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PostSubject: Re: Eric emotional abuse ?   Tue Dec 26, 2017 11:45 am

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I think Sue's TED talk was uploaded by two different channels on YouTube. One has the comments disabled, but the other one doesn't.

I swear it used to have nothing but supportive and understanding comments on it, but when I looked the other day it is filled with hate towards her for believing that Dylan was not an evil monster (to her).

Sue's thoughts on Dylan's involvement and mental state are such polarizing topics.

It really is. She's going to still have a memory of the kind and loving Dylan. Even his friends like Nate and Devon still remember him in some positive ways.

I still contend to this day, and I didn't know the boys, that their actions were evil. They were not.

When I mentioned to a friend, who is a mom, that I was going to see Sue speak. She was even like "she raised a killer, what does she have to say?"

She got death threats before the symposium and people walked out before she began speaking.
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PostSubject: Re: Eric emotional abuse ?   Tue Dec 26, 2017 11:48 am

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I think Sue's TED talk was uploaded by two different channels on YouTube. One has the comments disabled, but the other one doesn't.

I swear it used to have nothing but supportive and understanding comments on it, but when I looked the other day it is filled with hate towards her for believing that Dylan was not an evil monster (to her).

Sue's thoughts on Dylan's involvement and mental state are such polarizing topics.

It really is. She's going to still have a memory of the kind and loving Dylan. Even his friends like Nate and Devon still remember him in some positive ways.

I still contend to this day, and I didn't know the boys, that their actions were evil.  They were not.

When I mentioned to a friend, who is a mom, that I was going to see Sue speak. She was even like "she raised a killer, what does she have to say?"

She got death threats before the symposium and people walked out before she began speaking.

Wow, that's crazy. I'm sure Kathy has received similar threats and she doesn't even speak publicly. Both of them have been accused up and down of failing to properly raise their kids. To tie into the topic of the thread, I really don't think Eric was emotionally abused.
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PostSubject: Re: Eric emotional abuse ?   Tue Dec 26, 2017 12:00 pm

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Awesome discussion:) thank you for this 

Your welcome. Generally I like to have a dialogue with people rather than have them shut down, deplatformed, and ridiculed. I think the latter is ineffective and childish really.

I agree. I like having polite discourse

The thing about most of the questions presented in that list, is that they are just that: questions. I'm not sure what the answers or lack of answers to many of them have to do with anything or how they point to a larger conspiracy.

It would be helpful to know why these questions are important in the first place. It would also be helpful to see sources before speculating on claims that aren't backed up with evidence.

Like any kind of source material that we can draw from.

Like the whole Brenda thing was just a random person lying in a yahooo group yet still people believe it.

I still am also interested in why Sue mentioned in her book that Eric had a book at this house about mind control. I always assumed since it was in an early chapter that she was saying she thought Dylan was duped or tricked so maybe Eric had something to do with it.



i dont believe  that mindcontrol crap but wtf....
did u read the book?& where´s mentioned that?
i dont think the book would be released if there was anything about that...

I read the book and listened to the audiobook. There's one line about it.  I'll find the page.  I don't believe it either(the mind control) I was saying it was a really random line that was in there.


i got the page: "The night before the meeting, Tom and I compiled a list of questions. We were still
convinced that Dylan had either been a reluctant participant or accidentally become
entangled in something bigger than he understood at the time. We’d heard a rumor that
military training materials on brainwashing techniques had been found in the Harris home,
which had refueled our belief that Dylan had been another victim of the tragedy. It was
plausible; Mr. Harris did have a military background. I entertained fantasies that we’d be able
to hold a public memorial service."

-excerpt from a mothers reckoning p.96. chapter 10 The End of Denial

thats crazy though.

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PostSubject: Re: Eric emotional abuse ?   Tue Dec 26, 2017 12:05 pm

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I think Sue's TED talk was uploaded by two different channels on YouTube. One has the comments disabled, but the other one doesn't.

I swear it used to have nothing but supportive and understanding comments on it, but when I looked the other day it is filled with hate towards her for believing that Dylan was not an evil monster (to her).

Sue's thoughts on Dylan's involvement and mental state are such polarizing topics.

It really is. She's going to still have a memory of the kind and loving Dylan. Even his friends like Nate and Devon still remember him in some positive ways.

I still contend to this day, and I didn't know the boys, that their actions were evil.  They were not.

When I mentioned to a friend, who is a mom, that I was going to see Sue speak. She was even like "she raised a killer, what does she have to say?"

She got death threats before the symposium and people walked out before she began speaking.

Wow, that's crazy. I'm sure Kathy has received similar threats and she doesn't even speak publicly. Both of them have been accused up and down of failing to properly raise their kids. To tie into the topic of the thread, I really don't think Eric was emotionally abused.

I don't think he was either but I do contend that Eric growing up with Wayne and
Kevin being the stronger more "alpha" men may have made Eric feel inferior. As someone who grew up with a lot of health issues, having surgeries it takes a toll on your psyche. Eric loved and looked up to Kevin but he couldn't be "like" him.

Putting it into 2017 terms, it could have been toxic masculinity and it may not have been anything the family was aware of.


ETA- I am glad you found the excerpt Rebbie. It seemed like an odd thing to put in. Though I kind of get why.. she was thinking of anything that could explain how her son could do this
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PostSubject: Re: Eric emotional abuse ?   Tue Dec 26, 2017 12:11 pm

i can definitely see how his size and medical condition combined with having a dad with a military background and an older brother who was likely praised by his parents could have contributed to an inferiority complex in Eric.
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PostSubject: Re: Eric emotional abuse ?   Tue Dec 26, 2017 3:34 pm

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I don't think he was either but I do contend that Eric growing up with Wayne and
Kevin being the stronger more "alpha" men may have made Eric feel inferior. As someone who grew up with a lot of health issues, having surgeries it takes a toll on your psyche. Eric loved and looked up to Kevin but he couldn't be "like" him.

Putting it into 2017 terms, it could have been toxic masculinity and it may not have been anything the family was aware of.

Completely agree with this. I think Eric thought he had to try to be the Alpha male type, because that's what he considered his dad to be. His brother as well. While he was probably a little jealous of Kevin, he also admired him.

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PostSubject: Re: Eric emotional abuse ?   Tue Dec 26, 2017 3:46 pm

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I don't think he was either but I do contend that Eric growing up with Wayne and
Kevin being the stronger more "alpha" men may have made Eric feel inferior. As someone who grew up with a lot of health issues, having surgeries it takes a toll on your psyche. Eric loved and looked up to Kevin but he couldn't be "like" him.

Putting it into 2017 terms, it could have been toxic masculinity and it may not have been anything the family was aware of.

Completely agree with this.  I think Eric thought he had to try to be the Alpha male type, because that's what he considered his dad to be.  His brother as well. While he was probably a little jealous of Kevin, he also admired him.

Exactly.

Eric also surrounded himself and tried to emulate taller and more "edgy and cool" guys I mean.. Chris and Dylan not the coolest of course but they were into the counter culture, Chris had a girlfriend, they were bigger, Dylan cultivated a "stay away from me" vibe with his sunglasses and long hair. Eric was skinny and preppy but didn't fit in with the preps so screw it you know? That's just my opinion.
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PostSubject: Re: Eric emotional abuse ?   Tue Dec 26, 2017 4:29 pm

“military training materials on brainwashing techniques had been found in the Harris home”
Could someone please post the list from the searching of Harris home?
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PostSubject: Re: Eric emotional abuse ?   Tue Dec 26, 2017 6:09 pm

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“military training materials on brainwashing techniques had been found in the Harris home”
Could  someone please post the list from  the searching of Harris home?

I don't have time to look through again at the moment but here's a link to start...

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PostSubject: Re: Eric emotional abuse ?   Tue Dec 26, 2017 9:31 pm

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Awesome discussion:) thank you for this 

Your welcome. Generally I like to have a dialogue with people rather than have them shut down, deplatformed, and ridiculed. I think the latter is ineffective and childish really.

I agree. I like having polite discourse

The thing about most of the questions presented in that list, is that they are just that: questions. I'm not sure what the answers or lack of answers to many of them have to do with anything or how they point to a larger conspiracy.

It would be helpful to know why these questions are important in the first place. It would also be helpful to see sources before speculating on claims that aren't backed up with evidence.

Like any kind of source material that we can draw from.

Like the whole Brenda thing was just a random person lying in a yahooo group yet still people believe it.

I still am also interested in why Sue mentioned in her book that Eric had a book at this house about mind control. I always assumed since it was in an early chapter that she was saying she thought Dylan was duped or tricked so maybe Eric had something to do with it.

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Awesome discussion:) thank you for this 

Your welcome. Generally I like to have a dialogue with people rather than have them shut down, deplatformed, and ridiculed. I think the latter is ineffective and childish really.

I agree. I like having polite discourse

The thing about most of the questions presented in that list, is that they are just that: questions. I'm not sure what the answers or lack of answers to many of them have to do with anything or how they point to a larger conspiracy.

It would be helpful to know why these questions are important in the first place. It would also be helpful to see sources before speculating on claims that aren't backed up with evidence.

Like any kind of source material that we can draw from.

Like the whole Brenda thing was just a random person lying in a yahooo group yet still people believe it.

I still am also interested in why Sue mentioned in her book that Eric had a book at this house about mind control. I always assumed since it was in an early chapter that she was saying she thought Dylan was duped or tricked so maybe Eric had something to do with it.


i dont believe  that mindcontrol crap but wtf....
did u read the book?& where´s mentioned that?
i dont think the book would be released if there was anything about that...

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I think Sue's TED talk was uploaded by two different channels on YouTube. One has the comments disabled, but the other one doesn't.

I swear it used to have nothing but supportive and understanding comments on it, but when I looked the other day it is filled with hate towards her for believing that Dylan was not an evil monster (to her).

Sue's thoughts on Dylan's involvement and mental state are such polarizing topics.

Well, I'll respond to QuestionMark and Screamingophelia's posts about my questions regarding Columbine. In my opinion, Eric was under MK Ultra and Eric and Dylan both were TI's (targeted individuals) and so I thought I'd respectfully explain why:


Upon relocating to Littleton, Harris received psychiatric treatment for obsessive compulsive disorder (OCO) and depression, and was allegedly prescribed Luvox. This should have been a mind-control red flag to Littleton law enforcement and the district attorney, but was apparently ignored. OCO is a commonly-observed trait among mind-controlled victims, resulting from prolonged trauma-based programming. It sometimes manifests in the need to undergo rigorous physical exercise.




Moreover, although Luvox is an inefficient anti-depressant. It is a very effective synergist to facilitate subliminal thoughts implanted via directed-energy devices. John Quinn on the Newshawk Inc. Website. Quinn claims to have received information from a scientist who was allegedly involved in mind-control activities at Plattsburg Air Force Base, in upstate New York state, where Eric Harris's father - a career Air Force officer, was stationed. This facility, officially closed In 1994, still emits electromagnetic signals from a subterranean source (it purportedly has an eighteen level underground complex).







Now, Plattsburgh AFB has a VAST, 18-level subterranean facility. Plattsburgh AFB closed in 1994, was supposedly completely inoperative and the property due to be "recycled" for various other uses by September 1995. However covert, secret activities still took place at the base after 1995. The peculiarities regarding the text of documents from Eric Harris’s website and the likelihood that father Wayne Harris was connected to not only the documents themselves but ALSO to the activities described therein can not be forgotten.




Local residents and other eyewitnesses report that the base, though somewhat deserted, was still in some level of operation in 1997 even on the "surface," AND that top-secret operations were definitely going on in the documented 18-level underground complex beneath the base. This was verified by EM/RF signal detection equipment. Aside from mind control related operations, the base at Plattsburgh has currently been verified as a site of particle accelerator/beam research and experimentation.

There are indications that in the 1960s Plattsburgh AFB was linked to the horrendous Ewen Cameron, president of the American Psychiatric Association, The Canadian Psychiatric Association AND the World Psychiatric Association, and his massive abuses in the MKULTRA (drug and neuroelectrically-based mind control) Project just over the border in Montreal. Reports indicate that this legacy continued at Plattsburgh through the 70s and beyond with electromagnetic/radio-frequency MK activities tied to some of the experimentation at Montauk.




Mentioned also in "Phoenix Undead" (which was an article by writer, John Quinn) another location for covert operations linked to Montauk’s mind control experimentation, is a base named Stewart Air Force Base in New York, in between Plattsburgh and Montauk. Military facilities at Malta, N.Y. are also strongly tied to MK operations at both Montauk and Plattsburgh.





Now, to Eric Harris and how he's connected to this (MK Ultra and Plattsburgh AFB) - Columbine perpetrator Eric Harris was born in Plattsburgh and spent his whole life there until his family moved to Littleton in 1996. Eric Harris's father was an Air Force pilot stationed at Plattsburgh AFB. Now, it was noted that a girl at Columbine High School said gunman Eric Harris's "eyes were dead." Also Eric Harris was being treated by a psychiatrist and was on Luvox, one of a class of drugs similar to Prozac, which like Prozac has been proven a potentially deadly combination when taken my mentally or emotionally unstable people, at least in certain instances.

What's also interesting is that Eric's psychiatrist was supposedly not only unaware of Eric's violent and blatantly antisocial tendencies but also of the many reports and studies showing the potential for disaster with Luvox and similar drugs when administered to younger people in general. Ewen Cameron, with his inexhaustible supply of connections to the CIA, NSA and other ultra-malevolent intelligence agencies and their equally malevolent agendas, was in fact the president of all the world's major psychiatric associations.

Cameron's successor, the current president of the American Psychiatric Association, felt called upon to issue a public statement on April 30 about the fact that Eric Harris was not only being treated by a psychiatrist who was incomprehensibly ignorant of his propensity for violence but that Eric's psychiatrist had also prescribed the mind-altering drug Luvox for Eric.




The official statement said that there is "little" valid evidence (notice it did NOT say "no" valid evidence) which proves Luvox can precipitate seriously violent outbursts. Regardless of such "official" blather, a plethora of tests and real world experiences have
proven that these drugs, selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors, can be deadly when administered to unstable personalities- especially young people.


It is with certainty that administration of this drug (and very likely others) was one of many programming techniques used to turn Eric Harris into a sociopathic, conscience-less, vicious killer. Additionally the administration of Luvox may very well have been implemented to serve as a "cover" in a way: that is, a convenient explanation for what most human beings would consider inconceivably brutal and inexplicable behavior.



Also, a representative at a website called, Newshawk INC. stated that they located one of Eric's Plattsburgh friends, who allegedly claimed that Eric had complained to him that he had been repeatedly drugged during mind-control activities at Plattsburgh, Air Force base. Also, one researcher/scientist at Plattsburgh Air Force base told an alternative news organization that he was one of the many "guinea pigs" of an MKULTRA-type project being run at the base.


When the Harrises moved to Littleton after Wayne Harris retired from the military, the horror wasn't over. Littleton is close to Denver International Airport (Which Eric even mentions in his Journal), which is rumored to serve as a cover for an underground government complex. While the rumors of an underground complex remain officially unconfirmed (Though a massive amount of evidence shows that they are true), what is a fact is that the airport is shaped like a Swastika, and that inside are bizarre paintings of death, destruction, and despair, as well as cryptic words on the ground and Masonic capstones, as well as a keypad that has no apparent purpose.




Now also here's some comparisons with Eric Harris and MK Ultra:


Eric named one of his pipe bombs DELTA and that's interesting because DELTA is a name for a certain level of MK Ultra mind programming. MK Ultra DELTA Mind programming is known as “killer” programming and was originally developed for training special agents or elite soldiers (i.e. Delta Force, First Earth Battalion, Mossad, etc.) in covert operations. Optimal adrenal output and controlled aggression are evident.

Subjects are devoid of fear and very systematic in carrying out their assignment. Self-destruct or suicide instructions are layered in at this level. “Delta” programming exists to remove fear and ensure that orders are followed until the very last breath. Now the traits/signs of those who are under MK Ultra Delta mind programming are:

* loss of inhibition and fear (Eric didn't have a fear of dying)

* loyalty to “handlers” (which is why it's believed from the transcripts of the basements, that Eric said he had "the greatest fucking parents" because Wayne specifically - but Kathy as well were his handlers, and that's whom he showed loyalty too)


* invoking megalomania “super being” (Eric thought he was "God-like")


Eric specifically (but Dylan as well) talked about how their world had become like a dream, where they couldn’t tell the difference between the dream world and the waking world, and that is a trait of MK Ultra mind control and regular mind control disassociation. Also Eric and Dylan talking about how their world had become like a dream - those are now virtually the same words as Jared Loughner who, in his various ramblings, talked about “sleepwalking” during the day and “conscience dreaming” at other times.




Eric carved into his gun the name "Arlene", many believe it's because that's a name associated with the game "Doom". However, yes it is but more so, the name "Arlene" is associated with MK Ultra mind programming. You see, "Arlene" is the name of an MK Ultra mind controlled personality that can be created within a person. In fact, there was a model named Candy Jones - she was an MK Ultra mind controlled victim and the MK Ultra mind controlled personality of "Arlene" was created within her and that personality turned her into a merciless, psychopathic-like killer (sound familiar to someone involved in Columbine?)




Now, even though Doom is an awesome game, it has been reported that video games like Doom (another one is Polybius) are MK Ultra mind controlled brainwashing games that assist in MK Ultra mind controlled experiments. Now how do they assist? Well because most MK Ultra mind controlled victims who are trained to be killers, often see life as a violent video game, where they must kill their enemies, who they deem evil. In fact, when these MK Ultra mind controlled killers carry out their mission, they do so while thinking that at that point, they're in a violent video game (MK Ultra mind controlled killer James Holmes stated this too, that he felt he was in a violent video game during the shooting).




Now with MK Ultra mind programming, the victim doesn't often know that an alternate, killer personality has been created within them - unless they're told. I believe when Eric and his family came to Colorado and he suspected that he wasn't no longer just being used as a guinea pig for MK Ultra but that now he was being used as an MK Ultra hired assassin, he gean to research MK Ultra (which is why the book on mind control was found in his room). He was trying to discover if he really was an MK Ultra mind controlled - soon to be killer victim, however, Eric had yet to definitely find proof that he was an MK Ultra mind controlled victim (because this was in 98/99 - so before the technology we have today to truly find out things like we can today). Also it was hard for Eric to find definite proof when - through his handler, Wayne, he was bent sent in and out of his MK Ultra mind controlled alternate personality, which was "REB".




Now by Dylan wasn't a victim of MK Ultra but was more so a victim of government gang stalking. One trait/symptom of gang-stalking is depression and suicidal feelings (which is what Dylan felt and talked about in his journal). Being a targeted individual (gang stalking) also can cause mind control.

Through being a TI (targeted individual), the government can:

* Control thoughts and thought patterns; feelings and their expression; behavior control.

* Through being a TI (targeted individual), the government can create hypnotic ”trigger words” that results in specific sensations, feelings or behaviors.

* Induce dreams or manipulation of dreams (sound familiar to someone regarding Columbine?)





Targeted Individuals also become victims of social crimes BY the government such as:


* Fabrication of false evidence that justifies ”Crime prevention” (fabrication of evidence of crime and rumor spreading);

In almost every case, Targeted Individuals are accused of a crime with no chance to defend oneself. This was the case when Eric and Dylan were accused of doing drugs and were pulled out of class and had their persons and their lockers searched (only for school staff and police staff to find no drugs at all). However this was done because Eric and Dylan were targeted individuals by the government.


Targeted individuals are also often accused of being crazy or having a mental illness and are put on mental illness drugs (which is
what happened to both Eric and Dylan, despite neither having any sort of mental illness). Another sign of being a targeted individual
is being BULLIED by your fellow school peers, co-workers and/or others in general. This leads to the targeted individual to feel and be
isolated (such as the case with Eric and Dylan).

Another trait of being a targeted individual is specifically called Gang stalking, which is having rude people in crowds appear and insult the individual(s), using both verbal and non-verbal, physical and non-physical communication). Another trait is having 20 people, or more, strategically placed to - for example - look with a hateful look at the targeted Individual(s).


They appear every time the targeted individual(s) is (or are) outside, and it can take many different expressions. Sometimes it looks like they have some kind of scheme and the harassment follows a pattern, and when it achieves a certain stage, they reset themselves and it starts all over again.


Also targeted individuals are also subjected to increase sexual urges. These urges are increased by the government through gang stalking mind control and this was done specifically in Eric, which is why he had such an increased sexual urge a majority of the time.


So I added some additional links that informs what MK Ultra Mind control is, what being a targeted individual is and so those are my beliefs to what happened with Columbine and Eric and Dylan. Eric was under MK Ultra mind control and both Eric and Dylan were targeted individuals who were subjected to mind control (and also other mental and emotional tortures) because of it and that's why - I believe, the Columbine massacre happened.




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PostSubject: Re: Eric emotional abuse ?   Mon Jan 29, 2018 1:19 pm

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Rachel Scott's father...Rachel Scott, the same Rachel Scott, who's brother claimed that Rachel had a conversation with Eric and Dylan on 4/20 that went like this:

"What would Jesus do?” says Klebold.

“Do you still believe in God?” asks Harris.

“You know I do,” Rachel answers.

“Then go be with him,” Harris says before firing the fatal shot.

Despite the fact that there was no evidence that such a conversation like that took place, but this conversation was made to make it look like E&D only killed her because she was a christian. Yeah, lol so it's highly unlikely that I'd believe Rachel Scott's dad.

Also, it's not just the basement tapes, there were other pieces of evidence that belonged to Eric and Dylan, such as Eric's microcassette tape labeled "Nixon". Were the victims families' able to view that as well? How about the green steno book found in a desk drawer at Eric's home? The book that belonged to Wayne? He used it to write down various matters concerning his son’s supposed mental health, errant behavior and interactions with neighbors and authorities. Were the families allowed to view that as well?

I doubt it. Like I said, and I'll end it like this. Yes, my opinions are my opinions. It's also the opinions of a lot of people who have thoroughly investigated into the Columbine case. There's a big secret regarding what really happened to Eric and Dylan and regarding the real reason why they committed NBK but as I stated, it's a secret that the public aren't supposed to know about. Only Sue and Tom and Kathy and Wayne can, and of course the victims' families - whom are only allowed to present forth the truth that the government wants people to believe regarding Eric and Dylan.

However it is what it is. People believe what they choose for their minds to believe.

idk what they tried to  reach  with the movie, Im not ashamed ,but some informations are incorrect  that dylan,eric&rachel were in same class is just horsebull.they didnt know her,neither said a word to her . smh... and i was not surprised that the trailer of the movie was down on Youtube.
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PostSubject: Re: Eric emotional abuse ?   Mon Jan 29, 2018 2:28 pm

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Now by Dylan wasn't a victim of MK Ultra but was more so a victim of government gang stalking. One trait/symptom of gang-stalking is depression and suicidal feelings (which is what Dylan felt and talked about in his journal). Being a targeted individual (gang stalking) also can cause mind control.

Through being a TI (targeted individual), the government can:

* Control thoughts and thought patterns; feelings and their expression; behavior control.

* Through being a TI (targeted individual), the government can create hypnotic ”trigger words” that results in specific sensations, feelings or behaviors.

* Induce dreams or manipulation of dreams (sound familiar to someone regarding Columbine?)





Targeted Individuals also become victims of social crimes BY the government such as:


* Fabrication of false evidence that justifies ”Crime prevention” (fabrication of evidence of crime and rumor spreading);

In almost every case, Targeted Individuals are accused of a crime with no chance to defend oneself. This was the case when Eric and Dylan were accused of doing drugs and were pulled out of class and had their persons and their lockers searched (only for school staff and police staff to find no drugs at all). However this was done because Eric and Dylan were targeted individuals by the government.


Targeted individuals are also often accused of being crazy or having a mental illness and are put on mental illness drugs (which is
what happened to both Eric and Dylan, despite neither having any sort of mental illness). Another sign of being a targeted individual
is being BULLIED by your fellow school peers, co-workers and/or others in general. This leads to the targeted individual to feel and be
isolated (such as the case with Eric and Dylan).

Another trait of being a targeted individual is specifically called Gang stalking, which is having rude people in crowds appear and insult the individual(s), using both verbal and non-verbal, physical and non-physical communication). Another trait is having 20 people, or more, strategically placed to - for example - look with a hateful look at the targeted Individual(s).


They appear every time the targeted individual(s) is (or are) outside, and it can take many different expressions. Sometimes it looks like they have some kind of scheme and the harassment follows a pattern, and when it achieves a certain stage, they reset themselves and it starts all over again.


Also targeted individuals are also subjected to increase sexual urges. These urges are increased by the government through gang stalking mind control and this was done specifically in Eric, which is why he had such an increased sexual urge a majority of the time. 

I'd recommend watching this video on gang stalking and the kinds of people who believe in it.


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PostSubject: Re: Eric emotional abuse ?   Tue Feb 06, 2018 12:58 pm

Basically children fully or partially reflecting the attitude of their parents towards them. Habits, figure of speech, tone of voice is representing family atmosphere. If parent yelling on child there is a huge possibility that child will be do the same, especially in the age of puberty, when it's not so easy to control your emotions. So I do think that Eric had an emotional abuse. But to be honest alot of kids more or less had it in their life.

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PostSubject: Re: Eric emotional abuse ?   Tue Feb 06, 2018 3:40 pm

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Basically children fully or partially reflecting the attitude of their parents towards them. Habits, figure of speech, tone of voice is representing family atmosphere. If parent yelling on child there is a huge possibility that child will be do the same, especially in the age of puberty, when it's not so easy to control your emotions. So I do think that Eric had an emotional abuse. But to be honest alot of kids more or less had it in their life.


I agree with you. But I really don't consider normal yelling as abuse. It really all depends on the type of yelling and the things being yelled.

My family is a very loud mouthed bunch. We argue and yell. BUT I can honestly say that I had a great childhood. I never felt like I was being abused when I was yelled at by my parents. Yet again this would all depend on what was being said.

If Eric's father was yelling at him in a way that hurt his feelings and made him feel ashamed of himself, or if he was just completely verbally destroyed with this yelling then YES I would say that would be emotional abuse.

Although we only have Eric saying that his parents were the greatest and that he loved them. You would think that if he was being screamed at all the time that he would have mentioned it somewhere. The only time it was really talked about was on that paperwork.

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