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PostSubject: Re: 2011 Norway Attacks (Olso & Utøya)/Anders Behring Breivik   Wed Aug 22, 2018 2:03 am

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21 years for murdering 77 people?

For comparison: America gave Bernie Madoff 150 years for running a Ponzi Scheme.
21 years is the biggest sentence in Norway.

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PostSubject: Re: 2011 Norway Attacks (Olso & Utøya)/Anders Behring Breivik   Wed Aug 22, 2018 10:16 am

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21 years for murdering 77 people?

For comparison: America gave Bernie Madoff 150 years for running a Ponzi Scheme.
21 years is the biggest sentence in Norway.

There should be an exception for heinous crimes such as this.

Edit: Apparently they can extend his sentence - which they most certainly will. Still their system is much more lax than here in America.

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PostSubject: Re: 2011 Norway Attacks (Olso & Utøya)/Anders Behring Breivik   Wed Aug 22, 2018 6:17 pm

It would be very interesting in the very extremely unlikely case if hes released after 21 years like has there been any major mass murderers at all that served time in prison but were eventually released? Can't think any at all atm and if Anders was released that would definitely make him one of a kind.
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PostSubject: Re: 2011 Norway Attacks (Olso & Utøya)/Anders Behring Breivik   Wed Aug 22, 2018 7:35 pm

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Basically he explains that he had a really shitty year 2013 and some guy at his school died and he got into thinking about death and columbine and that ghost squad shit and basically you also get to know he hates his dad for pressuring him to get a job all the time (even when he had one) and for not being personal with him. It made him feel like his Dad never cared to recognize him for who he was.
His Dad is the type of guy who is over 50 and whose Facebook wallpaper is a shirtless photo of himself.
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PostSubject: Re: 2011 Norway Attacks (Olso & Utøya)/Anders Behring Breivik   Wed Aug 22, 2018 8:27 pm

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21 years for murdering 77 people?

For comparison: America gave Bernie Madoff 150 years for running a Ponzi Scheme.
21 years is the biggest sentence in Norway.

There should be an exception for heinous crimes such as this.

Edit: Apparently they can extend his sentence - which they most certainly will. Still their system is much more lax than here in America.
Yeah, if I'm correct I'm pretty sure if they decide he's still messed up they can give him another 21 year sentence, or they can just keep giving him 21 year sentences when they run out or something (don't quote me on that though).

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PostSubject: Re: 2011 Norway Attacks (Olso & Utøya)/Anders Behring Breivik   Thu Sep 13, 2018 8:52 am



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PostSubject: Re: 2011 Norway Attacks (Olso & Utøya)/Anders Behring Breivik   Fri Sep 14, 2018 8:49 am

Found audio of Ander's full closing statement in court, most versions are only around 12 minutes long, this is about 46 minutes long

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You can even hear people laughing at Breivik at certain points during his speech.
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PostSubject: Re: 2011 Norway Attacks (Olso & Utøya)/Anders Behring Breivik   Sun Sep 16, 2018 4:05 pm

If Anders Brievik does get let out in 15 years , he would probably try and kill people with a stolen van, as he regreted not killing more.
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PostSubject: Re: 2011 Norway Attacks (Olso & Utøya)/Anders Behring Breivik   Sun Sep 16, 2018 7:33 pm

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Looks interesting but OF COURSE it can only be watched by the 10th October too fucking late!
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PostSubject: Re: 2011 Norway Attacks (Olso & Utøya)/Anders Behring Breivik   Mon Sep 17, 2018 11:22 am

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Looks interesting but OF COURSE it can only be watched by the 10th October too fucking late!
What do you mean? It's being released on 10th October.
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PostSubject: Re: 2011 Norway Attacks (Olso & Utøya)/Anders Behring Breivik   Thu Nov 01, 2018 8:52 am

I just read in Breivik's manifesto that France was number 1 Western European primary targets. Yet it was also for a long time ISIS top target, at least in Europe... I guess we just have the best of both worlds...

Same for the UK and Germany...
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PostSubject: Re: 2011 Norway Attacks (Olso & Utøya)/Anders Behring Breivik   Thu Nov 01, 2018 10:26 am

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well, it's "good" to be mass murder in Norway, cuz he will be in jail only for 25 years, and than he is free to go! And he study there, also he sue the prison he sits in (just google this prison, it's like a 3star hotel), and he WON the trial against the prison and won a compensation 40 000 dollars!!! Can you imagine!? He killed 69 people and most of them was a kids!
It's only 21 years, though if they decide he's not fit to go back into society again they can just give him another 21 years and check on him again then.

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PostSubject: Re: 2011 Norway Attacks (Olso & Utøya)/Anders Behring Breivik   Thu Nov 01, 2018 10:27 am

I watched the recent movie about him. Was pretty good though it mostly focused on the aftermath.

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PostSubject: Re: 2011 Norway Attacks (Olso & Utøya)/Anders Behring Breivik   Thu Nov 01, 2018 10:36 am

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I watched the recent movie about him. Was pretty good though it mostly focused on the aftermath.

On pages 25 and 26 of the Random Discussion thread, QuestionMark and I talked about it if you want to give your opinion. I don't know if it's worth created a topic for this movie, or maybe we could comment about it in [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.].

Have you seen Utoya 22. Juli?
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PostSubject: Re: 2011 Norway Attacks (Olso & Utøya)/Anders Behring Breivik   Thu Nov 01, 2018 12:21 pm

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I watched the recent movie about him. Was pretty good though it mostly focused on the aftermath.

On pages 25 and 26 of the Random Discussion thread, QuestionMark and I talked about it if you want to give your opinion. I don't know if it's worth created a topic for this movie, or maybe we could comment about it in [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.].

Have you seen Utoya 22. Juli?
I haven't seen Utoya 22. Juli. I might search for it though. I'll read Sabratha's review on it first though.

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PostSubject: Re: 2011 Norway Attacks (Olso & Utøya)/Anders Behring Breivik   Thu Nov 01, 2018 12:24 pm

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I watched the recent movie about him. Was pretty good though it mostly focused on the aftermath.

On pages 25 and 26 of the Random Discussion thread, QuestionMark and I talked about it if you want to give your opinion. I don't know if it's worth created a topic for this movie, or maybe we could comment about it in [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.].

Have you seen Utoya 22. Juli?
I haven't seen Utoya 22. Juli. I might search for it though. I'll read  Sabratha's review on it first though.
Nevermind, I read her review, doesn't seem interesting to me.

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PostSubject: Re: 2011 Norway Attacks (Olso & Utøya)/Anders Behring Breivik   Thu Nov 01, 2018 12:28 pm

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I watched the recent movie about him. Was pretty good though it mostly focused on the aftermath.

On pages 25 and 26 of the Random Discussion thread, QuestionMark and I talked about it if you want to give your opinion. I don't know if it's worth created a topic for this movie, or maybe we could comment about it in [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.].

Have you seen Utoya 22. Juli?
I haven't seen Utoya 22. Juli. I might search for it though. I'll read  Sabratha's review on it first though.
Nevermind, I read her review, doesn't seem interesting to me.

I liked it a lot and didn't really agree with her review. If you're interested in the shooting itself, you'll probably like Utoya 22. Juli. It's only the shooting but it is not done in a sensational, action-focused way. It is very immersive and quite shocking when seen with the sound very loud on a big screen. If you're interested in the Aftermath the Netflix movie is better for you.
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PostSubject: Re: 2011 Norway Attacks (Olso & Utøya)/Anders Behring Breivik   Sun Nov 04, 2018 5:04 pm

Why did Breivik changed his name to Fjotolf Hansen last year?
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PostSubject: Re: 2011 Norway Attacks (Olso & Utøya)/Anders Behring Breivik   Sun Nov 04, 2018 5:11 pm

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Why did Breivik changed his name to Fjotolf Hansen last year?
I think it's because he converted to Paganism.

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PostSubject: Re: 2011 Norway Attacks (Olso & Utøya)/Anders Behring Breivik   Sun Nov 04, 2018 5:23 pm

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Why did Breivik changed his name to Fjotolf Hansen last year?
I think it's because he converted to Paganism.

Maybe, it could be that.

Already in his manifesto he had anglicized his name to Andrew Berwick, which I find rather ironical because to me it shows that because of anti-multiculturalism he has to appropriate another culture, to adapt. Although obviously adapting to another European country was not really the issue.

And I just found out there's a real "Andrew Berwick", Chief Executive Officer of something called The Access Project.
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PostSubject: Re: 2011 Norway Attacks (Olso & Utøya)/Anders Behring Breivik   Sun Nov 04, 2018 11:43 pm

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Why did Breivik changed his name to Fjotolf Hansen last year?
I think it's because he converted to Paganism.
I thought he rejected Odinism and neopaganism in favor of Christianity in his manifesto. Yet again, who knows with Breivik? The guy made up his own paramilitary secret society and continues to pretend it's not LARPing.
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PostSubject: Re: 2011 Norway Attacks (Olso & Utøya)/Anders Behring Breivik   Mon Nov 05, 2018 5:29 am

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Why did Breivik changed his name to Fjotolf Hansen last year?
I think it's because he converted to Paganism.
I thought he rejected Odinism and neopaganism in favor of Christianity in his manifesto. Yet again, who knows with Breivik? The guy made up his own paramilitary secret society and continues to pretend it's not LARPing.
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I thought he was not that much a religious man, but instead was very fond of Christinaity as a culture. He even intended to spend a lot of money on two high class prostitutes before the attacks so that he was relaxed, and wrote that it was a very small sin in comparison to what was to follow. But it may have changed by now, given that many inmates seem to need religion in prison.



About his original name, here is what he wrote:

"I am very proud of my Viking heritage. My name, Breivik, is a location name from northern Norway, and can be dated back to even before the Viking era. Behring is a preChristian Germanic name which is derived from Behr, the Germanic word for Bear (or “those who are protected by the bear”). Anders (Andreas) is the Scandinavian equivalent of; English: Andrew, Greek: Andreus, Italian: Andrea, Russian: Andrey."

And about Fjotolf Hansen, apparently Fjotolf is an extremely rare name, that could be the typical name of a viking in a movie. Hansen is one of the most common surname in Norway. So there is a mix between being the typical Norway person and having this "exceptionalism" that has been passed through history and the biological heritage. I don't know if this is a possible explanation. I think there is a more pragmatic reason.
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PostSubject: Re: 2011 Norway Attacks (Olso & Utøya)/Anders Behring Breivik   Wed Nov 21, 2018 6:02 pm

What I find really interesting is that Breivik carved words onto his guns:

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"Gungnir" on his Rifle which is the name of Odin's Spear.

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And "Mjölnir" on his Glock which is the name of Thor's Hammer.

I find this interesting because Breivik is one of the few Shooters to not only give their weapons names but to also carve on their weapons, I also think this helps with the idea of Breivik converting to Paganism which made him change his name.

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PostSubject: Re: 2011 Norway Attacks (Olso & Utøya)/Anders Behring Breivik   Sat Nov 24, 2018 5:23 am

He will never get out. 21 years is just the maximum the court can set as time of punisment.. He can apply to be set free after ten years, but that will never happen.It can be extended by 5 years each time after he has served 21 years, and it will be, when taken into consideration how serious a crime he is in prison for.. He is still a risk, he do not regret and thinks he killed too few people, so he is to great a risk to set free.
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PostSubject: Re: 2011 Norway Attacks (Olso & Utøya)/Anders Behring Breivik   Sat Nov 24, 2018 6:34 am

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He will never get out. 21 years is just the maximum the court can set as time of punisment.. He can apply to be set free after ten years, but that will never happen.It can be extended by 5 years each time after he has served 21 years, and it will be, when taken into consideration how serious a crime he is in prison for.. He is still a risk, he do not regret and thinks he killed too few people, so he is to great a risk to set free.

Although he may be annoyed to be in prison now that he is in prison, he was aware that he would never get out. He thought he could kill himself after the shooting or that he would be killed, but he didn't. He preferred to keep his mission and to spread his opinions during the trial. He denied having mental health issues, even though it was his only chance not to get a life sentence, so that he could convince more people. Him being in prison for life makes him more of a martyr in his eyes: he gave his life for his cause and was sentenced by people he thinks as not legitimate. His only hopes are probably the same as Dylann Roof, that is being freed by people who agree with him and have taken power.
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PostSubject: Re: 2011 Norway Attacks (Olso & Utøya)/Anders Behring Breivik   Thu Nov 29, 2018 8:36 pm

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He will never get out. 21 years  is just the maximum the court can set as time of punisment..  He can apply to be set free after ten years, but that will never happen.It can be extended by 5 years each time after he has served 21 years, and it will be, when taken into consideration how serious a crime he is in prison for.. He is still a risk, he do not regret and thinks he killed too few people, so he is to great a risk to set free.

Although he may be annoyed to be in prison now that he is in prison, he was aware that he would never get out. He thought he could kill himself after the shooting or that he would be killed, but he didn't. He preferred to keep his mission and to spread his opinions during the trial. He denied having mental health issues, even though it was his only chance not to get a life sentence, so that he could convince more people. Him being in prison for life makes him more of a martyr in his eyes: he gave his life for his cause and was sentenced by people he thinks as not legitimate. His only hopes are probably the same as Dylann Roof, that is being freed by people who agree with him and have taken power.
Do you have a source to where he said "He thought he could kill himself after the shooting or that he would be killed, but he didn't."

I have never heard that before and would like to see a source of this statement because I have never heard this before and I always assumed he planned to be captured alive to spread his political message through the trials.

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PostSubject: Re: 2011 Norway Attacks (Olso & Utøya)/Anders Behring Breivik   Fri Nov 30, 2018 1:40 am

If i remember, he called 911 to the police tomaximize his chance of getting arrested, whilst most Shooters would would want to get into a fatal Shootout with police.
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PostSubject: Re: 2011 Norway Attacks (Olso & Utøya)/Anders Behring Breivik   Fri Nov 30, 2018 8:51 am

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He will never get out. 21 years  is just the maximum the court can set as time of punisment..  He can apply to be set free after ten years, but that will never happen.It can be extended by 5 years each time after he has served 21 years, and it will be, when taken into consideration how serious a crime he is in prison for.. He is still a risk, he do not regret and thinks he killed too few people, so he is to great a risk to set free.

Although he may be annoyed to be in prison now that he is in prison, he was aware that he would never get out. He thought he could kill himself after the shooting or that he would be killed, but he didn't. He preferred to keep his mission and to spread his opinions during the trial. He denied having mental health issues, even though it was his only chance not to get a life sentence, so that he could convince more people. Him being in prison for life makes him more of a martyr in his eyes: he gave his life for his cause and was sentenced by people he thinks as not legitimate. His only hopes are probably the same as Dylann Roof, that is being freed by people who agree with him and have taken power.
Do you have a source to where he said "He thought he could kill himself after the shooting or that he would be killed, but he didn't."

I have never heard that before and would like to see a source of this statement because I have never heard this before and I always assumed he planned to be captured alive to spread his political message through the trials.


Here is an extract from an article by the Guardian about his court:

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Hearing a helicopter overhead, Breivik said he considered killing himself. "I thought, 'do I really want to survive this? I will be the most hated person in Norway and every day for the rest of my life will be a nightmare.' And then I looked over and saw my Glock [pistol], and I thought, 'all right should I shoot myself in the head?'"

But what stopped him pulling the trigger was the thought of the 1,801-page manifesto he had spent five years compiling in an attempt to make Norway wake up to what he sees as the "systematic deconstruction of the Norwegian and European culture" from multiculturalism. "I thought about the compendium, thought, 'you are obliged to fight and if you are unable to fulfil a mission you should let yourself be arrested and fight for your cause through the judicial procedure or prison.'"
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