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PostSubject: Has anyone read "A Mother's Reckoning"?   Sun Nov 19, 2017 6:52 am

I used to own a copy of A Mother's Reckoning: Living in the Aftermath of Tragedy, the book that was written by Dylan's mother published in 2014 I think. It journeys the entirety of Dylan's life from beginning to end. Anyone else read it? I thought it was beautiful and Sue Klebold sure has a colourful vocabulary in my opinion.
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PostSubject: Re: Has anyone read "A Mother's Reckoning"?   Sun Nov 19, 2017 7:07 am

Yes! There are a lot of discussion threads about it from when it first came out. There are a few things she writes about that happened to patent. The website thing for starters. Dylan didn't get Brooks the website address.

She does use a lot of colorful imagery. It probably comes from her being an artist.

It's up there for me along with Jeff Klass's book and Brooks Browns book
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PostSubject: Re: Has anyone read "A Mother's Reckoning"?   Sun Nov 19, 2017 11:14 am

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PostSubject: Re: Has anyone read "A Mother's Reckoning"?   Sun Nov 19, 2017 11:31 am

I have read it several times, and I consider Sue's book required reading when researching Columbine.

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PostSubject: Re: Has anyone read "A Mother's Reckoning"?   Sun Nov 19, 2017 11:33 am

I read it twice last year and once this year so far.
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PostSubject: Re: Has anyone read "A Mother's Reckoning"?   Sun Nov 19, 2017 2:47 pm

I've read it twice so far but I know I will read it again. There is a lot of *credible* info in it and a lot of things to change your perspective.
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PostSubject: Re: Has anyone read "A Mother's Reckoning"?   Sun Nov 19, 2017 4:45 pm

I've read it once and I cried like 3 times.. and I thought I was a coldhearted bitch. confused Soft af
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PostSubject: Re: Has anyone read "A Mother's Reckoning"?   Sun Nov 19, 2017 6:21 pm

I've had it since last year.
Never read it though. I've read Columbine and No Easy Answeres, but this book just can't seem to hold me all the way through.
I've read the first part, about the day it happened but that's about it. I find the book mundane, especially the parts about Dylan's early childhood.

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PostSubject: Re: Has anyone read "A Mother's Reckoning"?   Sun Nov 19, 2017 7:02 pm

I listened to Sue's reading of the audiobook. I was listening to the chapter on Dylan's funeral before I went to yoga and I was crying. My friends asked me if I was OK lol
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PostSubject: Re: Has anyone read "A Mother's Reckoning"?   Sun Nov 19, 2017 10:48 pm

I have read it a couple of times completely and have several parts bookmarked and return many times to reread those sections.
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PostSubject: Re: Has anyone read "A Mother's Reckoning"?   Mon Nov 20, 2017 6:52 pm

I've read it once and have listened to the audiobook (read by Sue herself!) a couple times since.
So obviously I like it a lot because it gives us a unique, intimidate perspective on Dylan that I would never have dreamt of getting.
But I'm a bit annoyed at Sue buying into Dave Cullen. She's saying she isn't trying to "excuse" Dylan's involvement or make it seem any less severe but at the same time she pretty much blames it all on Eric. Although at the same time I can't blame her, as his mother, for doing so.

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Yes! There are a lot of discussion threads about it from when it first came out.  There are a few things she writes about that happened to patent. The website thing for starters. Dylan didn't get Brooks the website address.

She does use a lot of colorful imagery. It probably comes from her being an artist.

It's up there for me along with Jeff Klass's book and Brooks Browns book

I didn't like it at all. Yeah, I enjoyed the extra information about Eric and Dylan and on the school climate in general, but with Brooks I can never tell what's the truth and what's a fabrication of his imagination.
I can't stand the Brown's as a whole. They seem so self-centered and nosy looking to seem important/the center of attention at all costs.
Like assuming E&D were in serious trouble with the police just because of Eric's website... And why would they assume Dylan was in trouble because of threats he didn't make? And get himself into trouble by telling brooks about it in the first place? Completely stupid and doesn't make any sense whatsoever.
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PostSubject: Re: Has anyone read "A Mother's Reckoning"?   Mon Nov 20, 2017 7:47 pm

I forget what Brooks' rationalization was for Dylan also getting into trouble, but I can say that after re-reading his account of that period, I don't believe it. It's easy to make things fit your narrative in retrospect. Especially since E&D are both long gone.

I believe some of what Brooks says, but I agree it's hard to believe anything 100% unless there is evidence.

I also dislike that the Browns say they tried following up with the officer multiple times...if I thought my kids life was in danger, I wouldn't stop calling until I got an answer.
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PostSubject: Re: Has anyone read "A Mother's Reckoning"?   Mon Nov 20, 2017 10:08 pm

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I've read it once and have listened to the audiobook (read by Sue herself!) a couple times since.
So obviously I like it a lot because it gives us a unique, intimidate perspective on Dylan that I would never have dreamt of getting.
But I'm a bit annoyed at Sue buying into Dave Cullen. She's saying she isn't trying to "excuse" Dylan's involvement or make it seem any less severe but at the same time she pretty much blames it all on Eric. Although at the same time I can't blame her, as his mother, for doing so.

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Yes! There are a lot of discussion threads about it from when it first came out.  There are a few things she writes about that happened to patent. The website thing for starters. Dylan didn't get Brooks the website address.

She does use a lot of colorful imagery. It probably comes from her being an artist.

It's up there for me along with Jeff Klass's book and Brooks Browns book

I didn't like it at all. Yeah, I enjoyed the extra information about Eric and Dylan and on the school climate in general, but with Brooks I can never tell what's the truth and what's a fabrication of his imagination.
I can't stand the Brown's as a whole. They seem so self-centered and nosy looking to seem important/the center of attention at all costs.
Like assuming E&D were in serious trouble with the police just because of Eric's website... And why would they assume Dylan was in trouble because of threats he didn't make? And get himself into trouble by telling brooks about it in the first place? Completely stupid and doesn't make any sense whatsoever.


That is something I never understood either about Brooks. Why would Dylan be in trouble for the website he didn't do anything regarding that. The thing I could think of was the rebel missions but Zach would've gotten in trouble too for those!
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PostSubject: Re: Has anyone read "A Mother's Reckoning"?   Fri Dec 01, 2017 3:52 am

I haven't read it yet, but I really want to.
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PostSubject: Re: Has anyone read "A Mother's Reckoning"?   Fri Dec 01, 2017 11:04 am

Guys, I have read Brooks book and unfortunately I sat through Cullens (hours of my life I wont get back)
My question is this, from the reasearch and numerous articles/topics/forums etc I have read regarding the subject and interactions with members here and elsewhere including the interactions with forum members here that attended the school.

Am I likely to learn anything new from this book? or is it more to paint a picture of Dylans life pre tragedy etc? Basically is it worth me reading when I have lots of other books I havent bothered with as of yet? Smile

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PostSubject: Re: Has anyone read "A Mother's Reckoning"?   Fri Dec 01, 2017 12:16 pm

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Guys, I have read Brooks book and unfortunately I sat through Cullens (hours of my life I wont get back)
My question is this, from the reasearch and numerous articles/topics/forums etc I have read regarding the subject and interactions with members here and elsewhere including the interactions with forum members here that attended the school.

Am I likely to learn anything new from this book? or is it more to paint a picture of Dylans life pre tragedy etc? Basically is it worth me reading when I have lots of other books I havent bothered with as of yet? Smile

Thanks in advance

In my opinion it is a good book. This is first hand info directly from someone who was involved, as she was Dylan's mom and was there before, during and after Columbine.

Yes, Sue does try to tell you what Dylan's early life was like, and she does seem to try to lessen his responsibility a bit. But its expected as she was his mother. All in all still worth the read. Smile

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PostSubject: Re: Has anyone read "A Mother's Reckoning"?   Fri Dec 01, 2017 12:17 pm

Thanks alot for that I will download it then Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Has anyone read "A Mother's Reckoning"?   Fri Dec 01, 2017 1:15 pm

I agree with ShadowedGoddess.

There are a couple facts that are incorrect, mainly Dylan giving Brooks Eric's website but that's not a big deal at all.
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PostSubject: Re: Has anyone read "A Mother's Reckoning"?   Fri Dec 01, 2017 1:19 pm

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I agree with ShadowedGoddess.

There are a couple facts that are incorrect, mainly Dylan giving Brooks Eric's website but that's not a big deal at all.

I wonder if that sort of incorrect info in her book was mainly due to Sue relying on Cullen as her fact checker?! scratch

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My heart has been so badly broken and mended again. Stronger than ever because of its dreadful wounds that I thought it could never break again. But at the sight of his face, at the knowledge that he was taking his leave forever, beyond death, it shattered.
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PostSubject: Re: Has anyone read "A Mother's Reckoning"?   Fri Dec 01, 2017 1:46 pm

More than likely yes.

Also I'm sure hearing that Dylan let people go and warned Brooks gave her comfort in knowing Dylan's humanity was still there. Even if it's not true or highly debated, I'm sure she wants to believe it for her own sanity so to speak.
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PostSubject: Re: Has anyone read "A Mother's Reckoning"?   Fri Dec 01, 2017 2:08 pm


I wonder what makes her want to take the path of believing his humanity was still there rather than acting as if he vanished with his depression, thus forming a "new Dylan" that was capable of those evil acts. I feel like that would be a copingstrategy people would normally use in her situation.

I think it honers her to not use his declining mental health as a way to distance herself from him in that way. It shows integrity

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PostSubject: Re: Has anyone read "A Mother's Reckoning"?   Mon Mar 12, 2018 11:47 pm

it was a relly good book
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