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PostSubject: Re: The small questions thread   Fri May 20, 2016 7:08 am

@bubs oh okay. matt was the one who played football for a bit too and was friends with Isaiah no?

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PostSubject: Re: The small questions thread   Fri May 20, 2016 7:25 am

That's correct.
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PostSubject: Re: The small questions thread   Fri May 20, 2016 3:22 pm

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Does anyone have the names of the students who were in the cafeteria when Eric and Dylan were trying to set off the bombs?

Or the kid who took a nasty dive over the CCTV when one of the crickets exploded near him?

If you are talking about the guy that did a barrel roll after leaping to the side. Thats Mr Frieson a teacher and he was hit by shrapnel in his leg. Im on my phone now or I would post a link.

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PostSubject: Re: The small questions thread   Fri May 20, 2016 3:42 pm

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Does anyone have the names of the students who were in the cafeteria when Eric and Dylan were trying to set off the bombs?

Or the kid who took a nasty dive over the CCTV when one of the crickets exploded near him?

If you are talking about the guy that did a barrel roll after leaping to the side. Thats Mr Frieson a teacher and he was hit by shrapnel in his leg.  Im on my phone now or I would post a link.


Could of been a teacher, I only saw the footage once or twice. I know he was Cory Friesons dad, who was close friends with Chris Morris, and hung out with Eric and Dylan here and there.
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PostSubject: Re: The small questions thread   Fri May 20, 2016 3:43 pm

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[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]. Yes, however, that photo alongside the proper-pose photo of the class photo we've seen floating around isn't the full complete picture. if you look properly it's been cropped at the side. IDK why it's been cropped, where the full one is and who provided the picture we've seen all the years in the first place.

Good point. Was it perhaps cropped because Eric and Dylan's murdered and injured senior victims coincidentally all happened to be situated on the other side of the photo?

That is odd that the two seniors killed are somehow not in the senior photo...
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PostSubject: Re: The small questions thread   Fri May 20, 2016 5:45 pm

[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] that's because they may have been on the cropped out portion of the class photo that we have seen for years as [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] and I have discussed. that's not the full photo we're looking at

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PostSubject: Re: The small questions thread   Fri May 20, 2016 5:47 pm

I get that, it's just an odd occurrence.
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PostSubject: Re: The small questions thread   Fri May 20, 2016 6:23 pm

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Does anyone have the names of the students who were in the cafeteria when Eric and Dylan were trying to set off the bombs?

Or the kid who took a nasty dive over the CCTV when one of the crickets exploded near him?

If you are talking about the guy that did a barrel roll after leaping to the side. Thats Mr Frieson a teacher and he was hit by shrapnel in his leg.  Im on my phone now or I would post a link.



It was Mr. Eric Kritzer (pages 003481-003486) who jumped/dove out of the way of the exploding pipe bomb - He was Eric's Philosophy Teacher.
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PostSubject: Re: The small questions thread   Fri May 20, 2016 9:13 pm

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Does anyone have the names of the students who were in the cafeteria when Eric and Dylan were trying to set off the bombs?

Or the kid who took a nasty dive over the CCTV when one of the crickets exploded near him?

If you are talking about the guy that did a barrel roll after leaping to the side. Thats Mr Frieson a teacher and he was hit by shrapnel in his leg.  Im on my phone now or I would post a link.



It was Mr. Eric Kritzer (pages 003481-003486) who jumped/dove out of the way of the exploding pipe bomb - He was Eric's Philosophy Teacher.

Ah thats right i was mistaken. Lo siento
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PostSubject: Re: The small questions thread   Mon May 23, 2016 11:36 am

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Does anyone have the names of the students who were in the cafeteria when Eric and Dylan were trying to set off the bombs?

One of them is Mary Campbell. She felt the fire bomb and claimed to be less than 5ft away from them at points

You can find her in the 11k on pg 2626
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PostSubject: Re: The small questions thread   Mon May 23, 2016 3:52 pm

Dylan's trousers (pants) were black during the day, but for some reason many art and re-enactments seem to usually give him olive colored trousers (Columbinius, I'm Not Ashamed etc) I wonder why that is, probably because the CCTV footage shows his trousers being much lighter to his shirt, despite them being the same color.
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PostSubject: Re: The small questions thread   Mon May 23, 2016 4:52 pm

[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] - is there a great deal to see in Hungerford after Ryan's spree? I know there was some sort of plaque near the football ground. I've been meaning to get down again.
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PostSubject: Re: The small questions thread   Thu May 26, 2016 12:11 pm

Now for a really small question: Has anyone ever actually had Blackjack Pizza? I bet it's probably shitty but hey, ya never know. jocolor

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PostSubject: Re: The small questions thread   Thu May 26, 2016 12:15 pm

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Now for a really small question: Has anyone ever actually had Blackjack Pizza? I bet it's probably shitty but hey, ya never know. jocolor

I have not.  But I think I would have been afraid to go there when Chris, Eric and Dylan worked there!  With Bob the owner being an alcoholic and "suspected" drug user, and a bunch of seemingly out of control teens involved you never know what you are going to get!

*Edit to say...we do order pizza from time to time and I guess I don't really know who makes it so...maybe we do order from those kinds of places. I was mostly meaning a walk in order I suppose
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PostSubject: Re: The small questions thread   Thu May 26, 2016 12:40 pm

I deffy don't where I live. To me it doesn't sound like one of the most outstanding italian/pizza franchises around though.

[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] "I have not. But I think I would have been afraid to go there when Chris, Eric and Dylan worked there! With Bob the owner being an alcoholic and "suspected" drug user, and a bunch of seemingly out of control teens involved you never know what you are going to get!" With all that you've described, I think I would WANT to be around a shady atmosphere such as that hahah. I would love to watch the way Eric flirts and waits on girls who come by the place.

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PostSubject: Re: The small questions thread   Thu May 26, 2016 2:24 pm

Approximately when did Eric and Dylan start planning the attack? I've heard it was eight months ahead but I've also heard it was right after they got arrested so January 98.

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PostSubject: Re: The small questions thread   Thu May 26, 2016 2:47 pm

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Approximately when did Eric and Dylan start planning the attack? I've heard it was eight months ahead but I've also heard it was right after they got arrested so January 98.

Hard to say for sure.

They stated they planned it for "over a year" on the 20 so that means prior to April 1998, they got the guns in Nov 1998, Eric and even moreso Dylan were writing about it over a year before...Dylan I think started in what ? 1997?
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PostSubject: Re: The small questions thread   Fri May 27, 2016 5:10 pm

Does anybody know if Sue remained in contact with Eric's parents?
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PostSubject: Re: The small questions thread   Fri May 27, 2016 5:13 pm

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Does anybody know if Sue remained in contact with Eric's parents?

yes, occasionally.
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PostSubject: Re: The small questions thread   Fri May 27, 2016 6:13 pm

I wonder if their brothers Byron and Kevin keep in touch or have spoken to one another at all. Found out they're the exact same age so that was quite a coincidence between the two

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PostSubject: Re: The small questions thread   Fri May 27, 2016 6:46 pm

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I wonder if their brothers Byron and Kevin keep in touch or have spoken to one another at all. Found out they're the exact same age so that was quite a coincidence between the two

Yeah, I've always wondered about their brothers. They've managed to maintain a very low profile (which they have every right to), but I've always been curious as to what insight they had growing up with their brothers and what their feelings, thoughts and experiences were in the aftermath of what happened at Columbine.
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PostSubject: Re: The small questions thread   Fri May 27, 2016 7:10 pm

Maybe Kevin's and Byron's kids have playdates together and they become best friends that actually last for life.

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PostSubject: Re: The small questions thread   Fri May 27, 2016 7:46 pm

no i don´t think byron and kevin are friends. it is only a feeling. but like tom, byron doesn´t want to do anything with columbine.
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PostSubject: Re: The small questions thread   Fri May 27, 2016 8:17 pm

"Dylan and Eric had also met in junior high school."
True or False?
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PostSubject: Re: The small questions thread   Fri May 27, 2016 8:53 pm

Yes, they met at Ken Caryl Middle School


1993 August to ~December

Kevin in Grade 10 at Columbine High School

Eric/Dylan both in Grade 7 at Ken Caryl Middle School – Littleton, Colorado

*12-16-93 – At 12, Eric has Surgical Correction of Pectus Excavatum


1994 January to June

Kevin in Grade 10 at Columbine High School

Eric/Dylan both in Grade 7 at Ken Caryl Middle School – Littleton, Colorado

~April/May ’94 – Eric and Dylan become friends

*06-09-94 – At 13, Eric has a steel strut removed from the previous surgery
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PostSubject: Re: The small questions thread   Fri May 27, 2016 9:21 pm

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Does anybody know if Sue remained in contact with Eric's parents?

yes, occasionally.


Wonder how they feel about her putting most of the blame on him in her book?

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PostSubject: Re: The small questions thread   Fri May 27, 2016 10:36 pm

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Does anybody know if Sue remained in contact with Eric's parents?

yes, occasionally.


Wonder how they feel about her putting most of the blame on him in her book?
Im reading her book right now. Im disappointed. I read only half of it but I got a feeling that shes fooling herself or denies who the real Dylan was. She clearly believes that Eric was an undiagnosed psychopath. Her son was the one fooling everybody, Eric thoughts and plans were all over the place. Mad She rearly mentions a "good side" of Eric. On the other hand for Dylan... Rolling Eyes


"Dylan’s depressiveness would not have turned into murderousness without Harris’s leadership, but
something in Eric might have lost motivation without the thrill of dragging Dylan down with
him."

"(In any case, because the adolescent brain is still
developing, a formal diagnosis of psychopathy is only possible after the subject turns
eighteen.) Even so, Eric certainly satisfies a great number of the diagnostic markers
associated with this personality disorder."

"Not every psychopath is a criminal or a sadist, but if they
do move in that direction, as Eric did, they can become highly dangerous."

"We know Eric was overwhelmingly persuasive. His Diversion counselor, dismissing him
early from the program, said at the end of her final report, “muy facile [sic] hombre,” which
my Spanish-speaking friends translate as an affectionate characterization along the lines of
“super-easy guy.” Eric’s perceived halo may have extended to Dylan, whose own grades
weren’t good enough to justify his early dismissal from Diversion. A number of the
psychologists I have spoken to have told me how scarily charismatic and charming
psychopaths can be—how quick they are to find the wedge, and how masterfully they work
the lever. I am not sure that Dylan, especially in an impaired state, was in a position to
extricate himself from that relationship."

He was so persuasive and charming every girl fell for him.


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PostSubject: Re: The small questions thread   Fri May 27, 2016 10:58 pm

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Does anybody know if Sue remained in contact with Eric's parents?

yes, occasionally.


Wonder how they feel about her putting most of the blame on him in her book?
Im reading her book right now. Im disappointed. I read only half of it but I got a feeling that shes fooling herself or denies who the real Dylan was. She clearly believes that Eric was an undiagnosed psychopath. Her son was the one fooling everybody, Eric thoughts and plans were all over the place. Mad He rearly mentions a "good side" of Eric. On the other hand for Dylan... Rolling Eyes


"Dylan’s depressiveness would not have turned into murderousness without Harris’s leadership, but
something in Eric might have lost motivation without the thrill of dragging Dylan down with
him."

"(In any case, because the adolescent brain is still
developing, a formal diagnosis of psychopathy is only possible after the subject turns
eighteen.) Even so, Eric certainly satisfies a great number of the diagnostic markers
associated with this personality disorder."

"Not every psychopath is a criminal or a sadist, but if they
do move in that direction, as Eric did, they can become highly dangerous."

"We know Eric was overwhelmingly persuasive. His Diversion counselor, dismissing him
early from the program, said at the end of her final report, “muy facile [sic] hombre,” which
my Spanish-speaking friends translate as an affectionate characterization along the lines of
“super-easy guy.” Eric’s perceived halo may have extended to Dylan, whose own grades
weren’t good enough to justify his early dismissal from Diversion. A number of the
psychologists I have spoken to have told me how scarily charismatic and charming
psychopaths can be—how quick they are to find the wedge, and how masterfully they work
the lever. I am not sure that Dylan, especially in an impaired state, was in a position to
extricate himself from that relationship."

He was so persuasive and charming every girl fell for him.

Totally agreed.If you'd like to go back and read the threads for the first month after the book and the interview you will see that many of us came to the same conclusion and some had waited for the book for years who were disappointed to the extreme.
If I were Eric's parents I would feel highly angry and offended that the parent of the other boy who was in on this with my son had scapegoated my kid and basically put the majority of the blame for the entire thing on him, but of course I don't know how his parents feel.

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PostSubject: Re: The small questions thread   Sat May 28, 2016 8:15 am

[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] they can't put it past her. She's his mother. Dylan was her baby.
And i'm just assuming but I hate to say that the Harrises probably wiped their hands clean off of this case...I think they're probably at that route of pretending it never happened.

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PostSubject: Re: The small questions thread   Sat May 28, 2016 8:34 am

I think that the Herrises are in denial. More than the Klebolds. Everytime Eric did something bad his parents got his back. They just "accepted" the evil portray of Eric in order not to be sued or acused again.  (my opinion)
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