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PostSubject: Nikolas Cruz's school shooting case goes to grand jury next week   Sun Mar 04, 2018 4:30 pm

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PostSubject: Re: Nikolas Cruz's school shooting case goes to grand jury next week   Sun Mar 04, 2018 4:34 pm

Florida school shooter Nikolas Cruz hired a lawyer to try to get his hands on a reported $800,000 inheritance two months before his alleged killing spree

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PostSubject: Re: Nikolas Cruz's school shooting case goes to grand jury next week   Sun Mar 04, 2018 4:36 pm

Could he still get the death penalty if he pleads guilty?
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PostSubject: Re: Nikolas Cruz's school shooting case goes to grand jury next week   Mon Mar 05, 2018 1:01 am

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Could he still get the death penalty if he pleads guilty?

I find it likely. He did kill 17 people after all.

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PostSubject: Re: Nikolas Cruz's school shooting case goes to grand jury next week   Mon Mar 05, 2018 12:50 pm

More than likely he will plea deal where if he pleads guilty the death penalty will be removed.
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PostSubject: Re: Nikolas Cruz's school shooting case goes to grand jury next week   Mon Mar 05, 2018 4:07 pm

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plea deal
What's in it for the prosecution?

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PostSubject: Re: Nikolas Cruz's school shooting case goes to grand jury next week   Mon Mar 05, 2018 4:46 pm

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plea deal
What's in it for the prosecution?
The state wouldn't have to cover the costs of a trial so that might be an incentive. I'm not sure if witnesses would be required to testify since they have forensic evidence and they even have video of Cruz in the school but it would still probably be a relief for the families to have this over with as quickly as possible. There's also the fact that they might not want to give the media any excuses to continue covering Nikolas and his life story, hoping to deter any fame-seeking copycats. You've probably seen the coverage of Breivik and Holmes on trial and it definitely gives them more time in the spotlight.

It's funny because when Holmes went to court with a shaved head, looking out of his mind, it apparently turned off some of the Tumblr Holmies from their obsession. I read this article a little while ago.
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At Holmes’ next public hearing, one Holmie headed to the courthouse to see him with her own eyes, and returned with a verdict: “He is not attractive at all,” she wrote. “I did see him do that wide-eyed look a few times. It’s not as cute in person, though … That was not the same person we’ve been swooning over in his cute little science presentation and how sad and pitiful he looked in his first courtroom appearance.”
Nope. It was definitely the same person!
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PostSubject: Re: Nikolas Cruz's school shooting case goes to grand jury next week   Mon Mar 05, 2018 4:56 pm

Yea the “bad assery” goes away pretty quickly when reality hits.

I think if Eric was alive fangirls would be very disappointed in who Eric actually was.
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PostSubject: Re: Nikolas Cruz's school shooting case goes to grand jury next week   Mon Mar 05, 2018 5:20 pm

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Yea the “bad assery” goes away pretty quickly when reality hits.

I think if Eric was alive  fangirls would be very disappointed in who Eric actually was.


I think this would be true of most fan-girls in general. When faced with the actual person their little made up fantasies would crumble.

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PostSubject: Re: Nikolas Cruz's school shooting case goes to grand jury next week   Mon Mar 05, 2018 8:34 pm

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Yea the “bad assery” goes away pretty quickly when reality hits.

I think if Eric was alive  fangirls would be very disappointed in who Eric actually was.


I think this would be true of most fan-girls in general. When faced with the actual person their little made up fantasies would crumble.

Not in the case of Richard Ramirez. People can be rather strange.

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PostSubject: Re: Nikolas Cruz's school shooting case goes to grand jury next week   Mon Mar 05, 2018 8:59 pm

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Yea the “bad assery” goes away pretty quickly when reality hits.

I think if Eric was alive  fangirls would be very disappointed in who Eric actually was.


I think this would be true of most fan-girls in general. When faced with the actual person their little made up fantasies would crumble.

Not in the case of Richard Ramirez. People can be rather strange.

Richard Ramirez and Ted Bundy female fans intrigue and horrify me... they raped and tortured women. I am reading a Stranger Beside Me and it is fascinating. Richard Ramirez seems like he didn't hide his scariness but Ted Bundy did. My aunt claims she encountered Ted Bundy in Florida. She did have long brown hair parted down the middle back then...

Yet there's me who tries to explain why Eric and Dylan are TOTALLY different from someone like Adam Lanza and they can just shut their mouths... so maybe I'm weird too?
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PostSubject: Re: Nikolas Cruz's school shooting case goes to grand jury next week   Tue Mar 06, 2018 7:02 am

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Yea the “bad assery” goes away pretty quickly when reality hits.

I think if Eric was alive  fangirls would be very disappointed in who Eric actually was.


I think this would be true of most fan-girls in general. When faced with the actual person their little made up fantasies would crumble.

Not in the case of Richard Ramirez. People can be rather strange.

Indeed very strange. One only has to go on Tumblr to see just how strange some can be. Suspect Shocked Haha

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PostSubject: Re: Nikolas Cruz's school shooting case goes to grand jury next week   Tue Mar 06, 2018 12:46 pm

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Indeed very strange. One only has to go on Tumblr to see just how strange some can be. Suspect Shocked Haha

The horrible part is that the murderer fandoms aren't even the worst Tumblr has to offer.

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PostSubject: Re: Nikolas Cruz's school shooting case goes to grand jury next week   Tue Mar 06, 2018 12:49 pm

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Indeed very strange. One only has to go on Tumblr to see just how strange some can be. Suspect Shocked Haha

The horrible part is that the murderer fandoms aren't even the worst Tumblr has to offer.


STOP IT! You will trigger my nightmares! Haha But I agree. There are some truly sick, twisted people on there. Shocked

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PostSubject: Re: Nikolas Cruz's school shooting case goes to grand jury next week   Tue Mar 06, 2018 12:59 pm

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Indeed very strange. One only has to go on Tumblr to see just how strange some can be. Suspect Shocked Haha

The horrible part is that the murderer fandoms aren't even the worst Tumblr has to offer.


STOP IT! You will trigger my nightmares! Haha But I agree. There are some truly sick, twisted people on there. Shocked

There’s a whole YouTube channel that has videos about the different sections of that site!

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PostSubject: Re: Nikolas Cruz's school shooting case goes to grand jury next week   Tue Mar 06, 2018 1:40 pm

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Yea the “bad assery” goes away pretty quickly when reality hits.

I think if Eric was alive  fangirls would be very disappointed in who Eric actually was.


I think this would be true of most fan-girls in general. When faced with the actual person their little made up fantasies would crumble.

Not in the case of Richard Ramirez. People can be rather strange.

Richard Ramirez and Ted Bundy female fans intrigue and horrify me... they raped and tortured women. I am reading a Stranger Beside Me and it is fascinating. Richard Ramirez seems like he didn't hide his scariness but Ted Bundy did. My aunt claims she encountered Ted Bundy in Florida. She did have long brown hair parted down the middle back then...

Yet there's me who tries to explain why Eric and Dylan are TOTALLY different from someone like Adam Lanza and they can just shut their mouths... so maybe I'm weird too?

They're making a new Ted Bundy movie, starring Zac Efron:
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PostSubject: Re: Nikolas Cruz's school shooting case goes to grand jury next week   Wed Mar 07, 2018 2:12 pm

Nikolas Cruz indicted on 34 counts, including premeditated murder

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PostSubject: Re: Nikolas Cruz's school shooting case goes to grand jury next week   Tue Mar 13, 2018 1:56 pm

Prosecutors will seek death penalty in Parkland school massacre

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PostSubject: Re: Nikolas Cruz's school shooting case goes to grand jury next week   Tue Mar 13, 2018 2:00 pm

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I actually thought they would let him plead guilty and go for life in prison. scratch

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PostSubject: Re: Nikolas Cruz's school shooting case goes to grand jury next week   Tue Mar 13, 2018 7:45 pm

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I actually thought they would let him plead guilty and go for life in prison.  scratch

I didn't. They got no reason to go for the plea deal and 17 reasons to sentence him to death.

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PostSubject: Re: Nikolas Cruz's school shooting case goes to grand jury next week   Wed Mar 14, 2018 6:29 am

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I actually thought they would let him plead guilty and go for life in prison.  scratch

I didn't. They got no reason to go for the plea deal and 17 reasons to sentence him to death.


Very true.

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PostSubject: Re: Nikolas Cruz's school shooting case goes to grand jury next week   Wed Mar 14, 2018 11:28 am

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Nikolas Cruz is expected to appear in court Wednesday, where he will be formally arraigned on first-degree murder and attempted murder charges.

"Death by injection would be too easy in my eyes," Andrew Pollack told Local 10 News. "I'd rather him rot in prison the rest of his life."

Pollack is the father of Meadow Pollack, who was among the 14 students killed in the school massacre.

"If I was able to dictate the method of death, then I would be for the death penalty," Andrew Pollack said.

Cruz's defense attorneys previously said their client would plead guilty if prosecutors did not seek the death penalty. The action by prosecutors Tuesday does not necessarily mean a plea deal will not be reached.

The only other penalty option for Cruz is life in prison without the possibility of parole.

Cruz now "stands mute" to the charges against him.





I still think this will end in a plea deal for life in prison.
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PostSubject: Re: Nikolas Cruz's school shooting case goes to grand jury next week   Wed Mar 14, 2018 12:15 pm

Rot in the prison? Oh please! I always find this funny when someone says that prison is worst than a death. People can adapt to any situation.
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PostSubject: Re: Nikolas Cruz's school shooting case goes to grand jury next week   Wed Mar 14, 2018 4:24 pm

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A couple of pics of Cruz from his court appearance today. This was mainly discussing his finances, if/when he would have access to any money, etc. As they are trying to determine if he should pay for his own defense.  Although nothing major was decided. Another court date was set for sometime in April.

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PostSubject: Re: Nikolas Cruz's school shooting case goes to grand jury next week   Wed Mar 14, 2018 6:15 pm

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Rot in the prison? Oh please! I always find this funny when someone says that prison is worst than a death. People can adapt to any situation.
For example, Kip Kinkel looks pretty okay:

Not everyone can adapt well or even at all. The notoriety surrounding Cruz's case means that if he goes to prison he's either going to be put in solitary confinement most of his life or be released into the general population where he's going to get beaten, possibly to death.

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PostSubject: Re: Nikolas Cruz's school shooting case goes to grand jury next week   Thu Mar 15, 2018 9:03 am

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The former student charged with killing 17 people at a Florida high school last month refused to announce a plea on Wednesday so a judge entered a not guilty plea on his behalf.

Assistant Public Defender Melisa McNeill repeated that Nikolas Cruz would plead guilty if prosecutors waived the death penalty, which they refused to do.

Circuit Judge Elizabeth Scherer entered the not guilty pleas on Cruz's behalf after he remained silent.

"A plea of not guilty shall be entered on the defendant's behalf on all 34 counts of the indictment," Scherer said.

Shackled and wearing red jail clothes, Cruz sat in the jury box with his head bowed and said nothing. At least 20 Broward Sheriff's Office deputies ringed the courtroom in a heavy show of security.

Much of the hearing concerned whether Cruz has enough assets to pay a private lawyer rather than be represented at taxpayer expense by the public defender. McNeill told Scherer that Cruz may have as much as $37,000 combined in a bank account and life insurance proceeds from his mother's death last November. Cruz also has 24 shares of Microsoft stock and some other assets, McNeill said.

"What this information means in terms of his net worth, I don't know," McNeill said. ""The court can make a determination once we do a more thorough review."

But she added: "I don't think there's a private attorney in Florida that would take a 17-count first degree murder case" for $37,000.

Scherer set an April 11 hearing on the assets issue.

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PostSubject: Re: Nikolas Cruz's school shooting case goes to grand jury next week   Fri Mar 16, 2018 9:47 am

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Rot in the prison? Oh please! I always find this funny when someone says that prison is worst than a death. People can adapt to any situation.
For example, Kip Kinkel looks pretty okay:

Not everyone can adapt well or even at all. The notoriety surrounding Cruz's case means that if he goes to prison he's either going to be put in solitary confinement most of his life or be released into the general population where he's going to get beaten, possibly to death.
Well, I'm still think the life is better than DEATH. People can live in very horrible conditions and still adapt. I've researched about it a lot. And yeah, execution is more cheaper )

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PostSubject: Re: Nikolas Cruz's school shooting case goes to grand jury next week   Fri Mar 16, 2018 1:54 pm

Has anyone stumbled across the victims autopsy reports or know if they have even been released? scratch

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PostSubject: Re: Nikolas Cruz's school shooting case goes to grand jury next week   Fri Mar 16, 2018 3:07 pm

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Well, I'm still think the life is better than DEATH.

I guess it depends on the life you live.

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PostSubject: Re: Nikolas Cruz's school shooting case goes to grand jury next week   Sun Mar 18, 2018 2:21 pm

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Highlights from article-

If prosecutors are considering the death penalty, state law requires them to say so within 45 days of a defendant’s arraignment. And as Satz said a week after the shooting: “This certainly is the type of case the death penalty was designed for.

On that, you will get no argument from Finkelstein, whose office is representing Cruz, at least until a court determines whether his inherited assets disqualify him from being represented by a taxpayer-supported lawyer.

Finkelstein pulls no punches on Cruz. He says his client is guilty of “the worst criminal act that has ever occurred in Broward County. What 9/11 was to America, this will be to Broward. Nothing comes close.”

Within days of the massacre, Finkelstein surprised the nation by announcing his client would plead guilty in return for taking the death penalty off the table.

“You’re never going to hear us say he’s not guilty,” Finkelstein told us. “But we can’t walk in and say “guilty,” because the next thing you know, he’s executed. It would be malpractice to plead guilty. But we’re not going to insult people’s intelligence and say he’s not guilty.”

It likely would take three years to get to trial, the first step in a journey that would cost many millions of dollars. Satz’s office has requested an extra $5 million to prosecute the case, Finkelstein says. His office has requested a couple of million dollars.

Finkelstein fears the trial would tear our community apart. Rather than working together to ensure this never happens again, he expects finger-pointing to heighten between the Broward Sheriff’s Office, Broward County Public Schools, Henderson Behavioral Health and the state and federal governments.

After months of emotional testimony and horrific images, he says the jury would find Cruz guilty. But the defense team would have planted seeds in the jurors’ minds that although their client is responsible for his acts, the state lacks clean hands to kill him, having ignored every opportunity to help him.

“When it comes time, human beings take very seriously the question of life and death,” Finkelstein says. “And in this case, it’s going to be a very difficult situation because while this is as horrible a crime as you could possibly commit, on the other side, why did nobody do anything?”

Even if the jury unanimously votes for death, Finkelstein says the appeals process could last 15 or more years. “This case will not be put to bed until someone who’s not born yet graduates from Stoneman Douglas High School.”

“What I’ve seen in 40 years, when families do walk this path, they become hollow bodies, hollow eyes, shuffling in and out of court, linked to the very person who destroyed their lives. When they walk this path, it has not been my experience that closure is at the end of it.

“Whether that’s better for the victims’ families, or the other path, to put him away for ever and ever, and let them begin to pick up the pieces and build some kind of future. It’s a decision that’s very heavy, that only the victims’ families can answer.”






This was a super long article, but it was filled with a lot of useful info on what would likely happen IF this went to trail. The case would take several years and drag on forever.

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My heart has been so badly broken and mended again. Stronger than ever because of its dreadful wounds that I thought it could never break again. But at the sight of his face, at the knowledge that he was taking his leave forever, beyond death, it shattered.
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