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 Why did adam lanza leave nothing behind?

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PostSubject: Why did adam lanza leave nothing behind?   Mon Oct 08, 2018 10:59 pm

Adam Lanza was succesful in getting a large kill count, and targeted younger children in order to get even more attention. However he didnt make any videos, he didnt write a manifesto, didnt leave a journal, he didnt even leave a note. He was extremely familier with other mass shooters, and must have known that those who do leave videos/writings are more talked about. For example elloot rodger left much evidence behind and as a result there are several youtube channels (basedshaman, mumkey jones) that to this day, years after the incident, make content discussing him and analyzing what he left behind. (I know elliot rodger happened after sandy hook, but still.) if adam wanted maximum casualties, and maximum fame, why didnt he leave anything behind? Thoughts?
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PostSubject: Re: Why did adam lanza leave nothing behind?   Mon Oct 08, 2018 11:34 pm

I don't think Adam's goal was to be famous, it was all about committing mass murder and killing himself, he probably knew that crime would be pretty notorious but he seem to didn't really care about it. If he did I'm pretty sure he would left some note or manifesto like Cho did. I don't he solely targeted children for attention alone but since they were unfortunately easier targets for him handle compared to older teenagers which couldve fought back but its hard to say if they definitely would but it probably factored in Adam's final decision to attack an elementary school.

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PostSubject: Re: Why did adam lanza leave nothing behind?   Tue Oct 09, 2018 12:05 am

I think he targeted children out of sadism.
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PostSubject: Re: Why did adam lanza leave nothing behind?   Tue Oct 09, 2018 1:35 am

Maybe Lanza actually knew that people are getting more aware about all this want for infamy that mass shooters appear to have, and he tried to adapt to that. Maybe it was all a very complicated plan to make him even more infamous - standing out for being one of the very few shooters that "wasn't interested in fame and glory". I mean, the guy was clearly pretty intelligent.

Some kind of reverse psychology, perhaps?

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PostSubject: Re: Why did adam lanza leave nothing behind?   Tue Oct 09, 2018 1:54 pm

Personally, I Believe that Adam at least considered emulating what other similar mass shooters had left behind; specifically pictures of themselves holding weapons i.e. Seung Hui Cho. I believe that the proof of this consideration comes from the fact that ‘manifesto’ or ‘iconographic’ images were deliberately taken by Adam of himself dressed in the outfit he wore during the attack, as well as with photos of himself with his weapons pointed at his head.

As to why Adam didn’t compile this into a manifesto, of some other document/exposure piece as seen with other mass shooters; it’s all purely conjecture. In my opinion, Adam saw little point in working on something that he would not see any results from, or served him no purpose. Which I think is a behaviour demonstrated through Adam’s habit of retroactively removing forum posts and perhaps even the contents of his hard drive, they served no purpose and in his desire to control every aspect of his life, it was easier to just remove them.

As to why he did any of this, your guess is as good as mine. But I do believe Adam at least contemplated leaving something, took the photos as some sort of experiment and then forgot about them, which led to them being found (if I recall correctly, the hard drive containing the phots was in the cupboard of the room containing the gun safe)

A very good question I’ve often considered myself though, so I’m interested to hear the thoughts of others.

TL;DR Adam considered leaving behind at least some photos, didn’t like how they turned out/their value and forgot about them


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PostSubject: Re: Why did adam lanza leave nothing behind?   Tue Oct 09, 2018 2:17 pm

Here is an interesting quote from Smiggles/Adam Lanza written on SBB:

"One of the major reasons why Columbine is still a (relatively) popular topic in recent years
is because of the potential it allows for speculation. This would not exist if they had lived
because their actual thoughts and experiences, the contents of the basement tapes/Nixon
tape, and everything like that would probably be well-known." - Smiggles

I believe he wants us to speculate about his motive.

There is some information regarding Lanza, but it's inconclusive for a motive.

Source to the quote: [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]
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PostSubject: Re: Why did adam lanza leave nothing behind?   Tue Oct 09, 2018 4:36 pm

Thanks, "Devil", for linking us to it. I happen to agree with you on Adam Lanza wanting us to speculate and wonder about his motive, but I suspect that there was also another reason for that: to create more of a mystery about himself. Personally, I think it's a basic human nature to want to solve mysteries, and I think Adam Lanza knew about that. After all, if the Basement Tapes had been released early on - there probably wouldn't be as many "Columbiners" as there are nowadays. The mystery of the Basement Tapes is part of the mystique for some.

There was a thread discussing Adam Lanza's e-mail and people wanting to obtain access to it, and there are people wanting to read the files on his computer. Myself included, honestly. I like to learn about people, especially infamous people.

Apologies if I've gotten anything wrong in this, and hope you're all having a nice enough week.
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PostSubject: Re: Why did adam lanza leave nothing behind?   Mon Mar 11, 2019 6:44 pm

[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:
Personally, I Believe that Adam at least considered emulating what other similar mass shooters had left behind; specifically pictures of themselves holding weapons i.e. Seung Hui Cho. I believe that the proof of this consideration comes from the fact that ‘manifesto’ or ‘iconographic’ images were deliberately taken by Adam of himself dressed in the outfit he wore during the attack, as well as with photos of himself with his weapons pointed at his head.

As to why Adam didn’t compile this into a manifesto, of some other document/exposure piece as seen with other mass shooters; it’s all purely conjecture. In my opinion, Adam saw little point in working on something that he would not see any results from, or served him no purpose. Which I think is a behaviour demonstrated through Adam’s habit of retroactively removing forum posts and perhaps even the contents of his hard drive, they served no purpose and in his desire to control every aspect of his life, it was easier to just remove them.

As to why he did any of this, your guess is as good as mine. But I do believe Adam at least contemplated leaving something, took the photos as some sort of experiment and then forgot about them, which led to them being found (if I recall correctly, the hard drive containing the phots was in the cupboard of the room containing the gun safe)

A very good question I’ve often considered myself though, so I’m interested to hear the thoughts of others.

TL;DR Adam considered leaving behind at least some photos, didn’t like how they turned out/their value and forgot about them

Sorry for bumping this old thread, but this post got me interested. I don't think Adam just took those photos and forgot about them. He did everything he could to erase all information about him. He destroyed his hard drive. He killed his mother (maybe he thought Nancy knew too much and was kind of a human hard drive), and yet he forgot to destroy a suspicious hard drive containing photos of himself with guns? he wasn't stupid, I don't think he forgot about that hard drive.

I personally think he hoped that the police would release the photos so he could get some fame, but uploading those pictures to the internet would make him look like he was just trying to get attention.

I mean, not all shooters that took photos of themselves uploaded them to the internet, probably because of this reason. Most don't publish it online but leave their footage/tapes/whatever on a storage device for when the investigators find it. For example, the pictures James Holmes took of himself were found at his phone, he didn't upload them, probably hoping that the cops would release them. I mean, if he didn't really want these photos to get leaked he could just have deleted them, but he didn't. You should watch the recently published James Holmes interviews, where he says he took those photos to "be remembered" I think the same applies to most of mass shooters, like Adam or Cho. Hell, they even show Holmes the picture of Cho pointing a gun to himself, asking if he was inspired by him.
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PostSubject: Re: Why did adam lanza leave nothing behind?   Tue Mar 12, 2019 4:18 pm

I'm even less knowledgeable than usual about Lanza's case, but I get the sense leaving nothing behind and killing his mother was more calculated than some on here would suppose. It seems he studied mass murderers and combined aspects of several of them in the way which he felt suited his needs. Part of why Columbine is interesting and the shooters death seen almost as tragic as the victims if not more so is because of all the questions we cannot ask the. He wanted us left asking questions. Also, the aspect of matricide adds another dimension to the case.

So, in sum, I think it was partly to do with him giving his answers to the question "Hm, why is Columbine remembered? Why are Kip Kinkel and Charles Whitman remembered?"
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