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PostSubject: Re: Songs that remind you of Columbine.   Fri Jul 05, 2013 12:48 am

Golden Boy by Natalie Merchant reminds me of both Eric and Dylan. This line especially:

"Meteor rise from obscurity
All it took was a killing spree
And the whole world was lying at your feet
Golden boy"
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PostSubject: Re: Songs that remind you of Columbine.   Fri Jul 05, 2013 9:44 am

And another one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4z50p2v5Of0


Really, the lyrics could be from Erics diary:

Do you ever think about
what a lovely place the world would be
without all the people
that make life so unpleasant?

All the small, petty people
All the ugly, annoying people
It's hard not to think about it

I like to think about
what could be
done to these people
Something cruel
Something mean
Something just
But the meaner the better
Goodness knows they deserve it

Have you ever dreamed of
killing all the stupid people?
Not just the unintelligent people
but the sort that don't know anything about anything
but seem to have opinions about everything
They're only too ready to offer their advice about
how to run your life
And yet look at how they run their own lives
For the most part they've accomplished nothing
They've contributed nothing
Their lives are miserable
But they talk, talk, talk
At the very least their tongues should be cut out
At the very least

Do you ever wanna
kill all the people who tell lies?
Some certainly deserve it
Not necessarily the big liars
or even those who teach lies as truth
I'm talking about people
who say one thing and do another
or who tell you they sent something express mail
when you know they haven't

Did you ever want to
kill all the slow people in the world?
The people who are in front of you
when they should be behind you
A crime that the swift should be help back by the slow
And it's criminal that nothing is going to rectify it

And what about all the really ugly people?
Add them to the list as well
Some people try not to think about life's ugliness
I've thought about it
I've thought about it quite a lot
Something should be done to these people
Something to make them suffer
the way they've made us suffer

I say, bring back the circus maximus
for starters
Unless these weeds are dealt with
they'll poison everything
They are poisoning everything
We need a gardener
A brutal gardener
A thorough, thoughtful gardener
An iron gardener

Whatever happened to Vlad the Impaler?
Where's Genghis Kahn when you need him?
Or Roi d'Ys?
Ayatollah Khomeini
Adolf Hitler
Benito Mussolini
Nero
Diocletian
Kitchener
Come back!
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PostSubject: Re: Songs that remind you of Columbine.   Fri Jul 05, 2013 11:03 am

This song screams Eric!!

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PostSubject: Re: Songs that remind you of Columbine.   Sat Jul 06, 2013 10:05 am

Mad World-Gary Jules
Take the Skinheads Bowling-Camper Von Beethoven
The Nobodies-Manson



KMFDM-Everything
Brute-
Beast-
Search and Destroy-
Dogma-
Adios-
Save Me-
Stray Bullet-
Anarchy
Fuck Me
Ready to Blow


Rammstein
Anything off of Sentensutch
Adios
Sonne

Leonard Cohen
Waiting for on the miracle
The Future

Nine Inch Nails
Right Where it Belongs
Hurt
Something I can Never have
All the love in the world
The Great Below
A Warm Place
Wish

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PostSubject: Re: Songs that remind you of Columbine.   Sat Jul 06, 2013 10:06 am

Green Day
Having A Blast


I'm taking all you down with me
Explosives duct taped to my spine
Nothings gonna change my mind

I won't listen to anyone's last words
There's nothing left for you to say
Soon you'll be dead anyway

No one here is getting out alive
This time I've really lost my mind and I don't care
So close your eyes
And kiss yourself goodbye
And think about the times you spent and what they've meant
To me it's nothing...

I'm losing all my happiness
The happiness you pinned on me
Loneliness still comforts me

My anger dwells inside of me
I'm taking it all out on you
And the shit you put me through

No one here is getting out alive
This time I've really lost my mind and I don't care
So close your eyes
And kiss yourself goodbye
And think about the times you spent and what they've meant
To me its nothing...

Do you ever think back to another time?
Does it bring you so down that you thought you lost your mind?
Do you ever want to lead a long trail of destruction
and mow down any bullshit that confronts you?
Do you ever build up all the small things in your head?
To make one problem that adds up to nothing
To me it's nothing...

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PostSubject: Re: Songs that remind you of Columbine.   Sat Jul 06, 2013 10:19 am

Those Green Day lyrics are appropriate. Speaking of Rammstein, I think Eric would have loved the song Feuer Frei! if he'd still been alive. For those that don't know, the song name roughly translates as "Open Fire!".

Lyrics (English translation):

Whoever knows pain is dangerous
from the fire that burns the soul
bang bang

the burned child is dangerous
with fire that separates from the life
a hot cry
bang bang
OPEN FIRE!

Your happiness
is not my happiness
it is my misery

Bang bang
OPEN FIRE!

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PostSubject: Re: Songs that remind you of Columbine.   Sat Jul 06, 2013 10:26 am

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Those Green Day lyrics are appropriate. Speaking of Rammstein, I think Eric would have loved the song Feuer Frei! if he'd still been alive. For those that don't know, the song name roughly translates as "Open Fire!".

Lyrics (English translation):

Whoever knows pain is dangerous
from the fire that burns the soul
bang bang

the burned child is dangerous
with fire that separates from the life
a hot cry
bang bang
OPEN FIRE!

Your happiness


is not my happiness
it is my misery

Bang bang
OPEN FIRE!


I often wonder how both E&D would have felt about todays Rammstein, KMFDM, NIN and music and pop culture in general.  I have a decent idea Smile

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PostSubject: Re: Songs that remind you of Columbine.   Sat Jul 06, 2013 10:36 am

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I often wonder how both E&D would have felt about todays Rammstein, KMFDM, NIN and music and pop culture in general.  I have a decent idea Smile

Personally, I thought KMFDM's Xtort was their best album and they never came close to beating it. I think Eric would have been disappointed with Adios. Then again, who am I to say, I like Front Line Assembly much better than KMFDM. As for Rammstein, I really think it's a pity that E/D didn't get to hear the album Mutter. I think they would have liked that one.

Electronic music was cool in the 90s when computer technology was new. I think E/D would have outgrown a lot of the music they liked when computers stopped being so new and exciting.

What do you think? What bands would E/D be listening to now?
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PostSubject: Re: Songs that remind you of Columbine.   Wed Jul 10, 2013 9:06 am

Alice Cooper's song Wicked Young Man was written about Columbine, specifically about Eric.

I think out of all of the songs that have been written about Columbine, this is one of the few portrayals of Eric that Eric himself would have approved of.

Lyrics are:
I am a vicious young man.
Yeah, I am a wicked young man.
It's not the games that I play, the movies I see, the music I dig,
I'm just a wicked young man.

I like to run my body on heavy heavy fuel,
I can punch through a wall, I can kick like a mule.
I got a pocketful of bullets and a blueprint of the school,
I'm the devil's little soldier, I'm the devil's little tool.

I never ever sleep I just lay in my bed,
Dreaming of the day when everyone is dead.

EDIT: I just realized that someone already mentioned this song. Either way, I still think Eric would have approved of this portrayal of himself as born pure evil rather than a victim.
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PostSubject: Re: Songs that remind you of Columbine.   Wed Jul 10, 2013 12:16 pm

I have moments of having a terribly sick sense of humour, so the Prince song "1999" totally makes me think of Columbine. The lyrics actually fit too.

But when I woke up this mornin'
Could of sworn it was judgment day

The sky was all purple
There were people runnin' everywhere
Tryin' to run from the destruction
You know I didn't even care

But life is just a party
And parties weren't meant to last

War is all around us
My mind says prepare to fight
So if I gotta die
I'm gonna listen to my body tonight

Everybody's got a bomb
We could all die here today, uhh
We could all die here today (1999)

Just the lyrics there that I think fit. The song was written about the nuclear arms race if I'm not mistaken, but the whole "judgement day" bit is so very E&D - and written a good 17 years before Columbine happened.

ETA: StinkyOldGrapes - agree with you there, Eric would have loved that portrayal of himself. Or he would have hated it, because it's slightly tongue-in-cheek and he would have seen it as a slight against him. You never know with that kid Very Happy

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PostSubject: Re: Songs that remind you of Columbine.   Wed Jul 10, 2013 12:33 pm

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I often wonder how both E&D would have felt about todays Rammstein, KMFDM, NIN and music and pop culture in general.  I have a decent idea Smile
Personally, I thought KMFDM's Xtort was their best album and they never came close to beating it. I think Eric would have been disappointed with Adios. Then again, who am I to say, I like Front Line Assembly much better than KMFDM. As for Rammstein, I really think it's a pity that E/D didn't get to hear the album Mutter. I think they would have liked that one.

Electronic music was cool in the 90s when computer technology was new. I think E/D would have outgrown a lot of the music they liked when computers stopped being so new and exciting.

What do you think? What bands would E/D be listening to now?

Queens of the Stoneage? The Deftones? Maybe Dylan would have liked The Foofighters? But I don't think they would have outgrown their music. The bands they liked are still performing and still a lot of people buy their albums or pay good money to see them.

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PostSubject: Re: Songs that remind you of Columbine.   Wed Jul 10, 2013 2:05 pm

This Smashing Pumpkins' song always reminds me of Dylan's diary.

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I don't know why but this song always reminds me of their sense of betrayal by the school.

Show me how to lie, you’re getting better all the time
And turning all against the one is an art that’s hard to teach
Another clever word sets off an unsuspecting herd
And as you step back in the line a mob jumps to their feet

Now dance, fucker, dance, man, he never had a chance
And no one even knew, it was really only you


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PostSubject: Re: Songs that remind you of Columbine.   Thu Jul 11, 2013 2:44 am

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I have moments of having a terribly sick sense of humour, so the Prince song "1999" totally makes me think of Columbine. The lyrics actually fit too.

LOL. Eric's desire to bring forth the apocalypse fits well with the nuclear annihilation theme. When I first played Eric's Doom levels, I almost expected him to introduce a new weapon -the highly modified atom bomb. At the end of the level, your reward for killing all the demons is you get to blow yourself and the whole universe up.

On topic, I'm surprised no one's mentioned Metallica's Ronnie!

The streets are red, red I'm afraid,
There's no confetti, no parade.
Nothing happens in this boring place,
But oh my god, how that all did change.
Now they all pray:
Blood stains wash away.
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PostSubject: Re: Songs that remind you of Columbine.   Thu Jul 11, 2013 3:05 am

This one is a little special ...but amazing Smile 

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PostSubject: Re: Songs that remind you of Columbine.   Thu Jul 11, 2013 4:09 am

Something I can never have by NIN

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PostSubject: Re: Songs that remind you of Columbine.   Thu Jul 11, 2013 5:47 am

In bloom by Nirvana, in my twisted mind it's fitting for eric and KMFDM.
He's the one
Who likes all our pretty songs
and he likes to shoot his gun
but he don't know what it means

Eric obviously liked the KMFDM songs, and liked shooting his gun even more, but he didn't understand the lyrics. I mean, how can one misinterpret "shit for brains" in son of a gun.
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PostSubject: Re: Songs that remind you of Columbine.   Thu Jul 11, 2013 7:32 am

This is probably going to sound really random and strange, but some fragments (especially the last line) of 'Small Town Moon' by Regina Spektor really do remind me of both boys pre-massacre.

'Cause we're gonna get real old real soon
Today we're younger than we're ever gonna be

Stop! Stop, what's the hurry?
Come on baby, don't you worry worry
Everybody not so nice nice
Everybody not so nice nice

Thought you ought to know by now
I thought you ought to know by now
Everybody not so nice nice
Everybody not so nice nice

I must have left a thousand times
but there's a small town in my mind
How can I leave without hurting every one that made me?
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PostSubject: Re: Songs that remind you of Columbine.   Thu Jul 11, 2013 8:10 am

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In bloom by Nirvana, in my twisted mind it's fitting for eric and KMFDM.
He's the one
Who likes all our pretty songs
and he likes to shoot his gun
but he don't know what it means

Eric obviously liked the KMFDM songs, and liked shooting his gun even more, but he didn't understand the lyrics. I mean, how can one misinterpret "shit for brains" in son of a gun.

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PostSubject: Re: Songs that remind you of Columbine.   Thu Jul 11, 2013 9:30 am

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In bloom by Nirvana, in my twisted mind it's fitting for eric and KMFDM.
He's the one
Who likes all our pretty songs
and he likes to shoot his gun
but he don't know what it means

Eric obviously liked the KMFDM songs, and liked shooting his gun even more, but he didn't understand the lyrics. I mean, how can one misinterpret "shit for brains" in son of a gun.

People twist the meanings of songs to fit their own needs all the time. Eric probably imagined the "shit for brains" part applied to the people he was killing. I think Eric was aware that KMFDM wouldn't approve of his massacre plan and that their music wasn't advocating real life violence. Or he may have even imagined that KMFDM were a repressed version of himself -the band really did advocate violence, but were just pretending not to. Or he may have just not cared. Eric thought he was superior to everyone, so perhaps he thought it was acceptable to use KMFDM's music in any way he saw fit because that's how it should have been in the first place.
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PostSubject: Re: Songs that remind you of Columbine.   Fri Jul 12, 2013 9:33 pm

Simple Man by Lynyrd Skynyrd reminds me of Dylan.

"Boy, don't you worry.
You'll find yourself.
Follow you heart,
and nothing else.
You can do this,
if you try.
All that I want for you my son,
is to be satisfied." Like a Star @ heaven
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PostSubject: Re: Songs that remind you of Columbine.   Fri Jul 12, 2013 9:42 pm

Reminds me of E & D on their final day.....

Destroy Everything You Touch by Ladytron

Destroy everything you touch today
Destroy me this way
Anything that may desert you
So it cannot hurt you

You only have to look behind you
At who's undermined you
Destroy everything you touch today
Destroy me this way

Everything you touch you don't feel
Do not know what you steal
Shakes your hand
Takes your gun
Walks you out of the sun

What you touch you don't feel
Do not know what you steal
Destroy everything you touch today
Please destroy me this way

Destroy everything you touch today
Destroy me this way
Anything that may delay you
Might just save you

You only have to look behind you
At who's undermined you
Destroy everything you touch today
Destroy me this way
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PostSubject: Re: Songs that remind you of Columbine.   Sat Jul 13, 2013 12:34 am

Tool - "Ænema". From 1996. Very similar sentiments to those that were written in Eric's journal entries and on his AOL web pages.



Click this link and scroll down to number 13 (ænema) for the lyrics if you'd care to read them.
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PostSubject: Re: Songs that remind you of Columbine.   Sat Jul 13, 2013 10:44 am

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Tool - "Ænema". From 1996. Very similar sentiments to those that were written in Eric's journal entries and on his AOL web pages.

Tool epitomized the anti-organized-religion vitriol that a lot of young people had in the mid to late 90s. A big deal is made of Eric's "contempt" for society in his You Know What I Hate rants, and how this is a psychopathic trait, but Maynard has just as much contempt for society as Eric did.

Here's a question: Would Eric still meet the psychopath diagnosis if didn't do the massacre? Because Eric's rants sound pretty much like the rantings of every musician that teenagers listen to.
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PostSubject: Re: Songs that remind you of Columbine.   Sat Jul 13, 2013 4:56 pm

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Tool - "Ænema". From 1996. Very similar sentiments to those that were written in Eric's journal entries and on his AOL web pages.

Tool epitomized the anti-organized-religion vitriol that a lot of young people had in the mid to late 90s. A big deal is made of Eric's "contempt" for society in his You Know What I Hate rants, and how this is a psychopathic trait, but Maynard has just as much contempt for society as Eric did.

Here's a question: Would Eric still meet the psychopath diagnosis if didn't do the massacre? Because Eric's rants sound pretty much like the rantings of every musician that teenagers listen to.


I very much doubt that the people who have come to that conclusion because of his writings would have, had he not committed the massacre. Very good point.

Actually, a number of Tool songs remind me of this situation, and Dylan and Eric.

Tool are one of the most moving, deeply spiritual bands I've ever experienced (that were somewhat commercially embraced). I was a bit sick of them during their heyday; they were played to death. But I always liked them and then later grew to adore them.

I think Keenan is incredibly similar to Eric in a plethora of ways, (and this actually includes, but is not limited to, some of their more extensive astrological makeup [beyond just their sun signs]).

Going a bit off topic, but still somewhat related: in the thread from the old board that I posted here awhile back, their former co-worker/manager stated that they sometimes listened to Tool at work (along with some of their other favorites). I wasn't surprised to hear that at all. In fact, I was shocked I hadn't heard it sooner. The more I delved into this subject throughout the years, I'd wondered why they hadn't been connected to or hadn't referenced that band. I mean, everyone doesn't have to like them, but a lot of what was conveyed in Tool's work was quite similar to how those two felt about so many things.
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PostSubject: Re: Songs that remind you of Columbine.   Sun Jul 14, 2013 12:58 am

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I often wonder how both E&D would have felt about todays Rammstein, KMFDM, NIN and music and pop culture in general.  I have a decent idea Smile

Personally, I thought KMFDM's Xtort was their best album and they never came close to beating it. I think Eric would have been disappointed with Adios. Then again, who am I to say, I like Front Line Assembly much better than KMFDM. As for Rammstein, I really think it's a pity that E/D didn't get to hear the album Mutter. I think they would have liked that one.

Electronic music was cool in the 90s when computer technology was new. I think E/D would have outgrown a lot of the music they liked when computers stopped being so new and exciting.

What do you think? What bands would E/D be listening to now?


Nihil was my favorite personally.  Very late 80's industrial with some heavy riffs.  Had a Pretty Hate Machine by NIN sound to it. Search and Destroy also happened to be the first KMFDM song i'd ever heard. Hau Ruck was bad-ass too.

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PostSubject: Re: Songs that remind you of Columbine.   Sun Jul 14, 2013 4:51 am

Dr. Dre ft. Snoop Doggy Dogg - Nuthin' But A G Thang

I feel like reading through Dylans planner, he really wanted to be a G. I think he liked to listen to rap as his guilty pleasure.  <3

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PostSubject: Re: Songs that remind you of Columbine.   Tue Jul 16, 2013 5:35 pm

I'm going to ask an off-the-cuff question here.  Yesterday, while working out, "Godlike" came up in the queue.  Does anyone know what that toddler is saying in the song?  Sounds to me like a baby dubbed into the song. I've always kinda wondered what the kid is saying.  ;)   How's that for a KMFDM trivia question for you guys?  Razz
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PostSubject: Re: Songs that remind you of Columbine.   Thu Aug 01, 2013 12:18 am

That song 'Raised by wolves' by 'Falling in Reverse' reminds me of Eric. Perhaps because I saw a video once where they used that particular song? But, every time I hear it, I think of Eric.Crying or Very sad 

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PostSubject: Re: Songs that remind you of Columbine.   Thu Aug 01, 2013 5:39 am

Huh, Queen's Bohemian Rhapsody came on the radio just now and some parts of the lyrics suddenly reminded me of, well, Columbine.. Smile (I've heard this song a million times before and it never clicked like that. I think this is a sign that I need to take a break. Laughing )

Mama, just killed a man
Put a gun against his head
Pulled my trigger, now he's dead
Mama, life had just begun
But now I've gone and thrown it all away
(..)
If I'm not back again this time tomorrow
Carry on, carry on, as if nothing really matters
(..)
I don't want to die
I sometimes wish I'd never been born at all
(..)
So you think you can stone me and spit in my eye
So you think you can love me and leave me to die

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PostSubject: Re: Songs that remind you of Columbine.   Fri Aug 02, 2013 1:21 pm

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Hey man, you know I'm really OK
The gun in my hand will tell you the same
But when I'm in my car, don't give me no crap,
'Cause the slightest thing and I just might snap!

When I go driving I stay in my lane
But getting cut off; it makes me insane

Open the glove box,
Reach inside,
Gonna wreck this fucker's ride,
'Cause I got a bad habit
Of blowin' away, Yeah, Yeah
I got a bad habit, Yeah, Yeah


They say the road's a dangerous place
If you flip me off I'll get in your face
You drive on my ass,
Your foot's on the gas,
And your next breath is your last

'Cause I got a bad habit
Of blowin' away, Yeah, Yeah
I got a bad habit, Yeah, Yeah

Drivers are rude,
Such attitudes,
But when I show my PIECE,
Complaints cease, Something's odd,
I feel like I'm God,
You stupid dumb-shit god-damn motherfucker!
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