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PostSubject: Re: The small questions thread   Fri Dec 20, 2013 9:19 pm

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I don't know why they had purchased cut down weapons, they had no intention of needing to conceal them.  

They sawed off the shotguns themselves. They carried them around at other times than NBK.
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PostSubject: Re: The small questions thread   Sat Dec 21, 2013 10:23 pm

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I enjoy shooting handguns and shotguns. The thing to understand is most gun owners shutter when they see the videos of E & D shooting. The shotguns would have been extremely hard to shoot accurately but lucky for E & D you don't have to be very accurate with the way the cut off the barrel. And really I don't think that this was a big concern of theirs. The bombs were supposed to be the bigger weapons.

The shot of dylan shooting his tec 9 one handed makes me roll my eyes. Its the 'gangsta' and its not very effective.

I will say that they look to be using much better form in the cafeteria footage so maybe they got it out of their system before NBK.

Mmm, I suppose you don't have to be accurate when you're just shooting randomly at people. And the bombs was the primary plan, yes.

I wonder if they had much practice outside Rampage Range. They seem to have had that, if you say they hold their guns better in the cafeteria.

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PostSubject: Re: The small questions thread   Fri Jan 10, 2014 6:34 pm

Does anyone know if it is documented anywhere as to what happened with the library books? Were they just moved to the new library? Specifically, there were quite a number of books that were splattered with blood, particularly by Eric's suicide. Is there any written as to what was done with them, etc? Just a small question that crossed my mind today...
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PostSubject: Re: The small questions thread   Fri Jan 10, 2014 6:51 pm

Good question! I never thought about that. I don't know the answer but would love to hear if anyone has found anything.
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PostSubject: Re: The small questions thread   Fri Jan 10, 2014 6:55 pm

I would guess that the books that weren't damaged by blood would have been recycled into another library or the new Columbine library.
The books that were splattered with blood would maybe have been in evidence vaults, but I don't know if I recall seeing any of that in the official reports. I can only imagine what some obsessed collector would pay for one of the books behind Eric's head that got covered in blood!
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PostSubject: Re: The small questions thread   Fri Jan 10, 2014 7:13 pm

I was actually asked this some months ago through anonymous message elsewhere: "Okay, obviously some of Eric's blood HAD to have splattered on the books. And obviously thats all gone now. But do you ever wonder- what if some of the books that were further away had microscopic shit on them & didn't get thrown away and theres fucking books in the world with Eric's blood on it?!"


And this was my reply back then, using little more than common sense because I don't think it was ever said what happened to the books:

Yeah, I agree that there is no scenario possible in which his blood/brains didn’t make it onto the books somehow. It’s obvious that they threw away all of those books visibly affected by this. The boys killed themselves in what seems to be a corner of the library, as far as I can see on the diagram, where there were fewer bookcases and more tables/chairs. That makes the chance of books with Eric’s blood on them ‘surviving’ the purge a lot slimmer. JeffCo’s timeline also suggests that Eric did something with the bookshelves, possibly even going as far as to shoot at them, so there was probably a lot of damage done to the books outside of the obvious. The clean-up would’ve had to be very meticulous. I don’t think they would’ve wanted to take any chances — it is likelier that they threw more than half of the library into the trash, even if the risk of an object being contaminated by human matter was very small.

If any of the books from that day somehow made it through the clean-up, I think it’d be most likely that they were put in the new library at Columbine again. However, I suspect that many of them would’ve been removed since due to ordinary things like outdated information or outdated publication etc. The chances of there still being books in the world with Eric’s blood on them are very, very small. (Unless you get excited about the possibility of recycling, Anon.. I’m sorry to burst your bubble.)

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PostSubject: Re: The small questions thread   Fri Jan 10, 2014 10:44 pm

Imagine the look on someones face if they opened a book and a little piece of Eric's brain happened to be overlooked in the big clean-up... Shocked 

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PostSubject: Re: The small questions thread   Tue Jan 21, 2014 11:18 am

We have Eric's day planner from 98-99 and Dylan's day planner from 97-98. Do we have Dylan's day planner from 98-99? I was looking through the 936-pages of Writings from the 11k and cannot find it.

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PostSubject: Re: The small questions thread   Tue Jan 21, 2014 1:28 pm

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We have Eric's day planner from 98-99 and Dylan's day planner from 97-98. Do we have Dylan's day planner from 98-99? I was looking through the 936-pages of Writings from the 11k and cannot find it.

I don't think so. too bad, right?

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PostSubject: Re: The small questions thread   Tue Jan 21, 2014 2:39 pm

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We have Eric's day planner from 98-99 and Dylan's day planner from 97-98. Do we have Dylan's day planner from 98-99? I was looking through the 936-pages of Writings from the 11k and cannot find it.

I don't think so. too bad, right?

Yes, that's too bad. Maybe there was nothing relating to the planning in it? Only lyrics to songs? Longings for True love? But that seems surprising to me. And even more surprising they would not include Eric's day planner for 97-98.

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PostSubject: Re: The small questions thread   Tue Jan 21, 2014 7:34 pm

Didn't Dylan use Eric's planner to write down NBK-related things in 98-99? Might just be he didn't really use the planner much outside of what it was meant for in the first place or something, although it is a little peculiar they'd include the one from a previous year..  Rolling Eyes Is this one of those things where JeffCo suffered from selective 'hearing' again? Wouldn't put it past them to have missed a few scraps of seemingly unimportant things that might speak volumes about something important..
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PostSubject: Re: The small questions thread   Wed Jan 22, 2014 12:36 am

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Didn't Dylan use Eric's planner to write down NBK-related things in 98-99? Might just be he didn't really use the planner much outside of what it was meant for in the first place or something, although it is a little peculiar they'd include the one from a previous year..  Rolling Eyes Is this one of those things where JeffCo suffered from selective 'hearing' again? Wouldn't put it past them to have missed a few scraps of seemingly unimportant things that might speak volumes about something important..

Dylan did use Eric's planner to jot down NBK notes. He made one of his most interesting notes, imo, in Eric's planner, when he wrote a list of things to get/do for NBK and then wrote: "Death (Afraid?)" right next to the list.

I think this offers good insight into Dylan's personality. He's compartmentalizing tasks, including the most onerous and urgent task of all: facing personal mortality, as though he's just jotting down the usual casual notes someone would normally write in their day-planner. Also that he's using Eric's day-planner reinforces the idea that the two boys were as committed to erasing (losing) their individual personalities through one another as they were in following through with NBK.
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PostSubject: Re: The small questions thread   Wed Jan 29, 2014 9:58 am

Does anyone know how much Dylan grew between 8th grade and senior year? His height has always fascinated me as I've met very few people taller than 6 feet. Maybe it's more common among Americans, but where I'm from, it's really rare.
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PostSubject: Re: The small questions thread   Sun Feb 02, 2014 6:25 pm

I can't remember, are there videos/stills of them on the 20/4 in their trenchcoats?
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PostSubject: Re: The small questions thread   Sun Feb 02, 2014 6:45 pm

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I can't remember, are there videos/stills of them on the 20/4 in their trenchcoats?

I honestly don't think so. If there are, they haven't been released to the public, to my knowledge.
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PostSubject: Re: The small questions thread   Mon Feb 03, 2014 4:09 am

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I can't remember, are there videos/stills of them on the 20/4 in their trenchcoats?

I honestly don't think so. If there are, they haven't been released to the public, to my knowledge.
Thanks. I wonder if Dylan held his arms like this too lol
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PostSubject: Re: The small questions thread   Wed Feb 19, 2014 4:35 pm

What is the post mortem drying artifact found on the balls of Dylan?
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PostSubject: Re: The small questions thread   Wed Feb 19, 2014 5:49 pm

Is there any discernable reason to believe Jeffco is hiding entries in their journals? It just seems odd, the amount of time between entries and the one-track mindset it all seemed to have.

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PostSubject: Re: The small questions thread   Thu Feb 20, 2014 10:57 pm

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I've tried finding his/her name but couldn't
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PostSubject: Re: The small questions thread   Thu Feb 20, 2014 11:27 pm

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I've tried finding his/her name but couldn't

Difficult to find out who it is because the original poster deleted all his or her comments in the thread.

Also, comment on top by another poster is about a girl who was reportedly spared by Eric and Dylan because ''her twin sister was always nice to the shooters''. Apparently both guys came up to her and one said ''she's cool'' (the way Dylan did with John Savage). Can't think of who it might be right now. It's a second-hand story told on an anonymous website so, who knows if it's true.

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PostSubject: Re: The small questions thread   Thu Feb 20, 2014 11:38 pm

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I've tried finding his/her name but couldn't

Difficult to find out who it is because the original poster deleted all his or her comments in the thread.

I was hoping someone might remember who it was and that it was someone quite close to E&D  Sad 
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Also, comment on top by another poster is about a girl who was reportedly spared by Eric and Dylan because ''her twin sister was always nice to the shooters''. Apparently both guys came up to her and one said ''she's cool'' (the way Dylan did with John Savage). Can't think of who it might be right now. It's a second-hand story told on an anonymous website so, who knows if it's true.
Seems like it's the kind of story that would have been well-known, I don't remember reading about it in other places either
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PostSubject: Re: The small questions thread   Fri Feb 21, 2014 11:41 pm

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What is the post mortem drying artifact found on the balls of Dylan?

Are you referring to Dylan's autopsy report?
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PostSubject: Re: The small questions thread   Sat Feb 22, 2014 12:54 am

ThoughtBox wrote:
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What is the post mortem drying artifact found on the balls of Dylan?

Are you referring to Dylan's autopsy report?

I assumed the question was referring to Dylan's autopsy also.
As a body becomes dehydrated after death you can end up with discolored areas on the body (kind of like a bruise) which is due to this drying out process. Usually artifact could refer to something man made or maybe even blood etc, but i think in the case of Dylan this was perhaps not the case. I think 'artifact' in this instance refers to a natural postmortem occurrence or drying of the tissue rather than any other kind of substance been found in that area of his body.

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It is not uncommon to see a dark red to black appearance to the lips and the tip of the tongue protruding through the clinched incisors. This discoloration is due to a drying of these structures. In males you often see the skin of the scrotum taking on a dark red color, which is also due to drying artifact.
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Postmortem drying artifact was also found on Eric's right upper back and on Danny R's body.
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PostSubject: Re: The small questions thread   Sat Feb 22, 2014 1:13 am

Thanks queenfarooq you are, as always, a fount of knowledge. I had always wondered about this question but never wanted to ask. Lol. At least radioactive_clothing had the balls to ask. (Very bad pun intended).
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PostSubject: Re: The small questions thread   Sat Feb 22, 2014 1:14 am

Thanks queenfarooq you are, as always, a fount of knowledge. I had always wondered about this question but never wanted to ask. Lol. At least radioactive_clothing had the balls to ask. (Very bad pun intended).
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PostSubject: Re: The small questions thread   Sat Feb 22, 2014 1:21 am

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Thanks queenfarooq you are, as always, a fount of knowledge. I had always wondered about this question but never wanted to ask. Lol.  At least radioactive_clothing had the balls to ask. (Very bad pun intended).

Haha, that's OK and thank you. Usually if one person is wondering about something there'll be other people also wondering the same thing, so someone may as well ask.
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PostSubject: Re: The small questions thread   Sat Feb 22, 2014 2:55 pm

Yes, that's what I was referring to. Thank you.
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PostSubject: Re: The small questions thread   Sun Feb 23, 2014 7:03 am

Does anyone know where I could find the so called 'autopsy diagrams' that Randy Brown supposedly gave Calence (the guy who runs dylanklebold.com)?

Calence had them on his website at some point but I cant find them there anymore.
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PostSubject: Re: The small questions thread   Sun Feb 23, 2014 7:57 am

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Does anyone know where I could find the so called 'autopsy diagrams' that Randy Brown supposedly gave Calence (the guy who runs dylanklebold.com)?

Calence had them on his website at some point but I cant find them there anymore.

Hm. I vaguely recall seeing those. Calence sold dylanklebold.com a couple of months ago and he hadn't update anything on his site in quite a while.
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PostSubject: Re: The small questions thread   Sun Feb 23, 2014 3:38 pm

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Hm. I vaguely recall seeing those.   Calence sold dylanklebold.com a couple of months ago and he hadn't update anything on his site in quite a while.

Do you have a way I can contact him? He may be able to provide me with said documents.
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