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PostSubject: Mandalay Bay Hotel Shooting   Mon Oct 02, 2017 2:21 am

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At least one gunman is reported to have opened fire at a country music festival being held on the Las Vegas strip.
Videos on social media show hundreds of people fleeing from the scene. The sound of what appears to be automatic gunfire can be heard in some clips.
Las Vegas police have advised people to avoid the area. There are unconfirmed reports of multiple casualties.
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PostSubject: Re: Mandalay Bay Hotel Shooting   Mon Oct 02, 2017 3:38 am

Only 2 kills. Hundreds of people running away and only 2 kills. Maybe he should've taken some shooting lessons...

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PostSubject: Re: Mandalay Bay Hotel Shooting   Mon Oct 02, 2017 4:02 am

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PostSubject: Re: Mandalay Bay Hotel Shooting   Mon Oct 02, 2017 4:16 am

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Only 2 kills. Hundreds of people running away and only 2 kills. Maybe he should've taken some shooting lessons...
There will be several dead unfortunately. Probably 20+ fatalities. Will be interesting to see what the motives were. Witnesses claiming the suspect looked middle eastern or Asian.
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PostSubject: Re: Mandalay Bay Hotel Shooting   Mon Oct 02, 2017 5:13 am

This had better not be another religiously motivated attack. They're getting boring.

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PostSubject: Re: Mandalay Bay Hotel Shooting   Mon Oct 02, 2017 5:39 am

Eric and Dylan style or terrorist ?
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PostSubject: Re: Mandalay Bay Hotel Shooting   Mon Oct 02, 2017 6:40 am

Doesn't look good. I was watching the news before I left for work this morning and it said 2 dead. There was a video they showed where you could hear the gunfire and just from that you knew that 2 would soon rise to at least 20-30.
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PostSubject: Re: Mandalay Bay Hotel Shooting   Mon Oct 02, 2017 6:47 am

50 dead and 200 injured now
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PostSubject: Re: Mandalay Bay Hotel Shooting   Mon Oct 02, 2017 7:25 am

64 year old Stephen paddock
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PostSubject: Re: Mandalay Bay Hotel Shooting   Mon Oct 02, 2017 7:57 am

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50 dead and 200 injured now
holy shit. the biggest shooting ever just happened in my hometown.

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PostSubject: Re: Mandalay Bay Hotel Shooting   Mon Oct 02, 2017 8:00 am

I've been wondering when a shooting would occur on the strip

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PostSubject: Re: Mandalay Bay Hotel Shooting   Mon Oct 02, 2017 8:05 am

oh my god my aunt knows the shooter

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PostSubject: Re: Mandalay Bay Hotel Shooting   Mon Oct 02, 2017 8:07 am

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PostSubject: Re: Mandalay Bay Hotel Shooting   Mon Oct 02, 2017 8:11 am

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oh my god my aunt knows the shooter

Holy fuck.
Its not a very close relationship. She said that he's one of the "big" players they get at her casino. She's pretty shaken up.

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PostSubject: Re: Mandalay Bay Hotel Shooting   Mon Oct 02, 2017 8:31 am

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PostSubject: Re: Mandalay Bay Hotel Shooting   Mon Oct 02, 2017 8:34 am

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He shares a birthday with Eric Harris, according to this.

I know that's probably the least relevant detail I could post but there is not much information yet on the motive. The only thing I have seen that even suggests a motive is that he sued a casino in 2012 and lost but apparently, he's fairly local to the area so it wouldn't be surprising if he's there frequently.

The other interesting fact is that his female companion may have told everyone that they were 'going to die tonight.' Her identity is not certain, from what I've read, but a woman pushed her way to the front of the crowd, started bothering a lady standing there, and then shouted this about 45 minutes before the shooting. If his companion knew what was going to happen in advance, I'm curious what will happen to her in terms of legal consequences.

I'm surprised that there were so many casualties. How long did it go on? Even though this wasn't a terrorist, I would have thought that security would have been tighter at a crowded concert like this after all of the terrorism that we've seen lately. At some point, if these things keep happening, no one is going to want to go to any sort of event like this without metal detectors and armed guards at every entrance.
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PostSubject: Re: Mandalay Bay Hotel Shooting   Mon Oct 02, 2017 9:05 am

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Gunman reported to have 8 firearms, 200 magazines , 2 "shooting platforms", and cameras in the hallway.
Reminds me of Charles Whitman. Right where we started.
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It's 406 wounded now.

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PostSubject: Re: Mandalay Bay Hotel Shooting   Mon Oct 02, 2017 9:37 am

Killed himself
10 guns found in his hotel room
406 injured
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PostSubject: Re: Mandalay Bay Hotel Shooting   Mon Oct 02, 2017 9:48 am

Still trying to read the various reports on this one.

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PostSubject: Re: Mandalay Bay Hotel Shooting   Mon Oct 02, 2017 10:01 am

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PostSubject: Re: Mandalay Bay Hotel Shooting   Mon Oct 02, 2017 10:03 am

Yeah I am as well ShadowedGoddess. I just decided to wait and read more in the afternoon or tomorrow. I'm seeing lots of video being posted but it won't load at work Evil or Very Mad . I'm very interested to know his weapons/ammunition/scope, I'm sure he had some decent glass. I'm sure he didn't really have to aim a whole lot due to the congestion of people but still that's pretty long range.

I'm sure it's a semi-auto, accuracy gets destroyed by auto and if he didn't mod it and used a bumper that's even less control. I just haven't heard any audio to determine what the fire rate was.

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PostSubject: Re: Mandalay Bay Hotel Shooting   Mon Oct 02, 2017 10:17 am


There might of been metal detectors but he fired from he's windows, he even had cameras in the hotel hallways presumably so he knew when too end it.
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64 year old Stephen paddock
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He shares a birthday with Eric Harris, according to this.

I know that's probably the least relevant detail I could post but there is not much information yet on the motive. The only thing I have seen that even suggests a motive is that he sued a casino in 2012 and lost but apparently, he's fairly local to the area so it wouldn't be surprising if he's there frequently.

The other interesting fact is that his female companion may have told everyone that they were 'going to die tonight.' Her identity is not certain, from what I've read, but a woman pushed her way to the front of the crowd, started bothering a lady standing there, and then shouted this about 45 minutes before the shooting. If his companion knew what was going to happen in advance, I'm curious what will happen to her in terms of legal consequences.

I'm surprised that there were so many casualties. How long did it go on? Even though this wasn't a terrorist, I would have thought that security would have been tighter at a crowded concert like this after all of the terrorism that we've seen lately. At some point, if these things keep happening, no one is going to want to go to any sort of event like this without metal detectors and armed guards at every entrance.[/quote]
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PostSubject: Re: Mandalay Bay Hotel Shooting   Mon Oct 02, 2017 10:21 am

Choice of firearms, and the fact that there was a large gathering of people could be one of the factors of such high casualties. I would like to know the motive a bit further.
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PostSubject: Re: Mandalay Bay Hotel Shooting   Mon Oct 02, 2017 10:47 am

ISIS claimed responsibility.
I wish someone would translate 'the boy who cried Wolf' into Arabic for them.
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PostSubject: Re: Mandalay Bay Hotel Shooting   Mon Oct 02, 2017 10:49 am

Deadliest American Shooting, depending on how things fold out, possibly the worlds deadliest lone gunman shooting.
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PostSubject: Re: Mandalay Bay Hotel Shooting   Mon Oct 02, 2017 10:49 am

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ISIS claimed responsibility.
I wish someone would translate 'the boy who cried Wolf' into Arabic for them.

Which report has them claiming responsibility? I'm still flipping back and forth between different ones trying to get the gist of it.

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PostSubject: Re: Mandalay Bay Hotel Shooting   Mon Oct 02, 2017 11:10 am

I wonder if he's lost alot of money seems cliché but when I heard Vegas and that he was a big roller
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PostSubject: Re: Mandalay Bay Hotel Shooting   Mon Oct 02, 2017 12:06 pm

I just heard about this new shooting earlier this morning and the fact that another mass shooting occurred is not a surprise to me given the increasing civil unrest in the United States and the mass deterioration of people's psychological quality of life in the post industrial era.

What IS surprising to me is that the perpetrator was not young at all but instead this time a 64yr old man. As for his motive? Could be many things, dementia or perhaps he just really hated country music. The gambled away all my money motive seems pretty generic but possible as well.
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PostSubject: Re: Mandalay Bay Hotel Shooting   Mon Oct 02, 2017 12:30 pm

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There might of been metal detectors but he fired from he's windows, he even had cameras in the hotel hallways presumably so he knew when too end it.
Yep, you are right. I only saw after I posted that he had never left his room and it was a sniper style attack. Kind of explains the high number of casualties and why it could happen at all. I'm curious about the exact sort of weapons he used. Any info on that yet?

I also didn't read how long it lasted yet and I'm still curious about that. Anyone know?

And the cameras were a very smart touch. It does seem like he was intent on dying and with the cameras, he knew exactly when he had no time left.

I'd love to hear the motive. I wonder if he left any explanation. He seemed thoroughly prepared so I would be surprised to find out that he didn't write something before he did this.
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PostSubject: Re: Mandalay Bay Hotel Shooting   Mon Oct 02, 2017 1:17 pm

They really need to get on gun control, Look at Finland, UK, Australia and Japan.
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