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PostSubject: Re: Nineteen years of Columbine   Mon Mar 19, 2018 9:52 am

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I really think them holding back the tapes actually did more damage. It allowed mystique around them when its probably a cringefest.


Totally agree. Yet I STILL want to see them in all their cringy glory. Haha

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PostSubject: Re: Nineteen years of Columbine   Mon Mar 19, 2018 9:56 am

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LOL, I forgot about that part of the transcript.

If the real leak is any indication it's pretty much them acting like dorks, complaining and mocking their classmates and Dylan pointing a gun at Eric's head on accident showing his remarkable gun safety skills.

Honestly as much as I hate to admit it, the scene in I'm Not Ashamed with the boys pretending to shoot their guns in Eric's basement going "bang, bang" is probably not that far off....



Eric smooching on Arlene, and that damn candy house bit! LOL

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PostSubject: Re: Nineteen years of Columbine   Mon Mar 19, 2018 10:02 am

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LOL, I forgot about that part of the transcript.

If the real leak is any indication it's pretty much them acting like dorks, complaining and mocking their classmates and Dylan pointing a gun at Eric's head on accident showing his remarkable gun safety skills.

Honestly as much as I hate to admit it, the scene in I'm Not Ashamed with the boys pretending to shoot their guns in Eric's basement going "bang, bang" is probably not that far off....



Eric smooching on Arlene, and that damn candy house bit! LOL


I want to see it ALL!

lol!

Compromise, just release a BT sizzle reel, only highlights from the tapes.

I doubt now it will be shocking. I think Sue not wanting them released just has to do with loving Dylan and wanting to protect him and also probably the whole family too, she wanted a different image of Dylan out there. . It was years later before they released his autopsy because she was fighting that too.
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PostSubject: Re: Nineteen years of Columbine   Mon Mar 19, 2018 1:44 pm

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I really think them holding back the tapes actually did more damage. It allowed mystique around them when its probably a cringefest.

I really don't think it mattered that much. Release TBT or not there was always gonna be a mystique around Eric and Dylan. It's due to the high profile nature of the crime.

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PostSubject: Re: Nineteen years of Columbine   Mon Mar 19, 2018 7:52 pm

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I really think them holding back the tapes actually did more damage. It allowed mystique around them when its probably a cringefest.

I really don't think it mattered that much. Release TBT or not there was always gonna be a mystique around Eric and Dylan. It's due to the high profile nature of the crime.

totally agree, enough circumstances already secured E/D's "fame"... "Copycat" concerns were just smoke screens for other agendas.
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PostSubject: Re: Nineteen years of Columbine   Mon Mar 19, 2018 8:58 pm

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I really think them holding back the tapes actually did more damage. It allowed mystique around them when its probably a cringefest.

I really don't think it mattered that much. Release TBT or not there was always gonna be a mystique around Eric and Dylan. It's due to the high profile nature of the crime.

totally agree, enough circumstances already secured E/D's "fame"...  "Copycat" concerns were just smoke screens for other agendas.  

What other agendas?

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PostSubject: Re: Nineteen years of Columbine   Tue Mar 20, 2018 8:44 am

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I really think them holding back the tapes actually did more damage. It allowed mystique around them when its probably a cringefest.

I really don't think it mattered that much. Release TBT or not there was always gonna be a mystique around Eric and Dylan. It's due to the high profile nature of the crime.

totally agree, enough circumstances already secured E/D's "fame"...  "Copycat" concerns were just smoke screens for other agendas.  

What other agendas?

IDK if this is what FO2 meant but it is thought that the BT were also botched by Jeffco in some way. That perhaps Eric and Dylan mentioned something that didn't look good on Jeffco or that maybe they said something else that was trying to be hidden. So they used the copycat reasoning to try to get out of showing the tapes when really there was something underlying that they didn't want to mention

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PostSubject: Re: Nineteen years of Columbine   Tue Mar 20, 2018 8:48 am

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I really think them holding back the tapes actually did more damage. It allowed mystique around them when its probably a cringefest.

I really don't think it mattered that much. Release TBT or not there was always gonna be a mystique around Eric and Dylan. It's due to the high profile nature of the crime.

totally agree, enough circumstances already secured E/D's "fame"...  "Copycat" concerns were just smoke screens for other agendas.  

What other agendas?

IDK if this is what FO2 meant but it is thought that the BT were also botched by Jeffco in some way.  That perhaps Eric and Dylan mentioned something that didn't look good on Jeffco or that maybe they said something else that was trying to be hidden.   So they used the copycat reasoning to try to get out of showing the tapes when really there was something underlying that they didn't want to mention

This is why I am skeptical of the released BT transcripts. Jeffco proved they weren't above lying their asses off to save face, so anything they said/say is always shaded in doubt.

Whether they lied about anything else or not, they did bring the public's mistrust on themselves.

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PostSubject: Re: Nineteen years of Columbine   Tue Mar 20, 2018 8:53 am

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I really think them holding back the tapes actually did more damage. It allowed mystique around them when its probably a cringefest.

I really don't think it mattered that much. Release TBT or not there was always gonna be a mystique around Eric and Dylan. It's due to the high profile nature of the crime.

totally agree, enough circumstances already secured E/D's "fame"...  "Copycat" concerns were just smoke screens for other agendas.  

What other agendas?

IDK if this is what FO2 meant but it is thought that the BT were also botched by Jeffco in some way.  That perhaps Eric and Dylan mentioned something that didn't look good on Jeffco or that maybe they said something else that was trying to be hidden.   So they used the copycat reasoning to try to get out of showing the tapes when really there was something underlying that they didn't want to mention

This is why I am skeptical of the released BT transcripts. Jeffco proved they weren't above lying their asses off to save face, so anything they said/say is always shaded in doubt.

Whether they lied about anything else or not, they did bring the public's mistrust on themselves.

And the stigma has lasted to today and beyond. I don't know of any other force quite so famous as them

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PostSubject: Re: Nineteen years of Columbine   Tue Mar 20, 2018 8:54 am

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I really think them holding back the tapes actually did more damage. It allowed mystique around them when its probably a cringefest.

I really don't think it mattered that much. Release TBT or not there was always gonna be a mystique around Eric and Dylan. It's due to the high profile nature of the crime.

totally agree, enough circumstances already secured E/D's "fame"...  "Copycat" concerns were just smoke screens for other agendas.  

What other agendas?

IDK if this is what FO2 meant but it is thought that the BT were also botched by Jeffco in some way.  That perhaps Eric and Dylan mentioned something that didn't look good on Jeffco or that maybe they said something else that was trying to be hidden.   So they used the copycat reasoning to try to get out of showing the tapes when really there was something underlying that they didn't want to mention

This is why I am skeptical of the released BT transcripts. Jeffco proved they weren't above lying their asses off to save face, so anything they said/say is always shaded in doubt.

Whether they lied about anything else or not, they did bring the public's mistrust on themselves.

And the stigma has lasted to today and beyond.  I don't know of any other force quite so famous as them


Agreed!

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PostSubject: Re: Nineteen years of Columbine   Tue Mar 20, 2018 9:05 am

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I really think them holding back the tapes actually did more damage. It allowed mystique around them when its probably a cringefest.

I really don't think it mattered that much. Release TBT or not there was always gonna be a mystique around Eric and Dylan. It's due to the high profile nature of the crime.

totally agree, enough circumstances already secured E/D's "fame"...  "Copycat" concerns were just smoke screens for other agendas.  

What other agendas?

IDK if this is what FO2 meant but it is thought that the BT were also botched by Jeffco in some way.  That perhaps Eric and Dylan mentioned something that didn't look good on Jeffco or that maybe they said something else that was trying to be hidden.   So they used the copycat reasoning to try to get out of showing the tapes when really there was something underlying that they didn't want to mention

This is why I am skeptical of the released BT transcripts. Jeffco proved they weren't above lying their asses off to save face, so anything they said/say is always shaded in doubt.

Whether they lied about anything else or not, they did bring the public's mistrust on themselves.

And the stigma has lasted to today and beyond.  I don't know of any other force quite so famous as them


Agreed!


Also the videos that were released and the things that were released just add to both the mystique and also the relatability in someways. Makes them look like less of these criminal masterminds (snort) and more like regular kids.

I don’t believe this but I’m just Going to  throw it out there for conspiracy theory sake, what if something did happen to the boys that night of the van incident and they mentioned it and that’s a reason they were not released. I’m not talking about rape or assault of course, but something else Jeffco wants to cover up.

I feel like there would be more evidence to that though. So I’m at a  bit of a loss


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PostSubject: Re: Nineteen years of Columbine   Tue Mar 20, 2018 9:14 am

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I really think them holding back the tapes actually did more damage. It allowed mystique around them when its probably a cringefest.

I really don't think it mattered that much. Release TBT or not there was always gonna be a mystique around Eric and Dylan. It's due to the high profile nature of the crime.

totally agree, enough circumstances already secured E/D's "fame"...  "Copycat" concerns were just smoke screens for other agendas.  

What other agendas?

IDK if this is what FO2 meant but it is thought that the BT were also botched by Jeffco in some way.  That perhaps Eric and Dylan mentioned something that didn't look good on Jeffco or that maybe they said something else that was trying to be hidden.   So they used the copycat reasoning to try to get out of showing the tapes when really there was something underlying that they didn't want to mention

This is why I am skeptical of the released BT transcripts. Jeffco proved they weren't above lying their asses off to save face, so anything they said/say is always shaded in doubt.

Whether they lied about anything else or not, they did bring the public's mistrust on themselves.

And the stigma has lasted to today and beyond.  I don't know of any other force quite so famous as them


Agreed!


Also the videos that were released and the things that were released just add to both the mystique and also the relatability in someways. Makes them look like less of these criminal masterminds (snort) and more like regular kids.

I don’t believe this but I’m just Going to  throw it out there for conspiracy theory sake, what if something did happen to the boys that night of the van incident and they mentioned it and that’s a reason they were not released. I’m not talking about full-blown rape  but maybe there was brutality or something like that?

I feel like there would be more evidence to that though. So I’m at a  bit of a loss

Yea I dont believe rape but maybe? The what ifs on what they hid is endless so pretty much anything is possible.

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PostSubject: Re: Nineteen years of Columbine   Tue Mar 20, 2018 5:36 pm

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I thought the victim's families said they were accurate? IDK.

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PostSubject: Re: Nineteen years of Columbine   Tue Mar 20, 2018 6:02 pm

On this day in 1999 - a Saturday - Eric, Dylan, and 13 others had only one month to live.

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On this day in 1999 - a Saturday - Eric, Dylan, and 13 others had only one month to live.

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PostSubject: Re: Nineteen years of Columbine   Thu Mar 22, 2018 7:45 pm

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Eric Harris thought about war, fantasized about war and wrote about war. He was thrilled when he heard, one morning in philosophy class, that the United States was on the verge of bombing Yugoslavia. Rebecca Heins, who sat next to him, remembers Harris saying, "I hope we do go to war, I'll be the first one there." He wanted to be in the front lines, he said. He wanted, as he put it, to "shoot everyone," Heins recalls.

Harris said that morning that he hoped he would get drafted. But then he took direct action to improve his chances of becoming a real warrior: He tried to enlist in the Marines. He seemed a good candidate, physically trim and extremely smart. But he was not destined to storm a beach or parachute behind enemy lines in the uniform of his nation.

NATO forces began bombing Yugoslavia on Wednesday, March 24, 1999. So that would have been nineteen years ago this Saturday.

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Eric Harris thought about war, fantasized about war and wrote about war. He was thrilled when he heard, one morning in philosophy class, that the United States was on the verge of bombing Yugoslavia. Rebecca Heins, who sat next to him, remembers Harris saying, "I hope we do go to war, I'll be the first one there." He wanted to be in the front lines, he said. He wanted, as he put it, to "shoot everyone," Heins recalls.

Harris said that morning that he hoped he would get drafted. But then he took direct action to improve his chances of becoming a real warrior: He tried to enlist in the Marines. He seemed a good candidate, physically trim and extremely smart. But he was not destined to storm a beach or parachute behind enemy lines in the uniform of his nation.

NATO forces began bombing Yugoslavia on Wednesday, March 24, 1999. So that would have been nineteen years ago this Saturday.

What, Eric's chest cavity wouldn't have stopped him from getting into the Marines?

Ahhh, the Serbs. The world's Big Hated Guys before Osama bin Laden showed up. Ask any kid E&D's age nowadays if they even know what that was all about, you'd be less likely to get a "yes" than if you asked E&D themselves what the Falklands War was.
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What, Eric's chest cavity wouldn't have stopped him from getting into the Marines?

Ahhh, the Serbs.  The world's Big Hated Guys before Osama bin Laden showed up.  Ask any kid E&D's age nowadays if they even know what that was all about, you'd be less likely to get a "yes" than if you asked E&D themselves what the Falklands War was.  

Ironically, many members of the Kosovo Liberation Army - the group the Serbs were fighting, the group whose asses *we* saved - went on to fight for al-Qaeda and ISIS. (The same thing happened in Afghanistan - in the '80s, we gave money and arms to Muslim fighters so they could fight the Soviets. Years later, those same fighters ended up killing our troops.)

Ironic that the same news networks that covered NATO's war against the Serbs:


...would soon be covering Eric and Dylan's revolution of the dispossessed:



In the '90s, there were three big (and bad) events that happened on April 19 or 20: Waco in '93, Oklahoma City in '95, and Columbine in '99.

This guy ended up narrating all three of them:






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What, Eric's chest cavity wouldn't have stopped him from getting into the Marines?

Ahhh, the Serbs.  The world's Big Hated Guys before Osama bin Laden showed up.  Ask any kid E&D's age nowadays if they even know what that was all about, you'd be less likely to get a "yes" than if you asked E&D themselves what the Falklands War was.  

Ironically, many members of the Kosovo Liberation Army - the group the Serbs were fighting, the group whose asses *we* saved - went on to fight for al-Qaeda and ISIS. (The same thing happened in Afghanistan - in the '80s, we gave money and arms to Muslim fighters so they could fight the Soviets. Years later, those same fighters ended up killing our troops.)

Ironic that the same news networks that covered NATO's war against the Serbs:


...would soon be covering Eric and Dylan's revolution of the dispossessed:



In the '90s, there were three big (and bad) events that happened on April 19 or 20: Waco in '93, Oklahoma City in '95, and Columbine in '99.

This guy ended up narrating all three of them:






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PostSubject: Re: Nineteen years of Columbine   Tue Mar 27, 2018 4:09 pm

Nineteen years ago today, Dylan and his folks were at the University of Arizona. The Klebolds drove down on March 25 and spent four days there.

In 1999, March 25 was a Thursday, so it looks like they spent the whole weekend there.

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Ahhh, the Serbs.  The world's Big Hated Guys before Osama bin Laden showed up.  Ask any kid E&D's age nowadays if they even know what that was all about, you'd be less likely to get a "yes" than if you asked E&D themselves what the Falklands War was.  

Ironically, many members of the Kosovo Liberation Army - the group the Serbs were fighting, the group whose asses *we* saved - went on to fight for al-Qaeda and ISIS. (The same thing happened in Afghanistan - in the '80s, we gave money and arms to Muslim fighters so they could fight the Soviets. Years later, those same fighters ended up killing our troops.)

Ironic that the same news networks that covered NATO's war against the Serbs:

No big shock. Big guv, questionable allies that turn bad, big media, big disasters. The legacy of the 80s through now. Ronnie Lives Forever. Wonder what E&D thought of Ronnie Reagan. Oh, who cares--they were 90s kids, 90s kids had no idea of most of what happened in the 80s.

I watched that seminal first season of "24" recently and laughed at Dennis Hopper turning up as a Serbian villain. I thought, yeahhhh, this was right before 9/11...(it was filmed in 2000-01)

I know a guy whose dream is to be a NAVY SEAL and he's scrawny as hell. And eats McDonalds all the time. Dude you're not gonna be a SEAL...

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PostSubject: Re: Nineteen years of Columbine   Wed Mar 28, 2018 2:36 am

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Nineteen years ago today, Dylan and his folks were at the University of Arizona. The Klebolds drove down on March 25 and spent four days there.

In 1999, March 25 was a Thursday, so it looks like they spent the whole weekend there.

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PostSubject: Re: Nineteen years of Columbine   Mon Apr 02, 2018 4:42 am

In 1999, the first Friday in April was Good Friday - April 2.

On that night, Eric Harris wrote the last entry in his journal:

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Months have passed. Its the first Friday night in the final month. much shit has happened. Vodka has a Tec 9, we test fired all of our babies, we have 6 time clocks ready, 39 crickets, 24 pipe bombs, and the napalm is under construction. Right now I'm trying to get fucked and trying to finish off these time bombs. NBK came quick. why the fuck cant I get any? I mean, I'm nice and considerate and all that shit, but nooooo. I think I try to hard. but I kinda need to considering NBK is closing in. The amount of dramatic irony and foreshadowing is fucking amazing. Everything I see and I hear I incorporate into NBK somehow. Either bombs, clocks, guns, napalm, killing people, any and everything finds some tie to it. feels like a Goddamn movie sometimes. I wanna try to put some mines and trip bombs around this town too maybe. Get a few extra flags on the scoreboard. I hate you people for leaving me out of so many fun things. And no don't fucking say, "well thats your fault" because it isnt, you people had my phone #, and I asked and all, but no. no no no dont let the weird looking Eric KID come along, ohh fucking nooo. - 4/3/99

(Would a swaggering, über-confident ladies' man write something like that as his final statement to the world?)

Eric wrote "4/3/99" ... either he got the date wrong, or he made the entry after midnight.

Eric, Dylan, and 13 others had about two-and-a-half more weeks to live.

Also on April 2:

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Staff Sergeant Gonzales stated that he orginally contacted Harris by telephone on 4-2-99 at Harris' home telephone. Harris told Gonzales that he was planning to attend college but was interested in the Marine Corp. Gonzales asked Harris what his interests included during his intitial interview. Harris told him that he was interested in computers, soccer, and weapons. Harris said that he got A's and B's in school and that he worked at the Black Jack Pizza near the Cooper 7 theatres near S Wadsworth and Bowles Ave. Harris also told Gonzales during this initial interview that he had never done any drugs.

Gonzales set up an appointment for Harris to come into the Littleton office for futher interview and testing on 4-599 at 1300 hrs.

That appointment, made by telephone on a Friday afternoon, would have been for the following Monday.

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PostSubject: Re: Nineteen years of Columbine   Mon Apr 02, 2018 10:36 am

Really unsettling reading their confessional transcripts regards the basement tapes...sure we all joke. But they really, REALLY wanted to kill. Thank goodness I am not "crazed" gun nut hell bent on Murder. Life is too good-Sorry. I do not miss them or feel sorry for them. It was asked what sentence did they deserve if they lived-Death. They seemed intelligent enough to figure stuff out. School doesn't last forever. Talk about blind hate. Imagine if they actually made the main bombs to work. How many more people would have died.

Apart from all the victims-passed and alive, still injured. I am sorry for Sue...she seems like an awesome lady and a caring Mom. You can see how she agonizes about Dylan and how she really loved him. Split their marriage. Likely still villainised. This morbid cloud hanging over you. Selfish...really. Yeah yeah, they wanted to teach the World a Lesson. Yes Bullying. Cruz I hope gets his comeuppance as well. Not everyone who has had a bad life needs to become a scumbag-Les Brown and Eric Thomas prime examples.
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PostSubject: Re: Nineteen years of Columbine   Mon Apr 02, 2018 12:56 pm

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Eric, Dylan, and 13 others had about two-and-a-half more weeks to live.

This reminds me of something I think Eric said in TBT, something along the lines of "It's a weird feeling knowing you're going to be dead in two weeks".

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PostSubject: Re: Nineteen years of Columbine   Tue Apr 03, 2018 5:26 am

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In 1999, the first Friday in April was Good Friday - April 2.

On that night, Eric Harris wrote the last entry in his journal:

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Months have passed. Its the first Friday night in the final month. much shit has happened. Vodka has a Tec 9, we test fired all of our babies, we have 6 time clocks ready, 39 crickets, 24 pipe bombs, and the napalm is under construction. Right now I'm trying to get fucked and trying to finish off these time bombs. NBK came quick. why the fuck cant I get any? I mean, I'm nice and considerate and all that shit, but nooooo. I think I try to hard. but I kinda need to considering NBK is closing in. The amount of dramatic irony and foreshadowing is fucking amazing. Everything I see and I hear I incorporate into NBK somehow. Either bombs, clocks, guns, napalm, killing people, any and everything finds some tie to it. feels like a Goddamn movie sometimes. I wanna try to put some mines and trip bombs around this town too maybe. Get a few extra flags on the scoreboard. I hate you people for leaving me out of so many fun things. And no don't fucking say, "well thats your fault" because it isnt, you people had my phone #, and I asked and all, but no. no no no dont let the weird looking Eric KID come along, ohh fucking nooo. - 4/3/99

(Would a swaggering, über-confident ladies' man write something like that as his final statement to the world?)

Eric wrote "4/3/99" ... either he got the date wrong, or he made the entry after midnight.

I never noticed that before. Damn Eric, stop trying to confuse us...
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PostSubject: Re: Nineteen years of Columbine   Thu Apr 05, 2018 4:22 am

On Monday, April 5, 1999, Eric Harris met with the Marine recruiter:

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Gonzales set up an appointment for Harris to come into the Littleton office for futher interview and testing on 4-599 at 1300 hrs. Gonzales said that Harris did keep this appointment and showed up driving a Toyota or Nissan with a "Rammstein" sticker on the rear window. Harris was dresssed in black combat boots, black trousers and a black t shirt with the word, "Rammstein" on the front. Gonzales recognized this as a German rock group. Harris took the initial screening test given to all recruits and scored a 46. According to Gonzales this is an average score. During an interview following the test to determine his areas of interest, Harris was given several tags which were labeled with different attributes. Harris chose three tags which were labeled physical fitness, leadership and self reliance, and sefl discipline and self direction. Harris indicated that he was interested in the infantry and was particularly interested in the types of weapons, training and use of demolitions. At the conclusion of the interview, Harris wanted to think about enlisting and wanted to talk to his parents about the decision.

On this date, he had two weeks and one day to live.

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PostSubject: Re: Nineteen years of Columbine   Thu Apr 05, 2018 8:57 am

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On Monday, April 5, 1999, Eric Harris met with the Marine recruiter:

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Gonzales set up an appointment for Harris to come into the Littleton office for futher interview and testing on 4-599 at 1300 hrs. Gonzales said that Harris did keep this appointment and showed up driving a Toyota or Nissan with a "Rammstein" sticker on the rear window. Harris was dresssed in black combat boots, black trousers and a black t shirt with the word, "Rammstein" on the front. Gonzales recognized this as a German rock group. Harris took the initial screening test given to all recruits and scored a 46. According to Gonzales this is an average score. During an interview following the test to determine his areas of interest, Harris was given several tags which were labeled with different attributes. Harris chose three tags which were labeled physical fitness, leadership and self reliance, and sefl discipline and self direction. Harris indicated that he was interested in the infantry and was particularly interested in the types of weapons, training and use of demolitions. At the conclusion of the interview, Harris wanted to think about enlisting and wanted to talk to his parents about the decision.

On this date, he had two weeks and one day to live.

Interesting. I knew he met with the recruiter, but I didn't know it was this soon before the shooting. Also Dylan's college visit in March. It seems like in the weeks before their deaths they were both sort of fantasizing about the adulthood they knew they wouldn't get to experience. I get why they played it vanilla and stuck with their usual routine-there was nothing worth the risk of getting caught and ruining their "Destiny". If I knew I was going to die in a few weeks, I would be doing as much crazy shit as I could get away with just for the hell of it.
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PostSubject: Re: Nineteen years of Columbine   Fri Apr 06, 2018 5:11 pm

On Tuesday, April 6, 1999, did Eric and Dylan buy some propane tanks at Albertson's? Maybe.

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h) Albertson's video of 4-6-99 where two young men were noticed purchasing a large number of propane tanks. No video available.

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PostSubject: Re: Nineteen years of Columbine   Thu Apr 12, 2018 12:17 am

On the morning of Monday, April 12, 1999, Wayne Harris flew to Duluth:
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CN 3493 Yahoo Maps & "Mon 0630" Wayne Harris' flight from Centennial Airport to Duluth on 4-12-99 @ 6:30 am

Eric, Dylan, and 13 others had little more than a week to live.

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