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PostSubject: Re: Do you ever feel sorry for E&D?   Mon Feb 26, 2018 9:41 pm

I do not feel sorry for killers like these. They decided and chose their fates. They now both reside in Hell, tormented forever for their foolish actions. They destroyed many lives and families and started a terrible string of copycat killers plaguing this nation. They are not to be idolized in any way, shape or form. They chose the devils path and it cost many their lives and them, their eternity. They were cold blooded killers who are now recieving the just judgement of God.....forever....
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PostSubject: Re: Do you ever feel sorry for E&D?   Mon Feb 26, 2018 10:07 pm

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I do not feel sorry for killers like these. They decided and chose their fates. They now both reside in Hell, tormented forever for their foolish actions. They destroyed many lives and families and started a terrible string of copycat killers plaguing this nation. They are not to be idolized in any way, shape or form. They chose the devils path and it cost many their lives and them, their eternity. They were cold blooded killers who are now recieving the just judgement of God.....forever....

Personally I think if their punishment is to be tortured forever without any hope of escaping it, then I'd feel more sorry for them than ever before.

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PostSubject: Re: Do you ever feel sorry for E&D?   Mon Feb 26, 2018 11:15 pm

In that respect, they are to be pitied yes. But in the respect that they did what they did, no. They made a very conscious decision to end the lives of as many people as they could. They're reaping what they sowed and they alone decided this...
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PostSubject: Re: Do you ever feel sorry for E&D?   Tue Feb 27, 2018 12:51 am

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In that respect, they are to be pitied yes. But in the respect that they did what they did, no. They made a very conscious decision to end the lives of as many people as they could. They're reaping what they sowed and they alone decided this...

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What scares me is even on this site I'm seeing kids almost idolizing these two killers. It scares and saddens me. The devil is real, folks. He is real and his goal is to kill, steal and destroy. There was alot of that in Columbine. He pushed these two kids to murder, stole the lives from their victims and destroyed a lot of families and started a string of similar crimes in our schools and universities throughout this land. These two are NOT heroes or to be looked at in any positive light whatsoever. They are murderers. They both now reside in hell, forever under torment, in the land of darkness and hate and torment and nothing good, basically. Weeping and gnashing of teeth forever. This is not something to emulate or follow, AT all. It's disgusting, vile, evil and wicked and you will be under the judgement of Almighty God if even you even think to do such a vile thing. Do not emulate the wicked, but follow the good!

in another post you say that the devil made them kill but in this post you say that they chose to kill. make up your mind and stop contradicting yourself.
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PostSubject: Re: Do you ever feel sorry for E&D?   Tue Feb 27, 2018 1:01 am

No contradiction whatsoever. The devil most definately influenced them to do this, without a doubt. But they have to pull the trigger. Not hard to understand....
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PostSubject: Re: Do you ever feel sorry for E&D?   Tue Feb 27, 2018 1:05 am

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No contradiction whatsoever. The devil most definately influenced them to do this, without a doubt. But they have to pull the trigger. Not hard to understand....

But if the devil influenced them how much choice did they really have in the matter?

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PostSubject: Re: Do you ever feel sorry for E&D?   Tue Feb 27, 2018 1:14 am

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No contradiction whatsoever. The devil most definately influenced them to do this, without a doubt. But they have to pull the trigger. Not hard to understand....


"definately"


i have dyslexia and even i spell better then that. also shouldnt it be sportster and not sporttster?
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PostSubject: Re: Do you ever feel sorry for E&D?   Tue Feb 27, 2018 4:33 am

I do, they knew what they were doing was terrible, they are not innocent but I do feel like people let them down. Like with Dylan's paper, the teacher called his parents. Gave it to the counselor.. I think that was a pivotal moment. Almost like a "Hey, someone stop me." Kinda thing. Just my opinion. I think their boss should have done something when they brought the pipe bomb to work. There were signs.. everyone failed those boys. They failed each other. I can't help but wonder if they didn't feel like they could discuss openly their reservations without some kind of fear. Fear of the other turning on you, the fear of them telling someone and getting caught with all of the evidence etc etc

I tend to agree about the silent cold feet thing. They could have killed everyone in that library. They didn't. Why not? I think a part of them regretted it. Seemed like they enjoyed wrecking the school more than killing people.

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PostSubject: Re: Do you ever feel sorry for E&D?   Tue Feb 27, 2018 4:35 am

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No contradiction whatsoever. The devil most definately influenced them to do this, without a doubt. But they have to pull the trigger. Not hard to understand....


As an atheist, the devil didn't make them do anything. They made the decision to do it.

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PostSubject: Re: Do you ever feel sorry for E&D?   Tue Feb 27, 2018 6:02 am

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@Sporttster wrote:
No contradiction whatsoever. The devil most definately influenced them to do this, without a doubt. But they have to pull the trigger. Not hard to understand....


As an atheist, the devil didn't make them do anything. They made the decision to do it.

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yeah but expect sporttster to get triggered over that. he literally contradicted himself and tried to blow it off
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PostSubject: Re: Do you ever feel sorry for E&D?   Tue Feb 27, 2018 11:33 pm

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But if the devil influenced them how much choice did they really have in the matter?

The same amount of choice any one of us has when confronted with temptation to do evil. You either give in or you don't......they not only gave in but were joyful in the destruction they caused. Now they're facing the judgement of God forever. I'm sure they aren't smiling today.....
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PostSubject: Re: Do you ever feel sorry for E&D?   Wed Feb 28, 2018 12:51 am

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But if the devil influenced them how much choice did they really have in the matter?

The same amount of choice any one of us has when confronted with temptation to do evil. You either give in or you don't......they not only gave in but were joyful in the destruction they caused. Now they're facing the judgement of God forever. I'm sure they aren't smiling today.....

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PostSubject: Re: Do you ever feel sorry for E&D?   Wed Feb 28, 2018 2:20 am

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Now they're facing the judgement of God forever. I'm sure they aren't smiling today.....

I don't mean to get this far off topic, but if God is going to punish someone for their sins literally forever, and in a horrible, torturous way, then to me that's far worse then anything Eric and Dylan did while alive.

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PostSubject: Re: Do you ever feel sorry for E&D?   Wed Feb 28, 2018 2:56 am

I think they are in purgatory. They were messed up children. Though I’m agnostic and not religious

None of us know what’s beyond for us. However, I won’t spread hate and say someone is being tortured etc.

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PostSubject: Re: Do you ever feel sorry for E&D?   Wed Feb 28, 2018 11:42 am

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well i have something interesting to that :
since it was snowing that day after Es&Ds bodies were taken out of school
Isaiah 1:18
"Come now, and let us reason together," Says the LORD, "Though your sins are as scarlet, They will be as white as snow; Though they are red like crimson, They will be like wool.

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PostSubject: Re: Do you ever feel sorry for E&D?   Wed Feb 28, 2018 6:43 pm

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well i have something interesting to  that :
since it was snowing that day after Es&Ds bodies were taken out of school
Isaiah 1:18
"Come now, and let us reason together," Says the LORD, "Though your sins are as scarlet, They will be as white as snow; Though they are red like crimson, They will be like wool.

It doesn't snow after every sin though. So, your point?

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PostSubject: Re: Do you ever feel sorry for E&D?   Wed Feb 28, 2018 8:33 pm

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well i have something interesting to  that :
since it was snowing that day after Es&Ds bodies were taken out of school
Isaiah 1:18
"Come now, and let us reason together," Says the LORD, "Though your sins are as scarlet, They will be as white as snow; Though they are red like crimson, They will be like wool.

It doesn't snow after every sin though. So, your point?

Maybe it does and that is why winter is so depressing, it's either that or the lack of D-vitamins... who knows.
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PostSubject: Re: Do you ever feel sorry for E&D?   Mon Mar 05, 2018 9:19 am

They extinguished any empathy I could ever feel for them when they decided to kill innocent kids who never taunted or bullied them in their lives.
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PostSubject: Re: Do you ever feel sorry for E&D?   Fri May 18, 2018 3:27 am

I agree! I think going into nbk the thought of destroying the school was a major factor! And had the bombs went off the library would’ve been brought down on commons! So when bombs didn’t go off they had to know they weren’t going to destroy the school. One reason I have sympathy for them is had they just waited and graduated they would’ve figured out that high school isn’t really that big of a deal compared to the rest of your life!! I find that so sad, they were almost out of the place they hated!!
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PostSubject: Re: Do you ever feel sorry for E&D?   Fri May 18, 2018 4:54 am

I feel bad for them as young men. But the moment Eric said "Go, go!" ... it was the point of no return and the decision to go from teenagers with their whole freakin lives ahead of them to killers is unforgivable. No one has the right to take another living human beings life away.

Society failed Dylan and Eric. The "help" Eric received was not anywhere near what he needed. I seriously wished Dylan would have gotten some help to, but again, it may not have been good enough. But I think they were long gone long before they started shooting at the school. Something switched their brains into putting everything into NBK and they ran with the idea. I think in the final months there was a lot of serious doubt, and questioning of their character to themselves...but when outside influences (constant bullying) fuel your rage, that part of yourself can take over easily with a mentally unhealthy person. Especially when you share these experiences and feelings with your best friend.

I kind of find the whole thing ironic... I mean, you get picked on your whole middle school/high school life... you plan this huge bombing of your school and it fails( you made the bombs that morning! What did you think was going to happen?). You break your nose while killing someone cause you were to dumb to think the guns recoil wont hit you and it's all because you hadn't even had a year of experience with a gun. Then you try to shoot at the bombs so they will go off and they still don't. And then when you off yourself, that one molotov cocktail on the table gets put out by sprinklers. It's almost laughable. Their plans for mass chaos and destruction failed miserably... so not only were you losers in life- you were losers in death. I'm sure they felt like absolute shit... this was suppose to be huge, but in the end even though 13 people were murdered by Eric and Dylan, it wasn't what it was suppose to be. And thank goodness for that..

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PostSubject: Re: Do you ever feel sorry for E&D?   Fri May 18, 2018 8:25 am

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well i have something interesting to  that :
since it was snowing that day after Es&Ds bodies were taken out of school
Isaiah 1:18
"Come now, and let us reason together," Says the LORD, "Though your sins are as scarlet, They will be as white as snow; Though they are red like crimson, They will be like wool.

It doesn't snow after every sin though. So, your point?

Maybe it does and that is why winter is so depressing, it's either that or the lack of D-vitamins... who knows.

Doesn't tend to snow a lot in the summer, and God knows that there's plenty of sin to go around during the warmer seasons.

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PostSubject: Re: Do you ever feel sorry for E&D?   Sun May 20, 2018 4:51 pm

I feel sorry for E&D because the negative atmosphere at Columbine high school forced them to take action.
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PostSubject: Re: Do you ever feel sorry for E&D?   Sun May 20, 2018 11:51 pm

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Personally I think if their punishment is to be tortured forever without any hope of escaping it, then I'd feel more sorry for them than ever before.


I agree
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PostSubject: Re: Do you ever feel sorry for E&D?   Sun May 20, 2018 11:56 pm

Yeah I do, I feel more empathy for Dylan because I relate to him more.
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PostSubject: Re: Do you ever feel sorry for E&D?   Mon May 21, 2018 1:14 am

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I feel sorry for E&D because the negative atmosphere at Columbine high school forced them to take action.

I don't believe it forced them to shoot up their school. Never forget they had a choice. It may have factored into them doing it, but the choice was ultimately their own.
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