Columbine High School Massacre Discussion Forum

A place to discuss the Columbine High School Massacre along with other school shootings and crimes.
Anyone interested in researching, learning, discussing and debating with us, please come join our community!
 
HomeHome  PortalPortal  CalendarCalendar  FAQFAQ  SearchSearch  MemberlistMemberlist  RegisterRegister  Log inLog in  
Share | 
 

 Line Interpretation- Dylan's will

Go down 
AuthorMessage
Screamingophelia
Miscellaneous Moderator & Top 10 Contributor
avatar

Posts : 4471
Contribution Points : 76966
Join date : 2017-08-25
Age : 37

PostSubject: Line Interpretation- Dylan's will   Wed Jan 03, 2018 1:31 pm

Who was it to? I assume Zach or Nate.

Also did he mean getting "fuckt" like effed over because of what Dylan
And Eric did?

WILL

Ok, this is my will. This is a fucking human thing to do, but whatever,
[edited] - You were a badass, never failed to get me up when i was down. Thx. You get

FUCKT


Also I found a small apology letter to a redacted girl. Saying I love you, sorry for freaking you out.
Back to top Go down
View user profile
Littlelo

avatar

Posts : 1210
Contribution Points : 17428
Join date : 2017-04-26

PostSubject: Re: Line Interpretation- Dylan's will   Wed Jan 03, 2018 1:38 pm

Dylan's "Will" always confused me. I can't understand why he started it off as if it was for a close friend, and then ends it like that.

I'd assume it was for Nate or Zach, possibly Chris? Nate said between the friends, Chris was closest to them in the months before the shooting. But I would lean more towards Nate...
Back to top Go down
View user profile
ShadowedGoddess
Other Crimes Moderator & Top 10 Contributor
avatar

Posts : 6206
Contribution Points : 76739
Join date : 2017-03-03

PostSubject: Re: Line Interpretation- Dylan's will   Wed Jan 03, 2018 2:08 pm

I kinda agree that he did mean it like that. scratch Pretty much making light of the fact that he knew "redacted" would catch a lot of flack for being his friend.

Now who he was aiming that towards is harder to pinpoint. But I do agree that Zach or Nate are the most likely of the group.

_________________
''I have been astonished that men could die martyrs for religion—I have shuddered at it. I shudder no more—I could be martyred for my religion—Love is my religion—I could die for that.''                                                                                                                                      
                                                        -John Keats (1795-1821)

“Love never dies a natural death. It dies because we don't know how to replenish its source. It dies of blindness and errors and betrayals. It dies of illness and wounds; it dies of weariness, of witherings, of tarnishings.”

                                                        - Anaïs Nin
Back to top Go down
View user profile
QuestionMark
Top 10 Contributor
avatar

Posts : 2718
Contribution Points : 37446
Join date : 2017-09-04

PostSubject: Re: Line Interpretation- Dylan's will   Wed Jan 03, 2018 2:10 pm

I think "fuckt" was a typo and he meant to spell "fuck it". Like he started writing it out then decided it was a dumb thing to do and stopped.

_________________
"My guns are the only things that haven't stabbed me in the back."
-Kip Kinkel
Back to top Go down
View user profile
ShadowedGoddess
Other Crimes Moderator & Top 10 Contributor
avatar

Posts : 6206
Contribution Points : 76739
Join date : 2017-03-03

PostSubject: Re: Line Interpretation- Dylan's will   Wed Jan 03, 2018 2:13 pm

[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:
I think "fuckt" was a typo and he meant to spell "fuck it". Like he started writing it out then decided it was a dumb thing to do and stopped.

Or he could have just put "t" in the place of the "ed". Still sounds the same when said. We all know that Dylan liked to make up words or spellings, and had a weird way of writing at times.

_________________
''I have been astonished that men could die martyrs for religion—I have shuddered at it. I shudder no more—I could be martyred for my religion—Love is my religion—I could die for that.''                                                                                                                                      
                                                        -John Keats (1795-1821)

“Love never dies a natural death. It dies because we don't know how to replenish its source. It dies of blindness and errors and betrayals. It dies of illness and wounds; it dies of weariness, of witherings, of tarnishings.”

                                                        - Anaïs Nin
Back to top Go down
View user profile
Screamingophelia
Miscellaneous Moderator & Top 10 Contributor
avatar

Posts : 4471
Contribution Points : 76966
Join date : 2017-08-25
Age : 37

PostSubject: Re: Line Interpretation- Dylan's will   Wed Jan 03, 2018 2:24 pm

[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:
I think "fuckt" was a typo and he meant to spell "fuck it". Like he started writing it out then decided it was a dumb thing to do and stopped.

Huh! That does make sense.
Back to top Go down
View user profile
Screamingophelia
Miscellaneous Moderator & Top 10 Contributor
avatar

Posts : 4471
Contribution Points : 76966
Join date : 2017-08-25
Age : 37

PostSubject: Re: Line Interpretation- Dylan's will   Wed Jan 03, 2018 2:28 pm

[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:
Dylan's "Will" always confused me. I can't understand why he started it off as if it was for a close friend, and then ends it like that.

I'd assume it was for Nate or Zach, possibly Chris? Nate said between the friends, Chris was closest to them in the months before the shooting. But I would lean more towards Nate...

I'm not sure why but I always assumed Chris was closer to Eric than Dylan.

I'm thinking Nate too because he seems to be the only one that really followed up with Dylan's family and checked in, it seems like from the symposium he still does.

Honestly Devon always seemed a little surface level. And Zach didn't have anything nice to say, though he did go to his funeral. I'm still a little sketchy on that because Sue said it was nate and zach's parents, but Zach is actually listed as being at the funeral.

Did Chris get kicked out of his house just because he was friends with him or was there something else?


Back to top Go down
View user profile
Littlelo

avatar

Posts : 1210
Contribution Points : 17428
Join date : 2017-04-26

PostSubject: Re: Line Interpretation- Dylan's will   Wed Jan 03, 2018 2:31 pm

Chris did get kicked out of his house following the shooting. I've never seen a straight answer regarding the reason beyond his original detainment. He was cleared and actually cooperated with investigators so I'm not sure I believe there wasn't another reason behind it...
Back to top Go down
View user profile
ShadowedGoddess
Other Crimes Moderator & Top 10 Contributor
avatar

Posts : 6206
Contribution Points : 76739
Join date : 2017-03-03

PostSubject: Re: Line Interpretation- Dylan's will   Wed Jan 03, 2018 2:32 pm

[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:
Chris did get kicked out of his house following the shooting. I've never seen a straight answer regarding the reason beyond his original detainment. He was cleared and actually cooperated with investigators so I'm not sure I believe there wasn't another reason behind it...

That whole situation was never really cleared up. scratch

_________________
''I have been astonished that men could die martyrs for religion—I have shuddered at it. I shudder no more—I could be martyred for my religion—Love is my religion—I could die for that.''                                                                                                                                      
                                                        -John Keats (1795-1821)

“Love never dies a natural death. It dies because we don't know how to replenish its source. It dies of blindness and errors and betrayals. It dies of illness and wounds; it dies of weariness, of witherings, of tarnishings.”

                                                        - Anaïs Nin
Back to top Go down
View user profile
QuestionMark
Top 10 Contributor
avatar

Posts : 2718
Contribution Points : 37446
Join date : 2017-09-04

PostSubject: Re: Line Interpretation- Dylan's will   Wed Jan 03, 2018 7:04 pm

[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:
I think "fuckt" was a typo and he meant to spell "fuck it". Like he started writing it out then decided it was a dumb thing to do and stopped.

Or he could have just put "t" in the place of the "ed". Still sounds the same when said. We all know that Dylan liked to make up words or spellings, and had a weird way of writing at times.

Possibly, but I think he meant to spell "fuck it" because at the very beginning of the will he writes "This is a fucking human thing to do, but whatever," which indicates to me that he was already having doubts about writing the will in the first place. So he starts writing, then angrily gives up before finishing the first sentence, believing that making a will is too human, not worth his time. 

I think on TBT he mentions who he would like to give some of his stuff to anyway so perhaps he viewed making a will in addition to what he said as unnecessary.

_________________
"My guns are the only things that haven't stabbed me in the back."
-Kip Kinkel
Back to top Go down
View user profile
sscc
Top 10 Contributor


Posts : 1194
Contribution Points : 30654
Join date : 2016-02-27

PostSubject: Re: Line Interpretation- Dylan's will   Wed Jan 03, 2018 7:55 pm

[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:
I think "fuckt" was a typo and he meant to spell "fuck it". Like he started writing it out then decided it was a dumb thing to do and stopped.

Or he could have just put "t" in the place of the "ed". Still sounds the same when said. We all know that Dylan liked to make up words or spellings, and had a weird way of writing at times.

Possibly, but I think he meant to spell "fuck it" because at the very beginning of the will he writes "This is a fucking human thing to do, but whatever," which indicates to me that he was already having doubts about writing the will in the first place. So he starts writing, then angrily gives up before finishing the first sentence, believing that making a will is too human, not worth his time. 

I think on TBT he mentions who he would like to give some of his stuff to anyway so perhaps he viewed making a will in addition to what he said as unnecessary.
I agree with your interpretation.

I think part of the reason that Dylan participated in the massacre may be that he wanted to transcend his humanity and prove that this life was meaningless among the infinite existences of the universe. I think he felt that admitting that he cared what happened to his possessions after death by writing a will was betraying his own godliness in some way. I think that he wanted to prove to himself that he was done with life on this earth but this will contradicted that. He wanted to "break free" but he was bogged down in his humanity. He needed to let go of everything that mattered to him in this material world in order to go through with the massacre and he knew it.
Back to top Go down
View user profile
 
Line Interpretation- Dylan's will
Back to top 
Page 1 of 1
 Similar topics
-
» Type In A Line Of Your Favorite Song
» Fallout Equestria: The Line
» Welcome to Sunny Florida ... wait ... crap.
» My Penis is wanted by the FBI...
» [Official!] Project Horizons Comment Crew Chat thread.

Permissions in this forum:You cannot reply to topics in this forum
Columbine High School Massacre Discussion Forum :: Columbine High School Massacre Discussion Forum :: Thoughts on the Shooting-
Jump to: