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PostSubject: Jan. 30 is the 20th anniversary of the van break-in   Tue Jan 23, 2018 4:13 pm

As of Tuesday, January 30 - one week from today - it will have been twenty years since the van break-in.

By this time next year, we will be preparing to mark the twentieth anniversary of NBK.

Time marches on. Eric, Dylan, and 12 of their victims have been dead longer than they were alive. (It will be many years before Dave Sanders reaches that milestone.)

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PostSubject: Re: Jan. 30 is the 20th anniversary of the van break-in   Tue Jan 23, 2018 4:16 pm

Ive been thinking of my pithy January incident post for that day...

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PostSubject: Re: Jan. 30 is the 20th anniversary of the van break-in   Tue Jan 23, 2018 4:19 pm

Always thinking about the point of no return that gonna brought all those people that day to school and bound their life and deaths forever. Yeah, mby it was a van...
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PostSubject: Re: Jan. 30 is the 20th anniversary of the van break-in   Tue Jan 23, 2018 4:46 pm

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Always thinking about the point of no return that gonna brought all those people that day to school and bound their life and deaths forever. Yeah, mby it was a van...


I think it was more than just breaking into a van because they were bored. I think it was probably a trust thing for NBK. It really solidified their friendship and trust.
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PostSubject: Re: Jan. 30 is the 20th anniversary of the van break-in   Tue Jan 23, 2018 4:59 pm

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Always thinking about the point of no return that gonna brought all those people that day to school and bound their life and deaths forever. Yeah, mby it was a van...


I think it was more than just breaking into a van because they were bored. I think it was probably a trust thing for NBK. It really solidified their friendship and trust.

I don't necessarily believe the break in its-self solidified their bond, but getting caught and the repercussions that followed likely did. That's when they realized they were in this shit together.

EVEN though Eric did try to place the blame all on Dylan. The little snitch! Haha

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PostSubject: Re: Jan. 30 is the 20th anniversary of the van break-in   Tue Jan 23, 2018 5:02 pm

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Always thinking about the point of no return that gonna brought all those people that day to school and bound their life and deaths forever. Yeah, mby it was a van...


I think it was more than just breaking into a van because they were bored. I think it was probably a trust thing for NBK. It really solidified their friendship and trust.
Sure there was a several reasons why they done what they done... Sometimes I try to imagine how they started all that preparation, it's like you seating at home full of hate and talking about how good will be blow away the school and kill all students, and next moment you are buying a guns and making pipe bombs.
Paradoxical moment is that they finished their life in place they hated so much, it was a natural selection to clean world from people include themselves.


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PostSubject: Re: Jan. 30 is the 20th anniversary of the van break-in   Tue Jan 23, 2018 5:09 pm

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Always thinking about the point of no return that gonna brought all those people that day to school and bound their life and deaths forever. Yeah, mby it was a van...


I think it was more than just breaking into a van because they were bored. I think it was probably a trust thing for NBK. It really solidified their friendship and trust.

I don't necessarily believe the break in its-self solidified their bond, but getting caught and the repercussions that followed likely did. That's when they realized they were in this shit together.

EVEN though Eric did try to place the blame all on Dylan. The little snitch! Haha

You have a good point.

Dylan’s “evil” karmic revenge... not only did Dylan call Eric just his good friend BUT people blame most of the massacre on Eric
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PostSubject: Re: Jan. 30 is the 20th anniversary of the van break-in   Tue Jan 23, 2018 6:18 pm

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Paradoxical moment is that they finished their life in place they hated so much, it was a natural selection to clean world from people include themselves.


I can agree to that. Eric pretty much thought the human race in general was lost and not worth fighting for. That included himself.

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PostSubject: Re: Jan. 30 is the 20th anniversary of the van break-in   Tue Jan 23, 2018 7:32 pm

It's also going to be the anniversary of my birth.  Shocked
Happy birthday to me I guess.
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PostSubject: Re: Jan. 30 is the 20th anniversary of the van break-in   Tue Jan 23, 2018 8:08 pm

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It's also going to be the anniversary of my birth.  Shocked
Happy birthday to me I guess.

You can also celebrate like Zach Heckler that night and go to a church function and argue with someone?
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PostSubject: Re: Jan. 30 is the 20th anniversary of the van break-in   Tue Jan 23, 2018 8:10 pm

Also, this interview was from earlier that day Jan 30, 1998.

Pretty weird coincidence.

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PostSubject: Re: Jan. 30 is the 20th anniversary of the van break-in   Tue Jan 23, 2018 8:19 pm

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Also, this interview was from earlier that day Jan 30, 1998.

Pretty weird coincidence.

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Yes!! He was so disarming and hand... sorry

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PostSubject: Re: Jan. 30 is the 20th anniversary of the van break-in   Tue Jan 23, 2018 8:36 pm

I wonder if the van is still out there driving or got turned into soda cans

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PostSubject: Re: Jan. 30 is the 20th anniversary of the van break-in   Tue Jan 23, 2018 8:37 pm

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Also, this interview was from earlier that day Jan 30, 1998.

Pretty weird coincidence.

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Yes!! He was so disarming and hand... sorry

Later that day, the downward spiral begins
I'm always wondering why he didn't want to dress up like that to school, he looks quite cute here.
His trench coat scared away all girls. lol.

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PostSubject: Re: Jan. 30 is the 20th anniversary of the van break-in   Tue Jan 23, 2018 8:42 pm

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Also, this interview was from earlier that day Jan 30, 1998.

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Yes!! He was so disarming and hand... sorry

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I'm always wondering why he didn't want to dress up like that to school, he looks quite cute here.
His trench coat scared away all girls. lol.

Yes. Junior year Dylan was quite handsome, that and in the behind blackjack video senior year.

He probably did dress like that, he just wore his jacket over it. He wanted to get reactions and cultivate a look.

The story about Dylan scaring people came from Judy who said she heard it from Sue... i guess they were at a restaurant and he didn’t take his coat and sunglasses off and he was making people uncomfortable.
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PostSubject: Re: Jan. 30 is the 20th anniversary of the van break-in   Tue Jan 23, 2018 9:04 pm

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The story about Dylan scaring people came from Judy who said she heard it from Sue... i guess they were at a restaurant and he didn’t take his coat and sunglasses off and he was making people uncomfortable.

It's a teenager protest, i guess. I remember when I was 16, I dressed up like Wednesday Adams, lol. Of course I wasn't so popular, cuz I looked creepy and strange, but it's was an expression of my inside world.
Today is much easier to be different, than in late 90. But still, appearances are deceptive, no one can imagine that this cute shy guy can take a gun and kill kids.

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PostSubject: Re: Jan. 30 is the 20th anniversary of the van break-in   Tue Jan 23, 2018 9:44 pm

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The story about Dylan scaring people came from Judy who said she heard it from Sue... i guess they were at a restaurant and he didn’t take his coat and sunglasses off and he was making people uncomfortable.

It's a teenager protest, i guess. I remember when I was 16, I dressed up like Wednesday Adams, lol. Of course I wasn't so popular, cuz I looked creepy and strange, but it's was an expression of my inside world.
Today is much easier to be different, than in late 90. But still, appearances are deceptive, no one can imagine that this cute shy guy can take a gun and kill kids.

Especially in Littleton at that time, now it is different. When I was there for work I spoke to so many people who were so open and kind etc....

I had a friend in HS who was bullied like me, and she TRIED so hard to fit in but everyone seemed to know that she was just trying and no matter what she wore, she didn't fit in...

The cute guy killing people is the exact thing when I saw Eric's picture that day. We are the same age (I'm in my 30's..) and I remember as clear as day coming home from school, news is on, Patrick Ireland is falling out of the window and I'm hearing 4 20 year olds wearing swatzika arm bands are ambushing a high school then they show Eric and Dylan's pictures and I was like "Eric is hot, why did he kill people" then we learn it's a theatre tech guy and a gamer... then the rest is history... sordid past of ScreamingOphelia LOL.

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PostSubject: Re: Jan. 30 is the 20th anniversary of the van break-in   Tue Jan 23, 2018 9:54 pm

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It's also going to be the anniversary of my birth.  Shocked
Happy birthday to me I guess.

You can also celebrate like Zach Heckler  that night and go to a church function and argue with someone?


Well it's better than going out and stealing crt computer monitors from a van.
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PostSubject: Re: Jan. 30 is the 20th anniversary of the van break-in   Tue Jan 23, 2018 9:58 pm

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It's also going to be the anniversary of my birth.  Shocked
Happy birthday to me I guess.

You can also celebrate like Zach Heckler  that night and go to a church function and argue with someone?


Well it's better than going out and stealing crt computer monitors from a van.

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PostSubject: Re: Jan. 30 is the 20th anniversary of the van break-in   Tue Jan 23, 2018 10:38 pm

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Especially in Littleton at that time, now it is different. When I was there for work I spoke to so many people who were so open and kind etc....

I had a friend in HS who was bullied like me, and she TRIED so hard to fit in but everyone seemed to know that she was just trying and no matter what she wore, she didn't fit in...

The cute guy killing people is the exact thing when I saw Eric's picture that day. We are the same age (I'm in my 30's..) and I remember as clear as day coming home from school, news is on, Patrick Ireland is falling out of the window and I'm hearing 4 20 year olds wearing swatzika arm bands are ambushing a high school then they show Eric and Dylan's pictures and I was like "Eric is hot, why did he kill people" then we learn it's a theatre tech guy and a gamer... then the rest is history... sordid past of ScreamingOphelia LOL.

Well, Eric wrote in his diary that he hate how he looks, so mby that why he killed himself so brutally, unfortunately he wasn't self-confident. And I understand him, because sometimes bad response and toxic influence from other people can make you feel frustrated about yourself.

But year before massacre he had some hopes for the future.
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PostSubject: Re: Jan. 30 is the 20th anniversary of the van break-in   Tue Jan 23, 2018 10:51 pm

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Especially in Littleton at that time, now it is different. When I was there for work I spoke to so many people who were so open and kind etc....

I had a friend in HS who was bullied like me, and she TRIED so hard to fit in but everyone seemed to know that she was just trying and no matter what she wore, she didn't fit in...

The cute guy killing people is the exact thing when I saw Eric's picture that day. We are the same age (I'm in my 30's..) and I remember as clear as day coming home from school, news is on, Patrick Ireland is falling out of the window and I'm hearing 4 20 year olds wearing swatzika arm bands are ambushing a high school then they show Eric and Dylan's pictures and I was like "Eric is hot, why did he kill people" then we learn it's a theatre tech guy and a gamer... then the rest is history... sordid past of ScreamingOphelia LOL.

Well, Eric wrote in his diary that he hate how he looks, so mby that why he killed himself so brutally, unfortunately he wasn't self-confident. And I understand him, because sometimes bad response and toxic influence from other people can make you feel frustrated about yourself.

But year before massacre he had some hopes for the future.
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PostSubject: Re: Jan. 30 is the 20th anniversary of the van break-in   Wed Jan 24, 2018 7:13 am

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The story about Dylan scaring people came from Judy who said she heard it from Sue... i guess they were at a restaurant and he didn’t take his coat and sunglasses off and he was making people uncomfortable.


I just can't see Dylan as scary, much less Eric. On the outside they were seemingly normal. All the scary shit was on the inside.

But the sunglasses thing would have been very irritating to me. Dylan seemed to hide behind his shades a lot. Cool

I have to be making direct eye contact when I am talking to someone in person. It just grates on my nerves if they wont look at me. It makes me feel that I am talking at them instead of to them. Haha

I also consider it kind of disrespectful, maybe it is just the way I was raised.Smile

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PostSubject: Re: Jan. 30 is the 20th anniversary of the van break-in   Wed Jan 24, 2018 7:16 am

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Also, this interview was from earlier that day Jan 30, 1998.

Pretty weird coincidence.

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Yes!! He was so disarming and hand... sorry

Later that day, the downward spiral begins


[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] WOW you almost slipped into FanGirl mode there! Thankfully you pulled yourself back from the edge. Shocked Haha

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PostSubject: Re: Jan. 30 is the 20th anniversary of the van break-in   Wed Jan 24, 2018 8:31 am

One thing I notice about Eric is, especially compared to Dylan, his handwriting is quite disciplined. Also that comment from the teacher "Me either"...haha.
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PostSubject: Re: Jan. 30 is the 20th anniversary of the van break-in   Wed Jan 24, 2018 11:21 am

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Also, this interview was from earlier that day Jan 30, 1998.

Pretty weird coincidence.

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Yes!! He was so disarming and hand... sorry

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[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] WOW you almost slipped into FanGirl mode there! Thankfully you pulled yourself back from the edge. Shocked Haha

LOL I was on my second glass of wine! To be fair
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PostSubject: Re: Jan. 30 is the 20th anniversary of the van break-in   Wed Jan 24, 2018 11:26 am

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The story about Dylan scaring people came from Judy who said she heard it from Sue... i guess they were at a restaurant and he didn’t take his coat and sunglasses off and he was making people uncomfortable.


I just can't see Dylan as scary, much less Eric. On the outside they were seemingly normal. All the scary shit was on the inside.

But the sunglasses thing would have been very irritating to me. Dylan seemed to hide behind his shades a lot. Cool

I have to be making direct eye contact when I am talking to someone in person. It just grates on my nerves if they wont look at me. It makes me feel that I am talking at them instead of to them. Haha




I also consider it kind of disrespectful, maybe it is just the way I was raised.Smile  


I bet that's where Sue was coming from. My parents would find it very rude of me to keep my coat and sunglasses on. The only time I wore sunglasses inside was when I got a very big black eye from a baseball (I wasn't the greatest player) I mean I DID feel cool walking around with them on all day, but my eye hurt very bad.

I've always said I wouldn't find Dylan intimidating at all. In day to day life, but I'm not intimidated by the way someone dresses etc.. even back in the 90's someone who dressed differently than preppy wouldn't faze me in the slightest. I wanted to dress like Cindi Lauper when I was like 8.. LOL
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PostSubject: Re: Jan. 30 is the 20th anniversary of the van break-in   Wed Jan 24, 2018 11:32 am

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Pretty weird coincidence.

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Yes!! He was so disarming and hand... sorry

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[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] WOW you almost slipped into FanGirl mode there! Thankfully you pulled yourself back from the edge. Shocked Haha

LOL I was on my second glass of wine! To be fair

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PostSubject: Re: Jan. 30 is the 20th anniversary of the van break-in   Thu Jan 25, 2018 2:24 am

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Always thinking about the point of no return that gonna brought all those people that day to school and bound their life and deaths forever. Yeah, mby it was a van...


I think it was more than just breaking into a van because they were bored. I think it was probably a trust thing for NBK. It really solidified their friendship and trust.

I don't necessarily believe the break in its-self solidified their bond, but getting caught and the repercussions that followed likely did. That's when they realized they were in this shit together.

EVEN though Eric did try to place the blame all on Dylan. The little snitch! Haha

You have a good point.

Dylan’s “evil” karmic revenge... not only did Dylan call Eric just his good friend BUT people blame most of the massacre on Eric
And the fact Dylan was the real mastermind behind the massacre, not Eric.

Revenge indeed.
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PostSubject: Re: Jan. 30 is the 20th anniversary of the van break-in   Thu Jan 25, 2018 3:06 am

On this day twenty years ago - Sunday, January 25, 1998 - the Broncos won the Super Bowl.

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Columbine student Nate Dykeman told police he had witnessed Eric and Dylan detonating a pipe bomb in January of 1998, the same day that the Denver Broncos won the Super Bowl.

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PostSubject: Re: Jan. 30 is the 20th anniversary of the van break-in   Thu Jan 25, 2018 4:06 am

Just a fetus I was then. I can't believe it has been almost two decades.

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