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PostSubject: Re: The small questions thread   Fri Sep 07, 2018 7:43 am

What is being said at 1:04 in this hitmen for hire video? [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]

Is it Erik Veik saying it?
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PostSubject: Re: The small questions thread   Fri Sep 07, 2018 7:52 am

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Has anyone ever figured out what Eric mumbles about Trenchcoat Mafia when he is off camera during Hitmen for Hire?

Can I get a timestamp? I haven't heard that.
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PostSubject: Re: The small questions thread   Fri Sep 07, 2018 9:00 am

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Has anyone ever figured out what Eric mumbles about Trenchcoat Mafia when he is off camera during Hitmen for Hire?

Can I get a timestamp? I haven't heard that.

Yes! It’s at 1:08 after Dylan says they can keep rolling after he messes up his lines

I saw when I search for it on YouTube that someone made a reaction video to it.

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PostSubject: Re: The small questions thread   Fri Sep 07, 2018 9:35 am

Oh, ok so it's the one I was wondering about also.. now I hear it.

I can't make sense of what's being said after trench coat mafia but it seems to be an impersonation of a bully so it would be interesting to understand what kind of things they would hear walking the hallways.

The way it's being said only tells me that the rest of the line probably is a sarcastic statement about the trench coat mafia which makes them look weak or stupid in some way.

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PostSubject: Re: The small questions thread   Fri Sep 07, 2018 9:41 am

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Oh, ok so it's the one I was wondering about also.. now I hear it.

I can't make sense of what's being said after trench coat mafia but it seems to be an impersonation of a bully so it would be interesting to understand what kind of things they would hear walking the hallways.

The way it's being said only tells me that the rest of the line probably is a sarcastic statement about the trench coat mafia which makes them look weak or stupid in some way.

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I do.

It sounded like it was in a very mocking tone and was also before Dylan’s second attempt at his intimidation scene

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PostSubject: Re: The small questions thread   Fri Sep 07, 2018 9:54 am

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Oh, ok so it's the one I was wondering about also.. now I hear it.

I can't make sense of what's being said after trench coat mafia but it seems to be an impersonation of a bully so it would be interesting to understand what kind of things they would hear walking the hallways.

The way it's being said only tells me that the rest of the line probably is a sarcastic statement about the trench coat mafia which makes them look weak or stupid in some way.

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I do.

It sounded like it was in a very mocking tone and was also before Dylan’s second attempt at his intimidation scene

Yes and he reacts very strongly...

With watching the part of the video over and over in different speeds I feel like he is saying

"ah, trench coat mafia, the lies predict holder" or "the lies are pretty cold here".

Maybe something said to them when they try to call the bullies out?

I vote for the second one being said to them if the trench coat mafia ever went together to a teacher and talked about some bullying incident.. did they?
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PostSubject: Re: The small questions thread   Fri Sep 07, 2018 10:10 am

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Oh, ok so it's the one I was wondering about also.. now I hear it.

I can't make sense of what's being said after trench coat mafia but it seems to be an impersonation of a bully so it would be interesting to understand what kind of things they would hear walking the hallways.

The way it's being said only tells me that the rest of the line probably is a sarcastic statement about the trench coat mafia which makes them look weak or stupid in some way.

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I do.

It sounded like it was in a very mocking tone and was also before Dylan’s second attempt at his intimidation scene

Yes and he reacts very strongly...

With watching the part of the video over and over in different speeds I feel like he is saying

"ah, trench coat mafia, the lies predict holder" or "the lies are pretty cold here".

Maybe something said to them when they try to call the bullies out?

I vote for the second one being said to them if the trench coat mafia ever went together to a teacher and talked about some bullying incident.. did they?

I think they did.

Also I know this is a stretch but when you mentioned that I remembered the yearbook TCM quote about staying away from cream soda. And I guess that some of the bullies claimed some of the TCM were drinking beer on school grounds and got in trouble for it.

But I do think at times they tried to go talk about the bullying but it fell on deaf years so they gave up. I think that was the case for many many students there Sad

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PostSubject: Re: The small questions thread   Fri Sep 07, 2018 10:20 am

I wouldn't say lying about drinking cream soda is a cold lie though... Razz
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PostSubject: Re: The small questions thread   Wed Sep 12, 2018 7:45 am

Do you guys think it was a conscious decision for Eric and Dylan to commit suicide so close to one of their victims? If so, why?
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PostSubject: Re: The small questions thread   Wed Sep 12, 2018 9:16 am

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Do you guys think it was a conscious decision for Eric and Dylan to commit suicide so close to one of their victims? If so, why?

No. I think they assumed everyone that remained in the library was dead; I don't think they were paying attention to anyone else at that point.

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PostSubject: Re: The small questions thread   Wed Sep 12, 2018 3:41 pm

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Do you guys think it was a conscious decision for Eric and Dylan to commit suicide so close to one of their victims? If so, why?

No, I think the whole reason they went back to the library was to get a good angle at shooting first responders.

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PostSubject: Re: The small questions thread   Thu Sep 13, 2018 11:50 pm

I'm watching some of the compiled TV news reports from Columbine and shaking my head at a lot of the misinformation that was put out in the first few days. For like 2 days they said E & D were juniors and E was 17, and D was 18. I mean, that's BASIC info and they couldn't even get that right!

Anyway, I know some stuff that was reported was just wrong but several reporters have said that part of the reason that the investigative process was going so slowly was because E & D put bombs beneath the bodies of some of the victims. I remember hearing this at the time and forgetting about it. I don't recall ever reading this in any of the reports when I began researching Columbine years later.

So, this didn't happen, right? They didn't booby trap anybody did they?
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PostSubject: Re: The small questions thread   Fri Sep 14, 2018 12:47 am

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I'm watching some of the compiled TV news reports from Columbine and shaking my head at a lot of the misinformation that was put out in the first few days. For like 2 days they said E & D were juniors and E was 17, and D was 18. I mean, that's BASIC info and they couldn't even get that right!

Anyway, I know some stuff that was reported was just wrong but several reporters have said that part of the reason that the investigative process was going so slowly was because E & D put bombs beneath the bodies of some of the victims. I remember hearing this at the time and forgetting about it. I don't recall ever reading this in any of the reports when I began researching Columbine years later.

So, this didn't happen, right? They didn't booby trap anybody did they?



They didn’t. No evidence and also no time

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PostSubject: Re: The small questions thread   Fri Sep 14, 2018 6:22 am

Thank you. I thought this was the case but they just kept repeating it and I started to doubt myself!

Just goes to show how that when the news people are more interested in being first than being right, a lot of bad info gets disseminated and then it's harder to get to the actual truth of the matter.

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PostSubject: Re: The small questions thread   Fri Sep 14, 2018 7:51 am

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Just goes to show how that when the news people are more interested in being first than being right, a lot of bad info gets disseminated and then it's harder to get to the actual truth of the matter.



100% true statement there! It's usually a race to who has any info first. They care very little about fact checking for the most part. Evil or Very Mad

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PostSubject: Re: The small questions thread   Fri Sep 14, 2018 1:00 pm

Hi everyone. I'm a new member and have been enjoying trying to catch up on the wealth of information here, so my apologies if this has already been covered.

In the Denver Post article where Patti Nielson is interviewed it's reported:
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When the line was disconnected, Nielson said, it wasn't from her side. That means authorities have a 26-minute taped record of the siege in the library. Had they not lost the connection, they would have heard what transpired at the end of Harris' and Klebold's lives.

I'd thought that it was very strange to drop such an important phone call. I just read the Time article from 12/99 that says:
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Teacher Dave Sanders had been shot running in the upstairs hallway, trying to warn people; he was bleeding badly and needed help fast. But by this time the 911 lines were so flooded with calls that the phone company started disconnecting people--including Starkey.

So does anyone know why the library phone call was disconnected? Was it just randomly dropped by the phone company? It all sounds so weird.
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PostSubject: Re: The small questions thread   Fri Sep 14, 2018 1:09 pm

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So does anyone know why the library phone call was disconnected? Was it just randomly dropped by the phone company? It all sounds so weird.

I know the line remained opened far beyond the point when Patti stopped talking to them. It was confirmed that the whole library shooting was recorded.

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PostSubject: Re: The small questions thread   Fri Sep 14, 2018 5:06 pm

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So does anyone know why the library phone call was disconnected? Was it just randomly dropped by the phone company? It all sounds so weird.

No, I've never been able to find anything on it. Nielson crawled away from the phone and hid in a cabinet for 3 hours so she definitely didn't hang it up.
The phone call began at 11:27 am, and E & D enter the library 4 minutes and 10 seconds into the call. They are there for about 7 minutes and 45 seconds and then leave (around 11:36 am). And if the police timeline is accurate, E & D re-enter the library at noon, which is only 7 minutes after the 911 is said to have cut off.

To be honest, it's one of those things where I've always wondered if they don't really have the entire event (both times they were in the library) recorded on the call and for some reason they are withholding it. I'm not a suspicious person or conspiracy kind of person by nature, but Jeffco has proven to have been not forthcoming and in some cases downright deceptive, so things like this that don't quite make sense a part of me always wonders what hand Sheriff Stone and the others had it in.



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PostSubject: Re: The small questions thread   Sat Sep 15, 2018 7:24 am

Thanks for the responses. I wouldn't be entirely surprised if JeffCo had something to do with it; their reputation warrants a raised eyebrow in a lot of things.
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PostSubject: Re: The small questions thread   Sun Sep 16, 2018 11:29 am

I don’t know if I am misremembering but does anyone remember an interview were Sue talks about speaking to other parents of mass or school shooters? Eric’s parents excluded of course.

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PostSubject: Re: The small questions thread   Sun Sep 16, 2018 12:08 pm

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I don’t know if I am misremembering but does anyone remember an interview were Sue talks about speaking to other parents of mass or school shooters? Eric’s parents excluded of course.

Apparently the father of Steven Robert Curnow met the Klebolds and the Harrises and keeps in touch with the Klebolds. Lauren Townsend’s stepfather said they met Eric's parents. But I didn't find anything about Sue talking about it.
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PostSubject: Re: The small questions thread   Thu Sep 20, 2018 3:36 pm

Did Eric and Dylan actually call their outfits and supplies their kill gear?

It sounds like something Dylan would say...

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PostSubject: Re: The small questions thread   Thu Sep 20, 2018 3:44 pm

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Did Eric and Dylan actually call their outfits and supplies their kill gear?

It sounds like something Dylan would say...


That does sort of sound like something he would come out with. Haha

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PostSubject: Re: The small questions thread   Thu Sep 20, 2018 3:54 pm

When did Eric and Dylan get their cars?

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PostSubject: Re: The small questions thread   Thu Sep 20, 2018 3:57 pm

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Did Eric and Dylan actually call their outfits and supplies their kill gear?

It sounds like something Dylan would say...


 That does sort of sound like something he would come out with.  Haha

Lol

It really does. He was into the theatrics for lack of a better word


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PostSubject: Re: The small questions thread   Thu Sep 20, 2018 3:58 pm

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When did Eric and Dylan get their cars?

Eric got his first but not sure when.

I think Dylan got his October of 1997.

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PostSubject: Re: The small questions thread   Thu Sep 20, 2018 4:44 pm

Why were Eric and Dylan in the same age/year group?

I've wondered as to why this is, are the rules different in the states?
As over here in the UK Eric *should* have been one year above Dylan being born in the April 81, as age the default age group runs from September to August.

Unless Eric was held back a year which I've never heard?
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PostSubject: Re: The small questions thread   Thu Sep 20, 2018 5:35 pm

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Why were Eric and Dylan in the same age/year group?

I've wondered as to why this is, are the rules different in the states?
As over here in the UK Eric *should* have been one year above Dylan being born in the April 81, as age the default age group runs from September to August.

Unless Eric was held back a year which I've never heard?


Dylan started school earlier which is why he was always the youngest. I was born in October but I started school early so I was always the youngest as well.

Rachel was a month older than Dylan but was only a junior.

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PostSubject: Re: The small questions thread   Fri Sep 21, 2018 12:01 am

Does anyone know why CNN created [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] Was this like some original 11k? There is a forward by JeffCo. Was it for some TV special they did?

I don't see any new information, don't worry. It does show how many officers from different departments responded. Which I had never seen. It also includes download links to 911 calls and police radio.
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PostSubject: Re: The small questions thread   Tue Sep 25, 2018 1:41 pm

Sorry if it has already been asked or if it is widely known, but do we know if Eric and Dylan went to gigs ? Have they seen Rammstein, NIN or KMFDM live for example ?
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