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PostSubject: Re: The small questions thread   Thu Jan 25, 2018 3:06 pm

Haha no you are not crazy. Dylans handwriting SUCKS. If he did mean "I love you" I feel like he put the o and the v together and then just happened to do a little thing after the e.

It feels just as plausible as my theory
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PostSubject: Re: The small questions thread   Thu Jan 25, 2018 3:08 pm

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Haha no you are not crazy. Dylans handwriting SUCKS. If he did mean "I love you" I feel like he put the o and the v together and then just happened to do a little thing after the e.

It feels just as plausible as my theory

That was how it looked to me but I think I might be swayed with the heart symbol

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PostSubject: Re: The small questions thread   Thu Jan 25, 2018 3:11 pm

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Haha no you are not crazy. Dylans handwriting SUCKS. If he did mean "I love you" I feel like he put the o and the v together and then just happened to do a little thing after the e.

It feels just as plausible as my theory

Back then a lot of us did "lv" for love...
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PostSubject: Re: The small questions thread   Thu Jan 25, 2018 5:04 pm

Did Dylan wear a beret? I've heard in three interviews that people had seen him wearing one. I know Chris Morris did, and people could have mistaken a baseball cap for one. I think that he may have did for a while, not for the same reason as his boots, not a military vibe but and artsy/creative vibe. I think if he did wear it then it could possibly have been inspired by his mother who stood out as an art major, and he did it during the time he was interested in theatrical plays and was writing them with Brooks. Dylan was a confused teenager, and during that time you go through many different styles of clothing, musical tastes, hair styles etc and you try to find yourself.
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PostSubject: Re: The small questions thread   Thu Jan 25, 2018 5:23 pm

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Did Dylan wear a beret? I've heard in three interviews that people had seen him wearing one. I know Chris Morris did, and people could have mistaken a baseball cap for one. I think that he may have did for a while, not for the same reason as his boots, not a military vibe but and artsy/creative vibe. I think if he did wear it then it could possibly have been inspired by his mother who stood out as an art major, and he did it during the time he was interested in theatrical plays and was writing them with Brooks. Dylan was a confused teenager, and during that time you go through many different styles of clothing, musical tastes, hair styles etc and you try to find yourself.


Chris is the one who was well known for his black beret. I would have to see photographic evidence of Dylan in a beret before I could believe he wore one. Haha

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PostSubject: Re: The small questions thread   Thu Jan 25, 2018 5:36 pm

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Did Dylan wear a beret? I've heard in three interviews that people had seen him wearing one. I know Chris Morris did, and people could have mistaken a baseball cap for one. I think that he may have did for a while, not for the same reason as his boots, not a military vibe but and artsy/creative vibe. I think if he did wear it then it could possibly have been inspired by his mother who stood out as an art major, and he did it during the time he was interested in theatrical plays and was writing them with Brooks. Dylan was a confused teenager, and during that time you go through many different styles of clothing, musical tastes, hair styles etc and you try to find yourself.

Meg Beck, the director of the Ascot Theatre claimed Dylan was wearing a beret. Maybe he thought it made him look more artsy? LOL. He may have been wearing his Red Sox cap and she did a cursory glance and thought it was a beret.

When she talks about Brooks it is interesting. He came off as more odd and awkward than Dylan did to her.




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PostSubject: Re: The small questions thread   Fri Jan 26, 2018 4:25 pm

sorry, if this has discussed before, but I still want to ask. I'm reading Bree testimony, and wonder, Eric didn't shot her only because he got the recoil from his gun right in the face and became disorientated for some moment? her "lucky" day?

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PostSubject: Re: The small questions thread   Fri Jan 26, 2018 7:53 pm

also, there is "cleaned" (not so clean but phrases in understandable) version of Valeen crying (was taken from 911 call), isn't was Eric the one who said "shut the fuck up with your bitching"?

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PostSubject: Re: The small questions thread   Fri Jan 26, 2018 8:43 pm

Wasn't it "quit your bitchin'" which was also a suggestion for the phrase of the day on the RNN?

Veik said James Davis made the suggestion but Veik also said he was gonna "Finish what Eric and Dylan started" so who knows.

Maybe it was planned.
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PostSubject: Re: The small questions thread   Fri Jan 26, 2018 9:04 pm

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Wasn't it "quit your bitchin'" which was also a suggestion for the phrase of the day on the RNN?

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PostSubject: Re: The small questions thread   Sat Jan 27, 2018 9:58 am

I want to know what people who have read Sue Klebolds book thinks of that whole incident where Dylan and everyone in class laughed when the teacher played a song.

Honestly I found the song a bit amusing and understood why they laughed when I heard it.

I feel it was kind of weird of his parents to play it for him at home and make him say it was good. I feel like they should've told him to respect other peoples opinions rather than try to make him change his own. Forcing opinions on people never works.

I feel that that whole situation says a bit about his relationship to his family, that he kind of just gave up and said the song was OK while probably still not liking it and then his parents felt like they somehow achieved something.
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PostSubject: Re: The small questions thread   Sun Jan 28, 2018 2:51 am

As far as I've ever been aware, the shooters began the massacre wearing their trench-coats.  
Is anyone familiar with what happened with those? I.e. When/where they took them off?
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PostSubject: Re: The small questions thread   Sun Jan 28, 2018 4:36 am

I'm 99% sure Eric took his off while shooting from the top of the stairs, to be able to aim better. His coat was laying outside by the entrance.

Dylan took his off in the library, I think around the time they reloaded
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PostSubject: Re: The small questions thread   Sun Jan 28, 2018 6:03 pm

Appreciate the reply. Found this photo while digging through the forums.
Just wanted to follow up for future readers.

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PostSubject: Re: The small questions thread   Sun Jan 28, 2018 8:33 pm

I have always wondered why Eric and Dylan didn't just storm the cafeteria when the propane bombs failed to detonate? I mean, if they wanted to kill 250+ people, wouldn't it make sense to go to the most densely populated area? What do you guys think?

Obviously glad they didn't as that would have been absolutely devastating. Just trying to get inside their heads.
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PostSubject: Re: The small questions thread   Sun Jan 28, 2018 9:27 pm

I honestly don't think they were quite ready for the up close and personal killings. Waiting outside while the school blows to smitherines not having to see exactly who you are killing is a lot different than blowing them away one by one...just my opinion though!
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PostSubject: Re: The small questions thread   Mon Jan 29, 2018 1:43 am

Perhaps they anticipated the bombs going off late.
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PostSubject: Re: The small questions thread   Mon Jan 29, 2018 1:49 am

NBK's original plan was to bomb up the school, kill some kids, to shot couple of cops, die young and "wikipedied" forever. And it's was totally f***ked up with Eric's lame bomb making skills (yeah, yeah, don't blame Eric, it wasn't his fault that google wasn't invented that days). They decided to improvise, it's much more easier to shot in to the static object, than to moving ones, also they wasn't so good in long range shooting . But mankind killing took less than 20 minute, and they became bored, well you know, dying people wasn't so cool in real life as in doom, otherwise I can't explain why  godlike mankind destroyers dropped their mission and left so many alive and wounded. Also, even Arlene had "bullied" Eric on the most important day of his life by stroked him right in the face (yeah, as they said on the "rampant range", she was baaaad). Cops heroically decided to wait until all solve by it self. So nothing left besides "die young mission". Interesting are they knew that after couple of years everyone in whole world gonna know with underpants the wore that day, Colorado is still god damn cruel to these guys

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PostSubject: Re: The small questions thread   Mon Jan 29, 2018 9:25 am

To be fair I have never seen any information on underpants, I'm a little impressed. Maybe tumblr isn't such a bad place after all Smile
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PostSubject: Re: The small questions thread   Mon Jan 29, 2018 9:28 am

Autopsy Reports tell you about what clothing they wore on April 20.
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PostSubject: Re: The small questions thread   Mon Jan 29, 2018 9:37 am

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I honestly don't think they were quite ready for the up close and personal killings.  Waiting outside while the school blows to smitherines not having to see exactly who you are killing is a lot different than blowing them away one by one...just my opinion though!

Good point. I didn't really consider this. I guess all that changed by the time they got to the library...
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PostSubject: Re: The small questions thread   Mon Jan 29, 2018 9:44 am

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Perhaps they anticipated the bombs going off late.

That makes sense too. And they did come back into the cafeteria to check on them a second time, so that would indicate to me that they were still hoping that they might explode.
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PostSubject: Re: The small questions thread   Mon Jan 29, 2018 9:51 am

So, only I have opinion that NBK was totally failed?

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PostSubject: Re: The small questions thread   Mon Jan 29, 2018 10:00 am

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To be fair I have never seen any information on underpants, I'm a little impressed. Maybe tumblr isn't such a bad place after all Smile
It was in autopsy report.
Fan girls was pretty happy about this information, I guess.

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PostSubject: Re: The small questions thread   Mon Jan 29, 2018 10:26 am

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So, only I have opinion that NBK was totally failed?

If you base NBK on what Eric and Dylan planned then yes it totally failed. The bombs did not go off, the library didn't come crashing down, the two didn't sit outside and pick off the fleeing kids, and they didn't die in an epic shootout with the police.

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PostSubject: Re: The small questions thread   Mon Jan 29, 2018 2:13 pm

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So, only I have opinion that NBK was totally failed?

If you base NBK on what Eric and Dylan planned then yes it totally failed.  The bombs did not go off, the library didn't come crashing down, the two didn't sit outside and pick off the fleeing kids, and they didn't die in an epic shootout with the police.  
I agree that they (especially Eric) probably perceived it as a total failure but the funny thing is that despite their destructive ambitions to ensure lasting recognition, 13 murders and two suicides were all that was necessary to shake up the entire nation and create a lasting impression that is now inching closer to being the go-to reference for school shootings for the past 20 years. And we can't forget the dozens of copycats and copycat attempts, including Seung-Hui Cho, who still holds the infamous title of "most deadly school shooter" after 10 years. The immediate plan was a failure but the "inspirational" legacy that they left behind was probably more successful than they could ever have imagined.
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PostSubject: Re: The small questions thread   Mon Jan 29, 2018 3:00 pm

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So, only I have opinion that NBK was totally failed?

If you base NBK on what Eric and Dylan planned then yes it totally failed.  The bombs did not go off, the library didn't come crashing down, the two didn't sit outside and pick off the fleeing kids, and they didn't die in an epic shootout with the police.  
I agree that they (especially Eric) probably perceived it as a total failure but the funny thing is that despite their destructive ambitions to ensure lasting recognition, 13 murders and two suicides were all that was necessary to shake up the entire nation and create a lasting impression that is now inching closer to being the go-to reference for school shootings for the past 20 years. And we can't forget the dozens of copycats and copycat attempts, including Seung-Hui Cho, who still holds the infamous title of "most deadly school shooter" after 10 years. The immediate plan was a failure but the "inspirational" legacy that they left behind was probably more successful than they could ever have imagined.
I'm agree. And truly it's an absurd situation. Also many people, who had/have the same problems as Eric in Dylan, one way or another associate themselves with E&D, even in myself I have found so many thoughts and emotions that Eric had. Unfortunately admirers cant look wide, natural selection assume the strongest one will survive, but Eric and Dylan died. Also you can be bullied and feel frustrated, but if individual dreames to stab/cut someone (important no just act of killing to satisfy inner anger, but to experience something really brutal)  that is diffidently some kind of issues beyond external factors.

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PostSubject: Re: The small questions thread   Mon Jan 29, 2018 9:02 pm

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So, only I have opinion that NBK was totally failed?

Not at all! I completely agree that NBK was a total failure. That wasn't really my question though. My question was more specific. I was just wondering why they didn't storm the cafeteria as soon as they realized the bombs hadn't detonated.
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PostSubject: Re: The small questions thread   Mon Jan 29, 2018 9:12 pm

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Not at all! I completely agree that NBK was a total failure. That wasn't really my question though. My question was more specific. I was just wondering why they didn't storm the cafeteria as soon as they realized the bombs hadn't detonated.

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PostSubject: Re: The small questions thread   Mon Jan 29, 2018 9:39 pm

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So, only I have opinion that NBK was totally failed?

Not at all! I completely agree that NBK was a total failure. That wasn't really my question though. My question was more specific. I was just wondering why they didn't storm the cafeteria as soon as they realized the bombs hadn't detonated.
because they entered the school and started to follow on students and shot in their backs, and some of them brought killers to library. Btw, at that time most of the students was already evacuated from cafeteria. immideatly after first shots Dave Sanders said that everyone need to leave, cuz it's serious.

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