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PostSubject: Surprising reason behind Sandy Hook shooting   Sat Apr 21, 2018 7:50 pm

So I've been reading my way through Murder In English and discovered the writings left behind by Lanza indicate there was a peodaphilic tendency to the killings at Sandy Hook. I'm still new to this group but will try to post a screen shot to share what I read. If you would like more pages let me know.

I never heard THAT in the news coverage...
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PostSubject: Re: Surprising reason behind Sandy Hook shooting   Sat Apr 21, 2018 7:58 pm

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PostSubject: Re: Surprising reason behind Sandy Hook shooting   Sat Apr 21, 2018 7:58 pm

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PostSubject: Re: Surprising reason behind Sandy Hook shooting   Sat Apr 21, 2018 8:01 pm

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PostSubject: Re: Surprising reason behind Sandy Hook shooting   Sun Apr 22, 2018 1:13 am

Considering his obsession with mass murder, chances are he choose kids since they're the easiest to kill. I don't buy the pedophilia link. Just because he talks about pedophilia, that doesn't make him a pedophile.

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His defense of pedophilia is quite confronting. It's disturbing to think of pedophilia as anything other than horrid. But he makes a valid point. If we grew up in a society where (voluntary) pedophilia had social support, then we wouldn't see it as evil. This might sound circular, but it's conceivable if we consider how attitudes have changed concerning premarital sex or homosexuality, which he makes reference to. Human morality isn't concrete.

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Children would not be “scarred” by their voluntary sexual experiences any more than adults
in typical sexual relationships would be “scarred” unless their society shamed them into believing
that they should feel guilty

Another valid point. The way we respond to experiences, whether positively or negatively, has much to do with our worldview. So in the aforementioned hypothetical society, the people we would call victims today would not consider themselves victims. Which is crazy to think about.

So I'm not surprised that he has been labelled a pedophile. It is easier to dismiss someone as crazy, or in this case as a pedophile, than address their ideas.
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PostSubject: Re: Surprising reason behind Sandy Hook shooting   Sun Apr 22, 2018 1:24 am

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Just because he talks about pedophilia, that doesn't make him a pedophile. 

Yes I'm sure the fact that he killed twenty kids and was also interested in the subject of pedophilia was a total coincidence.  Rolling Eyes

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PostSubject: Re: Surprising reason behind Sandy Hook shooting   Sun Apr 22, 2018 2:19 am

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Just because he talks about pedophilia, that doesn't make him a pedophile. 

Yes I'm sure the fact that he killed twenty kids and was also interested in the subject of pedophilia was a total coincidence.  Rolling Eyes

Maybe it wasn't a total coincidence, at the end of the day this is just speculation. I take Lanza at his word that he wasn't a pedophile. Looking at his photos he appears asexual. Perhaps I'm too naive.

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Read the section titled 'Why Kill Children?'. Pedophilia may have played a part, but I don't believe so. To me the most rational explanation is that he went after targets that were more likely to succumb to injury. My personal headcanon is that he wanted to combine the two biggest shootings of 1996, the Dunblane Massacre and the Port Arthur Massacre, shootings which also had the biggest influence on gun control in their respective countries. He shot elementary school children like Thomas Hamilton and used an AR-15 like Martin Bryant.
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PostSubject: Re: Surprising reason behind Sandy Hook shooting   Sun Apr 22, 2018 3:00 am

Maybe he also believed he was putting all the kids out of there misery by Shooting them.
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PostSubject: Re: Surprising reason behind Sandy Hook shooting   Sun Apr 22, 2018 3:29 am

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Maybe he also believed  he was putting all the kids out of there misery by Shooting them.

Something I'm more inclined to believe than the pedophilia narrative, considering that he was against kids being indoctrinated by society.
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PostSubject: Re: Surprising reason behind Sandy Hook shooting   Sun Apr 22, 2018 6:01 am

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Maybe he also believed  he was putting all the kids out of there misery by Shooting them.







Hmmmmmm I don't believe in the "shooting kids to free them from the evil of society".Simply because it wasnt just "mercy killing".While he killed them he shouted offensive shit at them and tortured them psychologically by shouting things at them.

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PostSubject: Re: Surprising reason behind Sandy Hook shooting   Sun Apr 22, 2018 9:34 am

Well he was interested in Charles Carl Roberts.
Said we were brainwashed from birth and loved chimp society.
Also had intense paranoia.
Maybe he done something and was scared it would come out so he did that.
Makes sense if you connect the 3.
Although i may be wrong i think its worth discussing.
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PostSubject: Re: Surprising reason behind Sandy Hook shooting   Sun Apr 22, 2018 12:49 pm

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Looking at his photos he appears asexual. 

I think [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] would know more then me but IIRC Lanza had discussed homosexual fantasies with people he played video games with online and had mentioned on the old forum that his sexual urges came in late due to the fact that he was underweight. 

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To me the most rational explanation is that he went after targets that were more likely to succumb to injury.

I think the primary reason Lanza did it was to get as high of a bodycount as possible, so here I agree with you, but I also think that pedophilia played some part in his target selection. It just seems way too suspicious to me that a person who talked about pedophilia and clearly had strong opinions on the subject would choose children as his choice of target to murder.

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PostSubject: Re: Surprising reason behind Sandy Hook shooting   Sun Apr 22, 2018 1:03 pm

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PostSubject: Re: Surprising reason behind Sandy Hook shooting   Sun Apr 22, 2018 1:03 pm

Here are the other titles to Lanza's writings.
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PostSubject: Re: Surprising reason behind Sandy Hook shooting   Sun Apr 22, 2018 1:14 pm

The author also discusses Charles Robert IV who killed girls at the Amish school. He had peodaphilic desires and admitted them to his wife as the reason behind his actions at the school. He ended up killing everyone and himself when the police arrived too quickly for him to succeed in his desires to rape the girls. The police found lubricant along the items he brought to the school.
It's thought that Lanza committed the shootings as a way to escape his own conflict of interest in paedophilia, by killing what he reasoned he could never have. He probably shoukd have been committed into psychiatric care long before Sandy Hook occurred. He seems to have suffered a great deal for a long time.

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PostSubject: Re: Surprising reason behind Sandy Hook shooting   Tue Apr 24, 2018 1:08 am

That literally gave no evidence at all though lmfao
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PostSubject: Re: Surprising reason behind Sandy Hook shooting   Tue Apr 24, 2018 1:17 am

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Considering his obsession with mass murder, chances are he choose kids since they're the easiest to kill. I don't buy the pedophilia link. Just because he talks about pedophilia, that doesn't make him a pedophile.
exactly. theres even people who genuinely believe he castrated himself simply because he left a message in which it was so obvious he was trolling, said something along the lines of "I castrated myself when I was 15 to rebel against society" could it be possible it was literal, yeah, but considering the context of the way he said it, its kinda obvious which is more likely...especially since he said it in response in an online message board to a post that had nothing to do with what he said. But yeah. because Adam did what he did and him ever discussing pedophilia will mean people will take it as he's a pedophile. Theres even a guy who straight up said that it being a coincidence is impossible. Quite frankly I think them thinking that's the motive is a fucking joke.

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His defense of pedophilia is quite confronting. It's disturbing to think of pedophilia as anything other than horrid. But he makes a valid point. If we grew up in a society where (voluntary) pedophilia had social support, then we wouldn't see it as evil. This might sound circular, but it's conceivable if we consider how attitudes have changed concerning premarital sex or homosexuality, which he makes reference to. Human morality isn't concrete.

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Children would not be “scarred” by their voluntary sexual experiences any more than adults
in typical sexual relationships would be “scarred” unless their society shamed them into believing
that they should feel guilty

Another valid point. The way we respond to experiences, whether positively or negatively, has much to do with our worldview. So in the aforementioned hypothetical society, the people we would call victims today would not consider themselves victims. Which is crazy to think about.

So I'm not surprised that he has been labelled a pedophile. It is easier to dismiss someone as crazy, or in this case as a pedophile, than address their ideas.
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