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Do you ever think about what a lovely place the world would be without all the people that make life so unpleasant?
All the small, petty people All the ugly, annoying people It's hard not to think about it
I like to think about what could be done to these people Something cruel Something mean Something just But the meaner the better Goodness knows they deserve it
Have you ever dreamed of killing all the stupid people? Not just the unintelligent people but the sort that don't know anything about anything but seem to have opinions about everything They're only too ready to offer their advice about how to run your life And yet look at how they run their own lives For the most part they've accomplished nothing They've contributed nothing Their lives are miserable But they talk, talk, talk At the very least their tongues should be cut out At the very least
Do you ever wanna kill all the people who tell lies? Some certainly deserve it Not necessarily the big liars or even those who teach lies as truth I'm talking about people who say one thing and do another or who tell you they sent something express mail when you know they haven't
Did you ever want to kill all the slow people in the world? The people who are in front of you when they should be behind you A crime that the swift should be help back by the slow And it's criminal that nothing is going to rectify it
And what about all the really ugly people? Add them to the list as well Some people try not to think about life's ugliness I've thought about it I've thought about it quite a lot Something should be done to these people Something to make them suffer the way they've made us suffer
I say, bring back the circus maximus for starters Unless these weeds are dealt with they'll poison everything They are poisoning everything We need a gardener A brutal gardener A thorough, thoughtful gardener An iron gardener
Whatever happened to Vlad the Impaler? Where's Genghis Kahn when you need him? Or Roi d'Ys? Ayatollah Khomeini Adolf Hitler Benito Mussolini Nero Diocletian Kitchener Come back!
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Subject: Re: Songs that remind you of Columbine. Fri Jul 05, 2013 7:03 pm
This song screams Eric!!
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Subject: Re: Songs that remind you of Columbine. Sat Jul 06, 2013 6:05 pm
Mad World-Gary Jules Take the Skinheads Bowling-Camper Von Beethoven The Nobodies-Manson
KMFDM-Everything Brute- Beast- Search and Destroy- Dogma- Adios- Save Me- Stray Bullet- Anarchy Fuck Me Ready to Blow
Rammstein Anything off of Sentensutch Adios Sonne
Leonard Cohen Waiting for on the miracle The Future
Nine Inch Nails Right Where it Belongs Hurt Something I can Never have All the love in the world The Great Below A Warm Place Wish
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Subject: Re: Songs that remind you of Columbine. Sat Jul 06, 2013 6:06 pm
Green Day Having A Blast
I'm taking all you down with me Explosives duct taped to my spine Nothings gonna change my mind
I won't listen to anyone's last words There's nothing left for you to say Soon you'll be dead anyway
No one here is getting out alive This time I've really lost my mind and I don't care So close your eyes And kiss yourself goodbye And think about the times you spent and what they've meant To me it's nothing...
I'm losing all my happiness The happiness you pinned on me Loneliness still comforts me
My anger dwells inside of me I'm taking it all out on you And the shit you put me through
No one here is getting out alive This time I've really lost my mind and I don't care So close your eyes And kiss yourself goodbye And think about the times you spent and what they've meant To me its nothing...
Do you ever think back to another time? Does it bring you so down that you thought you lost your mind? Do you ever want to lead a long trail of destruction and mow down any bullshit that confronts you? Do you ever build up all the small things in your head? To make one problem that adds up to nothing To me it's nothing...
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Subject: Re: Songs that remind you of Columbine. Sat Jul 06, 2013 6:19 pm
Those Green Day lyrics are appropriate. Speaking of Rammstein, I think Eric would have loved the song Feuer Frei! if he'd still been alive. For those that don't know, the song name roughly translates as "Open Fire!".
Lyrics (English translation):
Whoever knows pain is dangerous from the fire that burns the soul bang bang
the burned child is dangerous with fire that separates from the life a hot cry bang bang OPEN FIRE!
Your happiness is not my happiness it is my misery
Bang bang OPEN FIRE!
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Subject: Re: Songs that remind you of Columbine. Sat Jul 06, 2013 6:26 pm
StinkyOldGrapes wrote:
Those Green Day lyrics are appropriate. Speaking of Rammstein, I think Eric would have loved the song Feuer Frei! if he'd still been alive. For those that don't know, the song name roughly translates as "Open Fire!".
Lyrics (English translation):
Whoever knows pain is dangerous from the fire that burns the soul bang bang
the burned child is dangerous with fire that separates from the life a hot cry bang bang OPEN FIRE!
Your happiness
is not my happiness it is my misery
Bang bang OPEN FIRE!
I often wonder how both E&D would have felt about todays Rammstein, KMFDM, NIN and music and pop culture in general. I have a decent idea
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Subject: Re: Songs that remind you of Columbine. Sat Jul 06, 2013 6:36 pm
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I often wonder how both E&D would have felt about todays Rammstein, KMFDM, NIN and music and pop culture in general. I have a decent idea
Personally, I thought KMFDM's Xtort was their best album and they never came close to beating it. I think Eric would have been disappointed with Adios. Then again, who am I to say, I like Front Line Assembly much better than KMFDM. As for Rammstein, I really think it's a pity that E/D didn't get to hear the album Mutter. I think they would have liked that one.
Electronic music was cool in the 90s when computer technology was new. I think E/D would have outgrown a lot of the music they liked when computers stopped being so new and exciting.
What do you think? What bands would E/D be listening to now?
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Subject: Re: Songs that remind you of Columbine. Wed Jul 10, 2013 5:06 pm
Alice Cooper's song Wicked Young Man was written about Columbine, specifically about Eric.
I think out of all of the songs that have been written about Columbine, this is one of the few portrayals of Eric that Eric himself would have approved of.
Lyrics are: I am a vicious young man. Yeah, I am a wicked young man. It's not the games that I play, the movies I see, the music I dig, I'm just a wicked young man.
I like to run my body on heavy heavy fuel, I can punch through a wall, I can kick like a mule. I got a pocketful of bullets and a blueprint of the school, I'm the devil's little soldier, I'm the devil's little tool.
I never ever sleep I just lay in my bed, Dreaming of the day when everyone is dead.
EDIT: I just realized that someone already mentioned this song. Either way, I still think Eric would have approved of this portrayal of himself as born pure evil rather than a victim.
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Subject: Re: Songs that remind you of Columbine. Wed Jul 10, 2013 8:16 pm
I have moments of having a terribly sick sense of humour, so the Prince song "1999" totally makes me think of Columbine. The lyrics actually fit too.
But when I woke up this mornin' Could of sworn it was judgment day
The sky was all purple There were people runnin' everywhere Tryin' to run from the destruction You know I didn't even care
But life is just a party And parties weren't meant to last
War is all around us My mind says prepare to fight So if I gotta die I'm gonna listen to my body tonight
Everybody's got a bomb We could all die here today, uhh We could all die here today (1999)
Just the lyrics there that I think fit. The song was written about the nuclear arms race if I'm not mistaken, but the whole "judgement day" bit is so very E&D - and written a good 17 years before Columbine happened.
ETA: StinkyOldGrapes - agree with you there, Eric would have loved that portrayal of himself. Or he would have hated it, because it's slightly tongue-in-cheek and he would have seen it as a slight against him. You never know with that kid
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Subject: Re: Songs that remind you of Columbine. Wed Jul 10, 2013 8:33 pm
StinkyOldGrapes wrote:
xmichaelmyersii wrote:
I often wonder how both E&D would have felt about todays Rammstein, KMFDM, NIN and music and pop culture in general. I have a decent idea
Personally, I thought KMFDM's Xtort was their best album and they never came close to beating it. I think Eric would have been disappointed with Adios. Then again, who am I to say, I like Front Line Assembly much better than KMFDM. As for Rammstein, I really think it's a pity that E/D didn't get to hear the album Mutter. I think they would have liked that one.
Electronic music was cool in the 90s when computer technology was new. I think E/D would have outgrown a lot of the music they liked when computers stopped being so new and exciting.
What do you think? What bands would E/D be listening to now?
Queens of the Stoneage? The Deftones? Maybe Dylan would have liked The Foofighters? But I don't think they would have outgrown their music. The bands they liked are still performing and still a lot of people buy their albums or pay good money to see them.
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Subject: Re: Songs that remind you of Columbine. Wed Jul 10, 2013 10:05 pm
This Smashing Pumpkins' song always reminds me of Dylan's diary.
I don't know why but this song always reminds me of their sense of betrayal by the school.
Show me how to lie, you’re getting better all the time And turning all against the one is an art that’s hard to teach Another clever word sets off an unsuspecting herd And as you step back in the line a mob jumps to their feet
Now dance, fucker, dance, man, he never had a chance And no one even knew, it was really only you
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Subject: Re: Songs that remind you of Columbine. Thu Jul 11, 2013 10:44 am
Kinney wrote:
I have moments of having a terribly sick sense of humour, so the Prince song "1999" totally makes me think of Columbine. The lyrics actually fit too.
LOL. Eric's desire to bring forth the apocalypse fits well with the nuclear annihilation theme. When I first played Eric's Doom levels, I almost expected him to introduce a new weapon -the highly modified atom bomb. At the end of the level, your reward for killing all the demons is you get to blow yourself and the whole universe up.
On topic, I'm surprised no one's mentioned Metallica's Ronnie!
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Subject: Re: Songs that remind you of Columbine. Thu Jul 11, 2013 11:05 am
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Subject: Re: Songs that remind you of Columbine. Thu Jul 11, 2013 12:09 pm
Something I can never have by NIN
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Subject: Re: Songs that remind you of Columbine. Thu Jul 11, 2013 1:47 pm
In bloom by Nirvana, in my twisted mind it's fitting for eric and KMFDM. He's the one Who likes all our pretty songs and he likes to shoot his gun but he don't know what it means Eric obviously liked the KMFDM songs, and liked shooting his gun even more, but he didn't understand the lyrics. I mean, how can one misinterpret "shit for brains" in son of a gun.
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Subject: Re: Songs that remind you of Columbine. Thu Jul 11, 2013 3:32 pm
This is probably going to sound really random and strange, but some fragments (especially the last line) of 'Small Town Moon' by Regina Spektor really do remind me of both boys pre-massacre.
'Cause we're gonna get real old real soon Today we're younger than we're ever gonna be
Stop! Stop, what's the hurry? Come on baby, don't you worry worry Everybody not so nice nice Everybody not so nice nice
Thought you ought to know by now I thought you ought to know by now Everybody not so nice nice Everybody not so nice nice
I must have left a thousand times but there's a small town in my mind How can I leave without hurting every one that made me?
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Subject: Re: Songs that remind you of Columbine. Thu Jul 11, 2013 4:10 pm
Jaan wrote:
In bloom by Nirvana, in my twisted mind it's fitting for eric and KMFDM. He's the one Who likes all our pretty songs and he likes to shoot his gun but he don't know what it means Eric obviously liked the KMFDM songs, and liked shooting his gun even more, but he didn't understand the lyrics. I mean, how can one misinterpret "shit for brains" in son of a gun.
Excellent point!
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Subject: Re: Songs that remind you of Columbine. Thu Jul 11, 2013 5:30 pm
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In bloom by Nirvana, in my twisted mind it's fitting for eric and KMFDM. He's the one Who likes all our pretty songs and he likes to shoot his gun but he don't know what it means Eric obviously liked the KMFDM songs, and liked shooting his gun even more, but he didn't understand the lyrics. I mean, how can one misinterpret "shit for brains" in son of a gun.
People twist the meanings of songs to fit their own needs all the time. Eric probably imagined the "shit for brains" part applied to the people he was killing. I think Eric was aware that KMFDM wouldn't approve of his massacre plan and that their music wasn't advocating real life violence. Or he may have even imagined that KMFDM were a repressed version of himself -the band really did advocate violence, but were just pretending not to. Or he may have just not cared. Eric thought he was superior to everyone, so perhaps he thought it was acceptable to use KMFDM's music in any way he saw fit because that's how it should have been in the first place.
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Subject: Re: Songs that remind you of Columbine. Sat Jul 13, 2013 5:33 am
Simple Man by Lynyrd Skynyrd reminds me of Dylan.
"Boy, don't you worry. You'll find yourself. Follow you heart, and nothing else. You can do this, if you try. All that I want for you my son, is to be satisfied."
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Subject: Re: Songs that remind you of Columbine. Sat Jul 13, 2013 5:42 am
Reminds me of E & D on their final day.....
Destroy Everything You Touch by Ladytron
Destroy everything you touch today Destroy me this way Anything that may desert you So it cannot hurt you
You only have to look behind you At who's undermined you Destroy everything you touch today Destroy me this way
Everything you touch you don't feel Do not know what you steal Shakes your hand Takes your gun Walks you out of the sun
What you touch you don't feel Do not know what you steal Destroy everything you touch today Please destroy me this way
Destroy everything you touch today Destroy me this way Anything that may delay you Might just save you
You only have to look behind you At who's undermined you Destroy everything you touch today Destroy me this way
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Subject: Re: Songs that remind you of Columbine. Sat Jul 13, 2013 8:34 am
Tool - "Ænema". From 1996. Very similar sentiments to those that were written in Eric's journal entries and on his AOL web pages.
Click this link and scroll down to number 13 (ænema) for the lyrics if you'd care to read them.
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Subject: Re: Songs that remind you of Columbine. Sat Jul 13, 2013 6:44 pm
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Tool - "Ænema". From 1996. Very similar sentiments to those that were written in Eric's journal entries and on his AOL web pages.
Tool epitomized the anti-organized-religion vitriol that a lot of young people had in the mid to late 90s. A big deal is made of Eric's "contempt" for society in his You Know What I Hate rants, and how this is a psychopathic trait, but Maynard has just as much contempt for society as Eric did.
Here's a question: Would Eric still meet the psychopath diagnosis if didn't do the massacre? Because Eric's rants sound pretty much like the rantings of every musician that teenagers listen to.
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Subject: Re: Songs that remind you of Columbine. Sun Jul 14, 2013 12:56 am
StinkyOldGrapes wrote:
tfsa47090 wrote:
Tool - "Ænema". From 1996. Very similar sentiments to those that were written in Eric's journal entries and on his AOL web pages.
Tool epitomized the anti-organized-religion vitriol that a lot of young people had in the mid to late 90s. A big deal is made of Eric's "contempt" for society in his You Know What I Hate rants, and how this is a psychopathic trait, but Maynard has just as much contempt for society as Eric did.
Here's a question: Would Eric still meet the psychopath diagnosis if didn't do the massacre? Because Eric's rants sound pretty much like the rantings of every musician that teenagers listen to.
I very much doubt that the people who have come to that conclusion because of his writings would have, had he not committed the massacre. Very good point.
Actually, a number of Tool songs remind me of this situation, and Dylan and Eric.
Tool are one of the most moving, deeply spiritual bands I've ever experienced (that were somewhat commercially embraced). I was a bit sick of them during their heyday; they were played to death. But I always liked them and then later grew to adore them.
I think Keenan is incredibly similar to Eric in a plethora of ways, (and this actually includes, but is not limited to, some of their more extensive astrological makeup [beyond just their sun signs]).
Going a bit off topic, but still somewhat related: in the thread from the old board that I posted here awhile back, their former co-worker/manager stated that they sometimes listened to Tool at work (along with some of their other favorites). I wasn't surprised to hear that at all. In fact, I was shocked I hadn't heard it sooner. The more I delved into this subject throughout the years, I'd wondered why they hadn't been connected to or hadn't referenced that band. I mean, everyone doesn't have to like them, but a lot of what was conveyed in Tool's work was quite similar to how those two felt about so many things.
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Subject: Re: Songs that remind you of Columbine. Sun Jul 14, 2013 8:58 am
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xmichaelmyersii wrote:
I often wonder how both E&D would have felt about todays Rammstein, KMFDM, NIN and music and pop culture in general. I have a decent idea
Personally, I thought KMFDM's Xtort was their best album and they never came close to beating it. I think Eric would have been disappointed with Adios. Then again, who am I to say, I like Front Line Assembly much better than KMFDM. As for Rammstein, I really think it's a pity that E/D didn't get to hear the album Mutter. I think they would have liked that one.
Electronic music was cool in the 90s when computer technology was new. I think E/D would have outgrown a lot of the music they liked when computers stopped being so new and exciting.
What do you think? What bands would E/D be listening to now?
Nihil was my favorite personally. Very late 80's industrial with some heavy riffs. Had a Pretty Hate Machine by NIN sound to it. Search and Destroy also happened to be the first KMFDM song i'd ever heard. Hau Ruck was bad-ass too.
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Subject: Re: Songs that remind you of Columbine. Sun Jul 14, 2013 12:51 pm
Dr. Dre ft. Snoop Doggy Dogg - Nuthin' But A G Thang
I feel like reading through Dylans planner, he really wanted to be a G. I think he liked to listen to rap as his guilty pleasure. <3
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Subject: Re: Songs that remind you of Columbine. Wed Jul 17, 2013 1:35 am
I'm going to ask an off-the-cuff question here. Yesterday, while working out, "Godlike" came up in the queue. Does anyone know what that toddler is saying in the song? Sounds to me like a baby dubbed into the song. I've always kinda wondered what the kid is saying. ;) How's that for a KMFDM trivia question for you guys?
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Subject: Re: Songs that remind you of Columbine. Thu Aug 01, 2013 8:18 am
That song 'Raised by wolves' by 'Falling in Reverse' reminds me of Eric. Perhaps because I saw a video once where they used that particular song? But, every time I hear it, I think of Eric.
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Subject: Re: Songs that remind you of Columbine. Thu Aug 01, 2013 1:39 pm
Huh, Queen's Bohemian Rhapsody came on the radio just now and some parts of the lyrics suddenly reminded me of, well, Columbine.. (I've heard this song a million times before and it never clicked like that. I think this is a sign that I need to take a break. )
Mama, just killed a man Put a gun against his head Pulled my trigger, now he's dead Mama, life had just begun But now I've gone and thrown it all away (..) If I'm not back again this time tomorrow Carry on, carry on, as if nothing really matters (..) I don't want to die I sometimes wish I'd never been born at all (..) So you think you can stone me and spit in my eye So you think you can love me and leave me to die
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Subject: Re: Songs that remind you of Columbine. Fri Aug 02, 2013 9:21 pm
Hey man, you know I'm really OK The gun in my hand will tell you the same But when I'm in my car, don't give me no crap, 'Cause the slightest thing and I just might snap!
When I go driving I stay in my lane But getting cut off; it makes me insane
Open the glove box, Reach inside, Gonna wreck this fucker's ride, 'Cause I got a bad habit Of blowin' away, Yeah, Yeah I got a bad habit, Yeah, Yeah
They say the road's a dangerous place If you flip me off I'll get in your face You drive on my ass, Your foot's on the gas, And your next breath is your last
'Cause I got a bad habit Of blowin' away, Yeah, Yeah I got a bad habit, Yeah, Yeah
Drivers are rude, Such attitudes, But when I show my PIECE, Complaints cease, Something's odd, I feel like I'm God, You stupid dumb-shit god-damn motherfucker!
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Subject: Re: Songs that remind you of Columbine. Fri Aug 23, 2013 4:57 am
Does anybody think Columbine is like a really catchy song that wont get out of your head no matter how hard you try?!
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Subject: Re: Songs that remind you of Columbine. Fri Aug 30, 2013 1:51 am
Slipknot - People = Shit
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Subject: Re: Songs that remind you of Columbine. Thu Sep 05, 2013 12:17 am
Shinedown - 45
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Subject: Re: Songs that remind you of Columbine. Thu Sep 05, 2013 6:32 am
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Shinedown - 45
I came in here just to post this!
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Subject: Re: Songs that remind you of Columbine. Thu Sep 05, 2013 4:14 pm
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deadpoet wrote:
Shinedown - 45
I came in here just to post this!
Hah
I'd also add The Killers - All these things that I've done
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Subject: Re: Songs that remind you of Columbine. Thu Sep 05, 2013 6:00 pm
Everytime I hear Avicii- Wake Me Up, it reminds me of Dylan. I have no real idea why...
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Subject: Re: Songs that remind you of Columbine. Fri Sep 06, 2013 4:10 am
The lyrics definitely remind me of Eric - Slipknot - People = Shit [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] and maybe a little bit also, Surfacing [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]
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Subject: Re: Songs that remind you of Columbine. Fri Sep 20, 2013 2:33 pm
A lot of songs by KMFDM, Rammstein and NIN remind me of Eric and Dylan, but a lot of material by Combichrist does also. I think if Combichrist had been around back then, both boys (but especially Eric) would have adored them.
Combichrist -- This Is My Rifle
'Tonight you pukes will sleep with your rifle You will give your rifle a girls name Because this is the only p***y you people are going to get
This is my rifle, it is my life We are masters of our enemy Till there is no enemy'
'I'm cleaning out today Now you can buy my soul Everything must go I'm closing down my life I'm making room for a brand new show It will consist of empty dreams High fashion wars and dollar smiles It will be filled with disco bombs All I want is for you to be in the show It's a matter of what I'll achieve I'm all f****d up now I want you to care Want it right now, I want you to care'
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Subject: Re: Songs that remind you of Columbine. Fri Sep 20, 2013 2:50 pm
Agreed Cherry. Add "Feed your anger" and "Throat full of glass" to that list as well.
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Subject: Re: Songs that remind you of Columbine. Fri Sep 20, 2013 3:13 pm
Yes, absolutely! I almost put the lyrics to Feed Your Anger instead of In The Pit, but the beginning to In The Pit is so thudding and menacing it makes me think of the two of them walking towards the school with their weapons loaded.
Also adding the album 'The Joy Of Gunz' by Combichrist, for obvious reasons.
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Subject: Re: Songs that remind you of Columbine. Fri Sep 20, 2013 7:46 pm
This one... So much so I made the video using the documentary footage.
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Subject: Re: Songs that remind you of Columbine. Sat Sep 21, 2013 12:52 am
I've also always thought "Paradise Now" by Die Krupps to be one that reminds me about Columbine, in particular the gunmen.
LYRICS: look at the past what do you see look at the present what do you see look to the future what do you see you clearly see what will be
growing content in these hearts and minds an feeling of anger that makes them blind rising to the surface the will to destroy shaking the system like an defective toy
paradise now (x2) all we need is paradise now make the fear that will break
shout out (x3) to hell with agony shout out (x3) to hell with misery shout out (x3) to hell with agony shout out (x3) to hell with misery
look deep inside you what do you feel test your senses to see what is real look in the mirror who do you see what you desire make reality
when enemies connect like separated brothers when hell becomes heaven and haters lovers then we will build the ideal place and then lend us richer peace and grace
paradise now all we need is paradise now meet your worst yet build it now
shout out to hell with agony shout out to hell with misery shout out.
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Subject: Re: Songs that remind you of Columbine. Sat Sep 21, 2013 2:36 am
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A lot of songs by KMFDM, Rammstein and NIN remind me of Eric and Dylan, but a lot of material by Combichrist does also. I think if Combichrist had been around back then, both boys (but especially Eric) would have adored them.
Combichrist -- This Is My Rifle
'Tonight you pukes will sleep with your rifle You will give your rifle a girls name Because this is the only p***y you people are going to get
This is my rifle, it is my life We are masters of our enemy Till there is no enemy'
'I'm cleaning out today Now you can buy my soul Everything must go I'm closing down my life I'm making room for a brand new show It will consist of empty dreams High fashion wars and dollar smiles It will be filled with disco bombs All I want is for you to be in the show It's a matter of what I'll achieve I'm all f****d up now I want you to care Want it right now, I want you to care'