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PostSubject: What did this mean?   Sun Jun 10, 2018 4:20 pm

According to Lisa Kreutz, She heard one of the shooters say "Are you still with me?" "We’re still going to do this, right?"

I wonder who said and why?
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PostSubject: Re: What did this mean?   Sun Jun 10, 2018 7:01 pm

I think the general consensus suggests it was Eric saying this to Dylan.

Maybe without the edge of psychosis that Eric had, Dylan started to get a bit traumatized by all of the killing around him and started showing signs. After all, Eric was responsible almost entirely (or had a hand in) eleven of the thirteen deaths. Dylan didn't "contribute" as much.
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PostSubject: Re: What did this mean?   Mon Jun 11, 2018 8:27 am

There has indeed been a lot speculation on this. But honestly we still don't know for a fact who said it.

I think it depends on where you are on the spectrum of believing Eric was the mastermind, and Dylan the follower. Most who think Eric had said this to Dylan, probably also think he was the leader.

I wish we knew who had really said it. I do think if we could pinpoint whether E or D had said this then it might shed a little more light on the dynamic between them that day.
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PostSubject: Re: What did this mean?   Mon Jun 11, 2018 10:07 am

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There has indeed been a lot speculation on this. But honestly we still don't know for a fact who said it.

I think it depends on where you are on the spectrum of believing Eric was the mastermind, and Dylan the follower. Most who think Eric had said this to Dylan, probably also think he was the leader.

I wish we knew who had really said it. I do think if we could pinpoint whether E or D had said this then it might shed a little more light on the dynamic between them that day.

I always forget if it was the first or second time entering the library

First time I think it was Eric to Dylan. Regarding killing which is why Dylan started whooping it up and acting by like a psychotic clown...

Second I think it was Dylan to Eric regarding suicide
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PostSubject: Re: What did this mean?   Mon Jun 11, 2018 10:14 am

@Screamingophelia wrote:
ShadowedGoddess wrote:
There has indeed been a lot speculation on this. But honestly we still don't know for a fact who said it.

I think it depends on where you are on the spectrum of believing Eric was the mastermind, and Dylan the follower. Most who think Eric had said this to Dylan, probably also think he was the leader.

I wish we knew who had really said it. I do think if we could pinpoint whether E or D had said this then it might shed a little more light on the dynamic between them that day.

I always forget if it was the first or second time entering the library

First time I think it was Eric to Dylan. Regarding killing which is why Dylan started whooping it up and acting by like a psychotic clown...

Second I think it was Dylan to Eric regarding suicide


Either way if we could for sure determine who said it and at what time, it would answer a few questions in my mind at least. Unfortunately its just one of those things that has a toss up answer, as it could have been said by either one for different reasons.
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PostSubject: Re: What did this mean?   Mon Jun 11, 2018 11:43 am

According to Kreutz she heard one of them say it as they entered the library the first time.
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PostSubject: Re: What did this mean?   Mon Jun 11, 2018 11:47 am

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According to Kreutz she heard one of them say it as they entered the library the first time.

Thank you!!!
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PostSubject: Re: What did this mean?   Mon Jun 11, 2018 3:12 pm

ShadowedGoddess wrote:
There has indeed been a lot speculation on this. But honestly we still don't know for a fact who said it.

Or if it really was said for that matter. If only one person heard this alleged exchange I'm already predisposed to not believing it.

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PostSubject: Re: What did this mean?   Tue Jun 12, 2018 3:15 pm

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ShadowedGoddess wrote:
There has indeed been a lot speculation on this. But honestly we still don't know for a fact who said it.

Or if it really was said for that matter. If only one person heard this alleged exchange I'm already predisposed to not believing it.
Yeah, that's the problem with eyewitness accounts, you just can't be sure if they're true or not. Especially if it's a situation full of chaos and panic like that. Lisa could easily have mistaken the voices of the shooters with those of other students hiding in the library. scratch
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