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PostSubject: The full 911 Call   Thu Sep 14, 2017 7:54 am

We all know that only a portion of the full 911 call has ever been released, plus the small snippet that was leaked. Why do you think the entire call has not been released to the public? What could possibly be on the remaining minutes of the call that JeffCo wouldn't want heard?

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PostSubject: Re: The full 911 Call   Thu Sep 14, 2017 8:37 am

The sky is the limit with Jeffco. I have no idea what may be on there that they don't want us to hear other than children dying. From the 11k we know several children yelled out, screamed for help, cried etc. Perhaps they don't want to expose the general public to that and have the parents hear their own children die.

But as with everything related to this case, evidence has been tainted by shoddy work so...could be anythign

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PostSubject: Re: The full 911 Call   Thu Sep 14, 2017 8:38 am

The Grizzly bear man who was eaten by a bear along with his girlfriend had a recording of them being eaten and that has never been released either due to what they say is just the mental gore of hearing it...could be similar.

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PostSubject: Re: The full 911 Call   Thu Sep 14, 2017 8:44 am

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The sky is the limit with Jeffco.  I have no idea what may be on there that they don't want us to hear other than children dying.  From the 11k we know several children yelled out, screamed for help, cried etc.  Perhaps they don't want to expose the general public to that and have the parents hear their own children die.

But as with everything related to this case, evidence has been tainted by shoddy work so...could be anythign


I agree. I will forever question anything involving Columbine because of the way JeffCo handled the case.

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PostSubject: Re: The full 911 Call   Thu Sep 14, 2017 8:55 am

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The Grizzly bear man who was eaten by a bear along with his girlfriend had a recording of them being eaten and that has never been released either due to what they say is just the mental gore of hearing it...could be similar.

Sorry for double post


While I am not a fan of gore, the possibility of JeffCo lying about or just missing something on the 911 call is too real. They proved countless times that the detective work concerning Columbine wasn't very good.

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PostSubject: Re: The full 911 Call   Thu Sep 14, 2017 9:47 am

They didn't released the audio of it probably because you can hear children screaming while they are being shot. However there is transcript availabe

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PostSubject: Re: The full 911 Call   Thu Sep 14, 2017 9:55 am

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They didn't released the audio of it probably because you can hear children screaming while they are being shot. However there is transcript availabe

Does it make me sound like a overly skeptical, non government trusting, individual to say that I do not put much stock in the transcripts? scratch  After all this is JeffCo we are talking about. Very Happy

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PostSubject: Re: The full 911 Call   Thu Sep 14, 2017 9:57 am

Yea JeffCo is fucked up really hard but there is an FBI transcript and you can find all words exchanged between Eric, Dylan and students and time stamps for each shot being fired

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PostSubject: Re: The full 911 Call   Thu Sep 14, 2017 10:00 am

[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] Doesn't make you sound skeptical at all. I'm sure releasing the call would change timelines that were released and who knows what else. Exposing the deceptive narrative they wove together.

If I was in Jeffco and got pulled over for not wearing a seatbelt they would shoot me and cover it up. That's how much I trust police departments/government in general.

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PostSubject: Re: The full 911 Call   Thu Sep 14, 2017 10:03 am

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If I was in Jeffco and got pulled over for not wearing a seatbelt they would shoot me and cover it up.  That's how much I trust police departments/government in general.

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PostSubject: Re: The full 911 Call   Thu Sep 14, 2017 11:16 am

The Browns have listened to the full 911 call, haven't they? I vaguely remember either Brooks or his father saying how disturbing it was to listen to. If anything fishy was going on with this call, especially something which made JeffCo look bad, I think that they would be the first ones to expose it publicly!
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PostSubject: Re: The full 911 Call   Thu Sep 14, 2017 11:22 am

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The Browns have listened to the full 911 call, haven't they? I vaguely remember either Brooks or his father saying how disturbing it was to listen to. If anything fishy was going on with this call, especially something which made JeffCo look bad, I think that they would be the first ones to expose it publicly!

Randy stated he has. He also has stated that he has documents that no one has ever seen before. But he refuses to show them to anyone or talk about what is in them

I know that he had turned Brooks' old bedroom into an evidence room (this can be seen in the movie 13 families) so I know he has a crapton of stuff but IDK what he has.

Brooks is such a liar and they say the apple does not fall far from the tree so it may be that Randy has lied about what he has.

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PostSubject: Re: The full 911 Call   Thu Sep 14, 2017 11:31 am

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The Browns have listened to the full 911 call, haven't they? I vaguely remember either Brooks or his father saying how disturbing it was to listen to. If anything fishy was going on with this call, especially something which made JeffCo look bad, I think that they would be the first ones to expose it publicly!

Probably so. Randy Brown's pure hatred for JeffCo is well known. Which is why I eagerly await the book he is supposedly writing.

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PostSubject: Re: The full 911 Call   Thu Sep 14, 2017 11:34 am

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The Browns have listened to the full 911 call, haven't they? I vaguely remember either Brooks or his father saying how disturbing it was to listen to. If anything fishy was going on with this call, especially something which made JeffCo look bad, I think that they would be the first ones to expose it publicly!

Randy stated he has.  He also has stated that he has documents that no one has ever seen before.  But he refuses to show them to anyone or talk about what is in them

I know that he had turned Brooks' old bedroom into an evidence room (this can be seen in the  movie 13 families) so I know he has a crapton of stuff but IDK what he has.

Brooks is such a liar and they say the apple does not fall far from the tree so it may be that Randy has lied about what he has.  


Another reason why I want Randy to write a book. Maybe he will finally show or share all the info he says he has. Very Happy

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PostSubject: Re: The full 911 Call   Thu Sep 14, 2017 11:39 am

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The Browns have listened to the full 911 call, haven't they? I vaguely remember either Brooks or his father saying how disturbing it was to listen to. If anything fishy was going on with this call, especially something which made JeffCo look bad, I think that they would be the first ones to expose it publicly!

Randy stated he has.  He also has stated that he has documents that no one has ever seen before.  But he refuses to show them to anyone or talk about what is in them

I know that he had turned Brooks' old bedroom into an evidence room (this can be seen in the  movie 13 families) so I know he has a crapton of stuff but IDK what he has.

Brooks is such a liar and they say the apple does not fall far from the tree so it may be that Randy has lied about what he has.  


Another reason why I want Randy to write a book. Maybe he will finally show or share all the info he says he has. Very Happy

Another member on here asloversgo I think is the name says he/she was working with Randy at one point. Not sure if it is true but he claimed Randy was working on it.

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PostSubject: Re: The full 911 Call   Thu Sep 14, 2017 11:45 am

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Another member on here asloversgo I think is the name says he/she was working with Randy at one point.  Not sure if it is true but he claimed Randy was working on it.

Yes, I remember they were asking for questions that we wanted to ask Randy in hopes he would include them or answer them in the book. Would still love Randy's take on it.

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PostSubject: Re: The full 911 Call   Thu Sep 14, 2017 11:49 am

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Another member on here asloversgo I think is the name says he/she was working with Randy at one point.  Not sure if it is true but he claimed Randy was working on it.

Yes, I remember they were asking for questions that we wanted to ask Randy in hopes he would include them or answer them in the book. Would still love Randy's take on it.

I guess I am of the opinion that I will believe it when I see it. As long as he doesn't show anything or give anything away no one will know whether or not he truly has something.

Given how Brooks lied about so much in his book I am not quite sure I would believe what Randy would put in his without direct documents. Then again after reading Sue's book I am really wanting another book from an "insider" so to speak.

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PostSubject: Re: The full 911 Call   Thu Sep 14, 2017 11:54 am

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I am really wanting another book from an "insider" so to speak.

EXACTLY! After all Randy was there before, during, and after Columbine.

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PostSubject: Re: The full 911 Call   Tue Sep 26, 2017 11:35 am

Where can you find the FBI transcript of the full 911 call?
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PostSubject: Re: The full 911 Call   Tue Sep 26, 2017 11:46 am

What bothers me is the fact that they released the full transcripts of the 911 call and the basement tapes, yet they won't release the videos / full audio. Especially with the basement tapes. They say they don't want "copycats" yet the whole transcript is released for any nutjob to read. They know exactly what they said and did in the said video, so whats the difference if we actually see them saying it? It would be one thing if no transcripts were released. It really boggles my mind.
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PostSubject: Re: The full 911 Call   Tue Sep 26, 2017 11:58 am

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EXACTLY! After all Randy was there before, during, and after Columbine.

Correct me if I am wrong, but weren't Browns the only people aside from Harrises and Klebolds who saw the basement tapes? Maybe we can get new details never heard before. I can't wait until Randy's book gets finished and released.
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PostSubject: Re: The full 911 Call   Tue Sep 26, 2017 12:05 pm

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What bothers me is the fact that they released the full transcripts of the 911 call and the basement tapes, yet they won't release the videos / full audio. Especially with the basement tapes. They say they don't want "copycats" yet the whole transcript is released for any nutjob to read. They know exactly what they said and did in the said video, so whats the difference if we actually see them saying it? It would be one thing if no transcripts were released. It really boggles my mind.

IMO they released what they say are the full transcripts. I do not think they are indeed the full transcripts. I think there are edited things or things missing.

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PostSubject: Re: The full 911 Call   Tue Sep 26, 2017 12:06 pm

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EXACTLY! After all Randy was there before, during, and after Columbine.

Correct me if I am wrong, but weren't Browns the only people aside from Harrises and Klebolds who saw the basement tapes? Maybe we can get new details never heard before. I can't wait until Randy's book gets finished and released.


I think so, other then a few news outlets and the victims families. The Browns did get to see them as well. I also can't wait for Randy's book. Very Happy

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PostSubject: Re: The full 911 Call   Tue Sep 26, 2017 12:08 pm

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What bothers me is the fact that they released the full transcripts of the 911 call and the basement tapes, yet they won't release the videos / full audio. Especially with the basement tapes. They say they don't want "copycats" yet the whole transcript is released for any nutjob to read. They know exactly what they said and did in the said video, so whats the difference if we actually see them saying it? It would be one thing if no transcripts were released. It really boggles my mind.

IMO they released what they say are the full transcripts.  I do not think they are indeed the full transcripts.  I think there are edited things or things missing.  


YES! ALL OF THIS^. They released ONLY what they wanted to be known. Which is why I think the basement tapes and full 911 call will never be made public.

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PostSubject: Re: The full 911 Call   Tue Sep 26, 2017 12:42 pm

I thought that aside from law enforcement, a few reporters and the victims' (and perpetrators') families were allowed to watch the basement tapes and that's how we have access to the excerpts and descriptions that exist. Is there actually a transcript released by the police or FBI that's supposed to be complete? I thought that there was never an official release.
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PostSubject: Re: The full 911 Call   Tue Sep 26, 2017 2:24 pm

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What bothers me is the fact that they released the full transcripts of the 911 call and the basement tapes, yet they won't release the videos / full audio. Especially with the basement tapes. They say they don't want "copycats" yet the whole transcript is released for any nutjob to read. They know exactly what they said and did in the said video, so whats the difference if we actually see them saying it? It would be one thing if no transcripts were released. It really boggles my mind.

IMO they released what they say are the full transcripts.  I do not think they are indeed the full transcripts.  I think there are edited things or things missing.  

Might be true Liz, but they sure released enough to make copycats want to do their own shooting. The hatred, why they did it, the guns they had etc.
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PostSubject: Re: The full 911 Call   Tue Sep 26, 2017 7:35 pm

That surprises me too, are the Basement tapes really that bad that it would cause copycats? There have already been many since Columbine, people trying to be like E&D. The 911 tapes (including the extended version where you hear Val screaming) are brutal to listen to.

I am pretty sure Randy and Judy pretty much busted down the doors to see the BT. Something like that was in No Easy Answers.

I think Lauren's mom has said she saw the BT too. Rachel's dad did too.

If Jeffco has a FAQ page they should add

"When are the basement tapes going to be released?"

"Never, they were destroyed"
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PostSubject: Re: The full 911 Call   Wed Sep 27, 2017 3:44 am

Small update for those looking forward to Randy's book - the good news is that it's still happening and being worked on. The bad news is there has unfortunately been a bit of a delay. Hopefully it won't be too much longer.
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PostSubject: Re: The full 911 Call   Wed Sep 27, 2017 7:44 am

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Small update for those looking forward to Randy's book - the good news is that it's still happening and being worked on. The bad news is there has unfortunately been a bit of a delay. Hopefully it won't be too much longer.


Can't wait! I'm eager to read things from his perspective. Very Happy

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PostSubject: Re: The full 911 Call   Wed Sep 27, 2017 8:30 am

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Small update for those looking forward to Randy's book - the good news is that it's still happening and being worked on. The bad news is there has unfortunately been a bit of a delay. Hopefully it won't be too much longer.

Can't wait, I am glad it's going to come out, finally some refreshing. Like a Star @ heaven
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