicide, but personally I don't think they did

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PostSubject: Re: Eric and Dylan's Day Planners   Wed Jun 28, 2017 3:33 pm

I also noticed when Eric wrote his Shit Left To Do list, he added "get laid" and it looks like a "V" and an "R". I just can't picture them checking in with each other on the status of that item...it's almost funny to me.

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PostSubject: Re: Eric and Dylan's Day Planners   Wed Dec 13, 2017 7:49 pm

Maybe they had planned the attack for March 25th.

I think it is interesting that they planned to get laid on 22nd, and then Dylan had freedom written on 25th and then Erics wants to join the marine corps 2nd of April and on 3rd his journal entry is about "not getting any" and not being invited to stuff.

Tim Krabbe mentions this particular line ("you people had my phone # and I asked and all") and according to him this refers specifically to some event that Robyn Anderson and her friends had, but Eric was not invited.

Maybe Dylan was invited but Eric was not and that was the time they were both supposed to get laid?

If this theory is correct and the attack originally was meant to be on March 25th, that means the tape where they talk about how the cops will portray them differently and also say "we are but we arent psycho" would have been the last tape they left behind.

Does that seem possible?

The only weird thing is that 22nd was a Monday. Who gets laid for the first time on a monday? Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Eric and Dylan's Day Planners   Wed Dec 13, 2017 7:54 pm

Could the "Freedom" have been referring to the end of the diversion program? I didn't think about when I posted this back in June.
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PostSubject: Re: Eric and Dylan's Day Planners   Wed Dec 13, 2017 8:08 pm

Yeah Im looking at the transcript for 18th March Tape and they say there is “only two weeks left & one more weekend” & that “it is coming up fucking quick". That implies that they rather planned on doing it at the beginning of April.

I do believe however that it must have been hard on Eric to have Dylan be invited to a party and not him and then also not get a date for prom. I would looove to know what date Robyn had her party Sad
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PostSubject: Re: Eric and Dylan's Day Planners   Wed Dec 13, 2017 8:24 pm

I never knew that.

Surprised Eric wasn't invited! That was his core group, not a random acquaintance, someone he did a project with.. it was Robyn and Dylan.

I'd be hurt too Sad
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PostSubject: Re: Eric and Dylan's Day Planners   Wed Dec 13, 2017 9:50 pm

A couple from Eric's planner:

I don't know why but this always makes me laugh...get shit...start shit
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Is the "Outback-Katie?" Referring to Katie Thompson?
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PostSubject: Re: Eric and Dylan's Day Planners   Wed Dec 13, 2017 9:52 pm

I was just about to ask about outback-Katie haha scary...
and I was also gonna ask who Marie is but realized it said Movie...
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PostSubject: Re: Eric and Dylan's Day Planners   Wed Dec 13, 2017 9:54 pm

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I was just about to ask about outback-Katie haha scary...
and I was also gonna ask who Marie is but realized it said Movie...

So weird, I thought the same thing. I was like OK Eric you got a backup date idea in case Katie says no? Lol
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PostSubject: Re: Eric and Dylan's Day Planners   Wed Dec 13, 2017 10:01 pm

Isn't that Dylans dayplanner? The handwriting looks like his journal

Are both dayplanners I found Erics?
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PostSubject: Re: Eric and Dylan's Day Planners   Wed Dec 13, 2017 10:20 pm

Both Eric and Dylan's have been released. I think Dylan's 1997-98 school year is available and Eric's 1997-98 and 1998-99 were also released.

I could be wrong, that's just from my memory
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PostSubject: Re: Eric and Dylan's Day Planners   Wed Dec 13, 2017 10:32 pm

I've seen 2 lists in planners for 4/20.

I thought one was from Dylan's and one was from Eric's

One ended with Have Fun! When the bombs go off

The other said Ha Ha Ha
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PostSubject: Re: Eric and Dylan's Day Planners   Wed Dec 13, 2017 10:45 pm

[quote="Littlelo"]A couple from Eric's planner:

I don't know why but this always makes me laugh...get shit...start shit
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That always gets me too. Smile

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PostSubject: Re: Eric and Dylan's Day Planners   Wed Dec 13, 2017 10:52 pm

What song lyric is this?

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From what I can read it says

My head is unraveling...(something)
cant keep track of where it's travelling

my head is no good
& and you are the only one that understand

but you're ripping, dragging, shaking me
(something) the stars from the sky
the more I give to you the more I die

my soul is so afraid to realize
and I want you (x4)
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PostSubject: Re: Eric and Dylan's Day Planners   Wed Dec 13, 2017 10:56 pm

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It was on the Lost Highway soundtrack.



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PostSubject: Re: Eric and Dylan's Day Planners   Wed Dec 13, 2017 10:56 pm

I know Dylan wrote in Eric's day planner for 4/20/99 but I can't say for sure that copies of his planner from 1999 aren't out there. I just need to search the 11k to refresh my memory! Smile

I think that's a NIN song
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PostSubject: Re: Eric and Dylan's Day Planners   Wed Dec 13, 2017 11:08 pm

I believe these are all from Eric's planner. I followed them in order and saw "18" written in the space for Eric's 18th birthday so that kind of reassured me. They may have been writing to each other in the book, you can see it looks like Dylan asked Eric a question (or vice versa?). Maybe they were in class together and couldn't talk?

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PostSubject: Re: Eric and Dylan's Day Planners   Thu Dec 14, 2017 1:30 am

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Maybe they had planned the attack for March 25th.

I think it is interesting that they planned to get laid on 22nd, and then Dylan had freedom written on 25th and then Erics wants to join the marine corps 2nd of April and on 3rd his journal entry is about "not getting any" and not being invited to stuff.

Tim Krabbe mentions this particular line ("you people had my phone # and I asked and all") and according to him this refers specifically to some event that Robyn Anderson and her friends had, but Eric was not invited.

Maybe Dylan was invited but Eric was not and that was the time they were both supposed to get laid?

If this theory is correct and the attack originally was meant to be on March 25th, that means the tape where they talk about how the cops will portray them differently and also say "we are but we arent psycho" would have been the last tape they left behind.

Does that seem possible?

The only weird thing is that 22nd was a Monday. Who gets laid for the first time on a monday? Very Happy


And have a party on a Monday..

Does anyone have a link to Krabbes writing of this? I googled it and found something from Cullen saying Robyn had a party with Eric there and he spilled napalm.

I'm still not totally convinced Robyn and Dylan never at least had an awkward kiss.

I also wonder why Dylan chose the day he did to check in "death, afraid?"

He also adds Zach's bday to the month of May.

Eric crosses off the month of May in his planner. There's the mini calendar with all the months 98/99 and he crosses off May
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PostSubject: Re: Eric and Dylan's Day Planners   Thu Dec 14, 2017 4:48 pm

I dont know where I read Krabbes writing, I just found it in my notes.

I have also read something about Eric attending a party alone and playing videogames. Dont remember the source of that either...

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PostSubject: Re: Eric and Dylan's Day Planners   Thu Dec 14, 2017 5:03 pm

It seems I have a title "Eric at parties" in my notes.

Deborah Conn [6,271] met EH at party at Robyn Anderson’s house
States she thinks Eric went by himself.

James Thornby [10,201] New Year’s Eve party: EH, DK, James Thornby, Chris M., Billy, others
Drank and watched tv.

Monica Malonson [6,844] EH at party at Jeanette’s house


Robyn Anderson [12,273] had party at her house on 3/26/99; EH came; DK was away; 10–15 friends attended



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PostSubject: Re: Eric and Dylan's Day Planners   Thu Dec 14, 2017 5:04 pm

I remember hearing Robyn had a party in early '99. Didn't know it was in march. Was Dylan in Arizona at the time?
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PostSubject: Re: Eric and Dylan's Day Planners   Thu Dec 14, 2017 5:05 pm

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It seems I have a title "Eric at parties" in my notes.

Deborah Conn [6,271] met EH at party at Robyn Anderson’s house
States she thinks Eric went by himself.

James Thornby [10,201] New Year’s Eve party: EH, DK, James Thornby, Chris M., Billy, others
Drank and watched tv.

Monica Malonson [6,844] EH at party at Jeanette’s house


Robyn Anderson [12,273] had party at her house on 3/26/99; EH came; DK was away; 10–15 friends attended






Thanks!! 3/26 was the trip to Arizona I am 99% sure Littlelo
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PostSubject: Re: Eric and Dylan's Day Planners   Thu Dec 14, 2017 5:20 pm

Well then maybe Dylan writing freedom March 25th just meant he thought it was nice to go to Arizona
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PostSubject: Re: Eric and Dylan's Day Planners   Thu Dec 14, 2017 5:21 pm

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Well then maybe Dylan writing freedom March 25th just meant he thought it was nice to go to Arizona

Yes! That makes sense. He really liked Arizona.
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PostSubject: Re: Eric and Dylan's Day Planners   Thu Dec 14, 2017 5:24 pm

Yesss that's probably it. It couldn't have been the end of Diversion as I previously theorized. Diversion ended on 1/20/99.
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PostSubject: Re: Eric and Dylan's Day Planners   Thu Dec 14, 2017 8:54 pm

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Yesss that's probably it. It couldn't have been the end of Diversion as I previously theorized. Diversion ended on 1/20/99.
I think you were correct. Remember, diversion ended early. Eric said he had to be a "literal angel until March of '99" and they were originally accepted into the diversion program on 3/25/98 which was supposed to last for one year.
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PostSubject: Re: Eric and Dylan's Day Planners   Thu Dec 14, 2017 9:20 pm

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Yesss that's probably it. It couldn't have been the end of Diversion as I previously theorized. Diversion ended on 1/20/99.
I think you were correct. Remember, diversion ended early. Eric said he had to be a "literal angel until March of '99" and they were originally accepted into the diversion program on 3/25/98 which was supposed to last for one year.

And he wrote "Freedom" back in 1998 before they knew it would be ending early...
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PostSubject: Re: Eric and Dylan's Day Planners   Sat Dec 16, 2017 1:23 pm

I dont think this was in his day planner, but it was not in his journal either so imma put it here. If anybody knows a better thread for it, please suggest it.

Who was this "nicotine poison" made for? It was on and among pages of instructions about the timebombs. Did they think of poisoning themselves before the shooting?
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And why did I find a page where he writes about wanting to wear black facepaint and have his shoes ducttaped? :S
I feel the ony purpose of that is to not get recognized and not leave footprints.

This suggests that Dylan may have been looking for a way to bomb the school without going NBK.

8th april someone glued shut locks at the school and went up to the roof to spell seniors with ducttape on the skylight.

I'm sorry but the thought of them ducttaping their feet and painting their faces to just go up on the roof to spell seniors made me laugh

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PostSubject: Re: Eric and Dylan's Day Planners   Sat Dec 16, 2017 1:32 pm

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I dont think this was in his day planner, but it was not in his journal either so imma put it here. If anybody knows a better thread for it, please suggest it.

Who was this "nicotine poison" made for? It was on and among pages of instructions about the timebombs. Did they think of poisoning themselves before the shooting?
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And why did I find a page where he writes about wanting to wear black facepaint and have his shoes ducttaped? :S
I feel the ony purpose of that is to not get recognized and not leave footprints.

This suggests that Dylan may have been looking for a way to bomb the school without going NBK.

8th april someone glued shut locks at the school and went up to the roof to spell seniors with ducttape on the skylight.

I'm sorry but the thought of them ducttaping their feet and painting their faces to just go up on the roof to spell seniors made me laugh

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I might put stuff like that in the interesting 11k findings thread but honestly I don't think it really matters Smile

I saw that nicotine poisoning thing before but I can't even imagine who it would be for. I honestly don't think it was for themselves though.

There is a bunch of random stuff in the 11k that shows other illegal things they did or wanted to do. Wasn't there instructions on how to commit credit card fraud? And didn't Eric hint in TBT that he did it?
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