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Flanders Darrel
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| Subject: What do you think Eric and Dylan's sentences would have been? Sat Feb 10, 2018 2:58 am | |
| What do you thin they would have been sentenced to as a result of their charges. I personally think Eric would have had the death penalty, and Dylan would have had life imprisonment. | |
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InsaneIntruder
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| Subject: Re: What do you think Eric and Dylan's sentences would have been? Sat Feb 10, 2018 6:51 am | |
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Flanders Darrel
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| Subject: Re: What do you think Eric and Dylan's sentences would have been? Sat Feb 10, 2018 7:03 am | |
| - InsaneIntruder wrote:
- Why not death for both?
I feel that the circumstances of the attack would have immediately ruled out Dylan as someone likely to receive the death penalty. Witnesses describe him as calmer and more loving than Eric, regardless of whatever the truth behind him was. Also, he was a minor, while Eric was an adult. Although I am certain Dylan would have been tried as an adult, sentencing a minor to death has only happened 8 times since Columbine. Furthermore, all of those times were in either Virginia, Texas, and Oklahoma, states being notorious for the death penalty. Although, given the problems Eric had, he might have been able to avoid the death sentence, Dylan certainly wouldn't have had it. Also, Dylan killed less. | |
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QuestionMark Top 10 Contributor
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| Subject: Re: What do you think Eric and Dylan's sentences would have been? Sat Feb 10, 2018 11:51 am | |
| - Flanders Darrel wrote:
- InsaneIntruder wrote:
- Why not death for both?
I feel that the circumstances of the attack would have immediately ruled out Dylan as someone likely to receive the death penalty. Witnesses describe him as calmer and more loving than Eric, regardless of whatever the truth behind him was. Also, he was a minor, while Eric was an adult. Although I am certain Dylan would have been tried as an adult, sentencing a minor to death has only happened 8 times since Columbine. Furthermore, all of those times were in either Virginia, Texas, and Oklahoma, states being notorious for the death penalty.
Although, given the problems Eric had, he might have been able to avoid the death sentence, Dylan certainly wouldn't have had it. Also, Dylan killed less. Considering the high profile nature of the crime, the only way Dylan's getting life is if he pleads guilty. Even then it's not a sure bet. _________________ "My guns are the only things that haven't stabbed me in the back." -Kip Kinkel
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Flanders Darrel
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| Subject: Re: What do you think Eric and Dylan's sentences would have been? Sat Feb 10, 2018 11:58 am | |
| - QuestionMark wrote:
- Flanders Darrel wrote:
- InsaneIntruder wrote:
- Why not death for both?
I feel that the circumstances of the attack would have immediately ruled out Dylan as someone likely to receive the death penalty. Witnesses describe him as calmer and more loving than Eric, regardless of whatever the truth behind him was. Also, he was a minor, while Eric was an adult. Although I am certain Dylan would have been tried as an adult, sentencing a minor to death has only happened 8 times since Columbine. Furthermore, all of those times were in either Virginia, Texas, and Oklahoma, states being notorious for the death penalty.
Although, given the problems Eric had, he might have been able to avoid the death sentence, Dylan certainly wouldn't have had it. Also, Dylan killed less. Considering the high profile nature of the crime, the only way Dylan's getting life is if he pleads guilty. Even then it's not a sure bet. Maybe not a "sure bet." But I would go for over 90%, easily. High profile criminals like James Holmes avoided death. Sure, he was mentally ill, but Dylan was a depressed teenager who showed genuine concern for his parents in the "goodbye" tapes. They have ways of keeping people like that out of trouble in prison. Most likely solitary confinement until a little while when they give him a makeover and send him to either a lighter segregation or general population. Always under strict supervision though. The James Holmes situation, for instance, the department of corrections handled that well after he got attacked the first time. They have ways of protecting these people. Maybe not always perfect ways, but ways. | |
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Ainjel
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| Subject: Re: What do you think Eric and Dylan's sentences would have been? Sat Feb 10, 2018 3:11 pm | |
| Until the jury listened to the library recording and heard Dylan having the time of his life killing people...then I feel the death penalty would definitely be on the table as an option for punishment for both. Or the fact is brought up that this was intended to be a bombing and the intended kill count was aiming for at least 500 people killed or injured if their bombs had worked. I feel like the jury would also have to consider the fact that they both completed a diversionary program and none of the officials involved in that program had any reason to believe that Columbine was going to happen. But considering the outcome of the James Holmes trial, they both would have likely gotten life. | |
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Krieg
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| Subject: Re: What do you think Eric and Dylan's sentences would have been? Sat Feb 10, 2018 4:17 pm | |
| - InsaneIntruder wrote:
- Why not death for both?
Eric mental illness etc etc | |
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Rebbie556
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| Subject: Re: What do you think Eric and Dylan's sentences would have been? Sat Feb 10, 2018 6:22 pm | |
| They might get for life &psychiatry | |
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QuestionMark Top 10 Contributor
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| Subject: Re: What do you think Eric and Dylan's sentences would have been? Sun Feb 11, 2018 1:06 am | |
| Everyone keeps bringing up the James Holmes case. What they're forgetting is that the jury which reached a decision on Holmes is obviously not going to be the same jury that has to give a judgement on Harris and Klebold. Add that to the fact that Holmes was demonstrably insane while Eric and Dylan were not and it becomes a lot more likely that they (or at least Eric depending on how the death penalty works in Colorado) are going to get the death penalty. _________________ "My guns are the only things that haven't stabbed me in the back." -Kip Kinkel
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spinvault
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| Subject: Re: What do you think Eric and Dylan's sentences would have been? Sun Feb 11, 2018 11:44 am | |
| I think it would have been interesting to see how the parents reacted. I am sure Tom and Sue Klebold would have gotten Dylan a lawyer immediately and pushed mental health issues. Plus, Dylan was only 17, so would he have been considered a minor or an adult. I do believe the Klebolds would have supported Dylan completely. The main question I have is with Wayne and Kathy Harris - would they support Eric or just let him face the trial and sentencing by himself. Eric was 18 so he would be considered an adult. I have no idea what Mr. and Mrs. Harris would have done. | |
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Screamingophelia Other Crimes Moderator & Top 10 Contributor
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| Subject: Re: What do you think Eric and Dylan's sentences would have been? Sun Feb 11, 2018 11:49 am | |
| I like that question. I would imagine they would want to get Erica a really good lawyer also to save face.
I also wonder if they would be tried separately or together? _________________ "And you know, you know, you know, this can be beautiful, you say you're numb inside, but I can't agree. So the world's unfair, keep it locked out there. In here it's beautiful."
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Flanders Darrel
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| Subject: Re: What do you think Eric and Dylan's sentences would have been? Sun Feb 11, 2018 11:52 am | |
| - Screamingophelia wrote:
- I like that question. I would imagine they would want to get Erica a really good lawyer also to save face.
I also wonder if they would be tried separately or together? Certainly separately for a huge case like this, the year before when they stole some stuff from a van they were even tried separately. | |
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Jea
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| Subject: Re: What do you think Eric and Dylan's sentences would have been? Sun Feb 11, 2018 12:06 pm | |
| Death penalty what else.) _________________ "I'm having an old friend for dinner." (с)The Silence of the Lambs, 1991
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spinvault
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| Subject: Re: What do you think Eric and Dylan's sentences would have been? Sun Feb 11, 2018 12:10 pm | |
| - Flanders Darrel wrote:
- Screamingophelia wrote:
- I like that question. I would imagine they would want to get Erica a really good lawyer also to save face.
I also wonder if they would be tried separately or together? Certainly separately for a huge case like this, the year before when they stole some stuff from a van they were even tried separately. If they are tried separately, I wonder if they would turn on each other and lay the blame on the other as the brains of the attack and he forced me to go through with it. It would be interesting to see what public opinion would be and if a jury would give them the same sentence. | |
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Screamingophelia Other Crimes Moderator & Top 10 Contributor
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| Subject: Re: What do you think Eric and Dylan's sentences would have been? Sun Feb 11, 2018 12:14 pm | |
| - Flanders Darrel wrote:
- Screamingophelia wrote:
- I like that question. I would imagine they would want to get Erica a really good lawyer also to save face.
I also wonder if they would be tried separately or together? Certainly separately for a huge case like this, the year before when they stole some stuff from a van they were even tried separately. They weren’t tried in a jury trial. They were placed in diversion instead. | |
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Screamingophelia Other Crimes Moderator & Top 10 Contributor
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| Subject: Re: What do you think Eric and Dylan's sentences would have been? Sun Feb 11, 2018 12:16 pm | |
| - spinvault wrote:
- Flanders Darrel wrote:
- Screamingophelia wrote:
- I like that question. I would imagine they would want to get Erica a really good lawyer also to save face.
I also wonder if they would be tried separately or together? Certainly separately for a huge case like this, the year before when they stole some stuff from a van they were even tried separately. If they are tried separately, I wonder if they would turn on each other and lay the blame on the other as the brains of the attack and he forced me to go through with it. It would be interesting to see what public opinion would be and if a jury would give them the same sentence. I have no doubt they probably would, but also I imagine their lawyers would each paint a picture of the other boy as being the mastermind. Even with the van incident, Eric said it was Dylan’s idea but Dylan said it was both of theirs. | |
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| Subject: Re: What do you think Eric and Dylan's sentences would have been? Sun Feb 11, 2018 6:40 pm | |
| - Screamingophelia wrote:
- spinvault wrote:
- Flanders Darrel wrote:
- Screamingophelia wrote:
- I like that question. I would imagine they would want to get Erica a really good lawyer also to save face.
I also wonder if they would be tried separately or together? Certainly separately for a huge case like this, the year before when they stole some stuff from a van they were even tried separately. If they are tried separately, I wonder if they would turn on each other and lay the blame on the other as the brains of the attack and he forced me to go through with it. It would be interesting to see what public opinion would be and if a jury would give them the same sentence. I have no doubt they probably would, but also I imagine their lawyers would each paint a picture of the other boy as being the mastermind.
Even with the van incident, Eric said it was Dylan’s idea but Dylan said it was both of theirs. I have little doubt that Eric would have been singing like a canary! He proved himself to be a snitch during the van break-in. At least Dylan said it was BOTH their idea. |
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Screamingophelia Other Crimes Moderator & Top 10 Contributor
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| Subject: Re: What do you think Eric and Dylan's sentences would have been? Sun Feb 11, 2018 6:44 pm | |
| - ShadowedGoddess wrote:
- Screamingophelia wrote:
- spinvault wrote:
- Flanders Darrel wrote:
- Screamingophelia wrote:
- I like that question. I would imagine they would want to get Erica a really good lawyer also to save face.
I also wonder if they would be tried separately or together? Certainly separately for a huge case like this, the year before when they stole some stuff from a van they were even tried separately. If they are tried separately, I wonder if they would turn on each other and lay the blame on the other as the brains of the attack and he forced me to go through with it. It would be interesting to see what public opinion would be and if a jury would give them the same sentence. I have no doubt they probably would, but also I imagine their lawyers would each paint a picture of the other boy as being the mastermind.
Even with the van incident, Eric said it was Dylan’s idea but Dylan said it was both of theirs. I have little doubt that Eric would have been singing like a canary! He proved himself to be a snitch during the van break-in. At least Dylan said it was BOTH their idea. Didn't he even say he felt totally uncomfortable about it LOL but in his journal he is like "I should be able to take this jerks things..' or something to that extent. | |
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Ericklebold99
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| Subject: Re: What do you think Eric and Dylan's sentences would have been? Wed Feb 14, 2018 5:57 pm | |
| Still saddens me how Eric put dylan as his best friend and dylan didn't say the same | |
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| Subject: Re: What do you think Eric and Dylan's sentences would have been? Sat Mar 03, 2018 10:20 pm | |
| With regards to the Harrises, pretty sure I read somewhere in the 11K that when police turned up to their house they already had a lawyer and told the police that they weren't to speak to Eric without the lawyer present. |
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Screamingophelia Other Crimes Moderator & Top 10 Contributor
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| Subject: Re: What do you think Eric and Dylan's sentences would have been? Sat Mar 03, 2018 10:40 pm | |
| I think the Klebolds called a lawyer for a much different reason than the Harris's.
I would LOVE to know the timeline for that morning with the Harris's URGH!
_________________ "And you know, you know, you know, this can be beautiful, you say you're numb inside, but I can't agree. So the world's unfair, keep it locked out there. In here it's beautiful."
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| Subject: Re: What do you think Eric and Dylan's sentences would have been? Sat Mar 03, 2018 11:01 pm | |
| - Flanders Darrel wrote:
- InsaneIntruder wrote:
- Why not death for both?
I feel that the circumstances of the attack would have immediately ruled out Dylan as someone likely to receive the death penalty. Witnesses describe him as calmer and more loving than Eric, regardless of whatever the truth behind him was. Also, he was a minor, while Eric was an adult. Although I am certain Dylan would have been tried as an adult, sentencing a minor to death has only happened 8 times since Columbine. Furthermore, all of those times were in either Virginia, Texas, and Oklahoma, states being notorious for the death penalty.
Although, given the problems Eric had, he might have been able to avoid the death sentence, Dylan certainly wouldn't have had it. Also, Dylan killed less. "DIE MOTHERFUCKERS". - Loving Dylan. |
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