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LevtinAlex
Posts : 70 Contribution Points : 50850 Forum Reputation : 25 Join date : 2018-11-07 Location : Russia
| Subject: Re: At least 18 people killed in Crimea mass shooting/bombing Wed Nov 07, 2018 12:38 pm | |
| - ShadowedGoddess wrote:
- In your opinion has there been anything released by the media that is untrue? Also are they still searching for other people that may have been involved?
Thanks for the lesson, mod, but I'm a jeasly student *facepalm* Yes, we have very few such crimes. Many call Vlad a terrorist, many are looking for the background of this massacre. Some don't believe that Vlad was alone. I’m sure that they continue to check his surroundings, because people need that to say. Find out the details, where it’s from, where’s the other, etc. It’s time to wait before the fog clears up... There’s talk about the reasons, about getting a weapon, but you understand - that it’s an exotic crime. Columbine's experience is constantly remembered. I have some fear that 4/20/19 will be rich in copycats around the world (see my avatar). | |
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lockerouch
Posts : 40 Contribution Points : 50351 Forum Reputation : 0 Join date : 2018-10-18
| Subject: Re: At least 18 people killed in Crimea mass shooting/bombing Wed Nov 07, 2018 12:46 pm | |
| [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]Yw I speak Russian so if there’s something else you want to know I can try to research. If there’s anything new I will post it here | |
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| Subject: Re: At least 18 people killed in Crimea mass shooting/bombing Wed Nov 07, 2018 12:52 pm | |
| - LevtinAlex wrote:
- Thanks for the lesson, mod, but I'm a jeasly student *facepalm*
Yes, we have very few such crimes. Many call Vlad a terrorist, many are looking for the background of this massacre. Some don't believe that Vlad was alone. I’m sure that they continue to check his surroundings, because people need that to say. Find out the details, where it’s from, where’s the other, etc. It’s time to wait before the fog clears up... There’s talk about the reasons, about getting a weapon, but you understand - that it’s an exotic crime. Columbine's experience is constantly remembered. I have some fear that 4/20/19 will be rich in copycats around the world (see my avatar). OR I'm a lousy teacher! You will get the hang of it! I know there is security footage of Vlad talking and possibly even handing something to a guy inside the collage shortly before he started shooting. DO you know if that person has been located and questioned yet?
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| Subject: Re: At least 18 people killed in Crimea mass shooting/bombing Wed Nov 07, 2018 1:42 pm | |
| - LevtinAlex wrote:
- Roslyakov didn't write that he was being bullied in college, but he mentioned that "tyranny" reigns there. What this means, he didn't explain.
If I had to make an educated guess, I'm gonna say he didn't like getting told what to do by teachers/professors or having to do required coursework. _________________ "My guns are the only things that haven't stabbed me in the back." -Kip Kinkel
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| Subject: Re: At least 18 people killed in Crimea mass shooting/bombing Wed Nov 07, 2018 5:15 pm | |
| [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]Another pic of Vlad. Has anyone else noticed in all the pics where he is older, he is almost never looking at the camera? He is either looking away, down, or covering his face. |
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| Subject: Re: At least 18 people killed in Crimea mass shooting/bombing Wed Nov 07, 2018 7:44 pm | |
| - ShadowedGoddess wrote:
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Another pic of Vlad. Has anyone else noticed in all the pics where he is older, he is almost never looking at the camera? He is either looking away, down, or covering his face. I can think of two reasons for that. 1. He's not the focus of the photographs, so naturally he wouldn't be looking at the camera. 2. He really is that miserable and shy that he wants to avoid people's attention. _________________ "My guns are the only things that haven't stabbed me in the back." -Kip Kinkel
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LevtinAlex
Posts : 70 Contribution Points : 50850 Forum Reputation : 25 Join date : 2018-11-07 Location : Russia
| Subject: Re: At least 18 people killed in Crimea mass shooting/bombing Thu Nov 08, 2018 12:40 am | |
| - ShadowedGoddess wrote:
- LevtinAlex wrote:
- Thanks for the lesson, mod, but I'm a jeasly student *facepalm*
Yes, we have very few such crimes. Many call Vlad a terrorist, many are looking for the background of this massacre. Some don't believe that Vlad was alone. I’m sure that they continue to check his surroundings, because people need that to say. Find out the details, where it’s from, where’s the other, etc. It’s time to wait before the fog clears up... There’s talk about the reasons, about getting a weapon, but you understand - that it’s an exotic crime. Columbine's experience is constantly remembered. I have some fear that 4/20/19 will be rich in copycats around the world (see my avatar).
OR I'm a lousy teacher! You will get the hang of it!
I know there is security footage of Vlad talking and possibly even handing something to a guy inside the collage shortly before he started shooting. DO you know if that person has been located and questioned yet? I'll try to find info about this guy, but now I don't know. But I got notes about the weirdness from massacre video, and I'm going to delve into it. This is the most mysterious part of the shooting. UPD: I found a reconstruction of how Vlad walked. Very interesting, but because of the site policy I can't give a link. They say that video from surveillance cameras was obtained illegally; for this, one editor-in-chief was fired from TV. | |
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lockerouch
Posts : 40 Contribution Points : 50351 Forum Reputation : 0 Join date : 2018-10-18
| Subject: Re: At least 18 people killed in Crimea mass shooting/bombing Thu Nov 08, 2018 6:33 am | |
| Tge guy he was talking to is their lab technician, he always shakes hands like that with everyone so there’s nothing suspicious in that. | |
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lockerouch
Posts : 40 Contribution Points : 50351 Forum Reputation : 0 Join date : 2018-10-18
| Subject: Re: At least 18 people killed in Crimea mass shooting/bombing Thu Nov 08, 2018 6:40 am | |
| [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]The man sitting in from of him is also the one he killed. I think he didn’t like to be photographed as he destroyed all his photos before the shooting He also wrote his classmate that he was ugly on his photos. | |
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| Subject: Re: At least 18 people killed in Crimea mass shooting/bombing Thu Nov 08, 2018 6:40 am | |
| - lockerouch wrote:
- Tge guy he was talking to is their lab technician, he always shakes hands like that with everyone so there’s nothing suspicious in that.
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] Thanks for clearing that up, as there were reports of this person possibly being involved with or having prior knowledge of the attack. |
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| Subject: Re: At least 18 people killed in Crimea mass shooting/bombing Thu Nov 08, 2018 7:08 am | |
| - lockerouch wrote:
- The man sitting in from of him is also the one he killed.
I think he didn’t like to be photographed as he destroyed all his photos before the shooting He also wrote his classmate that he was ugly on his photos. That is very interesting. Because in my honest opinion, he wasn't unattractive in the least. BUT that just goes to show you how people can sometimes view themselves compared to how others possibly see them. Also sad that he decided to take so many innocent lives and devastated countless more. |
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| Subject: Re: At least 18 people killed in Crimea mass shooting/bombing Thu Nov 08, 2018 7:37 am | |
| - LevtinAlex wrote:
- ShadowedGoddess wrote:
- LevtinAlex wrote:
- Thanks for the lesson, mod, but I'm a jeasly student *facepalm*
Yes, we have very few such crimes. Many call Vlad a terrorist, many are looking for the background of this massacre. Some don't believe that Vlad was alone. I’m sure that they continue to check his surroundings, because people need that to say. Find out the details, where it’s from, where’s the other, etc. It’s time to wait before the fog clears up... There’s talk about the reasons, about getting a weapon, but you understand - that it’s an exotic crime. Columbine's experience is constantly remembered. I have some fear that 4/20/19 will be rich in copycats around the world (see my avatar).
OR I'm a lousy teacher! You will get the hang of it!
I know there is security footage of Vlad talking and possibly even handing something to a guy inside the collage shortly before he started shooting. DO you know if that person has been located and questioned yet? I'll try to find info about this guy, but now I don't know. But I got notes about the weirdness from massacre video, and I'm going to delve into it. This is the most mysterious part of the shooting.
UPD: I found a reconstruction of how Vlad walked. Very interesting, but because of the site policy I can't give a link. They say that video from surveillance cameras was obtained illegally; for this, one editor-in-chief was fired from TV. [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] I see you got the hang of quoting! |
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LevtinAlex
Posts : 70 Contribution Points : 50850 Forum Reputation : 25 Join date : 2018-11-07 Location : Russia
| Subject: Re: At least 18 people killed in Crimea mass shooting/bombing Thu Nov 08, 2018 7:53 am | |
| - ShadowedGoddess wrote:
- LevtinAlex wrote:
- ShadowedGoddess wrote:
- LevtinAlex wrote:
- Thanks for the lesson, mod, but I'm a jeasly student *facepalm*
Yes, we have very few such crimes. Many call Vlad a terrorist, many are looking for the background of this massacre. Some don't believe that Vlad was alone. I’m sure that they continue to check his surroundings, because people need that to say. Find out the details, where it’s from, where’s the other, etc. It’s time to wait before the fog clears up... There’s talk about the reasons, about getting a weapon, but you understand - that it’s an exotic crime. Columbine's experience is constantly remembered. I have some fear that 4/20/19 will be rich in copycats around the world (see my avatar).
OR I'm a lousy teacher! You will get the hang of it!
I know there is security footage of Vlad talking and possibly even handing something to a guy inside the collage shortly before he started shooting. DO you know if that person has been located and questioned yet? I'll try to find info about this guy, but now I don't know. But I got notes about the weirdness from massacre video, and I'm going to delve into it. This is the most mysterious part of the shooting.
UPD: I found a reconstruction of how Vlad walked. Very interesting, but because of the site policy I can't give a link. They say that video from surveillance cameras was obtained illegally; for this, one editor-in-chief was fired from TV.
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] I see you got the hang of quoting! It remains for me to learn to reduce these quotes | |
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| Subject: Re: At least 18 people killed in Crimea mass shooting/bombing Thu Nov 08, 2018 8:02 am | |
| - LevtinAlex wrote:
- ShadowedGoddess wrote:
- [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] I see you got the hang of quoting!
It remains for me to learn to reduce these quotes Yeah that can be a little tricky, if you remove the wrong [/quote] it messing everything up! Just keep playing around with a post in the Preview until it looks the way you want it! If you need any help just yell! |
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LevtinAlex
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| Subject: Re: At least 18 people killed in Crimea mass shooting/bombing Thu Nov 08, 2018 9:58 am | |
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| Subject: Re: At least 18 people killed in Crimea mass shooting/bombing Thu Nov 08, 2018 10:08 am | |
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lockerouch
Posts : 40 Contribution Points : 50351 Forum Reputation : 0 Join date : 2018-10-18
| Subject: Re: At least 18 people killed in Crimea mass shooting/bombing Fri Nov 09, 2018 7:28 am | |
| Found out Vlad’s favorite movies were the same as E&D’s (lost highway, pulp fiction, nbk). He was also listening to dark depressing music. | |
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| Subject: Re: At least 18 people killed in Crimea mass shooting/bombing Fri Nov 09, 2018 7:31 am | |
| - lockerouch wrote:
- Found out Vlad’s favorite movies were the same as E&D’s (lost highway, pulp fiction, nbk).
He was also listening to dark depressing music. I have to wonder if he truly liked those movies, or only said he did because Eric and Dylan had liked them? |
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lockerouch
Posts : 40 Contribution Points : 50351 Forum Reputation : 0 Join date : 2018-10-18
| Subject: Re: At least 18 people killed in Crimea mass shooting/bombing Fri Nov 09, 2018 7:45 am | |
| - Quote :
- That is very interesting. Because in my honest opinion, he wasn't unattractive in the least. BUT that just goes to show you how people can sometimes view themselves compared to how others possibly see them.
Yes, but in his messages he told that he was aware some girls liked him but he avoided them. I guess maybe he thought in real life he looked better. There may be even some narcissistic complex involved He clearly though he was not like anyone else and wanted to get attention. He was also a member of racial anthropology group in social network where people discuss white supremacy. | |
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LevtinAlex
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| Subject: Re: At least 18 people killed in Crimea mass shooting/bombing Mon Nov 12, 2018 2:29 am | |
| New information: investigators said that Vlad acted alone. Personally, I am waiting for information about where he trained in shooting and how he made the bomb. _________________ Sun is hiding in his heart, so as not to burn all the Earth.
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LevtinAlex
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| Subject: Re: At least 18 people killed in Crimea mass shooting/bombing Sat Nov 24, 2018 2:34 am | |
| The FSB writes that it has prevented several attacks on other schools. Their representative said that the massacre in Kerch "gave a surge". Okay, they said nothing more, but they admit that Vlad already has copicaters. _________________ Sun is hiding in his heart, so as not to burn all the Earth.
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| Subject: Re: At least 18 people killed in Crimea mass shooting/bombing Sat Dec 01, 2018 10:13 am | |
| Anything new been dug up on this? |
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| Subject: Re: At least 18 people killed in Crimea mass shooting/bombing Sat Dec 01, 2018 11:08 am | |
| - ShadowedGoddess wrote:
- Anything new been dug up on this?
Vladislav Roslyakov was burried secretly and another name was written on the grave. I also read this "Roslyakov's relatives signed an agreement not to disclose the the investigation’s details." I don't think we will ever have new information, at least not soon. |
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| Subject: Re: At least 18 people killed in Crimea mass shooting/bombing Sat Dec 01, 2018 11:31 am | |
| - Neah wrote:
- ShadowedGoddess wrote:
- Anything new been dug up on this?
Vladislav Roslyakov was burried secretly and another name was written on the grave.
I also read this "Roslyakov's relatives signed an agreement not to disclose the the investigation’s details."
I don't think we will ever have new information, at least not soon. Well that sucks all around. |
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LevtinAlex
Posts : 70 Contribution Points : 50850 Forum Reputation : 25 Join date : 2018-11-07 Location : Russia
| Subject: Re: At least 18 people killed in Crimea mass shooting/bombing Sat Dec 01, 2018 1:43 pm | |
| - ShadowedGoddess wrote:
- Neah wrote:
- ShadowedGoddess wrote:
- Anything new been dug up on this?
Vladislav Roslyakov was burried secretly and another name was written on the grave.
I also read this "Roslyakov's relatives signed an agreement not to disclose the the investigation’s details."
I don't think we will ever have new information, at least not soon.
Well that sucks all around. I didn't' hear about the last point (i.e. signed agreement) but it is possible. So: first we all swallowed a piece of cake, then choked. But I'm glad that he was buried. I don't know why in his case this seems to me to be something important. _________________ Sun is hiding in his heart, so as not to burn all the Earth.
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| Subject: Re: At least 18 people killed in Crimea mass shooting/bombing Sun Dec 16, 2018 11:06 am | |
| If I understood correctly 15 injured people are still hospitalized, including 11 children. |
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LevtinAlex
Posts : 70 Contribution Points : 50850 Forum Reputation : 25 Join date : 2018-11-07 Location : Russia
| Subject: Re: At least 18 people killed in Crimea mass shooting/bombing Sun Dec 16, 2018 11:29 am | |
| I have suspicions that the entire resonanse from the "violent video game" was rigged. All distracted by the obvious stupidity and forget what happened in Kerch. By the way, now it has become more difficult for us to get a weapon: they have introduced new requirements, such as recommendations and income certificates (if its have not yet entered, they will soon be introduced). On the sly. _________________ Sun is hiding in his heart, so as not to burn all the Earth.
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LevtinAlex
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| Subject: Re: At least 18 people killed in Crimea mass shooting/bombing Wed Jan 02, 2019 11:40 pm | |
| 2019 news (and not only): 1. Injured people are discharged from the hospital. (The total number of victims = 20 + Vlad's corpse, 73 wounded). 2. I don’t know if it’s news or not, but they write that there were two bombs. One didn't work. 3. Roslyakov, before attacking the college, burned family photos, notebooks, a telephone and a laptop. So far this is the most interesting. 4. College repair. Security measures strengthened. In the building where the massacre took place, they even conducted classes. 5. Everyone is in a hurry to help polytechnic students and relatives of victims. _________________ Sun is hiding in his heart, so as not to burn all the Earth.
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| Subject: Re: At least 18 people killed in Crimea mass shooting/bombing Sun Jan 06, 2019 6:16 am | |
| - LevtinAlex wrote:
- 2019 news (and not only):
1. Injured people are discharged from the hospital. (The total number of victims = 20 + Vlad's corpse, 73 wounded). 2. I don’t know if it’s news or not, but they write that there were two bombs. One didn't work. 3. Roslyakov, before attacking the college, burned family photos, notebooks, a telephone and a laptop. So far this is the most interesting. 4. College repair. Security measures strengthened. In the building where the massacre took place, they even conducted classes. 5. Everyone is in a hurry to help polytechnic students and relatives of victims. Thanks our dear reporter! |
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James411
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| Subject: Re: At least 18 people killed in Crimea mass shooting/bombing Mon Jan 07, 2019 4:48 pm | |
| This case is really interesting too bad its in Russian so I cannot understand a lot of it. | |
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DooMRebel
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| Subject: Re: At least 18 people killed in Crimea mass shooting/bombing Sat Jan 26, 2019 11:42 am | |
| Any new info about this case? _________________ universe
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LevtinAlex
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| Subject: Re: At least 18 people killed in Crimea mass shooting/bombing Sun Jan 27, 2019 2:41 am | |
| - DooMRebel wrote:
- Any new info about this case?
Really nо. Only conspiracy theories and doubtful stuff. _________________ Sun is hiding in his heart, so as not to burn all the Earth.
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LevtinAlex
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| Subject: Re: At least 18 people killed in Crimea mass shooting/bombing Sun Jan 27, 2019 5:38 am | |
| - TheDragonoid wrote:
- I wish i could find the reports made by the russian media about this case, but subbed in english.
They seen to be kinda interesting, actually. You can read this: [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]I don’t really like Meduza, but this article(s) is ok. Fun fact: they published an interview with Dave Cullen, in which he complains of harassment on the network from the all sorts of columbiners: American, European, Russian, Chinese... I can translate a note about Roslyakov’s movement in the building, but it will take time. _________________ Sun is hiding in his heart, so as not to burn all the Earth.
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LevtinAlex
Posts : 70 Contribution Points : 50850 Forum Reputation : 25 Join date : 2018-11-07 Location : Russia
| Subject: Re: At least 18 people killed in Crimea mass shooting/bombing Tue Jan 29, 2019 3:46 am | |
| The official media published the scheme of Vlad's moves, which no one bothered to check. The result is misinformation, which raises many questions. But I was lucky, and I found a good note that I will present here now. Perhaps the whole text does not fit into the message, so I will divide it into parts. 《Shooting in Kerch. Reconstruction with localization》(I have cut some of the words without changing the meaning. All rights to the note belong to its author, I just translate it. I decided not to import the pictures, because there are so many of them. So, open the link and look there. At the same time read the text): [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]I Tried to reconstruct the event. The case was not easy. There are very few pictures and videos from the rooms - you can count them on your fingers. The facades of the college are obscured by thick trees. There are practically no good photos from the street. In addition, one of the buildings is listed on Wikimapia as abandoned, but in fact it functions. Because of this, it was very difficult for me. Then I went to look for college students on Vk. A 15-year-old freshman answered and helped me figure it out. Very smart guy. Video from the scene is very poorly mounted. First, let's define the terrain. The college consists of three buildings connected by transitions. The oldest is built somewhere in the 20s. The rest, I think, in the early 70s. Here is a satellite image. On it I marked the housings and stairs inside the buildings (red rectangles). Ladders are important for localization. (photo) (here and after: А = A, Б = B, В = C, Г = D, Д = E) 1. Central two-story building. There is a main entrance and a blown up dining room. 2. The old building, from which the college began. Two floors and a three-story "tower" in the center. 3. Four-story building. Housing 1. A terrible old photoshop from the official site, but other photos are worse. (photo) Old housing 2 (two photos) Housing 3 (photo) Now to the point. Roslyakov comes in from the courtyard through an unguarded entrance. He turns along the corridor into the building 3 and climbs the stairs "B" to the second floor. (five photos) Route: (photo) From there he goes into the corridor of the second floor of building 1 and near the ladder "C" greets a friend. (two photos) Route: (photo) Then (or later, cause the video is not clear) he comes to the stairs "D" in the housing 2. (photo) Route: (photo) Then he is again in the area of the stairs "C" of building 1. He descends the stairs to the hall at the central entrance. Somewhere in this gap, he threw off his bag with a gun, ammunition and homemade bombs. (two photos) Route: (photo) Goes out into the hall, sits on a bench near the dining room, pulls out the phone. He must be looking at the time, waiting for a call for a break. Just before the bell comes into the dining room and leaves a backpack with bomb. (three photos) Route: (photo) Leaving the backpack, he quickly leaves the building 1 to the building 3 to the second floor. On the move, he takes off his jacket and remains in a T-shirt with the word "Hatred". (three photos) Route: (photo) The bomb explodes. (four photos) Right here: (photo) ... to be continued _________________ Sun is hiding in his heart, so as not to burn all the Earth.
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LevtinAlex
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| Subject: Re: At least 18 people killed in Crimea mass shooting/bombing Tue Jan 29, 2019 3:48 am | |
| II
Since the bomb was on the floor, many were seriously injured legs. Most of the wounded and dead are from there.
Next, the plot from another video shot by a student on the phone. I don’t know if he shot people in classrooms. Most likely not, or some isolated cases, as the break started, then the explosion and the people began to run out en masse.
Roslyakov took a "profitable" position in the hall of the second floor of building 3 at the ladder "B" and began to shoot people going down the stairs from the third and fourth floors. A group of girls and a couple of teachers tried to go down from the third floor. (photo)
Right here: (photo)
But they came under fire. You can see how Roslyakov shoots them. (photo)
On the stairs the teacher of computer science is fatally wounded. (three photos) (full name of the teacher - Moiseenko Alexander Vladimirovich)
On the next stairs is already someone killed or wounded. (photo)
The girls retreat back to the third floor and make another attempt. The student turned out to be quick-witted - she doesn’t come out herself, but puts forward a phone and looks around with the help of a camera. Below on the stairs is another dead one. The wounded teacher is still alive - he looks up. (two photos)
The girls take a very risky decision to go down another ladder (“A”), but they succeed. They go down to the first floor and climb out the window. (four photos)
Route: (photo)
Roslyakov, meanwhile, returns to building 1. He walks along the second floor and kills a college employee. (three photos) (full name of the employee - Ustenko Lyudmila Aleksandrovna)
You can judge about the accuracy of shooting by the plate near the door - the plate shot down. He was not a mega-shooter, he was smearing it all the time, but the short distance, caliber, buckshot and quick reload allowed him to kill people.
Route: (photo)
Then he goes along the same corridor, throws off the cartridge case and goes into the building 2, where he kills some guy with three shots. (two photos)
Route: (photo)
After that, he descends the main ladder "E" of building 2 to the first floor and begins to cut circles. There are no more potential victims, he rises again to the second floor, then goes down, shoots fire extinguishers. Then in some class he shoots monitors. (seven photos)
Here in the area, on the first and second floor, he is circling: (photo)
He has nothing more to catch, he walks into the library, which is next to this ladder and shoots himself in the mouth. (photo collage)
I can confidently say that he shot at least 5 people. This is what is seen. How many actually, probably, investigators will tell.
Used videos: (two videos) ... That's all, and thanks to the author for this note. I hope you people will know more from this text. Rate how literate my translation is. _________________ Sun is hiding in his heart, so as not to burn all the Earth.
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| Subject: Re: At least 18 people killed in Crimea mass shooting/bombing Tue Jan 29, 2019 8:12 pm | |
| Do we know if the majority of the deceased victims was killed by the bomb or the shooting? I'm hearing a lot of conflicting things from a bunch of sources. | |
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| Subject: Re: At least 18 people killed in Crimea mass shooting/bombing Wed Jan 30, 2019 11:16 am | |
| [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] In terms of those who were both mass murderers and mass shooters, Nordine Amrani has the most disproportionate kill-to-injury ratio at (6, 125). This is because he used stun grenades and shot from an elevated position with an FN FAL with no sight attachments beyond the original, so he didn't have that much potential for accuracy. He also killed a woman earlier that day, but that wasn't in the mass shooting itself. |
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| Subject: Re: At least 18 people killed in Crimea mass shooting/bombing Wed Jan 30, 2019 2:33 pm | |
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James411
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| Subject: Re: At least 18 people killed in Crimea mass shooting/bombing Wed Feb 13, 2019 2:26 pm | |
| Vlad was kind of mean person, he was cruel to kittens and I think eventually his anger turned to humans. | |
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lockerouch
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| Subject: Re: At least 18 people killed in Crimea mass shooting/bombing Wed Feb 13, 2019 6:18 pm | |
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James411
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| Subject: Re: At least 18 people killed in Crimea mass shooting/bombing Thu Feb 14, 2019 10:13 pm | |
| Does him wearing a red armband in that picture have anything to do with socialism. Because Russia used to follow socialism during soviet union and red was the color of the soviet flag. | |
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James411
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| Subject: Re: At least 18 people killed in Crimea mass shooting/bombing Thu Feb 14, 2019 10:16 pm | |
| Russia seems like such a depressing place to live in but Russian girls are cute. | |
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QuestionMark Top 10 Contributor
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| Subject: Re: At least 18 people killed in Crimea mass shooting/bombing Fri Feb 15, 2019 12:14 am | |
| - James411 wrote:
- Does him wearing a red armband in that picture have anything to do with socialism. Because Russia used to follow socialism during soviet union and red was the color of the soviet flag.
Does it matter in this context? I know socialism has a rather bloodstained history, but I don't recall anything in Marxist dogma about how bombing a school and shooting your classmates is supposed to advance the revolution. _________________ "My guns are the only things that haven't stabbed me in the back." -Kip Kinkel
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LevtinAlex
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| Subject: Re: At least 18 people killed in Crimea mass shooting/bombing Fri Feb 15, 2019 6:17 am | |
| - James411 wrote:
- Does him wearing a red armband in that picture have anything to do with socialism. Because Russia used to follow socialism during soviet union and red was the color of the soviet flag.
mianing haz dieed here lol I don't think that old photos will shed light on his motives. _________________ Sun is hiding in his heart, so as not to burn all the Earth.
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Pixie13
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| Subject: Re: At least 18 people killed in Crimea mass shooting/bombing Fri Feb 15, 2019 1:53 pm | |
| USSR was communist NOT socialist. People need to learn the difference! | |
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School Massacre Archives
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| Subject: Re: At least 18 people killed in Crimea mass shooting/bombing Fri Feb 15, 2019 9:11 pm | |
| Does anybody know where the majority of the deaths happened in the shooting? _________________ Owner of the official School Massacre Archives YouTube channel.
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| Subject: Re: At least 18 people killed in Crimea mass shooting/bombing Fri Feb 15, 2019 9:40 pm | |
| Since pictures of the shooter leaked, did pictures of the victims leak? I'm curious. We got photos of the shooter so quickly. Haven't really been following this case too closely. |
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cakeman
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| Subject: Re: At least 18 people killed in Crimea mass shooting/bombing Fri Feb 15, 2019 11:34 pm | |
| - Pixie13 wrote:
- USSR was communist NOT socialist. People need to learn the difference!
USSR literally stands for Union of Soviet Socialist Republics mate, run by the Bolsheviks who were the Social Democrats, who ran the Communist Party. These are all synonyms; it's a very very annoying meme to say they're different because as a teenager reading the Communist Manifesto you learned the different stages of Marxist theory and other people just don't get it. We read it too, we just know that because (marxist) socialism is how you achieve communism in theory, that in practice historically the communists are socialists and the socialists are communists. It's a distinction without a difference. They both just mean the Marxists, the Reds. You don't get to play "that wasn't real socialism" or "that wasn't real communism" and do a smug laugh with that sophomoric of a tactic. And to preempt what I imagine is the obvious response, "National Socialism" is contrasting itself with "International Socialism", i. e Marxist socialism i. e. what "socialism" unqualified, simpliciter has come to mean. An analogy is perhaps the "sea horse" being different from a "land horse" i. e a horse. If I call my state the horse republic and am run by the equine party, somebody coming along and saying "horses and equines are different" is just annoying, and doubly so if they bring up sea horses. Was surprised how many people failed to notice the one fingerless glove in this case. If the shirt and blowing your brains out in the library wasn't enough to see it as a copycat. It's a decent guess to say the arm band has something to do with the Communists liking red. Of course, it could be school colors (the chairs are red), or national colors aside from the Russian Revolution (Russia's colors are red white and blue), and of course even the National Socialists also wore red armbands to both take the color back from the Communists and display national colors (red white and black in Germany's case if you like nationalism and Bismarck, red black and gold if a democrat, etc) | |
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LevtinAlex
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| Subject: Re: At least 18 people killed in Crimea mass shooting/bombing Sun Feb 17, 2019 10:40 am | |
| - hvernon wrote:
- Since pictures of the shooter leaked, did pictures of the victims leak? I'm curious. We got photos of the shooter so quickly. Haven't really been following this case too closely.
Depends on which photos you need. If this is a photo of the corpses, you won't find them anywhere. But if you want simple photos, then I can send several links. _________________ Sun is hiding in his heart, so as not to burn all the Earth.
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