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PostSubject: 2003 depositions with the shooters' parents to be released in 2027   Mon Jul 09, 2018 11:15 pm

Depositions are like interviews conducted to obtain information in preparation for a trial,
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"The depositions of the parents of Columbine killers Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold will be kept under seal in the National Archives for 20 years, a federal judge ruled Monday. No one, including violence prevention experts, will be able to see them until they are unsealed, U.S. District Judge Lewis Babcock ruled. They will be kept permanently in the National Archives, where they are considered to be of historical value. “I am mindful that there is a legitimate public interest in these materials so that similar tragedies may hopefully be prevented in the future,” Babcock said. “I conclude, however, that the balance of interests still strikes in favor of maintaining strict confidentiality.”

The depositions of the parents took place in 2003 in connection with a lawsuit filed by the families of five slain Columbine High School students.

Brian Rohrbough, the father of slain student Daniel Rohrbough, said he was angered by the ruling. Rohrbough, who watched as attorneys interviewed the parents during the deposition sessions, said there is nothing in them that would cause any harm. Instead, their release could prevent further school shootings, he said. Rohrbough is under court order not to divulge details. “There is no rational reason to lock them up,” Rohrbough said. “It’s just the idea that it would be OK in 20 years, and can’t be OK today.” He said he is considering appealing Babcock’s ruling.

Colorado Attorney General John Suthers, who had argued that a nationally known violence prevention expert should examine the depositions, had mixed feelings about the ruling. “We are pleased they are going to be kept on file and not destroyed,” said Nate Strauch, a spokesman for the Colorado Attorney General’s Office. “At the same time, we are disappointed that the judge said it isn’t in the best interests to allow Del Elliott to look at the records and learn from them.”

Suthers had said that Elliott, director of the University of Colorado’s Center for the Study and Prevention of Violence, should see the depositions. Elliott is studying the Columbine shootings, focusing on Harris and Klebold. “It is important to determine if there were any significant or unusual events, experiences or conditions in Eric’s or Dylan’s early childhood that might predispose them to later violence,” Elliott wrote in an affidavit submitted to Babcock.

The federal judge said he was concerned that the release of detailed information about the events of April 20, 1999 would lead to copycat shootings.

But Judy Brown, who along with her husband Randy, tried to warn Jefferson County officials about Eric Harris’ violent tendencies before the massacre, said she didn’t buy Babcock’s reasoning. “I don’t understand why they have to remain sealed,” Brown said. “The copycat reasoning doesn’t apply to the depositions.”"

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PostSubject: Re: 2003 depositions with the shooters' parents to be released in 2027   Tue Jul 10, 2018 8:42 am

I eagerly await the release of the depositions. Even if nothing new comes from them. I just want to hear Wayne and Kathy Harris finally speak.

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PostSubject: Re: 2003 depositions with the shooters' parents to be released in 2027   Tue Jul 10, 2018 9:18 am

I know most families wanted them released right away. It seems odd that they are being held so long.



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PostSubject: Re: 2003 depositions with the shooters' parents to be released in 2027   Tue Jul 10, 2018 9:23 am

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I know most families wanted them released right away. It seems odd that they are being held so long.




Exactly!

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PostSubject: Re: 2003 depositions with the shooters' parents to be released in 2027   Tue Jul 10, 2018 9:46 am

Seems they want to hold onto this one last thing for as long as they can. I did hear rumors of them extending the release but not sure how true that is

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PostSubject: Re: 2003 depositions with the shooters' parents to be released in 2027   Tue Jul 10, 2018 10:17 am

The longer they wait it looks like they’re trying to cover something up.

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PostSubject: Re: 2003 depositions with the shooters' parents to be released in 2027   Tue Jul 10, 2018 12:26 pm

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Seems they want to hold onto this one last thing for as long as they can.  I did hear rumors of them extending the release but not sure how true that is



I truly hope that was just a unfounded rumor. Like keeping it sealed for this long hasn't been enough!?  Mad

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PostSubject: Re: 2003 depositions with the shooters' parents to be released in 2027   Tue Jul 10, 2018 12:31 pm

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The longer they wait it looks like they’re trying to cover something up.


Likely they were hoping the public's interest would dissipate after so many years had passed. BUT there are still a significant amount of people who would sell a kidney just to see the basement tapes, along with the depositions. Haha

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PostSubject: Re: 2003 depositions with the shooters' parents to be released in 2027   Tue Jul 10, 2018 12:46 pm

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The longer they wait it looks like they’re trying to cover something up.


Likely they were hoping the public's interest would dissipate after so many years had passed. BUT there are still a significant amount of people who would sell a kidney just to see the basement tapes, along with the dispositions. Haha

There is something about columbine that really captivates people even people who weren’t even born then.

I remember When I heard about a mothers reckoning coming out that was after My 16 some odd year hiatus I thought to myself I doubt anybody’s interested in this case anymore. Then I looked online and saw that these people still interested in Eric and Dylan and were interested in learning about Rachel and I was like wow! But then I discovered all the evidence and videos that I missed so I started getting interested in it again too!!
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PostSubject: Re: 2003 depositions with the shooters' parents to be released in 2027   Tue Jul 10, 2018 1:58 pm

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The longer they wait it looks like they’re trying to cover something up.


Likely they were hoping the public's interest would dissipate after so many years had passed. BUT there are still a significant amount of people who would sell a kidney just to see the basement tapes, along with the depositions. Haha

There is something about columbine that really captivates people even people who weren’t even born then.

I remember When I heard about a mothers reckoning coming out that was after My  16 some odd year  hiatus I thought to myself I doubt anybody’s interested in this case anymore. Then I looked online and saw that these people still interested  in Eric  and Dylan and were interested in learning about Rachel and I was like wow! But then I discovered all the evidence and videos that I missed so I started getting interested in it again too!!


Agreed. There are some die hards that wont stop until they get to see the basement tapes. I only hope we live long enough for someone to dig them up!

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PostSubject: Re: 2003 depositions with the shooters' parents to be released in 2027   Tue Jul 10, 2018 5:42 pm

20 years so 2027? First of all They have to live until that year. I doubt that they will speak.
But I believe that E&D brothers will someday..
I tell ya something is fishy about Jeffco why did they catch the letters from the harris family which they wrote to the victims & parents? Why are they bullsh.. Ppl? No wonder that Wayne & Kathy didn't speak.
Oh and bullet is spelled with 2 L dear Jeffco!
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PostSubject: Re: 2003 depositions with the shooters' parents to be released in 2027   Tue Jul 10, 2018 5:51 pm

Could you imagine Kevin coming out and saying you know to be honest I never had a good feeling about Dylan I really wish Eric would’ve stayed away from him and just hung out with me And tried to make better friends who were more positive.

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PostSubject: Re: 2003 depositions with the shooters' parents to be released in 2027   Tue Jul 10, 2018 5:52 pm

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20 years so 2027? First of all They have to live until that year. I doubt that they will speak.
But I believe that E&D brothers will someday..
I tell ya something is fishy about Jeffco  why did they catch the letters from the harris family which they wrote to the victims & parents? Why are they bullsh.. Ppl? No wonder that Wayne & Kathy didn't speak.
Oh and bullet is spelled with 2 L dear Jeffco!

I think the four parents will be in their late 70s/80s by then. It’s almost at the 30 year anniversary of the massacre..
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PostSubject: Re: 2003 depositions with the shooters' parents to be released in 2027   Tue Jul 10, 2018 5:57 pm

[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] I can imagine Byron & Kev coming together and write a book about their brothers like what happened, about the school environment and so on as far as I know Kev & Eric were very close I have no doubt about Kev. they could do this with Brooks help maybe... Brooks could tell them what was going on at school, how they were treated and so on
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PostSubject: Re: 2003 depositions with the shooters' parents to be released in 2027   Tue Jul 10, 2018 5:58 pm

I'm still holding out hope that whatever technicality CVA came up with saying that the depositions will be released in 2023 instead of 2027 holds true!
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PostSubject: Re: 2003 depositions with the shooters' parents to be released in 2027   Tue Jul 10, 2018 6:00 pm

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[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] I can imagine Byron & Kev coming together and write a book  about their brothers like what happened, about the school environment and so on as far as I know Kev & Eric were very close I have no doubt about Kev. they could do this with Brooks help maybe... Brooks could tell them what was going on at school, how they were treated and so on


I would pay good money to read a book by either one. Just leave Brooks OUT!

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PostSubject: Re: 2003 depositions with the shooters' parents to be released in 2027   Tue Jul 10, 2018 6:00 pm

[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] I doubt they will be strong enough to speak in their 80s.
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PostSubject: Re: 2003 depositions with the shooters' parents to be released in 2027   Tue Jul 10, 2018 6:01 pm

[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] I'd rather have Brooks than cullen just no cullen
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PostSubject: Re: 2003 depositions with the shooters' parents to be released in 2027   Tue Jul 10, 2018 6:02 pm

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I say toss them both! Haha

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PostSubject: Re: 2003 depositions with the shooters' parents to be released in 2027   Tue Jul 10, 2018 6:02 pm

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[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] I can imagine Byron & Kev coming together and write a book  about their brothers like what happened, about the school environment and so on as far as I know Kev & Eric were very close I have no doubt about Kev. they could do this with Brooks help maybe... Brooks could tell them what was going on at school, how they were treated and so on


I would pay good money to read a book by either one. Just leave Brooks OUT!


Yes!! That would be amazing

With Brooks it would I was close to him like a brother and Byron would be like shut up Brooks.

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PostSubject: Re: 2003 depositions with the shooters' parents to be released in 2027   Tue Jul 10, 2018 6:03 pm

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[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] I can imagine Byron & Kev coming together and write a book  about their brothers like what happened, about the school environment and so on as far as I know Kev & Eric were very close I have no doubt about Kev. they could do this with Brooks help maybe... Brooks could tell them what was going on at school, how they were treated and so on


I would pay good money to read a book by either one. Just leave Brooks OUT!


Yes!! That would be amazing

With Brooks it would  I was close to him like a brother and Byron would be like shut up Brooks.


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PostSubject: Re: 2003 depositions with the shooters' parents to be released in 2027   Tue Jul 10, 2018 6:04 pm

I've read somewhere that cullen was involved in sue klebolds book a mother's reckoning I hope that's not true? Well I hope not!
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PostSubject: Re: 2003 depositions with the shooters' parents to be released in 2027   Tue Jul 10, 2018 6:04 pm

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I've read somewhere  that cullen was involved in sue klebolds book a mother's reckoning I hope that's not true? Well I hope not!


Sadly it is true!

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PostSubject: Re: 2003 depositions with the shooters' parents to be released in 2027   Tue Jul 10, 2018 6:06 pm

[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] well shi . I wonder if ppl know that..


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PostSubject: Re: 2003 depositions with the shooters' parents to be released in 2027   Tue Jul 10, 2018 6:07 pm

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[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]  im dead inside.

Yep, Sue used Cullen to fact check for her! Rolling Eyes He couldn't even fact check his own damn book! Haha

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PostSubject: Re: 2003 depositions with the shooters' parents to be released in 2027   Tue Jul 10, 2018 6:11 pm

[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] I wonder if she regrets that..
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PostSubject: Re: 2003 depositions with the shooters' parents to be released in 2027   Tue Jul 10, 2018 6:14 pm

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Likely not as Cullen views Dylan very similar to the way Sue herself sometimes does. They both hit very hard on his good points while trying to minimize his bad.

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PostSubject: Re: 2003 depositions with the shooters' parents to be released in 2027   Tue Jul 10, 2018 6:18 pm

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[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]  well shi . I wonder if ppl know that..

Sue personally thanked Cullen on page 283 of her book. So yeah it's known.

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''I have been astonished that men could die martyrs for religion—I have shuddered at it. I shudder no more—I could be martyred for my religion—Love is my religion—I could die for that.''                                                                                                                                      
                                                        -John Keats (1795-1821)

“Love never dies a natural death. It dies because we don't know how to replenish its source. It dies of blindness and errors and betrayals. It dies of illness and wounds; it dies of weariness, of witherings, of tarnishings.”

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PostSubject: Re: 2003 depositions with the shooters' parents to be released in 2027   Tue Jul 10, 2018 6:29 pm

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[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]  well shi . I wonder if ppl know that..

Sue personally thanked Cullen on page 283 of her book. So yeah it's known.  


That makes me sad. Sad

I still think if there’s ever a Columbine movie Cullen cannot be involved. I’m telling you it would be a Christian Slater type for Eric in a sloth from goonies character for Dylan
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PostSubject: Re: 2003 depositions with the shooters' parents to be released in 2027   Tue Jul 10, 2018 6:30 pm

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[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]  well shi . I wonder if ppl know that..

Sue personally thanked Cullen on page 283 of her book. So yeah it's known.  


That makes me sad. Sad

I still think if there’s ever a Columbine movie Cullen  cannot be involved. I’m telling you it would be a Christian Slater type for Eric in a sloth from goonies character for Dylan



BAHAHA! You are right on that! Roll

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''I have been astonished that men could die martyrs for religion—I have shuddered at it. I shudder no more—I could be martyred for my religion—Love is my religion—I could die for that.''                                                                                                                                      
                                                        -John Keats (1795-1821)

“Love never dies a natural death. It dies because we don't know how to replenish its source. It dies of blindness and errors and betrayals. It dies of illness and wounds; it dies of weariness, of witherings, of tarnishings.”

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