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PostSubject: 4 Library diagrams. Deceased are highlighted in Red.   Wed Nov 20, 2013 9:52 am

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PostSubject: Re: 4 Library diagrams. Deceased are highlighted in Red.   Wed Nov 20, 2013 9:59 am

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PostSubject: Re: 4 Library diagrams. Deceased are highlighted in Red.   Wed Nov 20, 2013 10:02 am

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PostSubject: Re: 4 Library diagrams. Deceased are highlighted in Red.   Wed Nov 20, 2013 10:03 am

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PostSubject: Re: 4 Library diagrams. Deceased are highlighted in Red.   Wed Nov 20, 2013 10:05 am

I have been experimenting with sizes to show every detail.
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PostSubject: Re: 4 Library diagrams. Deceased are highlighted in Red.   Wed Nov 20, 2013 10:18 am

Dylan's trench coat is to the north of Table 18.
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PostSubject: Re: 4 Library diagrams. Deceased are highlighted in Red.   Wed Nov 20, 2013 6:08 pm

Thanks for posting this!

To see the little bodies in their helpless positions like that is quite chilling...

I think survivor and window crawler Patrick Ireland was lying under table 15, right by Eric and Dylan.

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PostSubject: Re: 4 Library diagrams. Deceased are highlighted in Red.   Wed Nov 20, 2013 6:26 pm

Is there a detailed list for all the students under each table in 11k?
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PostSubject: Re: 4 Library diagrams. Deceased are highlighted in Red.   Wed Nov 20, 2013 7:19 pm

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Is there a detailed list for all the students under each table in 11k?
Yes , checkout the library witness's / and the library injured. Every person in the library are accounted for and their hiding places are revealed.
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PostSubject: Re: 4 Library diagrams. Deceased are highlighted in Red.   Thu Nov 21, 2013 12:57 am

The diagrams are great, I think you linked the site before rik75 but in case anyone missed it they are here:
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Even though they may not be 100% accurate they give a rough visual of the timeline of events on 4/20.

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Is there a detailed list for all the students under each table in 11k?
As mentioned you can find interviews in the 'Library Injured' pg(1 - 179) and 'Library Witnesses' pg(266 - 650). You may also find the 'Library Team Reports' interesting pg(12238 - 12574).
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PostSubject: Re: 4 Library diagrams. Deceased are highlighted in Red.   Thu Nov 21, 2013 9:32 am

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The diagrams are great, I think you linked the site before rik75 but in case anyone missed it they are here:
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Even though they may not be 100% accurate they give a rough visual of the timeline of events on 4/20.

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Is there a detailed list for all the students under each table in 11k?
As mentioned you can find interviews in the 'Library Injured' pg(1 - 179) and 'Library Witnesses' pg(266 - 650). You may also find the 'Library Team Reports' interesting pg(12238 - 12574).
Hi Queenfarooq ,you are right ,i did post the TOC diagrams. I think the TOC diagrams are not as detailed as the diagrams in this post because the ones in this post show the positions of the bodies as they were found and they show the location of the survivors and the chairs surrounding each table.. The TOC diagrams use circles to represent the bodies.
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PostSubject: Re: 4 Library diagrams. Deceased are highlighted in Red.   Thu Nov 21, 2013 9:35 am

JayJay wrote:
Thanks for posting this!

To see the little bodies in their helpless positions like that is quite chilling...

I think survivor and window crawler Patrick Ireland was lying under table 15, right by Eric and Dylan.
You are welcome JayJay!
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PostSubject: Re: 4 Library diagrams. Deceased are highlighted in Red.   Thu Nov 21, 2013 10:37 am

Moseley wrote:
Is there a detailed list for all the students under each table in 11k?
Here is a list for you Moseley ,it may not be 100% accurate. scratch  But i tried Laughing 

MAIN DESK.
Patricia Nelson / Evan Todd.

TABLE 1.
Mark Kingten / Jenna Park.

TABLE 2.
Valeen Schnurr / Lauren Townsend / Lisa Kruetz / Diwata Perez / Kelly Fleming.

TABLE 3.
Patricia Blair / Heather Jacobson.

TABLE 4.
Unoccupied.

TABLE 5.
Nicole Nowlen / John Tomlin.

TABLE 6.
Unoccupied.

TABLE 7.
Aaron Welsh

TABLE 8.
Britany Bollerud / Joshua Lapp.

TABLE 9. 
Daniel Mauser.

TABLE 10.
Sara Houy / Seth Houy / Crystal Woodman.

TABLE 11.
John Savage.

TABLE 12.
Lindsay Elmore / Rebecca Parker.

TABLE 13.
Athena Lagos / Amber Huntington / Jessica Holiday.

TABLE 14.
Jennifer Doyle / Austin Eubanks / Peter Ball.

TABLE 15.
Daniel Stapleton / Makai Hall / Patric Ireland / Kathy Park (sister of Jenna Park)

TABLE 16.
Matthew Kechter / Isaiah Shoels.

TABLE 17.
Hedi Johnson

TABLE 18.
Unoccupied.

TABLE 19.
Emily Wyant / Cassie Burnall.

TABLE 20.
Bree Pasquale / Stephanie Salmon / Aaron Cohn / Steven Greenwood / Byron Kirkland


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PostSubject: Re: 4 Library diagrams. Deceased are highlighted in Red.   Thu Nov 21, 2013 10:58 am

You can see Eric and Dylan's final resting place is diagonally opposite the main entrance. They are completely out of sight of anyone entering the library via the main entrance. They didn't want to be disturbed during the " 1-2-3- BANG! BANG! "
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PostSubject: Re: 4 Library diagrams. Deceased are highlighted in Red.   Thu Nov 21, 2013 11:55 am

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You can see Eric and Dylan's final resting place is diagonally opposite the main entrance. They are completely out of sight of anyone entering the library via the main entrance. They didn't want to be disturbed during the " 1-2-3- BANG! BANG! "
They certainly were out of sight in the corner of the library, but i don't think there was a "1,2,3" moment of any kind.
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PostSubject: Re: 4 Library diagrams. Deceased are highlighted in Red.   Thu Nov 21, 2013 1:26 pm

Thanks for starting this Rik! A couple additions: Jeanna Park was under table 2, but Jessica Holliday was further back in the library.
Crystal Woodman was under table 10 with the Houy siblings.
Corey dePooter was also under table 14.
Kathy Park was the Asian girl hiding w/ Dan Steepleton's group.
Cassie was under the same table as Emily Wyant.
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PostSubject: Re: 4 Library diagrams. Deceased are highlighted in Red.   Thu Nov 21, 2013 1:39 pm

mrc123 wrote:
Thanks for starting this Rik!  A couple additions: Jeanna Park was under table 2, but Jessica Holliday was further back in the library.
Crystal Woodman was under table 10 with the Houy siblings.  
Corey dePooter was also under table 14.
Kathy Park was the Asian girl hiding w/ Dan Steepleton's group.
Cassie was under the same table as Emily Wyant.
Thanks for correcting me and naming the Chinese girl. Smile
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PostSubject: Re: 4 Library diagrams. Deceased are highlighted in Red.   Thu Nov 21, 2013 3:01 pm

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PostSubject: Re: 4 Library diagrams. Deceased are highlighted in Red.   Thu Nov 21, 2013 3:36 pm

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TABLE 16.
Matthew Kechter / Isaiah Shoels.

Wasn't Craig Scott under this table as well?
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PostSubject: Re: 4 Library diagrams. Deceased are highlighted in Red.   Sat Sep 17, 2016 1:41 am

what are red and blue numbers and letters in the diagram ?
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PostSubject: Re: 4 Library diagrams. Deceased are highlighted in Red.   Sat Sep 17, 2016 4:53 am

Are there not a few names missing off that list?

Also / I assume Sara and Seth Houy are brother and sister. I wonder if they still talk about what happened?
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PostSubject: Re: 4 Library diagrams. Deceased are highlighted in Red.   Sat Sep 17, 2016 11:13 am

I find it really interesting that some tables were completely skipped over while some were shot to all hell. I wonder what E & D's distinctions were because random (natural selection) seems unlikely, it's almost impossible for humans to pick something at random.
I feel terrible for Daniel Mauser, he was second to last to be killed so he had to listen (and smell) as his classmates screamed, cried, were shot and/or died. And he had to do it all alone, there were so many stories about kids under the same table comforting other kids or helping to staunch the bleeding.
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PostSubject: Re: 4 Library diagrams. Deceased are highlighted in Red.   Sat Sep 17, 2016 11:31 am

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I find it really interesting that some tables were completely skipped over while some were shot to all hell. I wonder what E & D's distinctions were because random (natural selection) seems unlikely, it's almost impossible for humans to pick something at random.

It was at random I promise you. Even at the table where all the girls were I think where Valeen and Lauren were despite the fact that Dylan said "look at those bitches over there".

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PostSubject: Re: 4 Library diagrams. Deceased are highlighted in Red.   Sat Sep 17, 2016 11:35 am

I think what's more interesting is when under a table there are either two or three people and only one would get shot fatally. Besides Isaiah and Matt most tables would only have one casualty of two or more. But I also ought to keep in mind that the boys thought they had killed more than those dead.

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PostSubject: Re: 4 Library diagrams. Deceased are highlighted in Red.   Sat Sep 17, 2016 11:51 am

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I think what's more interesting is when under a table there are either two or three people and only one would get shot fatally. Besides Isaiah and Matt most tables would only have one casualty of two or more. But I also ought to keep in mind that the boys thought they had killed more than those dead.

yes , maybe , playing dead worked for some .
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PostSubject: Re: 4 Library diagrams. Deceased are highlighted in Red.   Sat Sep 17, 2016 12:05 pm

Off topic, but why did E$D go from the right section to the left section then to the middle ( I imagine there were tall bookcases separating the 3 sections of tables)?
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PostSubject: Re: 4 Library diagrams. Deceased are highlighted in Red.   Sat Sep 17, 2016 12:50 pm

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I think what's more interesting is when under a table there are either two or three people and only one would get shot fatally. Besides Isaiah and Matt most tables would only have one casualty of two or more. But I also ought to keep in mind that the boys thought they had killed more than those dead.
Honestly it a miracle more didn't die, both outside and in the library. I can't believe Patrick Ireland crawled for three hours to the window after three head shots, I'm in awe. Then there was Nicole Nowlen (9 shots) Lance Kirklin(point-blank shot to the face) Valleen Schnurr ( multiple wounds and dead friend beside her) mark Johnston (chest wound) and I forget his name but that kid who was shot in the leg and ran back to hide behind a storage shed.
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PostSubject: Re: 4 Library diagrams. Deceased are highlighted in Red.   Sat Sep 17, 2016 12:56 pm

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Honestly it a miracle more didn't die, both outside and in the library. I can't believe Patrick Ireland crawled for three hours to the window after three head shots, I'm in awe. Then there was Nicole Nowlen (9 shots) Lance Kirklin(point-blank shot to the face) Valleen Schnurr ( multiple wounds and dead friend beside her) mark Johnston (chest wound) and I forget his name but that kid who was shot in the leg and ran back to hide behind a storage shed.

That would be Dan Steepleton for the last one because of where he was shot but he didn't hide behind a storage shed...? I should look that one up.

And yes of course, the injured stories are fascinating, and I can only imagine everything they experienced that day.

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PostSubject: Re: 4 Library diagrams. Deceased are highlighted in Red.   Sat Sep 17, 2016 1:03 pm

Okay it was Michael Johnson who hid behind the shed.

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PostSubject: Re: 4 Library diagrams. Deceased are highlighted in Red.   Sat Sep 17, 2016 1:04 pm

I'm so glad many of those kids were smart enough to play dead and be there for one another. Whether it would have made a difference or not to Eric and Dylan but I'm glad there were not more casualties that day and a few were lucky to have survived what would be critical wounds.

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